Is This the Strongest Dana 30 EVER?!? Overlander Front Axle Swap Part 5
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- We've finished the Overlander's front axle! It's been a winding road, but we're finally home. In this video I'll detail the few odds and ends that went in to completing this epic Dana 30 build and we'll review everything we've done so far to improve this little axle's reliability and strength.
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I like the idea of beefing up the dana 30 because it still keeps the jeep light. One of the reasons why jeeps wheel so well.
Truss kit puts it in Dana 44 weight class
True but you don't have to do as much fabing beefing up a 30 vs prepping a 44 from a one tone. Plus its smaller and has a tid bit more ground clearance than the 44.
People underestimate how well a 30 can hold up...its a matter of horsepower vs. tire size. As far as the locker, I'm someone who would rather have something and not need it than need something and not have it. I'm a fan of IRO so I like the truss.
I work at an off road park in s Michigan. I have seen my fare share of breaks ( daily ) and in most cases, its NOT the dana 30 thats on 90% of the jeeps i see come into the park. The most common break i see on stock or semi stock rigs, is the steering arm gets bent, or breaks , and tie rods. Now having said that, while we do have rock areas, rocks are not in most of the park. Bottom line.....build it for what you do, a 60k drive train dosnt impress me, and screw the trolls. I watch guys with 1 ton military axles break stuff all the time, usually because of the 52 inch tires, but you can break ANY axle, and no where does it say if you dont run the most expensive equipment, your not cool and will never break. My jeep goes any where....it makes me smile, and if you dont like it, drive your own, because i really dont care, and at the end of the day.....my jeep will be pulling you to the parking lot
I agree. Axle longevity has way more to do with driving style than it does with axle size. Anything can be broken given enough throttle, vehicle weight, and/or tire size.
After watching this video and Reading mats reply that makes me really lean toward and HP D30 just to keep cost down and installation easier. My only concern is I have a new set of 37's waiting in the garage but no axles up to the job. I know a foolish man builds his house on sand so it's always got me thinking. I work at a local salvage yard and have quite the pick. I've see set after set of 1 tons everyday but even at my cost it would push my build back another year. But... I can have any 8.8 and HP D30 I choose for almost nothing. This video really makes me think, I never beat on my truck, more of an overland / creepy crawler Trail Wanderer kinda style. Just do some 4.56s, truss the piss out of it, sleeves, some good ball joints and call it a day. Plus what he says about making the axle shaft the fuse I agree with, or even better try to find some Wagoneer style hubs and make that the fuse, don't even have to take the wheel off to replace one.
Seth Kisselman you read my mind. Just picked up another set for wheeling trips
Do you work at Bundy hill dude? I’m not far from there 🤘
I've run 44" tires on dana 35 for over 10 years..ive broken u joints and lug nuts..and ball joints..all old equipment never shafts never blew gears. If you don't maintain your shit it breaks..i do mud and rocks.. My stuff is on RUclips and nothing breaks..because when I'm stuck I'm stuck..no amount of. Revving will get you out..my favorite. Vehicle is a 4cyl jeep yj 4" springs, soa, 2in shackles 3" body lift..44" bloggers or cut ground hawgs..456 or 513 gears front dana 30 with long axle swap from tj.. Rear axle welded or locked..up to you..build this exact vehicle and you will laugh as hard as I do when I'm wheeling..
Looks good. I say build what you want the way you want it, it's your time and money.
Nice to hear someone else basically say what I tell people about my overlander and that is “that’s the beautiful thing about America; you don’t have to understand, agree, or like anything I do... only I do”
Nice build. Appreciate the comment about running stock axle shafts to avoid damaging the ring and pinion.
I'm running 35's ten factory axles, lock right locker for about 2 yrs now ,no problems,a lot of it is how a person wheels, that Dana 30 is awesome good work 👍
Kiniferus Eby you running straight up stock Dana 30 and 35 on 35”s ????? Please explain, planning on going to 35”s from 33”s and I have Dana 30 front and 35 rear
Actually its moreover "what a person wheels"
36s ten factory shafts grizzly lockers probably drive harder than anyone ever and i have broke 2 shafts this year but i beat it hard 2 years before i broke one even busted the stock carrier with the assuie locker
I love your reasoning and answer to why you justified using the d30! mine has held up perfectly with 35s and a locker for the last 6-7 years. A good strong steering setup and normal maintenance will go a long way as long as you don't completely abuse it.
Your not the only one with a built dana 30 we are running a Dana 30 trussed and sleeved with 4:88 Yukon gears ARB lockers Yukon chromemoly axle shafts in our 2014 JKU with 37in tires and so far so good and we beat on our jeep pretty hard. I think the dana 30 is a great axle.
Looking great! I am currently building myself an Iron Rock Off-road sponsored ZJ for Overland! Truly a great company! I run their premium 3.5" lift with their rear sway bar. Going to address the Axles next so this series is perfect right now! 👊🏾🦁
IRO freakin rocks!
BRAVO!!! Finally someone who understands me. The setup you've described is basically what I do; although, my front Dana 30 was destroyed by a tow truck towing the vehicle backwards. I ordered a new Dana 30 with Truss, from East Coast Axle. No locker. Limited Slip Dana 44 in the back. I've been looking for a Dana 44 Clutch replacement video; because, it's the biggest task I want to tackle, in the next month, in time for some winter desert driving. Plus, my 5.9 ZJ came with Quadratrac; where, the ABS/ESC uses the brakes to prevent too much wheel slippage. I decided I want to keep the ABS; because, it is remaining a street vehicle; plus, with my last ZJ, my ABS saved a kids life when I was able to steer it to center up with his front tire. Both SUVs totaled; but, with minor injuries. Without ABS, it would have been really really bad.
Thank God I see someone using a Torque Wrench on a YT vid. Nice job guys. Like some other posters have mentioned, the Dana 30 is underrated if given a little TLC. Having said as much, I live in Colorado with some of the most technical trails in the world. Having a select-able locker in the front while driving up a wet rock canyon is key. BUT, applying full power at full steering lock will break almost any front axle or front u joint. At least anything that most people can afford and drive to work every day.
I've seen this video pop up often and I figured i'd finally drop my Two Cents in …. its basically because how you say you get Slagged for building up a Dana 30. Every time anyone does any kind of mod to their Jeep, people are always "Rock Crawl this, Rock Crawl that … Blah, Blah, Blah." Not all of us Rock Crawl. We aren't all Rock Crawl specific. Some of us are just explorers (Overlanders is the new trendy term, I think) and just want to get into the back country. I love this idea of just beefing up the Dana 30. I love that you stuck with it … I love mine, and I love this idea. You said people are slamming you for doing this, but myself …. and it seems plenty others, like it as well. I myself would rather go this route … I have it, its there, and anything more would be a waste of money for what I plan to do. I don't need, or WANT to go buy some crazy ass axle assembly that cost more then my whole (1988 Cherokee), when there is no real need for it. That said! I want to be able to deal with whatever gets in my way, and make it home ... this looks to me like the way to go. I thoroughly agree with jrg10332's comments below, and many others. My Dana 30 is completely stock, and its been through hell for 21 years (that's how long I've had it). When it breaks, i'll beef it up with parts such as these …. or if finances allow. But for now, its thoroughly fine, and i'll put the effort and money into other things and modifications that help me get out there in the back country. I love this build thread, and love that you did it, for the rest of us that are cool with what we have …. and will just make what we have better. Good job, thank you. … everyone who slagged that you did this … probably don't wheel, i'm sure... or know the cost of things. Just watch shows with huge budgets, and shops with every possible tool and piece of machinery … and probably don't pay for ANYTHING. "On this episode of our budget build of $30,000.00 and every conceivable tool." I dig my Jeep as is, and dig the Dana 30 and 35, so i'll stick with them. No need for the other stuff.
Way to take a real world look at your build. You said things I've been thinking in spite of all the internet 4x4 mythos out there. Well done I say.
Been running my Dana 30 with 4.88s, 37’s and a Yukon duragrip for a hot minute now. No issues so far, purchased a truss and c gussets today. Figured I might as well run it till it breaks. Got 4 spare axle shafts for next to nothing at the junkyard, and I keep an extra ring and pinion when I wheel. Helluva lot cheaper than a $3500 44 that I’ll have to put gears in!
How are you doing so far? Any breakage?
@@ismaildemircijorge864 doing great, I went to a 44/60 combo to run 40’s. Never broke anything on that 30 though!
The fuse argument has been around since the 70’s, proven over the decades not a good argument. With no locker and 35” and under tires the Dana 30 ring and pinion is not a problem even with a locker. The axle shafts are a dime a dozen and less work than the ring and pinion on the trail but still a pain in the ass. Put some good CM shafts in use it how you say you want to use it and worry about it 15-20 years down the road.
What he said ☝
Smart build, I raced off road for years with a Dana 30, Mint 400, Baja, etc and never broke an axle or dif. It's all about how you drive
I've ran a built dana 30 high pinion on 36's for 5 years and 60,000 miles on a jk with a mechanical locker. No issues. I've seen guys running 37's and 40's on them. Ive seen more 44's break than 30's.
i've run a D30 in my last 3 jeeps.....never broke one. My mud bogger even had a narrow trac D30, and it ripped the ears off the old spindle and left the axle intact. Rule#1.....dont bounce the axle....rule 2....DONT BOUNCE THE AXLE
exactly!
I really like this series of videos on this axle. It may have changed my mind on what I'm doing with my 90 XJ and possibly my son's 97.
cool, great to hear it!
I went a similar route. I did Reid knuckles, locking hubs, Detroit locker, & RCV's. Minus what these naysayers say. The D30 isn't all that bad. I'm running 35" KMII's and don't break stuff.
I've been running a d30 built very similar to yours. I am running Spartan locker, alloy USA chromoly shafts. Been wheeling it on blacks/reds for the past 2 years and on 37" treps the last year.
What vehicle tho ?
I'm doing the same mods (maybe not the sleeves - not sure) for my overland XJ. Mostly hill climbs with mud and gravel here in Costa Rica to get way out in the Bush. One thing I'm doing that you should consider - WJ knuckles and big brakes. I definitely need those for these crazy roads.
love the build!!! I took an 07 jk dana 30 to swap into my WJ plan on doing the same exact thing. Thank you!
you should box those lower control arm brackets. mini skids. I've bent too many lower control arm brackets.
+1 for control arm skids
+1
That's not a bad idea!
totally agree
JCR Offroad has some nice beefy ones
I think it's funny when people say "you could build a Dana 60 for that". Those people have no idea how much Dana 60 parts are. Not to mention the modifications it takes to make them fit
And ... a Dana 60 is dead heavy, way too heavy.
I just built a Dana 60 for my Jeep for under $3500 (including new ujoints, seals, locker, gears, balljoints, etc), they are actually pretty cheap and stronger than the most beefed up D30 or D44. People can build what they want they want depending on their needs and budget, but it doesn't make economic sense to invest in a D30.
Well I just built a Dana 60 for $5 dollars now I’m so bad ass, I troll built Dana 30 videos in my spare time.
@@joshuaduckworth4844 pity
very smart using the axles as the weak link. I blew a ring gear and pulling out the axle shafts on the trail was a pia...
I love this overlander project. Would like to see it in action 👍👍🇵🇷👍👍🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆😁
Excited for your build, awesome stuff.
I built up my stock TJ front Dana 30 with upgrade to 4.56 gears and aftermarket exterior axle seals. I powder coated the axle housing, powder coated the front calipers, installed slotted rotors and new ball joints. Maybe I should of done the same on a Dana 44 retrofit, but like you the axle was there and I had other things to spend limited funds on. oh yes, it also had a Detroit True Locker already in it. I don't take the TJ 4 wheeling off road, but can say it's 4 wheel off road capable.
Rock that Dana 30!!!!
Mine works and I've beat the crap out of it.
Colton S same. I have a 04 LJ with a front dana 30 trussed and sleeved with junk yard otk one ton steering and I wheel the shit out of it. I'm not rock bouncing it or anything. just gotta drive with more skill than skinny pedal and it's fie.
Just stumbled upon this today. D30 isn't a bad axle. People just push them over thier limits. Great build. As far as a front locker, as long as you know you aren't going to be trying out rock bouncing it's fine to go without. I prefer them simply because the truck works easier. That's just me though.
You know what I always say, if somebody wants to give you crap about what you choose to spend your money on, then they can put up the money to buy what they’re telling you you should be buying, otherwise they can shut up.
Love your Dana 30 build...Great job!!!
Iv said before and I’ll die on this hill... a built/beefed d30 is a perfectly capable axle and is even in the right circumstances a comparable to a stock d44 or even stronger, at a fraction of the cost.
I've got two 01 xjs and I have a 96 XJ with a high pinion 30 in it. I've definitely been contemplating building and swapping the high pinion into one of the 01 Jeeps.
I did everything you did except the 1 tonne steering. I did Eaton TruTrac limited slip diff lockers front and rear... Also, left axle shafts stock. I changed the front driveshaft from stock.
I have never run anything but stock diff covers. They can take an unbelievable beating
went that far might as well have done wj knuckles. the brakes are 10x better and steering is a nice upgrade as well
Mine is all that but trussed, plus it has a locker and RCVs. WJ brakes stop leaps and bounds better than the stock, with far less pedal pressure.
Crap... I didn't think of the WJ knuckle swap... Maybe I'm NOT done :)
BleepinJeep
I guarantee you won't be disappointed!!!!
I did the WJ swap. Your build is pretty solid even without it. How much more does the axle weigh now over stock? I'm guessing another 100 lbs.
jeep...done? HA!
I like the truetrac lockers. If you got one wheel off the ground you slightly press on the brakes to put sum drag on the freewheeling wheel, and the locker will engage. The U.S. military uses truetrac lockers in many of the trucks. Plus they aren't that expensive, and basically got no parts that will prematurely wear out.
Not a locker is lsd also hummer use torson lsd . Same thing different brand .
Nice and thanks , i have dana 30 and im doing the same sleve ,truss ,axel and gears my been working very good ,hooo and 35 tires ,led have fun
i put a spartan locker in mine a year ago works fine
I think your right the dana 30s are not bad I think there a good axle it's all in what your doing with them and they are a dime a doze
The fact that you do your own work makes you far more legitimate to upgrade that 30.
thats cool man, good work
I would love to see a little more information and detail on your spindles and modification you did to strengthen them Thanks
Great job! It's what I have as well and what I intend to build for the same reasons. Thanks for the video.
No worries, I have an over built dana 30 on my jk. Looks and works good!
Hey I know You're not alone in the D30 lovers dept. I have always had good luck with mine
you go sir. have done the same to my d30 in my 2011 jk 2d. Moog ball joints, artec truss with c-clips, nitro sleeves an axle shafts, b.lees steering kit, an solid diff. cover. d30 are just as strong as d44, my opinion. my jk sees more rocks than anything. no problems so far. for each his own 👍👍 on your build.
Great video, great information and nice build. Building my "RUSTY NUT" 2000 WJ now. You got me thinking about another whole can of worms now.
If the Dana 30 works for you i say go for it. I swapped for Dana 60s front and rear though on my '97 Ram. A bit overkill but the cool factor is worth it to me. Also if you had manual hub locks they act as a fuse and will be your break point. It's easiest and quickest to replace a hub lock than anything else. You can even still drive.
You gave up some of your turning radius by adding those washers. Not really a big deal but you could have used off set tie rod ends and had plenty of clearance, unless your using 15 inch wheels.
Ya, using 15" wheels and I didn't want to pay to replace the already new ball joints included in the JCR kit. I'm really not loosing a whole lot of turning radius, so I'm ok with moving the stops a little.
just found this channel I have an 06 F250 Harley Davidson edition unmolested other than a full fabtech 6" lift sitting on 305-70-18 and love it.. really enjoyed the video going to dig in and do what every new subscriber does and play catch up! thumbs up and subbed! thanks for the great upload!
Thanks Sarge!
Would love for you to review these upgrade Tyler!
Back 1 year later for an update!
Awesome vid my dude, thnx for the share. I love it. I’m keeping my Dana 30 😎
I did a very similar build to a HP D30 a long time ago...and thought i was doing very budgetary things (included free Dana 30), but I ended up dumping $700 into it (WJ Knuckle Swap - sourced from a junkyard, built my own truss, Akebono brake upgrade from a parts recylcler, 4.56 gears, artec lower control arm mounts, upgraded to 297 u-joint shafts). At the end of the day, $700 could have got me a lot further with buying the right d44 out of a junkyard. I never ended up being able to throw it under the project I built it for and ended up having to sell it on CL and not get my money out of it. I thought I was being frugal, lesson learned build the d44 from the get go.
Str8sixfan
a dana 44 sucks just as bad the only thing better on them is the ring&pinion everything else the same
Fair enough. FWIW they do have higher spline count axle shafts. But what I meant was I could have found a D44 easier with crossover steering and a steeper gear set and worthwhile mounts than the typical litter of D30s.
Ever thought of stronger knuckles, bigger brakes, high steer kit to bring up that 1 ton tie rod above your diff cover, and possible spin free locking hubs from teraflex in the future?
Thanks for the video man!
People who bash the HPD30, often don't know what they are talking about, you can make them as bullet proof as any other axel, with the added benefit of being lighter than a 1 ton, with the same upgrades. If the 1 tons are so good, why do you have to truss, and modify them to make them strong, and the they are twice as heavy as a modified HPD30. As for lockers, I would much rather have a locker up front, and an open diff out back, a locker up front can often get you out of trouble.
Sweet 30 though none the less. Still running my 30. Had my V8'ed YJ since 2001.
Nice job. I have a bent axle shaft right now and want to do a gear swap shortly. I don't care to upgrade my D30 because I don't wheel a whole lot any way but I do run 35s because I like the look haha
In your honest opinion, do you think you could run 37’s if you only did overlanding with this?
Roll what you want for an axle. Seriously, I would bet that most guys complaining about the dana 30 don't need anything beefier themselves.
especially if they're not stupid on the skinny pedal.
And some of us do :) we abuse our junk . And Detroit locker all ways on .
"Strong" and Dana 30 are words that go together. The ring and pinion is still tiny and all of the money thrown at a Dana 30 could've just been saved for getting a stronger axle.
Dana 30 life
Ballin!
Offset tie-rods would be better and a Torsen Traction Dana 30, 3.73 gears. I love the Dana 30's!
Nice axle build. Watch out for those mud wasps under your hood though. Lol
20+ XJs and ZJs at my local wrench a part and only 2 yes TWO are all that have non CV style axles on them. And one had abs ring which is what was broken on mine. You might stock up on a pair for back up if you find a good set.
I've got a large stash of D30 parts I've accumulated over the years. That's another reason I went with this axle for the Overlander.
Love the visor! I need to pick one of those up before the Fallon 250. I also wear glasses, and you've got to have something to block the backside glare. The goofy arsed hats they sell today either have some stupid looking 6" wide brim visor, or they stick up 8" like you're a member of the Conehead family. And then the so called "vented" ones still bake the top of your head like it's in an oven. I think I'll find a golf Pro Shop and pick up a PING visor!
Oh, and great job on the axle!
hahaha! ya, I hate how hot a regular hat is and I have such a weird shaped head, they don't fit me anyway. Visors for the win!
So it's time to rebuild my d30 on my 2000xj. What brand yall have the best luck with? I'm looking at the Spicer one. Not gonna regear it just so the bearings and seals
You can cryo the ring and pinion as well as add 30 spline axles and a full carrier locker. Ive seen dana 44 sized ctm u joints break before anything else in the dana 30 does so the 30 is no weak axle if its breaking dana 44 ctm's
IMO Dana 30’s are strong. Their biggest enemies are lockers. They can be put in Dana 30’s but at that point your common sense when wheeling must be used in conjunction with locker button…. Cool build
Great video. This is what I am going to do!
I'm planning on doing the same build with my jk d30. Except with air locker.
Looks good man, I'd put it on my jeep.
Looks great but why didn´t you put the tied rod over the steering arms?
The Dana 30 is great but now your weakness is those stock brakes. Vanco or WJ are pretty much necessary.
I have A Dana 30 on my 1972 jeep just purchased to rebuild . Some one remove shaft , center gear , cover and pinion. All the stuff was lost and the thing was exposed for many years. I’ve had the whole housing and knuckles cleaned and de rusted . Where can I buy all needed parts to fill the housing again ? Also some instruction ? Does anyone specialize in selling a package for completely emty housing bolts , shims and all ?
It'd be interesting to put super strong shafts in and push this axle to it's breaking point just to see what it can take. Obviously since this was built for a reason already that won't happen. But I'd like to see how it compares to something like a d60. Pretty sure it's stronger than a 44 already
if ur just overlanding your really beatin on it , but if you are out in the middle of no were you'll wish you had at least a lunch bow locker....do it before its to late
With the rear Torsen and a winch on the front, I'm confident I can get out of just about anything. I almost never use my front locker in my YJ with that Truetrac in the back. I will probably end up putting a locker up front in the Overlander anyway, but right now the funds need to go elsewhere to get the build done.
Good job. Might as well use what you have.
Would you mind Sharing more on the knuckles and how you adapted them to a D30 and what they are off of, I have a 5.3 in my TJ and I really need to beef it up besides the truss and such
I have a factory stock?? dana 30 on a 95wrangler yj and have had zero trouble with it ( knock on wood ) so far! but how much damage can a 70 yo lady do??
Rock that YJ!
Awesome work man 🙌🏼🙌🏼💪🏻💪🏻
Arm and hammer work just as good for de-rusting
I don't have much of an issue with the Dana 30 under my JK Wrangler. has 35's and 5:13 gears and it's never broken on me yet over 8 years, and I'm definitely not nice to it.
I like it.
I like it. I'm not sold on the validity of building a D30, when you might be able to get a brand new 44 already built for not much more money. BUT i get where you're going, and I like that you made what you had work. I dont know if it's already in the comments, but what'd all this end up costing you? I'm tempted to build the 30 in my LJ, or get a HP 30 from an XJ and build/swap that, but I'm also considering something like the G2 44 front. The cost of the G2 didnt seem much higher than the cost of all of the mods for the 30. Just wondering how that panned out for your build.
I haven't actually figured out what the total cost is to do all these mods. Guess I ought to do that so you all have an idea what you're getting into if you go this route.
nice build dude!
The gasket for that diff cover is like a two dollar part. That gasket maker goo will cause you more trouble than it's worth. All that effort, and you're week link is a gasket. Or the lack of one rather.
Just about everything I've read online says don't bother locking a D30 because the gears won't last. I am still on the fence on upgrading my TJ to D44's. These videos offer a tempting alternative to the D44, but I am wary of all the comments I've seen saying don't install a locker in a D30
Mike Hartmann
my 98 tj has 4.56, arb locker with big splines and axle shafts for years now and hasn't broken. I wouldnt be surprised if it did break tho. The high pinion xj 30 makes for a better build
I've been running an OX locker in the front D30 of my YJ for over 10 years. You need to be conservative on the throttle, but if you're careful, the D30 will survive a locker. It all depends on your driving style. Just NEVER bounce it. Its the shock-loading that kills these axles.
I have a tru-trac and 4.88s in my HP30 with zero issues so far on 35's I mash all the trails in Big Bear, ca.
The Dana 30 is killer axle I'm running 36 inch tires.
Well it sure is pretty!
I like my ARB diff covers
I have a d30 ARB locker IN SHED FS. Thanks
Nice . thanks for the video detail's.
I am with you. I have the HP30 and bought a locker on black Friday for $600. I have an e-locker with 30 spine axles but I will run 27 spline outers - so I if anything breaks it will be the outer and not the gears - what do you think I am going overland also.
thank you for not building a ridiculous axle for something that isn't ever going to bounce down a mountain side. Having a front locker is fun but paying for all the broken parts because of the front locker isn't
Patrick Haskins ....and just what color is your purse and tampon preference?
tony your a troll....grow up
matt sez at least I don't make videos about motorhomes....
because you couldnt figure one out
There's always the truetrac.
Nice build! So over the brainwashed internet folks thinking every 4x4 needs 1 tons. There are axles for different purposes I believe.
That's b/c the rocks are way bigger & harder on the internet.
Jay P but it looks cool when you have somethin like a rockwell under your rig that you use to get groceries. lmao i love my dana 30, its perfect for my light 4wheeling habbits.
Yea man there isn't anything wrong with rocking a Dana 30. If you want to go hard with some 40s on rocks and what not then you may want to look else where. Otherwise there are numerous people out there doing just fine on Dana 30s. I beefed up my Rubicon Dana 44 a little bit I run 37s and I like the combo. I DO NOT rock race so as much as I would enjoy 1 tons they are just overkill. ROFL Rockwells on a the grocery getter haha.