Thanks! And I feel you on the white builds; dust is more easily visible. It’s why I prefer darker toned builds…I can neglect them and not clean my pc for longer periods haha
Typically a "shroud" in the old days, was used to raise the fans 10-15-20 etc. off of the radiator so you loose the dead spot under or over the fan hub. These, I'm assuming are so the fans are more aesthetically pleasing, which I love. I hate the way most fans have ugly sides with visible screws. I don't have an opinion on the dust filters other than It would be a total PITA to have to unscrew all that when you do inevitably have to clean your fans. Anyway, have you ever thought about making these as proper shroud lifts.??? There are quite a few etsy guys making them.... but a lot are case specific.. most I have seen are for the lian li 011. I would definitely be interested if you were to make some that were half and half. Half covers the fan and then there is 15-20mm left over before it attached to the radiator.. that way you pretty up the side of the fan and get more surface area of the rad available. Performance pc is the only place I see them commercially available. But just as an extender . You seem young but in the early days of water cooling this was a very "in" thing, along with fan grills and filtering everything. Anyway just a thought. Sorry for the rant. Oh they do have one on Amazon "Phobya 140x140x20mm Shroud Plexi Air Cooling Fan Shrouds"
There's no need to apologize - this is a very insightful perspective! Yes, these were primarily designed to enhance aesthetics above all else. Now that you mention it, I will conduct more research on lifted fan shrouds and their effects on performance. I plan to either create an adapter that can be added to the existing design or completely redesign the fan shrouds with water cooling in mind this time. You can expect to see a finished product and official release in the coming months. A bit of background about me: I have limited experience with water cooling since I’ve always preferred air cooling paired with a solid fan configuration. The last water cooler I owned was an AIO, the Corsair H60 from 2012, and it was kind of sh** TBH, haha. I've never pursued the few extra degrees of temperature reduction that come from custom loops or AIOs, as the difference is often marginal compared to a good air cooler paired with an effective fan setup. However, there’s no doubt that a substantial market/community of PC builders and enthusiasts exists who aim to maximize performance from their hardware. I did release some benchmarks and results in this video about CPU temperatures, which you can find at 1:47. I fitted the 120mm version of a fan shroud onto a be quiet! Dark Rock Slim air cooler (it took a bit of modifying, but it worked) and found that average temperatures increased by 1.45 degrees Celsius. However, this change had no negative impact on the Cinebench scores, leading me to conclude that it didn’t affect day-to-day performance. Nevertheless, there is a marginal negative effect from this design (anything that filters dust from fans will increase air restriction to some degree), so there is room for improvement in future iterations of this design. Anyway, I appreciate the comment and insight - this is going to give me something to work on in the coming months. Thanks! Best, Alex
These look very cool! I am curious about if there's any change in noise tone or dust permeation? I know that metal mesh filters do let through more dust but it might still be a good filter overall.
Thank you! I haven't noticed any change in noise levels from the fans, but the steel grill/filter allow for significant airflow with minimal restriction, which means the fan motors are not affected and working harder. Interestingly, I never intended for these shrouds to serve as dust filters; it was simply a byproduct of their design-a happy accident! :)
@@particlestudiosio I look forward to seeing more about how they perform and as well future projects :) Also, it seems a welcome back to RUclips is in order! It seems a lot happened in ~4 years, and you're back better than ever. :)
I like how it looks, and i'm learning fast that an all white build has been a nightmare for dust, and cleaning the cpu radiators is not fun.
Thanks! And I feel you on the white builds; dust is more easily visible. It’s why I prefer darker toned builds…I can neglect them and not clean my pc for longer periods haha
Typically a "shroud" in the old days, was used to raise the fans 10-15-20 etc. off of the radiator so you loose the dead spot under or over the fan hub.
These, I'm assuming are so the fans are more aesthetically pleasing, which I love. I hate the way most fans have ugly sides with visible screws. I don't have an opinion on the dust filters other than It would be a total PITA to have to unscrew all that when you do inevitably have to clean your fans. Anyway, have you ever thought about making these as proper shroud lifts.???
There are quite a few etsy guys making them.... but a lot are case specific.. most I have seen are for the lian li 011. I would definitely be interested if you were to make some that were half and half. Half covers the fan and then there is 15-20mm left over before it attached to the radiator.. that way you pretty up the side of the fan and get more surface area of the rad available.
Performance pc is the only place I see them commercially available. But just as an extender . You seem young but in the early days of water cooling this was a very "in" thing, along with fan grills and filtering everything. Anyway just a thought. Sorry for the rant. Oh they do have one on Amazon "Phobya 140x140x20mm Shroud Plexi Air Cooling Fan Shrouds"
There's no need to apologize - this is a very insightful perspective! Yes, these were primarily designed to enhance aesthetics above all else. Now that you mention it, I will conduct more research on lifted fan shrouds and their effects on performance. I plan to either create an adapter that can be added to the existing design or completely redesign the fan shrouds with water cooling in mind this time. You can expect to see a finished product and official release in the coming months.
A bit of background about me: I have limited experience with water cooling since I’ve always preferred air cooling paired with a solid fan configuration. The last water cooler I owned was an AIO, the Corsair H60 from 2012, and it was kind of sh** TBH, haha. I've never pursued the few extra degrees of temperature reduction that come from custom loops or AIOs, as the difference is often marginal compared to a good air cooler paired with an effective fan setup.
However, there’s no doubt that a substantial market/community of PC builders and enthusiasts exists who aim to maximize performance from their hardware. I did release some benchmarks and results in this video about CPU temperatures, which you can find at 1:47. I fitted the 120mm version of a fan shroud onto a be quiet! Dark Rock Slim air cooler (it took a bit of modifying, but it worked) and found that average temperatures increased by 1.45 degrees Celsius. However, this change had no negative impact on the Cinebench scores, leading me to conclude that it didn’t affect day-to-day performance. Nevertheless, there is a marginal negative effect from this design (anything that filters dust from fans will increase air restriction to some degree), so there is room for improvement in future iterations of this design.
Anyway, I appreciate the comment and insight - this is going to give me something to work on in the coming months. Thanks!
Best,
Alex
I would say making a mag screw that goes into the fan so the filter shroud can attached magnetically would be far more convenient
Very interesting idea! Would make installation easier. Thanks for the feedback
@@particlestudiosiothe overall design is sleek and simple. It looks fantastic!
These look very cool! I am curious about if there's any change in noise tone or dust permeation? I know that metal mesh filters do let through more dust but it might still be a good filter overall.
Thank you! I haven't noticed any change in noise levels from the fans, but the steel grill/filter allow for significant airflow with minimal restriction, which means the fan motors are not affected and working harder. Interestingly, I never intended for these shrouds to serve as dust filters; it was simply a byproduct of their design-a happy accident! :)
@@particlestudiosio I look forward to seeing more about how they perform and as well future projects :)
Also, it seems a welcome back to RUclips is in order! It seems a lot happened in ~4 years, and you're back better than ever. :)
@@TurboBass Tysm!