I just can’t get over how Jim Bob and Michelle act like Jill wearing a nose ring is so much worse than everything Josh did. They shunned her and are doing everything in their power to protect Josh. Just crazy!
I’m not sure… I got the feeling from the court readings that Jill chooses to stay away from her family, especially her dad. I’m not saying JimBob would throw his arms wide open to see her. But I feel Jill’s staying away is largely her choice.
Spot on. The letter is so tone deaf and delusional. He did extremely disgusting things and she has blinders on. It makes me angry. She doesn't even want him to be accountable and implies that the judge giving him a long sentence would be unfair.
Where was his kind heart when seeking out extra-marital relations? Where was his tender and compassionate heart when seeking out and downloading those awful images that contained babies and children being abused? These people live in a very scary and dangerous world. Your Honor - PLEASE - MAXIMUM SENTENCE!
I was kidnapped at knife point, attacked and almost didn't live through it. The slime ball did it to 8 other women before it WAS CAUGHT 😁🤗😅 In court "it's" mom kept yelling out "My son is a good boy"...while listening to 9 women tell the judge how her "good boy" almost ended their lives by strangulation and stabbing 🙄😒🤔 What I learned from this is...when a mother tells a judge that her kid is really a good person, she's REALLY saying "I'm not a bad mom". 😤
@@tcuplvr thank you, thank you very much, your empathy warms my heart...going to court was so empowering, looking it in the eye whilst telling a judge what it did so cathartic...it went to San Quentin...9 women won 💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃
I am so very sorry that you went through this and then had to suffer hearing it’s mom pleading that it was a good son. I, too, am a survivor of SA by the hands of my sperm donor. In fact, I believe all of my sisters were but I still had family got upset that the sperm donor didn’t give me away at my (first or second wedding) it definitely messes with you forever. So very thankful I have the husband that I do now. But I did plenty to test him. I have a lot of guilt I carry for multiple reasons. So thankful you’re still here with us 💕
Imagine being one of her daughters and reading about how your mother is defending your brother after he did horrific things to you but she can't be bothered to tell your dad that he shouldn't shun you for wearing pants,getting your nose pierced or moving,with your husband,so he can go to school?
I hope the judge realizes that he needs to protect his children for as long as possible because Anna and his family are completely incapable of having any discernment where he is concerned.
That's exactly what I was thinking. He needs to be locked up at least until his children reach adulthood just to protect them because the adults in that family apparently have no regard for the safety of all those kids they insist on having. Really how can you claim to love children soooooooo much and think they're such blessings but yet when a predator is repeatedly victimizing them right under your nose you turn a blind eye. They can GTFO with all their fake love.
I saw this, and instantly had second hand embarrassment for this woman. Not only is the letter cringe worthy, but does she have no one in her life that loves her enough to point out that the heart over the i is highly NOOOOO!
The religion really infantilizes the woman. I’m horrified by and for them. Michelle made the decision to adopt this lifestyle, but Anna and the Duggar daughters were forced into this life. I imagine Anna is terrified to be left alone because she’s been taught that she’s *unable* to care for herself or her children.
Didn’t she go to regular school? Can she not sign her name in cursive like most adults her age?🤦🏼♀️ I know the schools don’t teach it now, but they did back then!
I found myself nodding "yes" to everything you said. If Michelle is a Christian, her attention is in the wrong direction of this situation. How about being a strong force to stop CP?
She would probably say something ridiculous like if they turned their hearts to God that kind of stuff wouldn't happen or God's love would get them through it.
@@crystalsnow1138 yes my mother in law goes to a pencostal church her son (my brother in law) suffered from mental illness & unfortunately killed himself. My mother in law’s response to all of this was if he prayed more this wouldn’t have happened. These people are SICK!!
"He's wise financially and doesn't good into debt." So Anna should be comfortable over the next 20 years! After all she can always live in a fort to save money.
If Michelle or Anna admit that Josh has failed, it would mean they have failed. Nobody wants to admit that they have failed. What a truly bizarre family.
Right, and often times when the men fail they blame the women for not being enough or not supporting the men correctly. I think that is a lot to put on another person. Josh made his choices and the consequences need to be his too.
Failures are common factor of all human beings.....the test of character is if we OWN our mistakes or if we continue to lie and deny. Joshy was taught the later. I wish he was sentenced to be tortured daily
I was SA by someone in our church as a child maybe 9 or 10 years old. I repressed it until I was an adult and married. Finally I found out that this respected person had done this to multiple children. We tried to prosecute, unfortunately the statute of limitations was over so we could not send him to prison but we were able to expose him to the church so he could not harm anyone else at our church. I found out of his death last year so I had to come to terms that he never showed remorse his actions. So this letter makes me ill because my abuser was married and I feel she enabled him.😪😪
I wish you continued healing. Don’t fret about not being able to report. It’s not worth it. The “justice” system doesn’t work. You would’ve just been ignored and humiliated. Speaking from experience and have also seen this happen to others.
It is disgusting to me that there is even a statute of limitations on anything involving children. May your heart and mind find peace. That being said-this ridiculous parenting team of JB and Michelle is horrible. And Anna is as bad as they are-they are all enablers.
Michelle missed her chance to shape her son to be honest, upstanding human being. The upbringing he received created the man he is today. It's too late to change it now.
Why would it be a positive that she will be there with the family to lead him to be a better man and father? Like you said it didn’t work in the past and it only got worse and worse. Why would anyone believe they can save him?
Also I love how she lists all the things Josh and his kids do together….”learning skills and spending time together” Those are his kids that’s what he is SUPPOSED to DO! Those things aren’t exceptional.
Thoughts of Josh doing things with his children would not encourage me to give a shorter sentence if I was the Judge. Give the full 20 to keep the kids out of Josh's reach for the rest of their childhoods. Of course mama Anna will spend the 20 years teaching them how great Josh is and how he is the victim of a conspiracy (so he may get to be around his grandkids).
The denial in these letters is offensively immeasurable. The lengths this “family” is willing to go through to not only deny what he has done but cover up and also aid Josh’s crimes is revolting and atrocious. It is because of people like his wife and his parents that egregious crimes against children are able to happen. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Unbelievable that she would write a letter like this. She is as sick as josh is!!!! So sad that she can’t even acknowledge the terrible things he has done to her own daughters let alone the innocent children in the films. As a child of SA I can tell you it never goes away. I can only pray that his sisters get therapy to understand it was not their fault and that just because someone is family that does not make them a good person. Bad things happen to good people and his sisters were placed in this situation by no fault of their own. They now have to learn how to deal with what happened and the parents and people that did not protect them.
Poor Jill. The way her parents fawn over her abusive, depraved, deeply dishonest brother must be so maddening and painful for her. They shun HER, probably their kindest, most earnest, and truly compassionate child. It's such a shameful betrayal by her parents.
I agree 💯. Honestly if you asked me 10+ years ago which Duggar kid would have been the one to not stay in the cult, it would never have been Jill. Im so happy for her but so disgusted with her family for how they treat her. It sends a message to the younger children to not go against their beliefs, or risk being completely cut off from the family. It's toxic and dangerous
Yes but you think about it she's lucky. Them doing that helps her get away from them. They are showing her who she they are. They're not worth her time.
@@merricat3025 true but that's easier said than done. Even if her family aren't healthy people to be around, they are still the people she loves and who raised her and that can be really hard to lose. That is why what they have done is so disgusting to me. They arent only shunning Jill, they are showing all the younger siblings still living at home that if they dare disobey Jim Bob, they will also be cut from the family and essentially disowned, ensuring the younger children are too fearful to follow in Jill's footsteps
Okay-this letter sounds like a reference letter one would give to a high school student for a character reference! What is happening here?!? It is astonishing how out of touch with reality they are!
So let’s get this straight Josh can do things that are against the law but when it comes to the girls like Jill going against her parents rules is unforgivable 🤪🤷♀️. From Vancouver British Columbia 🇨🇦
Exactly. In their world, Jill getting a nose ring, wearing pants and drinking a little bit of alcohol IS INSANELY worse than what the monster Josh has done. The Duggars are dangerous, plain and simple.
My thoughts exactly! Wearing pant and having a drink is unthinkable but being molesting your sisters, cheating on your wife, and possessing some of the most sickening pictures and videos of young children being sexually molested is just fine…. Very very disturbing.
Strives to be a blessing - by SAing sisters, cheating on wife and dealing in CP. If this is what she considers a blessing I can’t imagine what she considers to be curse.
"My heart is to share some things..." What? This is so terrible on so many levels. It really says so much about Michelle. And it's not anything good. Can you imagine a judge reading "he has a tender heart". 🤦♀️
Huge fan of Jill! I had hoped she’d go to medical school after I saw the episode of them learning how to be midwives, but her husband becoming a lawyer and their family learning so much about the law and making the world a better place for children is a great goal as well!
Well, when all of Jill's kids are in school, she can go to college herself to become a certified nurse midwife. The family will be financially stable by that time because of Derick's profession. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland
And if she decides to be a full time “work at home mom” that’s also a valuable career. She can now choose whatever career she wants and it can change over time as the kids get older. Or she can benefit her community with extra volunteer work, maybe supporting what Derrick is going to do to help children. Lots of true choices now!
Heartbreaking. Anyone that SA a innocent child should face the death penalty. Those abused children will never get their innocence back. There is no restitution. Child predators do not change, EVER
Yes Mishelle still in her school cheerleader's game for to satisfy her sexually sick husband. Haha. Guess she lost her bigger part of brain during one of her nonstop labors. But she is still in her dreams, when she is picking under skirts of her dauthers- in-law during their labors times. She is still thinking that there she is primer movie actor
According to the letters from Michelle, Anna, etc., Josh was a perfect role model in the community. (in front of people) Therefore he should not have a lengthy jail sentence. 🤷♀️ Behind closed doors he was a monster. Josh was above the law while living under JB’s rules and lies but now Josh has to answer and follow the rules of the court.
It seems like Josh learned denial lessons well from his parents as he grew up...denial and living in a fantasy world made up by his parents mind's while the little children was living reality and crying out for help. Some people live a lie so well they actually believe over time after creating lies that is actually reality...sad
AND that the violation, abuse, and substandard treatment of vulnerable children and girls IS ENCOURAGED with NO ACCOUNTABILITY (it seems; my opinion only)! Judge needs to look into parents and their attitude towards the treatment of children and girls ..... this seems to be the root evil of this family in my opinion.
There is no way these letters from Michelle & Anna are going to sway the Judge in Josh’s favor. The judge is going to recognize them as two of Josh’s major enablers 🤦🏻♀️.
She wants to act as though he didn't do what is, next to killing those children, THE MOST horrific thing a human can do...she's DERANGED. Not that we didn't know that already.
Josh enjoyed some of the most depraved content ever created. No one with a “tender heart” could stomach viewing such horror. Any other reasonable person would feel traumatized from simply hearing the details of some of those films. He found immense pleasure from those images.
This is a weird letter. I mean WEIRD. If this were my son, I would ask the Judge to judge rightly and help my son get help - but keep him locked up and serve the entirety of his sentence. I wouldn’t brag about his good works when he is guilty of CSAM. That minimizes the gravity of the crime and minimizes the damaging effects of every victim. Insane…
Michelle and JimBob had their time to guide and direct him to become a wonderful man. The assignment was a failure. No, tenderhearted men do NOT enjoy watching babies being tortured. Gag.
Does this deluded woman actually know what this was evil man is charged with? She is talking about building forts and going fishing!! Her son has been watching children and babies being tortured in the most horrific ways, and she talks of fishing! She's absolutely lost the plot!!
Not to be too nit-pickity, but it’s weird she said “hello” after “your honor”. Also, if he was compassionate, he wouldn’t have downloaded DD. Lastly, it’s weird her and Anna saying how great a husband and father he is when he had multiple affairs, and spent all that money on porn stars and his double life.
If Josh had a “tender heart,” and was truly compassionate he would have never sought out torture csam. Also, I think it’s fabulous the people writing these letters of support mention the children frequently. I believe the judge will understand they are at high risk if Josh is freed.
Personally as a judge I would read this letter and be even more convinced he needs to be in there the longest time needed because he clearly doesn't have anyone to hold him accountable in the outside world
You said what most of us are thinking. He is a monster that should never be let out of prison and the whole family should be investigated. They hide behind religion,
here's the thing... she talked about who he was prior to his arrest and conviction but left out the deplorable parts of his life and character. and then she said she was ready to still love and support him when he is released... LADY! Your love and support has gotten him exactly where he is today; facing 240 months in prison! not saying it's her fault he is like this, but no amount of her love and support has helped him change or transform his life. she and I'm sure Jim Bob will refuse to admit to any wrongdoing by Josh so she can't even give the judge a proper promise to help him change or keep children safe around him. this letter is like saying "hey he wasn't so bad before as long as you ignore any bad things he did, so let him out so he can keep being him" being him is a disgusting human being. lock him up and throw away the key
@@Astrophysicistinthemaking absolutely! Just like children who have childhood cancer, or who become ill with some other condition it's not the parents fault. BUT you are exactly right, if a child gets cancer and a parent does nothing to treat it and they get worse or lose their life, that is on the parent. They could have gotten the child help and treatment and done everything they could. Josh is sick, he's been sick since he was a child. He needed treatment and counseling and therapy, the duggar's thoughts and prayers literally did nothing to help him so they are now, in part, responsible for who he is today. *I will also add that no matter the reason Josh is the way he is its unacceptable. Research does show that the majority of offenders have been victims themselves at one point, again not an excuse for him to be an adult and not seek treatment nor for his parents to have ignored his issues and not gotten him help, but there is a chance this was done to him as a child and that's a really sad thought because if that happened that person may never be brought to justice and the ripple effect they created has hurt so many lives along the way
I can't anymore with these people. Neither Michelle nor Anna seem to care about the victims in this case. There is no mention of the harm done to others or of any of them express remorse for any of this. They are so gross. Just awful.
So sad, no concern for the safety of his own kids by his wife or mom. Nor are they asking for him to be rehabilitated. If they can’t even see he needs that they are incapable of protecting those kids.
I made similar observations on someone else's comment. It's inappropriate for. Michelle to sign a legal document like a grade schooler. I also think it makes Michelle look immature and not taking this matter seriously.
I understand a Mom loving and wanting better for her child, but she has a bad apple in the crowd. He broke the law and violated family members and disgraced the family on top of all of it. She needs intervention about, do the crime, pay the time.
AND DID APPARENTLY NOTHING PROTECTING THE YOUNG CHILDREN AND GIRLS EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW ABOUT HIS CRIMES!!!!! Unbelievable....too bad hey can not be prosecuted for contributed in the delinquency of a child at the EXPENSE of their other children! My opinion only.
Oh how I wish I could write Michelle, where she would actually read it. Josh DOES NOT have a “tender” heart. He has a deceitful heart that is evil just like his dad. If Michelle truly had Josh’s best interests at heart, if she truly loved him, she would be begging the judge to pass down the max sentence. Josh has committed such evil acts not only to his siblings, and wife but to his other victims as well. Michelle should be pleading with Josh to admit his wrong doing, to stop all the lies and blame shifting and to confess to everyone his acts. He needs to pay the maximum sentence, go to counseling, and work at rehab for his sick, twisted mind. Furthermore, Michelle needs to grow a spine and tell JB to just shut up, stop lying to everyone, and stop defending Josh’s actions. I’m so sick of this family (JB, Mich, Anna, and Josh) constantly proclaiming Christ out of one side of their mouth and lying about Josh out of the other side.
Agree 100%. And with 20 children and endless grandchildren watching this as an example, how long will it be before another "Josh" is uncovered in the family??
My Father was TENDER hearted HE was truly an amazing human and father. He never looked at those things. His life was his family and protected us all especially me being his little girl. When a neighbor assaulted me when I was younger my Father and Brother both dealt with the guy when police said I was too young to testify and would be traumatized. My Dad Was a real Christian. He also got me professional help immediately lasting years
GAG. Not one mention of the crimes he committed, and how the family plans to support him in breaking the habit of touching kids. I hope the judge sees right through this sh…stuff.
And all these "family activities", did his daughters participate in bicycle and car repair, camping, hunting, fishing and sports? Probably not! Exactly what "activities" did he share with his little girls? Yeah, probably something horrific, in my opinion!!
Very good point! I'm sure that Josh's financial help comes with a price. Either the widow pays, the children pay, or all of them pay. The IBLP and like organizations keep women dependent so that they're left helpless when something goes wrong. Then predators like Josh can swoop in. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland
John Wayne Gacy was a good guy in his community also, always there to help others, volunteered, etc.... and was a serial killer on the side. I don't understand why Michelle D, or Anna, think that his good deeds seem to wipe out the horrors of crime - especially since it involved children.
Clearly, she can barely find anything nice to say about him at all. This is the kind of letter I would expect from a mom who wanted her son to stay in jail but is asked to write a letter to the judge. All she can fall back on are the qualities her cult says she must respect and admire in MEN, like "working diligently." Like the ordinary man stuff he does can make up for his perverse crimes.
Michelle always speaks of how children are such a blessing from God. I wish she would have seen the horrific footage from court of these abused little children. As always, I’m left scratching my head in confusion about how they can accept Josh’s sick behavior.
Because it's normal in groups like the IBLP. JB said that when he talked about Josh's crimes against his sisters to other people in his church, they all said that it was common! Groups like these create monsters like Josh. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland
It has been my experience that judges really don't put much weight on letters like these. When the boom comes & we find out the number of years he will serve on sentencing day, it will be a big shock to all of his family & friends.
@@pattyo4703 I expect that the number of years (hopefully the max allowable) will be a big shock to those of his supporters who still believe he's innocent. Then we'll probably hear from Michelle & JB, et al, all about how wrong the judge was to sentence him to that many years bc he didn't do anything so bad that was worth that many years. The 5 year sentence (which is the mandatory minimum) his lawyers want is a pipe dream with Josh's history.
You hit on all the fine points as to why Josh is where he is at this time. Parents, religion, brainwashing, misogyny topped off with a layer of sickness that's sexually based. Great job, Katie....
I sure hope the sisters and parents of the children in the material he downloaded write victim impact statements that point out the devastating consequences of his acts against them. 20 years gets his children to adulthood and out of danger of harm to them.
One of the vid child victims mother did, with her daughter's words. It was bad. The child said, don't you know you're not supposed to do stuff like that to little kids, and that it hurts?? Paraphrased.
These are the kind of letters I would expect for someone who has been convicted of something like tax evasion, etc. Not for a crime that involves innocent children. I am shocked. Knowing that both of them want him home ASAP makes me worry for the safety of the kids.
His " tender" heart has broken sacred marriage vows. His "tender" heart has violated and victimized his sisters. His "tender" heart has committed one of the most vile of all crimes. We don't know the magnitude and extent of what else his "tender" heart will do when he is released from prison. How dare Michelle do this to her own grandchildren? She's as sick as he is.
That❤️ to dot the “I” in her name-I just can’t!! I wonder if admitting he is guilty and has done horrible things would be admitting that they failed in some aspects of their parenting. Don’t ever see that happening in Duggarville.
IMO Michelle and Anna's letters have probably done more harm than good in terms of their agenda to minimize his sentence. They have perfectly illustrated to the judge why Josh should not be let off with a light sentence. They have demonstrated just how deep the delusion and insanity run in the family. That dynamic does not bode well for for Josh's reform.
My husband spends time with our son. We go on walks and outings. He does projects around the house. Goes into his job on his off time to fix things. Normal day to day things. Never has he SA’d small children or watched CSAM on a secret, partitioned computer. Delusional. This letter is absolutely delusional.
It sounds like she's in denial just like her dil. Either that or they can't address the crimes due to a possible appeal. Both are in a rock and a hard place if they did believe his crimes. Support you kid/husband because you feel obligated too, but he deserves the harshest punishment if you believe. Additionally, Anna saying she wanted him to come back to her and her kids, wow, any judge would think she's nuts a give him the harshest allowed by law. Maybe that's the purpose? Probably not, but one never knows.
Hypothetical question: If Josh got 5yrs would he be able to see his kids under Anna's supervision again or as registered S.O will all contact be cut off? If it's 5 or 20 what about the kids??
That's what I keep wondering. No way should Josh D be around any children. Anna is NOT an adequate supervisor. Anna may have let him do who knows what at the Rebers' house. Anna isn't allowed to tell Josh no. I never really thought Mrs. Reber would report anything inappropriate. In their religion, nothing males do seems to be viewed as inappropriate. For the males it's do what you want and blame the females for not stopping you. Even though they aren't allowed to tell you no. Quite the set up for allowing/encouraging ab-se.
If I were the judge in this case, the letters from Anna and Michelle, would be glaring declarations that they will continue to not believe anything bad about Josh and will continue to enable him in the future. So sad.
This breeder is making it seem like he does no wrong! Wants her son back but shows no remorse herself, she doesn't say anything towards to victims including her daughters qnd there family she's worried about this entitled little boy, she created the monster. She shouldn't be called a mom
Yes, she is a breeder, this monster abused her own girls and she can write to the judge about her son's qualities, this is a joke. M and JD need to be taken away from their other children, no telling what has gone on in this family. They both need to be investigated, including the wife of this monster.
@@velmajacobs933 yeah she's a breeder she has the baby gives it to her oldest girls to raise and take care of while she joyfully available to her cult leader
Michelle duggar is delusional imagine someone hurting you own children, then hurting other children, then writing a letter asking for him to come home to your grandchildren who by statistics are in danger of being hurt but this person praying for him is one thing but her other actions are disgusting
I think one of the most telling and concerning things in her letter is that she signed her name with a heart... A grown woman. I used to do that when I was in elementary school.
A tender heart! She’s twisted. Makes me wonder what they’re into. Did she listen to the content he was downloading. It’s worse than horrific, horrendous, it’s even worse than evil.
The letters feel very much like a form letter and they both were provided what to say to make Josh look better and unfortunately I know Josh is an awful person and needs this punishment for his choices.
Maybe if Michelle had worried less about making sure her girls dressed modestly, and more about her boys controlling their urges, her son wouldn't be in this mess.
Speaking from experience with someone like Josh, all that stuff, how he acts in front of others, even those closest to him, is all a mask. He shows everyone exactly what they want. He's only the person they want him to be, so he can continue being who he really is, in private.
The older I get the more convinced I am that the mother explains EVERYTHING you see in a grown man. I have my mom to thank for having the most moral, loyal brother who we never question. My partners mother raised a responsible, kind man and I aim to be proud of my little son even 50 years from now.
"Dear Judge, I have really been loving this 'celebrity' life and don't want to have to work, and I love the expensive clothes I can buy and dress up my kids to look like a perfect family, soooo, yeah, I really need Joshua to come home. Ok, yeah, I turn a blind eye to everything he does, but did he REALLY do it? My kids look so cute in our posed family photos, so there is no way Josh would hurt them, & even if he did, I would pretend I didn't see. So, if he can be home by dinner on the 26th of May, that'd be great". Thanks, Anna Duggar.
Her girls have raised their siblings while their parents "took naps" . Josh, helped himself without accountability, and everything was to be hoodwinked. So sick.
Jim Bob and Michelle are messed up. They defend Josh but blame their daughter for what Josh did to them. Their mindset is so messed up and backwards. So if Josh was wise and a good provider then he wouldn’t be headed to jail for a 20 years. I’m glad that Jill and Derek have set strong boundaries regarding Jim Bob and Michelle. Jim Bob and Michelle have taught Josh it’s okay to blame everyone else when you’ve broken the law or someone else is responsible to take accountability. Jim Bob and Michelle are definitely not living by the Bible. The Bible talks about being honest and conducting yourself in an honest manner even when you have to or should take responsibility and accountability. This is sick. The sad part is that Jim Bob and Michelle still have minors at home that are being brainwashed to believe the lies that Jim Bob and Michelle are teaching them.
You have been spot on this whole time! I’ve been watching since before the trial and it’s so wild to see more confirmation of their delusions in black and white. I wonder what the reactions will be after the conviction!
All these great skills Josh has will surely come in Handy: he'll b able to show inmates how to build their own forts using their bunkbeds & blankets, giving a diligent, helping "hand" to soo many! His organizational skills will b such a Blessing to his new Besties.
Yep. Bizarro World. Josh has a tender heart, aside from enjoying young children being tortured and destroyed for his pleasure. Good job, Michelle. 🤦♀️
I just can’t get over how Jim Bob and Michelle act like Jill wearing a nose ring is so much worse than everything Josh did. They shunned her and are doing everything in their power to protect Josh. Just crazy!
Not just crazy it's disgusting and a father plays such a VITAL role in a daughter's life - my heart hurts for all these girls
This infuriates me to no end.
Agreed, they are ridiculous with their parenting.
@@bmcgovern8572 I had the most wonderful dad I could ever have had. I can't relate how Jim Bob parents to the kind of person my Dad was.
I’m not sure… I got the feeling from the court readings that Jill chooses to stay away from her family, especially her dad. I’m not saying JimBob would throw his arms wide open to see her. But I feel Jill’s staying away is largely her choice.
No a kind tender man would NEVER look at that sick stuff. A kind tender man would not do any of the things he did. He is a monster.
Spot on. The letter is so tone deaf and delusional. He did extremely disgusting things and she has blinders on. It makes me angry. She doesn't even want him to be accountable and implies that the judge giving him a long sentence would be unfair.
Where was his kind heart when seeking out extra-marital relations? Where was his tender and compassionate heart when seeking out and downloading those awful images that contained babies and children being abused? These people live in a very scary and dangerous world. Your Honor - PLEASE - MAXIMUM SENTENCE!
Absolutely!
AMEN. THEIR 100 DENIAL IS SCARY
"awful images that contained babies and children being abused"
*tortured
DITTO!!!!
I was kidnapped at knife point, attacked and almost didn't live through it. The slime ball did it to 8 other women before it WAS CAUGHT 😁🤗😅 In court "it's" mom kept yelling out "My son is a good boy"...while listening to 9 women tell the judge how her "good boy" almost ended their lives by strangulation and stabbing 🙄😒🤔 What I learned from this is...when a mother tells a judge that her kid is really a good person, she's REALLY saying "I'm not a bad mom". 😤
I'm afraid I agree with this. The same goes for his wife...
IKR??!!?? Anna's letter didn't say anything pertinent to his case, she basically said that she's not a bad wife, SMH
I am so sorry you went through this. I know you can never get over it but I hope you are ok.
@@tcuplvr thank you, thank you very much, your empathy warms my heart...going to court was so empowering, looking it in the eye whilst telling a judge what it did so cathartic...it went to San Quentin...9 women won 💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃
I am so very sorry that you went through this and then had to suffer hearing it’s mom pleading that it was a good son. I, too, am a survivor of SA by the hands of my sperm donor. In fact, I believe all of my sisters were but I still had family got upset that the sperm donor didn’t give me away at my (first or second wedding) it definitely messes with you forever. So very thankful I have the husband that I do now. But I did plenty to test him. I have a lot of guilt I carry for multiple reasons.
So thankful you’re still here with us 💕
Not a single word about his wrongdoing. Its insane.
Same like Anna's letter.
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Imagine being one of her daughters and reading about how your mother is defending your brother after he did horrific things to you but she can't be bothered to tell your dad that he shouldn't shun you for wearing pants,getting your nose pierced or moving,with your husband,so he can go to school?
Amen...this is sick and infuriating.
Dawn, you are so spot on!!! She is a major type of stupid! I am glad the daughters have supportive hysbands.
I know, it must be devastating. Poor girls.
This is the biggest stab in the back of her OWN daughters who were his victims. If i was her daughter i would NEVER talk to her again.
wow, I had never thought of it that way, you are absolutely right. I wonder if Jill will see and hear about this letter.
It's the ultimate gas lighting towards her daughters. 😭
The whole "Joshua has s tender heart" part makes me violently ill. He's a vile person. Period.
I'm with you Amanda. I feel ill when I think about Josh D and his "tender heart."
I hope the judge realizes that he needs to protect his children for as long as possible because Anna and his family are completely incapable of having any discernment where he is concerned.
That's exactly what I was thinking. He needs to be locked up at least until his children reach adulthood just to protect them because the adults in that family apparently have no regard for the safety of all those kids they insist on having. Really how can you claim to love children soooooooo much and think they're such blessings but yet when a predator is repeatedly victimizing them right under your nose you turn a blind eye. They can GTFO with all their fake love.
It is fake love, their own children are just pawns in their sick game to build their image or brand.
@@Rachel-vh3qs he had a video of an 18 month old baby being SA'ed
@@joanna7350 and also a video of a 3 MONTH OLD being SA’d
@@joanna7350 he needs to be locked up forever. God I wish Arkansas had civil commitment laws!!
Predators do not have "tender hearts". What a disgusting family.
“Tender heart” is part of their typical BS jargon. Anna said the same in her letter. They say that phrase all the time. 😩
Have to agree with you 💯 % .
I saw this, and instantly had second hand embarrassment for this woman. Not only is the letter cringe worthy, but does she have no one in her life that loves her enough to point out that the heart over the i is highly NOOOOO!
The religion really infantilizes the woman. I’m horrified by and for them.
Michelle made the decision to adopt this lifestyle, but Anna and the Duggar daughters were forced into this life. I imagine Anna is terrified to be left alone because she’s been taught that she’s *unable* to care for herself or her children.
Cult talking points from a stepford wife.
First thing I saw too 💚🤢🤮
Didn’t she go to regular school? Can she not sign her name in cursive like most adults her age?🤦🏼♀️ I know the schools don’t teach it now, but they did back then!
Heyyy I used to sign my name like that. In junior high😂
I found myself nodding "yes" to everything you said. If Michelle is a Christian, her attention is in the wrong direction of this situation. How about being a strong force to stop CP?
She would probably say something ridiculous like if they turned their hearts to God that kind of stuff wouldn't happen or God's love would get them through it.
@@crystalsnow1138 yes my mother in law goes to a pencostal church her son (my brother in law) suffered from mental illness & unfortunately killed himself. My mother in law’s response to all of this was if he prayed more this wouldn’t have happened. These people are SICK!!
@@crystalsnow1138 That's exactly what she would say! They are in a cult and can't believe they failed as parents.
"He's wise financially and doesn't good into debt." So Anna should be comfortable over the next 20 years! After all she can always live in a fort to save money.
🤣🤣🤣
If Michelle or Anna admit that Josh has failed, it would mean they have failed. Nobody wants to admit that they have failed.
What a truly bizarre family.
Right, and often times when the men fail they blame the women for not being enough or not supporting the men correctly. I think that is a lot to put on another person. Josh made his choices and the consequences need to be his too.
Failures are common factor of all human beings.....the test of character is if we OWN our mistakes or if we continue to lie and deny. Joshy was taught the later. I wish he was sentenced to be tortured daily
As a mother of a son. I would spend every cent I have to make sure he NEVER saw his children if he did something like this. This is just sick.
Right? Don’t these people have an ounce of love their own grandkids??
I was SA by someone in our church as a child maybe 9 or 10 years old. I repressed it until I was an adult and married. Finally I found out that this respected person had done this to multiple children. We tried to prosecute, unfortunately the statute of limitations was over so we could not send him to prison but we were able to expose him to the church so he could not harm anyone else at our church. I found out of his death last year so I had to come to terms that he never showed remorse his actions.
So this letter makes me ill because my abuser was married and I feel she enabled him.😪😪
😭🙏
I wish you continued healing. Don’t fret about not being able to report. It’s not worth it. The “justice” system doesn’t work. You would’ve just been ignored and humiliated. Speaking from experience and have also seen this happen to others.
It is disgusting to me that there is even a statute of limitations on anything involving children. May your heart and mind find peace.
That being said-this ridiculous parenting team of JB and Michelle is horrible. And Anna is as bad as they are-they are all enablers.
Melissa, so sorry. Some of these predators pick places to work or volunteer like church, schools, boy scouts, etc., to get access to children. :(
God bless.🙏🏻💗
I totally see your point. Michelle is fighting to have her son returned but she doesn't show any effort to have Jill return. What a slap in the face.
Michelle missed her chance to shape her son to be honest, upstanding human being. The upbringing he received created the man he is today. It's too late to change it now.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Agree 100 PERCENT!
Why would it be a positive that she will be there with the family to lead him to be a better man and father? Like you said it didn’t work in the past and it only got worse and worse. Why would anyone believe they can save him?
Also I love how she lists all the things Josh and his kids do together….”learning skills and spending time together” Those are his kids that’s what he is SUPPOSED to DO! Those things aren’t exceptional.
Judge- he builds forts? Well that changes everything!
Lol
Yes exactly! The bar is so low 🤦🏼♀️
Thoughts of Josh doing things with his children would not encourage me to give a shorter sentence if I was the Judge.
Give the full 20 to keep the kids out of Josh's reach for the rest of their childhoods.
Of course mama Anna will spend the 20 years teaching them how great Josh is and how he is the victim of a conspiracy (so he may get to be around his grandkids).
@@cynthiaevery2801 😂
The denial in these letters is offensively immeasurable. The lengths this “family” is willing to go through to not only deny what he has done but cover up and also aid Josh’s crimes is revolting and atrocious. It is because of people like his wife and his parents that egregious crimes against children are able to happen. They should be ashamed of themselves.
TRUTH
My thoughts exactly. I hope they throw the book at him.
TRUTH!!!!!!
Perfectly said
But but but he can fix bicycles! And goes on hikes! He is clearly innocent!
Unbelievable that she would write a letter like this. She is as sick as josh is!!!! So sad that she can’t even acknowledge the terrible things he has done to her own daughters let alone the innocent children in the films. As a child of SA I can tell you it never goes away. I can only pray that his sisters get therapy to understand it was not their fault and that just because someone is family that does not make them a good person. Bad things happen to good people and his sisters were placed in this situation by no fault of their own. They now have to learn how to deal with what happened and the parents and people that did not protect them.
Exactly!
Praying for a healing for you -
This has JB’s name all over it
Katy, did she even once say "I love him." in the letter for the judge?
So true. No remorse at all either, disgusting.
Poor Jill. The way her parents fawn over her abusive, depraved, deeply dishonest brother must be so maddening and painful for her. They shun HER, probably their kindest, most earnest, and truly compassionate child. It's such a shameful betrayal by her parents.
I agree 💯. Honestly if you asked me 10+ years ago which Duggar kid would have been the one to not stay in the cult, it would never have been Jill. Im so happy for her but so disgusted with her family for how they treat her. It sends a message to the younger children to not go against their beliefs, or risk being completely cut off from the family. It's toxic and dangerous
Best thing that could have happened to Jill.
Yes but you think about it she's lucky. Them doing that helps her get away from them. They are showing her who she they are. They're not worth her time.
@@merricat3025 true but that's easier said than done. Even if her family aren't healthy people to be around, they are still the people she loves and who raised her and that can be really hard to lose. That is why what they have done is so disgusting to me. They arent only shunning Jill, they are showing all the younger siblings still living at home that if they dare disobey Jim Bob, they will also be cut from the family and essentially disowned, ensuring the younger children are too fearful to follow in Jill's footsteps
Okay-this letter sounds like a reference letter one would give to a high school student for a character reference! What is happening here?!? It is astonishing how out of touch with reality they are!
So let’s get this straight Josh can do things that are against the law but when it comes to the girls like Jill going against her parents rules is unforgivable 🤪🤷♀️. From Vancouver British Columbia 🇨🇦
Exactly. In their world, Jill getting a nose ring, wearing pants and drinking a little bit of alcohol IS INSANELY worse than what the monster Josh has done.
The Duggars are dangerous, plain and simple.
My thoughts exactly! Wearing pant and having a drink is unthinkable but being molesting your sisters, cheating on your wife, and possessing some of the most sickening pictures and videos of young children being sexually molested is just fine…. Very very disturbing.
Yep because in this cult men are all that and a bag of chips and women are nothing. If the man sins, it's the woman's fault
Right...the boys can do no wrong but they keep punishing the girls for standing up for themselves. That is so awful.
Hypocrisy to the Nth degree !
Strives to be a blessing - by SAing sisters, cheating on wife and dealing in CP. If this is what she considers a blessing I can’t imagine what she considers to be curse.
I guess it’s the cursed nose ring
@@alice_rabbit8345 And wearing pants.
And those darned deviled eggs they had to rename angel eggs!
"My heart is to share some things..." What? This is so terrible on so many levels. It really says so much about Michelle. And it's not anything good. Can you imagine a judge reading "he has a tender heart". 🤦♀️
Makes no sense.
Huge fan of Jill! I had hoped she’d go to medical school after I saw the episode of them learning how to be midwives, but her husband becoming a lawyer and their family learning so much about the law and making the world a better place for children is a great goal as well!
Well, when all of Jill's kids are in school, she can go to college herself to become a certified nurse midwife. The family will be financially stable by that time because of Derick's profession. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland
And if she decides to be a full time “work at home mom” that’s also a valuable career. She can now choose whatever career she wants and it can change over time as the kids get older. Or she can benefit her community with extra volunteer work, maybe supporting what Derrick is going to do to help children. Lots of true choices now!
@@mountaingirl6479 Agreed.
Heartbreaking. Anyone that SA a innocent child should face the death penalty.
Those abused children will never get their innocence back. There is no restitution. Child predators do not change, EVER
agreed. People like that deserve the same punishment as the dog that mauls a child.
Agree 100%
A dead p3do can't re-offend
I said somewhere else, this isn’t a letter asking for leniency, this is IBLP word salad
This lady is a hot mess. The high pitched voice, loving stares at JimBoob, and the heart above her signature....she is stuck in her teens.
Michelle never matured after high school.
jimboob😂i❤it
Yes Mishelle still in her school cheerleader's game for to satisfy her sexually sick husband. Haha. Guess she lost her bigger part of brain during one of her nonstop labors. But she is still in her dreams, when she is picking under skirts of her dauthers- in-law during their labors times. She is still thinking that there she is primer movie actor
@@truffles2721 BINGO!!!
Michelle is brainwashed. JimBob probably told her what to write.
I don't always agree with you KJ, but you are dead on with this assessment of the ridiculous nature of this letter. Well done. Very well done.
Bizarro is right! He's kind and organized and has no debt sooo....let him free?! What kind of madness is this?
These letters prove just how convincing he is. He puts on a show of being an upstanding person while secretly doing vile things behind their backs.
Same like his father
It is so completely offensive how they support and defend Josh and how they shun their upstanding daughter.
According to the letters from Michelle, Anna, etc., Josh was a perfect role model in the community. (in front of people) Therefore he should not have a lengthy jail sentence. 🤷♀️
Behind closed doors he was a monster. Josh was above the law while living under JB’s rules and lies but now Josh has to answer and follow the rules of the court.
It seems like Josh learned denial lessons well from his parents as he grew up...denial and living in a fantasy world made up by his parents mind's while the little children was living reality and crying out for help. Some people live a lie so well they actually believe over time after creating lies that is actually reality...sad
AND that the violation, abuse, and substandard treatment of vulnerable children and girls IS ENCOURAGED with NO ACCOUNTABILITY (it seems; my opinion only)! Judge needs to look into parents and their attitude towards the treatment of children and girls ..... this seems to be the root evil of this family in my opinion.
It's easier to live in denial than to admit that Josh is sick. It would mean that they weren't the best parents; and they can't deal with that.
I really want to know what the judge will say when Josh is sentenced, I hope the judge gives them all a tongue lashing.
There is no way these letters from Michelle & Anna are going to sway the Judge in Josh’s favor. The judge is going to recognize them as two of Josh’s major enablers 🤦🏻♀️.
For sure. He’s going to see right through this.
She wants to act as though he didn't do what is, next to killing those children, THE MOST horrific thing a human can do...she's DERANGED. Not that we didn't know that already.
100% agree
Josh enjoyed some of the most depraved content ever created. No one with a “tender heart” could stomach viewing such horror. Any other reasonable person would feel traumatized from simply hearing the details of some of those films. He found immense pleasure from those images.
That’s a very good point 👍🏼
It took me a month after I heard what the contents of some of those films were. I will never have peace
It's obvious that they didn't let Josh learn from his mistakes when they cover for him all his life.
Michelle and I are the same age, yet the letter with the little heart seems to be written by a 6th grader.
Completely agree. It's also inappropriate to sign a letter to a federal judge the way Michelle did. It also makes Michelle look immature.
Michelle, like Anna is extremely delusional. I don’t understand any of the ones that are STILL supporting Josh. I’m hoping for the 20 years.
100 %
This is a weird letter. I mean WEIRD. If this were my son, I would ask the Judge to judge rightly and help my son get help - but keep him locked up and serve the entirety of his sentence. I wouldn’t brag about his good works when he is guilty of CSAM. That minimizes the gravity of the crime and minimizes the damaging effects of every victim. Insane…
Yes really really weird. The part of building things , and going camping weird. Very Weird
Exactly. This is exactly the sort of letter I would write.
Michelle and JimBob had their time to guide and direct him to become a wonderful man. The assignment was a failure. No, tenderhearted men do NOT enjoy watching babies being tortured. Gag.
Does this deluded woman actually know what this was evil man is charged with? She is talking about building forts and going fishing!! Her son has been watching children and babies being tortured in the most horrific ways, and she talks of fishing! She's absolutely lost the plot!!
The whole family is brainwashed and completely delusional.
Not to mention that she has lost her mind.
Not to be too nit-pickity, but it’s weird she said “hello” after “your honor”. Also, if he was compassionate, he wouldn’t have downloaded DD. Lastly, it’s weird her and Anna saying how great a husband and father he is when he had multiple affairs, and spent all that money on porn stars and his double life.
If Josh had a “tender heart,” and was truly compassionate he would have never sought out torture csam. Also, I think it’s fabulous the people writing these letters of support mention the children frequently. I believe the judge will understand they are at high risk if Josh is freed.
Oh yes, this Judge knows, he knows Anna's kids would be in serious danger.
Personally as a judge I would read this letter and be even more convinced he needs to be in there the longest time needed because he clearly doesn't have anyone to hold him accountable in the outside world
You said what most of us are thinking. He is a monster that should never be let out of prison and the whole family should be investigated. They hide behind religion,
here's the thing... she talked about who he was prior to his arrest and conviction but left out the deplorable parts of his life and character. and then she said she was ready to still love and support him when he is released... LADY! Your love and support has gotten him exactly where he is today; facing 240 months in prison! not saying it's her fault he is like this, but no amount of her love and support has helped him change or transform his life. she and I'm sure Jim Bob will refuse to admit to any wrongdoing by Josh so she can't even give the judge a proper promise to help him change or keep children safe around him. this letter is like saying "hey he wasn't so bad before as long as you ignore any bad things he did, so let him out so he can keep being him"
being him is a disgusting human being.
lock him up and throw away the key
@@Astrophysicistinthemaking absolutely! Just like children who have childhood cancer, or who become ill with some other condition it's not the parents fault. BUT you are exactly right, if a child gets cancer and a parent does nothing to treat it and they get worse or lose their life, that is on the parent. They could have gotten the child help and treatment and done everything they could. Josh is sick, he's been sick since he was a child. He needed treatment and counseling and therapy, the duggar's thoughts and prayers literally did nothing to help him so they are now, in part, responsible for who he is today.
*I will also add that no matter the reason Josh is the way he is its unacceptable. Research does show that the majority of offenders have been victims themselves at one point, again not an excuse for him to be an adult and not seek treatment nor for his parents to have ignored his issues and not gotten him help, but there is a chance this was done to him as a child and that's a really sad thought because if that happened that person may never be brought to justice and the ripple effect they created has hurt so many lives along the way
I can't anymore with these people. Neither Michelle nor Anna seem to care about the victims in this case. There is no mention of the harm done to others or of any of them express remorse for any of this. They are so gross. Just awful.
So sad, no concern for the safety of his own kids by his wife or mom. Nor are they asking for him to be rehabilitated. If they can’t even see he needs that they are incapable of protecting those kids.
I saw this she only printed her name and dotted her I with a heart on a legal document I find this strange as well
It shows the maturity level of her on things that are serious and a legality
I made similar observations on someone else's comment. It's inappropriate for. Michelle to sign a legal document like a grade schooler. I also think it makes Michelle look immature and not taking this matter seriously.
I understand a Mom loving and wanting better for her child, but she has a bad apple in the crowd. He broke the law and violated family members and disgraced the family on top of all of it. She needs intervention about, do the crime, pay the time.
AND DID APPARENTLY NOTHING PROTECTING THE YOUNG CHILDREN AND GIRLS EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW ABOUT HIS CRIMES!!!!! Unbelievable....too bad hey can not be prosecuted for contributed in the delinquency of a child at the EXPENSE of their other children! My opinion only.
Oh how I wish I could write Michelle, where she would actually read it. Josh DOES NOT have a “tender” heart. He has a deceitful heart that is evil just like his dad. If Michelle truly had Josh’s best interests at heart, if she truly loved him, she would be begging the judge to pass down the max sentence. Josh has committed such evil acts not only to his siblings, and wife but to his other victims as well. Michelle should be pleading with Josh to admit his wrong doing, to stop all the lies and blame shifting and to confess to everyone his acts. He needs to pay the maximum sentence, go to counseling, and work at rehab for his sick, twisted mind. Furthermore, Michelle needs to grow a spine and tell JB to just shut up, stop lying to everyone, and stop defending Josh’s actions. I’m so sick of this family (JB, Mich, Anna, and Josh) constantly proclaiming Christ out of one side of their mouth and lying about Josh out of the other side.
Agree. Well said
Agree 100%. And with 20 children and endless grandchildren watching this as an example, how long will it be before another "Josh" is uncovered in the family??
This is why he is they way he is because these people have enabled him all along.
Exactly
My Father was TENDER hearted HE was truly an amazing human and father. He never looked at those things. His life was his family and protected us all especially me being his little girl. When a neighbor assaulted me when I was younger my Father and Brother both dealt with the guy when police said I was too young to testify and would be traumatized. My Dad Was a real Christian. He also got me professional help immediately lasting years
GAG. Not one mention of the crimes he committed, and how the family plans to support him in breaking the habit of touching kids. I hope the judge sees right through this sh…stuff.
And all these "family activities", did his daughters participate in bicycle and car repair, camping, hunting, fishing and sports? Probably not! Exactly what "activities" did he share with his little girls? Yeah, probably something horrific, in my opinion!!
I want to know if anyone has talked to the widows children.
Very good point! I'm sure that Josh's financial help comes with a price. Either the widow pays, the children pay, or all of them pay. The IBLP and like organizations keep women dependent so that they're left helpless when something goes wrong. Then predators like Josh can swoop in. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland
John Wayne Gacy was a good guy in his community also, always there to help others, volunteered, etc.... and was a serial killer on the side. I don't understand why Michelle D, or Anna, think that his good deeds seem to wipe out the horrors of crime - especially since it involved children.
They’re reaching, desperately trying to protect their own secrets, I think. It’s not going to work.
Clearly, she can barely find anything nice to say about him at all. This is the kind of letter I would expect from a mom who wanted her son to stay in jail but is asked to write a letter to the judge. All she can fall back on are the qualities her cult says she must respect and admire in MEN, like "working diligently." Like the ordinary man stuff he does can make up for his perverse crimes.
Good point! That totally makes sense!
I hope this is true!
Michelle knows a lot more than anyone realizes
Michelle always speaks of how children are such a blessing from God. I wish she would have seen the horrific footage from court of these abused little children. As always, I’m left scratching my head in confusion about how they can accept Josh’s sick behavior.
Because it's normal in groups like the IBLP. JB said that when he talked about Josh's crimes against his sisters to other people in his church, they all said that it was common! Groups like these create monsters like Josh. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland
It has been my experience that judges really don't put much weight on letters like these. When the boom comes & we find out the number of years he will serve on sentencing day, it will be a big shock to all of his family & friends.
I hope by shock you mean the good kind of shock (max sentence).
@@pattyo4703 I expect that the number of years (hopefully the max allowable) will be a big shock to those of his supporters who still believe he's innocent. Then we'll probably hear from Michelle & JB, et al, all about how wrong the judge was to sentence him to that many years bc he didn't do anything so bad that was worth that many years. The 5 year sentence (which is the mandatory minimum) his lawyers want is a pipe dream with Josh's history.
You hit on all the fine points as to why Josh is where he is at this time. Parents, religion, brainwashing, misogyny topped off with a layer of sickness that's sexually based. Great job, Katie....
I sure hope the sisters and parents of the children in the material he downloaded write victim impact statements that point out the devastating consequences of his acts against them. 20 years gets his children to adulthood and out of danger of harm to them.
One of the vid child victims mother did, with her daughter's words. It was bad. The child said, don't you know you're not supposed to do stuff like that to little kids, and that it hurts?? Paraphrased.
These are the kind of letters I would expect for someone who has been convicted of something like tax evasion, etc. Not for a crime that involves innocent children. I am shocked. Knowing that both of them want him home ASAP makes me worry for the safety of the kids.
His " tender" heart has broken sacred marriage vows. His "tender" heart has violated and victimized his sisters. His "tender" heart has committed one of the most vile of all crimes. We don't know the magnitude and extent of what else his "tender" heart will do when he is released from prison. How dare Michelle do this to her own grandchildren? She's as sick as he is.
That❤️ to dot the “I” in her name-I just can’t!! I wonder if admitting he is guilty and has done horrible things would be admitting that they failed in some aspects of their parenting. Don’t ever see that happening in Duggarville.
Your commentary after that letter was 100% on point.
IMO Michelle and Anna's letters have probably done more harm than good in terms of their agenda to minimize his sentence. They have perfectly illustrated to the judge why Josh should not be let off with a light sentence. They have demonstrated just how deep the delusion and insanity run in the family. That dynamic does not bode well for for Josh's reform.
Truth well said!!!!!
My husband spends time with our son. We go on walks and outings. He does projects around the house. Goes into his job on his off time to fix things. Normal day to day things. Never has he SA’d small children or watched CSAM on a secret, partitioned computer.
Delusional. This letter is absolutely delusional.
Yep! These cult-like families are very delusional and lost.
Her lack of awareness is scary
It sounds like she's in denial just like her dil. Either that or they can't address the crimes due to a possible appeal. Both are in a rock and a hard place if they did believe his crimes. Support you kid/husband because you feel obligated too, but he deserves the harshest punishment if you believe.
Additionally, Anna saying she wanted him to come back to her and her kids, wow, any judge would think she's nuts a give him the harshest allowed by law. Maybe that's the purpose? Probably not, but one never knows.
Omg these people are freakin nuts no letter of how Josh is good and so on is gonna help .He is a evil man and needs to be locked up.
Right. The man she thinks he is would have shown some remorse for his crimes and those he hurt.
Well said Katie! Thank you!
The heart ❤️ over the I just shows how immature Michelle is.
Hypothetical question: If Josh got 5yrs would he be able to see his kids under Anna's supervision again or as registered S.O will all contact be cut off? If it's 5 or 20 what about the kids??
That's what I keep wondering. No way should Josh D be around any children. Anna is NOT an adequate supervisor. Anna may have let him do who knows what at the Rebers' house. Anna isn't allowed to tell Josh no. I never really thought Mrs. Reber would report anything inappropriate. In their religion, nothing males do seems to be viewed as inappropriate. For the males it's do what you want and blame the females for not stopping you. Even though they aren't allowed to tell you no. Quite the set up for allowing/encouraging ab-se.
If I were the judge in this case, the letters from Anna and Michelle, would be glaring declarations that they will continue to not believe anything bad about Josh and will continue to enable him in the future. So sad.
Oh come on, Katie. Kinda ruined Michelle’s whole letter without reading it in her voice.
I still did, in my head.
Ah, been waiting for this! Keep it up, Katie ~ you're the Best!
Me too! If Anna’s letter was awful, I can only imagine how much worse the monster matriarch’s letter would be 😵💫
This breeder is making it seem like he does no wrong! Wants her son back but shows no remorse herself, she doesn't say anything towards to victims including her daughters qnd there family she's worried about this entitled little boy, she created the monster. She shouldn't be called a mom
Yes, she is a breeder, this monster abused her own girls and she can write to the judge about her son's qualities, this is a joke. M and JD need to be taken away from their other children, no telling what has gone on in this family. They both need to be investigated, including the wife of this monster.
Breeder?
@@velmajacobs933 yeah she's a breeder she has the baby gives it to her oldest girls to raise and take care of while she joyfully available to her cult leader
Michelle duggar is delusional imagine someone hurting you own children, then hurting other children, then writing a letter asking for him to come home to your grandchildren who by statistics are in danger of being hurt but this person praying for him is one thing but her other actions are disgusting
I think one of the most telling and concerning things in her letter is that she signed her name with a heart... A grown woman. I used to do that when I was in elementary school.
A tender heart! She’s twisted. Makes me wonder what they’re into. Did she listen to the content he was downloading. It’s worse than horrific, horrendous, it’s even worse than evil.
Michelle and Anna were most definitely pressured to write these letters. The tone of these letters feels very forced and strained.
They sound very similar in style and tone too
The letters feel very much like a form letter and they both were provided what to say to make Josh look better and unfortunately I know Josh is an awful person and needs this punishment for his choices.
I think Anna and Michelle copied off each other‘s papers.
I agree - they sounded so much alike.
I’ve never read a more toned deaf letter than this. So offensive to the victims.
Maybe if Michelle had worried less about making sure her girls dressed modestly, and more about her boys controlling their urges, her son wouldn't be in this mess.
Speaking from experience with someone like Josh, all that stuff, how he acts in front of others, even those closest to him, is all a mask. He shows everyone exactly what they want. He's only the person they want him to be, so he can continue being who he really is, in private.
Well said Katie! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The older I get the more convinced I am that the mother explains EVERYTHING you see in a grown man. I have my mom to thank for having the most moral, loyal brother who we never question. My partners mother raised a responsible, kind man and I aim to be proud of my little son even 50 years from now.
"Dear Judge,
I have really been loving this 'celebrity' life and don't want to have to work, and I love the expensive clothes I can buy and dress up my kids to look like a perfect family, soooo, yeah, I really need Joshua to come home. Ok, yeah, I turn a blind eye to everything he does, but did he REALLY do it? My kids look so cute in our posed family photos, so there is no way Josh would hurt them, & even if he did, I would pretend I didn't see. So, if he can be home by dinner on the 26th of May, that'd be great".
Thanks, Anna Duggar.
Her girls have raised their siblings while their parents "took naps" . Josh, helped himself without accountability, and everything was to be hoodwinked. So sick.
Very well said Katie, I agree with you 💯%.
Jim Bob and Michelle are messed up. They defend Josh but blame their daughter for what Josh did to them. Their mindset is so messed up and backwards. So if Josh was wise and a good provider then he wouldn’t be headed to jail for a 20 years.
I’m glad that Jill and Derek have set strong boundaries regarding Jim Bob and Michelle.
Jim Bob and Michelle have taught Josh it’s okay to blame everyone else when you’ve broken the law or someone else is responsible to take accountability.
Jim Bob and Michelle are definitely not living by the Bible. The Bible talks about being honest and conducting yourself in an honest manner even when you have to or should take responsibility and accountability. This is sick. The sad part is that Jim Bob and Michelle still have minors at home that are being brainwashed to believe the lies that Jim Bob and Michelle are teaching them.
You have been spot on this whole time! I’ve been watching since before the trial and it’s so wild to see more confirmation of their delusions in black and white. I wonder what the reactions will be after the conviction!
Thank you Katie for the content.
All these great skills Josh has will surely come in Handy: he'll b able to show inmates how to build their own forts using their bunkbeds & blankets, giving a diligent, helping "hand" to soo many! His organizational skills will b such a Blessing to his new Besties.
His "new besties" might not let him survive, if you catch my drift. That's fine with me.
Yep. Bizarro World. Josh has a tender heart, aside from enjoying young children being tortured and destroyed for his pleasure. Good job, Michelle. 🤦♀️
She signed her name with a heart, how old is she...10? Good gawd.