Touhou 17.5: Sunken Fossil World - Joon & Shion Story

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @hjt091
    @hjt091 7 месяцев назад +57

    I remember the collective "holy crap" the fans experienced when Flandre came out of fuckin nowhere

    • @x-nimator9997
      @x-nimator9997 7 месяцев назад +14

      And how in one game flandre broke every old meme and perception everyone had about her.

    • @steveluvscows2490
      @steveluvscows2490 7 месяцев назад +15

      And working as a hitman on Okina's account, no less. Oh, and did I mention she's canonically this game's incident solver? Granted, Okina told her to do it, and you can take a wild guess as to who REALLY caused the incident in the first place, but she still did something not even Reimu or Marisa could.

    • @x-nimator9997
      @x-nimator9997 7 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@steveluvscows2490 reimu was bested by a goshdang vampire gremlin who never gets out

    • @NimonoSolenze
      @NimonoSolenze 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@steveluvscows2490 I mean to be fair, literally no one could stop the incident given Yuuma's ability to just consume everything

  • @Sparkfox-
    @Sparkfox- 7 месяцев назад +14

    7:53 Kutaka nearly gets turned into KFC, Joon’s punches could have roasted her!

    • @steveluvscows2490
      @steveluvscows2490 7 месяцев назад +3

      But I guess the extra heat from Joon's uppercuts was ironically enough just a little TOO much for Okuu...

  • @shtj6761
    @shtj6761 7 месяцев назад +16

    I love the Yorigami sisters and I'm glad they got another appearance. They're hilariously awful people.

    • @sasamisa1806
      @sasamisa1806 7 месяцев назад +1

      Almost as bad as Tenshi, Joon is, but definitely a better prizefighter. (#^_^#)

  • @extremmefan7305
    @extremmefan7305 7 месяцев назад +6

    Flandre coming out of nowhere thanks to Okina is NOT a combo I expected, but it is one I very much welcome. XD

    • @sasamisa1806
      @sasamisa1806 7 месяцев назад

      Now if ZUN could only pull the same trick with Mima, everyone would be happy. (^u^)

    • @extremmefan7305
      @extremmefan7305 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@sasamisa1806 Mima would be more like an Alice or Yuuka situation, honestly. We don't know if she even exists in this canon yet, but it'd definitely be hype to know that she does.

  • @DoctorNovakaine
    @DoctorNovakaine 7 месяцев назад +3

    Interesting that Joon/Shion's story, unlike Kanako's with Reimu/Murasa, sidesteps the 'encounter from the other side' idea. Granted, it would have been weird to have TWO Kanako fights, but from a narrative perceptive, it also offers the implication that Joon and Shion outright lost their matches (which means it wouldn't make sense to have the player characters 'winning' them even in impression), as opposed to Reimu's and Murasa's fights more being "Kanako toys with them until she's bored then lets them move on" (so either side can 'win' because it doesn't matter in the end).

    • @elnino3740
      @elnino3740 7 месяцев назад +1

      Which is kinda wierd since I'm pretty sure they've beaten people yoi could argue are just as strong or stronger than kanako like tenshi

    • @ssjcrafter8842
      @ssjcrafter8842 7 месяцев назад

      @@elnino3740 when they beat those people, they were making full use of the perfect possession incident which they knew practically from the inside out... with the only maybe exception of the dream world residents, which I don't really remember, but I don't think there was anyone THAT strong...

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 7 месяцев назад

    22:10 Many years ago, not long after you left, Touhou fans collectively said *"SHE'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!"* in joy.

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 7 месяцев назад

    17:43 So this is AFTER Kanako fights Yuuma, huh?

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 7 месяцев назад

    22:48 That comment feels a bit meta.

  • @youdonotcare
    @youdonotcare 7 месяцев назад +1

    Did the previous upload have something up with it (other than the (unchanged) outro)

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  7 месяцев назад +10

      Don't know why, but I noticed when I was going through the usual stuff when the upload goes public (adding it to the playlist & changing the end screen for Murasa to connect to this) that the video was... oddly low-res.
      Which was confusing. _surely_ the HD version had processed by now, I uploaded this hours ago...
      Turns out for some reason, Powerdirector had swapped back to original output settings. So I accidentally produced the video at 720p and 30fps...

  • @marcar9marcar972
    @marcar9marcar972 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can one get a blood transfusion from Blood Pool Hell?

  • @neetamoori8690
    @neetamoori8690 7 месяцев назад +14

    I'm surprised they didn't add Nitori in this story, since you'll think that the water being polluted by an oil that results to be worthy would make her either want to negotiate with it or use it for her inventions.

  • @anueutsuho7425
    @anueutsuho7425 7 месяцев назад +26

    20:30 again, Kanako was such a real one in this game.

  • @Sparkfox-
    @Sparkfox- 7 месяцев назад +19

    And so, Joon is using her sister to take hits for her. Literally a bodyguard now, poor Shion 😅
    At least she got to let out a few of her grievances in the end…

  • @WishMakers
    @WishMakers 7 месяцев назад +10

    Easily my favorite character to play. Hands down. These two actually made me go from "this game is kinda frustrating" to "this game feels amazing actually"
    Obviously you found the stupid uppercut but frankly just grazing bullets with Shion's parachute and using it to land just feels perfect??? Like just what this game needed???? I was so tired of fixed momentum dashes that launched me straight into bullets!!! They were awful!!!
    It's almost like if you make a control scheme that doesn't require a PhD in physics to use then the game becomes more fun woah. I mean I already loved Jo'on but this is icing on the cake

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  7 месяцев назад +10

      The control scheme of Joon here basically fixes one of my biggest complaints with this game. Namely being the controls and that there's no proper "jump" button.
      Your only "jumps" are dashes, and your mileage may vary to the usefulness of that when you want to actually "jump"
      But with Joon, moving her just feels like a natural "jump" button. A jump, but with all the benefits of grazing bullets from a dash. Only downside with her really is that the _lack_ of a dash made it tough to close the distance with bosses sometimes (especially since Joon practically has jack for projectiles). Yuugi in particular I was really feeling it, cause her more than any of them, I felt like I was chasing her down more than properly fighting.

    • @trochor
      @trochor 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​ @MegamanOmega184 Shion can be used a projectile if you do 2A or 5A when holding her or C when she's idle beside you.

    • @WishMakers
      @WishMakers 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@MegamanOmega184See, you get it. The real trick to getting around her horizontal issue is just being really aggressive with jump ins and aerial downward moves. Using her up+attack from the ground is nice too, due to the explosion it puts directly at your feet. It does have a set momentum like other dashes, but you can also choose when to commit to it, so you can just play it safe like you did

  • @TheVandive
    @TheVandive 7 месяцев назад +10

    I love these videos, they make the games much more accecible and chill, love the jokes, so lighthearded, and callbacks too
    I'm glad I can re experience these games from your pov

  • @akenohononiku916
    @akenohononiku916 7 месяцев назад +5

    I love playing as the Yorigamis so much
    It's just a shame you didn't use her dive bomb attack more
    That's pretty much her only source of good horizontal momentum
    And tossing Shion
    That actually deals a lot more damage than you might think especially if the target can't flinch
    Anyways, next up we have Flandre and her... interesting style of story progression
    I wonder how you're gonna make that video
    If you're gonna do what I'm thinking, then that's gonna be a long video
    Especially since two of the paths are inconsequential anyways

  • @marcar9marcar972
    @marcar9marcar972 7 месяцев назад +3

    Well, with the price of gas now a days, I can see why everyone wants oil so bad

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 7 месяцев назад +2

    22:33 And that started what will likely be a trend: Sages using Flan as a tactical nuke.
    Can't wait to see the day Kasen sends Flan at a problem.

  • @Iris_Descent
    @Iris_Descent 7 месяцев назад +2

    Man, it feels good to be able to actually control someone without having Classicvania jump physics. Pretty broken double jump too. Of course coming with the downside of having to get close and personal though.
    In earlier versions of the game, Kutaka's fight in this story actually ended after her first spell, but they changed it down the line so you get her full fight in stage 2...
    Also yay, two birds in one story.

  • @sasamisa1806
    @sasamisa1806 7 месяцев назад

    Absolutely the best scenario so far in my opinion, with the unexpected return of Flan-chan aided by Okina of all characters. I do have a question, however: why are the Shion fumos so much more expensive than the Joon ones? I kid you not the latter are at least twice the price, which is the reason my own Joon is still missing her older sister. (*_*)

  • @joerayayala2367
    @joerayayala2367 7 месяцев назад +7

    You accidentally spelled shion wrong.

    • @Sparkfox-
      @Sparkfox- 7 месяцев назад +5

      Harujion, I’m reminded of Shion (Len’en) now, haha!

  • @BlueWokou
    @BlueWokou 7 месяцев назад +1

    Joon and Shion are *extremely* straightforward, which is nice for just trying to beat the game, but also means they have basically no tricks to speed up fights. Their DPS is *garbage* compared to everyone else's, unless there's a bunch of oil on the ground and the boss is also on the ground. I believe they got buffed in 1.13 or 1.14, as the speedrun no longer uses just grounded up attacks all the time, but does a diagonal upwards dash attack thing a lot now, but it's still pretty mediocre compared to everyone else's DPS. They've got the second longest speedrun at 5 minutes 35 seconds IGT on normal, being faster only than the character who fights 8 bosses, one of whom takes 2 and a half minutes by herself. Their fastest 1.04 time was *7 minutes 9 seconds*, being almost 2 full minutes behind the next slowest 1.04 speedrun.
    Really don't have a lot to say here, you just kinda control like a reasonable person would make a character control, punch things, and hope it goes your way. Next time, though, we get to one of the characters I've done speedruns for, myself, though she's more than a bit different than her 1.04 incarnation.
    I guess one interesting thing to note is that against Utsuho, Joon can actually just delete the orb bullets during some of her attacks with uppercuts. I think she's the only character that can actually get rid of them in a way other than letting them go off screen?

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 7 месяцев назад

    11:28 At least she's wearing SOMETHING on her feet, unlike her sister.

  • @RealFirmament
    @RealFirmament 7 месяцев назад

    the idea of Jo'on fighting Yuugi in hand to hand is...laughable. The fact that she's the first stage boss is icing on the cake.

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 7 месяцев назад

    24:07 Here to threaten you for the Chaos Emerald.
    She'll crush you.

  • @strawberrymochi118
    @strawberrymochi118 7 месяцев назад +3

    joon and shion are so fun to watch

  • @gumebe4349
    @gumebe4349 4 месяца назад

    Kanako over here is throwing more Pillars around than Binah

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 7 месяцев назад

    8:13 And then Jo'on tosses oil at the dog laughing at her.

  • @steveluvscows2490
    @steveluvscows2490 7 месяцев назад +4

    Shion's hips tho

  • @frozenwings2148
    @frozenwings2148 7 месяцев назад +1

    i'm guessing 360p being the only option isn't intended?
    edit : i guess that fixed itself

  • @Wizzyhatg
    @Wizzyhatg 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video!

  • @acanine8526
    @acanine8526 7 месяцев назад +1

    sjion HARHARHARHAR,

  • @simplyeyeronic1443
    @simplyeyeronic1443 7 месяцев назад +1

    Joon uppercutting people is pretty silly.
    Sure its a flaming uppercut, but still .

    • @sasamisa1806
      @sasamisa1806 7 месяцев назад

      Heh, she must have studied Ken's technique or something. (^w^)

    • @simplyeyeronic1443
      @simplyeyeronic1443 7 месяцев назад +1

      @sasamisa1806 this made me realize Jonon would fall for NFTs