I like the idea but you have to be held rich to use your wheel loader and a skid steer just to load that into a trailer. I'd take a front loader tractor give me like 5 or more bales and I'd place them in.thats my opinion
When I was growing up on the farm, there was just an old van pulling a flat bed down the field, 2 on trailer stacking, and other 2 or 3 running behind throwing them up, admittedly they were short bales, but you couldn't do that sort of thing with contractor bales.
I think it would be way easier if you just take the Deere and two or three man loading the bales in its cage and then put them with the Deere on the trailer... less expensive and complicated!
***** The accumulators have tons of moving parts, you then need to use a bobcat to load the single layer into ANOTHER machine that'll load it into a truck. All I see is tons of specialized equipment and moving parts that will slow down or stop the production if they malfunction.
***** Insulting someone seems like an interesting way to continue a conversation.To answer your question, no, not a farmer. I am however a mechanical engineer who designs and builds similar equipment for a living and i know a flawed system when I see one.
***** Please be kind. Or I will need to shut the comments down. nilockin The accumulators are actually very simple. They use no hydraulics or electronics and have very few moving parts. The Britton Farm does 40,000 bales in roughly 2 weeks and they use 12 fewer hired hands than they did before using this system. They bale using 3 balers with the Kuhns 1834 accumulator. It sounds incredible but the labor and time savings are huge when you move from hand labor to machine. Edit: tagged nilockin
***** Sorry, I should have tagged him too... (edit: I did) Thanks for taking up for the machine but you can do so kindly even if he is not a farmer. Farmers get bad rap all the time. Farmers feed the world, they don't need to sling mud. I suppose you are a farmer?
Did I manage to insult someone somehow? I'm sorry if i did, but all i wanted to do was to express my thought that the machine could be made more efficiently.
Ya see this just make a long unloading process and you lose money because staff at the place you are selling them will jump in and they will drop the price so i would take them on a flatbed trailer, duuuuh
Very hard and useless systems, multiply points of shifting one bale , you be better off adapting one trailer from field to yard , with out the need to run so much machinery ,
I wouldn't like to be driving that skid steer over rough ground all day. As for the system, the major drawback I can see is unloading the trailer. The bales would have to be manhandled. Handling bales inside a trailer is unpleasant.
It's no problem to be in a skid steer all day instead of picking up bales by hand. I always jump at the chance to be the skid steer operator. We use shipping containers to store hay and they are set on plywood panels on 3/4 inch PVC pipes that make unloading easy.
From reading the description, it sounds like the owner has a feed store contract, and just drops off a full trailer and picks up the empty. feed store employees would be the ones doing the man handling. so its not the farmer/owners concern. Clever system on his part.
@@fakiirification Agreed. Labor on the other end is not the sellers issue PLUS the hay or straw will not be subject to weather as it is totally enclosed. This is typical issue of people NOT reading the description and just run their stupid mouths.
Now that sizzor thing is genius. We used to have to stack by hand in the trailer, some 480 bales
Very nice system. Smoothe safe and versitile. BUT It always works so well with THREE guys directing the operator.
Amazing, cool system
that is some slick.
nice vid. how many tones can the big deere loader lift? 4 or 5?
I like unload from trailor.
Walkin floor :)
Small bales of hay are €1.59 big bale 130 cm is €22
biggest downfall i see is having one genius on each side trying to direct the loader operator using questionable hand signals
how do you get the straw, doesn't seem efficient.
we run around with skidloders and they lift them into those. also on the traler they are in stackes . each stack comes off the baler that way.
I like the idea but you have to be held rich to use your wheel loader and a skid steer just to load that into a trailer. I'd take a front loader tractor give me like 5 or more bales and I'd place them in.thats my opinion
put the thing in neutral
Supposedly to cut down on labour - but there's an awful lot of people stood around 'directing' operations - and just how do you empty the trailers?
Mick Hodgson
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When I was growing up on the farm, there was just an old van pulling a flat bed down the field, 2 on trailer stacking, and other 2 or 3 running behind throwing them up, admittedly they were short bales, but you couldn't do that sort of thing with contractor bales.
Mexicans.
I think it would be way easier if you just take the Deere and two or three man loading the bales in its cage and then put them with the Deere on the trailer... less expensive and complicated!
Pity the poor blokes that have to unload the vans by hand!
Wel it handle hay bales ?
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now how do you unload that fast?
You don't
you reverse really fast and jam the brakes 🤣
Strike a match🤓
@@MrFakit lo
Arcusin autostack is all you need.
Seems like an overly complicated system
***** The accumulators have tons of moving parts, you then need to use a bobcat to load the single layer into ANOTHER machine that'll load it into a truck. All I see is tons of specialized equipment and moving parts that will slow down or stop the production if they malfunction.
***** Insulting someone seems like an interesting way to continue a conversation.To answer your question, no, not a farmer. I am however a mechanical engineer who designs and builds similar equipment for a living and i know a flawed system when I see one.
***** Please be kind. Or I will need to shut the comments down. nilockin The accumulators are actually very simple. They use no hydraulics or electronics and have very few moving parts. The Britton Farm does 40,000 bales in roughly 2 weeks and they use 12 fewer hired hands than they did before using this system. They bale using 3 balers with the Kuhns 1834 accumulator. It sounds incredible but the labor and time savings are huge when you move from hand labor to machine.
Edit: tagged nilockin
***** Sorry, I should have tagged him too... (edit: I did) Thanks for taking up for the machine but you can do so kindly even if he is not a farmer. Farmers get bad rap all the time. Farmers feed the world, they don't need to sling mud. I suppose you are a farmer?
Did I manage to insult someone somehow? I'm sorry if i did, but all i wanted to do was to express my thought that the machine could be made more efficiently.
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Ya see this just make a long unloading process and you lose money because staff at the place you are selling them will jump in and they will drop the price so i would take them on a flatbed trailer, duuuuh
Wet hay is not good for livestock
Very hard and useless systems, multiply points of shifting one bale , you be better off adapting one trailer from field to yard , with out the need to run so much machinery ,
I wouldn't like to be driving that skid steer over rough ground all day. As for the system, the major drawback I can see is unloading the trailer. The bales would have to be manhandled. Handling bales inside a trailer is unpleasant.
SubvenioArguo Walking Floor is the answer
It's no problem to be in a skid steer all day instead of picking up bales by hand. I always jump at the chance to be the skid steer operator. We use shipping containers to store hay and they are set on plywood panels on 3/4 inch PVC pipes that make unloading easy.
From reading the description, it sounds like the owner has a feed store contract, and just drops off a full trailer and picks up the empty. feed store employees would be the ones doing the man handling. so its not the farmer/owners concern. Clever system on his part.
@@fakiirification Agreed. Labor on the other end is not the sellers issue PLUS the hay or straw will not be subject to weather as it is totally enclosed. This is typical issue of people NOT reading the description and just run their stupid mouths.
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Still takes four or five people to load the trailer, and god knows how many thousand pounds worth of machinery...
Us humans have gotten very lazy,
thetwoboyos?? Feel free to do it by hand hero
Not even cool. This is harassment against soil.
Please, go eat a thistle!