Mahabharata and Rule of Law | Apurv Mishra | TEDxRGNUL
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- With the advent of the modern legal system, India has transformed from a dharma-based society to rule-based society. This talk is a collection of interesting stories from the Mahabharata that seeks to explore parallels between the norms of public conduct in ancient India and the constitutional morality of modern India.
Apurv Mishra is a founding member of the multi-national volunteer organisation, Robin Hood Army. He is the editor-in-chief of the India Law Journal and is a visiting faculty at the Young India Fellowship programme of the Ashoka University.
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When I was 15, in 1973, I was at Kennedy Airport, to fly to Switzerand to traveling with my older brother, to study meditation with Maharishi,because my mother wanted me to leave the USA, kicked out of school. A beautiful (American) girl in a sari, put a flower in my lapel, and asked for a donation for the Hare Krishna movement, and, being into TM, I hesistated, but, pulled out my wallet and found a ten dollar bill, and, she took it, and gave me Swami Prabupada's translation of the Mahabarata. I read it on the plane, a couple times, and loaned it to everyone on my floor in the hotel, while we became TM teachers, studied Maharishi's puja, yoga, pranayama, and mantra meditation, but Reading the Mahabarata, and later, the Laghu-yoga Vasisishta changes how you see the world, no matter where you come from. The world is grateful for what the word Dharma means. Somehow, just the sound of that word meant as much to me as anyone has ever explained about right and wrong. Ramayana & Mahabarata changes the human brain...
Foundation is important. Prabhu Pad ji says that Gita was told to his some senior Guru.
Fun fact : All his questions are answered in the Gita. And yes, it's the history of this country, not just an epic!
God bless Mr. B. R. Chopra. He has done something for which he deserves heaven in his next 101 life cycles.
It's just shocking even when we hear our ancient history is being labelled as epic...
Becuse it isn't "history"
It is witful to say Tomato is a fruit but it can't be say wisdom to mix it in fruit juice...
@@kanishkanegi5594 IT IS HISTORY. Dwarka Nagri has been found under water. Kindly read up a bit instead if living in denial.
very true.
@@laddoothesweet6381 it's not history and it is history both. there are many misinformation and pollution added in mahabharata by many people in past we don't know how much of it is right
fascinating. greetings from Portugal
I appreciate ur opinion
This is why I love the Mahabharat so much. For me, it's all about the back-story. Each person is connected by a cosmic, karmic thread and it all plays out so intricately.
Again, I love the Mahabharat and being that today is TRITIYA AKSHAYA, it's also the day when Srila Vyasadev and Ganeshji undertook the Herculean task of compiling the Vedas.
Hare KRsna prabhuji
bhakta peter pranams to you my lord. HariiiBoL!
every main character is connected with a previous birth save duryadhan
I don't really believe in the existence of a god.. But there are scientific facts about those events which happened in the Mahabharat that I would like to know or came to know..
@Adwait Thattey thanks for your comment. I'm gonna watch this video again.
What an awesome insight about Humans. We all are flawed beings trying to create a meaningful lives in an imperfect World. Great.. Pranams to Shri. Apurv Mishra Ji. Thanks..
This is what my soul craves. Delivery was incredible. Atm i am on my spiritual journey. 100%Mayan blood running through my body and no clue story of my ancestors. Left catholic religion 10 years ago. Gt to the point where I never truly gt full on the fairy tales. Exploring different beliefs. I believe in God completely just have something telling me there is more soul food I just have to look. Ty
@@KS-op9bb life transforming things after reading all these u will have a mind of sage
gandhari was chosen by bhishma because she had a boon to have many children. The king of gandhara subala was only very pleased to offer his daughter to the Prince of Hastinapuram. Also Gandhari was never a widow (as per the Vyasa Bharatha). This was just a local story which became very popular. Sakuni was a person who did things that pleased Duryodhana. Just the way karna saw to that Duryodhana's hatred towards the Pandavas kept increasing by the day. Yet at times it was Sakuni who gave more sane advice to Duryodhana though the late would not listen. Personally i feel that Karna did more damage to Duryodhana than Sakuni.
The terminology "sleeping with" is incorrect - those Rishis' did not have to " sleep with" someone to beget children. It was more of an " ichha" shakti - unfathomable to modern science. We are about a million miles away to this even in IVF or assisted parenting.
That was one gem of a speech, Mr. Apurv Mishra....Take my bow.....
Just awesome...😍😍 I have same set of queries but still we all r trying to create meaningful life in an imperfect world😊
enjoyed this perspective.. thank you!
Mahabharata will never tell wht is right or wrong ...it will tell wht the great ppl do or wht was there action .......choice is your.
True. Even after Krishna told the great insights of Bhagavad Gita, He never ordered Arjuna. Rather he only gave the choice
Gopinath T
krishna told Arjun....Maan mana Bhava.....means I have given you d knowledge... Now you act according to your own free will power.
Mangala Aswal True.☺
so right.
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Shakuni cannot be blamed entirely after what had happened to his family, only survivor to revenge for his dad n brothers
Bro.. Sory to say all the story u r telling is not the in Mahabharata if vyasa....I don't know from whr this story comes in....
Very good interpretation. Thank you. Reading gita was the best thing that happened to me in my life. I wish I read it few years back and my life would be able to deal with problems in better way! But again I was destined to get enlightened now with gita but I always wish n pray to God that he never let's me be obliterated henceforth !
It's not Gita but Mahabharat.
Gita is preaching but Mahabharat is Itihas.
Bhisma the great follower of Dharma didn't kidnapped Amba,Ambika & Ambalika....He won them fairly in contest.....He knows kidnapping is not dharma.....
Don't give a wrong word ....
Yes you are correct.Everyone should read original Mahabharata by Maharshi Vyasa and its translated version before
commenting .It is Panchama veda.
In original version of Mahabharat, forcefully kidnapping a pricess to marry was considered the most glorious marriage. Bhagavan Krishna married Rukmini that way. He even adviced Arjuna to kidnap his own sister Subhadra.
Nice reflection upon the Great Epic. Adds new dimensions to our understanding of the story.
Never heard of this shakuni's story. Especially not in BR Chopra's
Mahabharata is not myth it is historical accounts of events that happened on this earth planet and on higher realms as well written and compiled by VedaVyasa over 5,000 years ago
very well explained- god bless
super... wish few more in this world had your level of understanding and perception
Absolutely true❤
it was asked in Mahabharta what is Dharma?
The yudhisthtra replied Dharma is very Sushma meaning very complex and changes with time and circumstances. So generally what wise, mor and truthful ppl do in those circumstances is considered Dharma.
Amalgamation of Devdutt Pattnaik and jurisprudence :)
The story behind Shakuni’s anger due to the imprisonment of his family, Gandhari being ‘Manglik’ is not found in the original Sanskrit version of the Mahabharata and hence it is not correct.
I understand it is not there. But i suspect it must be true. Probably it was removed later. Cuz it kind of makes sense.
@@sidharthvarma8773 The evolution of the Mahabharata and Sanskrit texts do not generally work with deletions. They are largely interpolations and additions to the text across thousands of years. This story of being Manglik is not found in any of the Sanskrit recensions (Northern and Southern). It is very likely that the tale is of a regional folk origin at a much later date, to add Masala to the original Mahabharata. Textually, we cannot trace any truth to this story in any Sanskrit version. Therefore, the story is a mere fancy of folklore, which has gained popularity.
@@dnayi20 i agree with u.
Did Mahabharata actually take place? According to Professor Alf Hiltebeitel, the Mahabharata is essentially mythological. Indian historian Upinder Singh has written that: Whether a bitter war between the Pandavas and the Kauravas ever happened cannot be proved or disproved.
the stories told were quite common and had other variations as well, but the questions that were placed were really to the point and application to real life very well.
I heard about the story on shakuni as presented here may be 50 years back. I also vividly remember seeing a B&W Hindi movie in my childhood , showing all Shakuni:s brothers and his father starving to death in a prison cell while shakuni serviving with the little morsel of food supplied for all the brothers and his father. However I cannot tell now whether that movie was based on Ved Vyas Mahabharata or any folklore. But in Raja Gopalacharjee's written Mahabharata , which I read most , there is no reference of such incidents. No such episode found included in any of the TV serials of BP Chopra or Ramanand Sugar. The presenter of this vedio should give proper references on the topic.
Its good to know that even Hikaru Nakamura is interested in Indian mythology 😂😅
Loved the way you described it.
I really liked your talk. Thank you.
one of the finest talks on mahabharat.
Really we are living in kalyug where one of the greatest personality like bhishma (devrath) is shown in a negative manner and shakuni is shown positive
Atleast don't try to make any changes in an epic
Bhishma is not shown in a negative way , he had followed his dharma as king, however it was Dhristrastra who actually caused what it was for Shakuni.
It is clear that author has not read sankrit mahabharat and saying anything on name of Mahabharata.
I love your questioning... Good job
Beautiful. I too have many questions as you Apurv regarding Mahabharat, Gita, and Ramchritramanas. I also know I have do not have the strong foundations of spiritual understanding and reasoning to come to a concrete conclusions of my own (but the search goes on). I am very grateful to you for for bringing forward such great and profound thoughts. I would love to hear/listen/ discuss more about these subjects with you.
Om Tat Sat
Namaste @ApurvaMishra: firstly, please know that Mahabharta is our HISTORY. As to the questions you have, these are all clarified in The Bhagavad Gita itself and in other sources. You just need to go in depth and read The Gita. Freewill that we exercise creates our own destiny. Freewill can be used to improve on one's gunas (sat, rajas, tamas). Let me try to briefly explain here below. I highly encourage you and all others to read The Bhagavad Gita as many times as necessary and until you have understood it well.
-- Dharma is as one understands it to be for oneself. Shakuni had the freewill to not use his sister's sons/his own nephews for the sake of revenge.
He misguided his nephews and basically sacrificed them all, made his own sister son-less in order to take revenge from Bheeshma for his own family.
His sister is also his own blood relative, though. How would the revenge help him?
--Ved vyas was fulfilling his promise towards his mother to help her in time of need.
Bheeshma on the other hand refused to impregnate Amba and Ambalika because of his vow of celibacy. Remember also that he had also promised Satyavati's father
that he would never have a son of his own, so that Satyavati's own line of inheritance could continue.
Hence it was much eaiser for Ved Vyaas ji to fulfil his mother's wishes.
--As to Duryohana compulsively doing wrong and saying it is in his nature, please read about the three gunas and samskaaras. That clarifies it.
--As to Bheesma pitama being cursed to be born on earth by Vashishta, please read as to WHY he was cursed. In short, due to his own past karma (as Vasu) of stealing
a cow with certain powers. When Rishi Vashishta noticed that, he cursed the vasus. So it is not destiny per se, but what the vasus themselves made (through own karma). Same applies to us humans. Hare Krishna
I like the comment "it is a story of flawed beings trying to make meaningful life in imperfect world."
What are the versions of Mahabharata that are referenced here? I would luv to read them. Please provide exact name, author, and publishers of the books.
May I know which chapter explains this
With so little knowledge of mine on mahabharatam, I feel he has narrated a lot of wrong stories. But I fee message is valid.
As other commentators had mentioned, the gyan to Duryodhana by Krishna is not mentioned anywhere.
So many things he stated as facts are not stated in the Mahabharata or are wrongly interpreted.
Sir, I'm watching this video after 3 years so I don't know you've already got your answers or not or this will be useful or not.
But Krishna also says every being has his own free will to choose from good and bad what's best for it, with saying that everything that we do is what he wants us to do.
So answer of your questions are in geeta itself if you try to analyse it properly, the god is the creator of everything dark & light, good & bad so he just puts something into your ears or mind either a good idea or a bad idea it depends on your free will you choose to bad one and enjoy doing that more because it just has a bad end or choose the good one even if there's alot of pain in it. In the end you've did what he wanted you to do because he gave you the idea.
So he went to Duryodhana to make him understand but Duryodhana refused to understand & helped Krishna for Dharma Sthapana being bad itself.
And Bhisma's decision was based on his character rest maybe you understand by reading what I've written up 👆
They are not called indic religions silly, they are called dharmic religions (Abrahamic religions and Dharmic religions. Judaism, Christianity and Islam believe in abraham as their ancestor). They are Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism and sikkism all of which believe in Atman and karma and of course moksha.
Very good , thanks for your opening remarks . Keep it up .
Such morons mixing facts with fiction, no wonder they are so confused. Gandhari was a great devotee of Lord Shiva and had already secured a boon for having 100 children. Bhishma knew this and hence the marriage proposal was sent to Gandhar which was willing accepted. The moment Gandhari knew that she is going to marry a blind prince, she willingly tied a cloth around her eyes; such was her devotion to her future husband. You don't make sacrifices like that if you are forcefully married against your wish. It is true that Sathyawati requested both Bhishma and Vyasa to carry the lineage forward but Bhishma had already taken an oath of celibacy while Vyasa was under no such obligation hence was willing to oblige. Arjuna's refusal to accept Urvashi was a great sign of his character and sense control. He is ready and willing to undergo the curse of loss of manhood for a period of one year instead of compromising on his morals. He even refused to marry Utara, the daughter of King Virata of Matsyadesh where Pandava spent their one year in Agyaat Vaas (Incognito). Instead he says that he has always looked at Utara as his daughter and his son Abhimanyu would be a more suitable alliance. Please don't distort facts as Mahabharata is rated as Pancham Veda, the fifth Veda where the intricacies of Dharma including many moral dilemma are so beautifully illustrated.
This is sooooooooooooooooo well done.
Thank you, Guruji. Thanks from bottom of my heart.
Loved the talk! Very thoughtful indeed..
Nicely interpreted. Thank you.
Nice flow.....you've got it pretty much right......
This seems to be not from original Mahabharat. There are many versions of Mahabharat and there are lot of false additions in it. Will you kindly state on which Mahabharat you have based your lecture?
You are absolutely right. Your point is already cleared in initial episodes. I have based my speeches on 7 volumes published by Sastu Sahitya Bhandar, Ahmedabad. There are number of versions of Mahabharat, different for North India , south and other countries too. There are evident subsequent additions as it happens in other popular books. However I have felt that there is great depth of aadhyatma which is not apparent on the surface of it. I do feel that experts should make or reconstruct a standard Mahabharat and nobody should ever be allowed to make any additions and alterations in it. We Hindus are generous and tolerate such things which in long run vitiate our valuable treasures. This can not be imagined in case of Islamic religious books. Thanks.
Hats off!!!
Glad I didn't skip this🤦😂♥️
Loved this a lot
At 9:53, when does Krishna offers knowledge of Gita to Duryodhana?
As far as I know He just shows his Vishwarupa form and ensure that everyone in the court knows that they are against the God if they side with Duryodhana.
Where in the Mahabharata does Krishna asks Dhuryodhana for a priviate talk to give him the knowledge of Gita. I do not disagree with the part wherein Duryodhana replies that his nature or prakriti is such that it does not allow him to do the right thing but nowhere does Krishna offers him Gita unlike what He says to Arjun.
If anyone can kindly comment on the accuracy of the speaker in this regard and point me to the source that verifies the speakers claim, precisely the point in Mahabharat that speaker is referring to.
luv to watch
Guys this shakuni backstory is wrong!!!!…… but everything he said before that story is crct
love this
great talk. kudos.
Thinking about something that never happened
Loved it.
Wonderful explanation 😊👍
The video is so good but captions are laughable
Awesome talk
Multiple inaccurate statements : 1. sakuni story is not from reliable source 2. Listening to elders is not greatest dharma, infact you need to counter elders when they are saying/doing adharma (wrong). Ram did not listen to his father when Dasardh told Ram to imprison him and rule Ayodhya. Vibeeshan did not listen to Ravaan. Lakshman blocked Ram from shooting bhramastra in kiskindha kanda.
vamsi alla true. Very true
Watch it again you'll get your answers!
I guess he's another leftist from jnu
A nice one....why do we need counselling...on our emotional and day to day problems...we are blessed with Our sacred scriptures if we honestly read and delve in .... and there is no single problem in our life that would be unsolved...
Dharma varies from age to age & even place to place. While Parashar muni’s aberration led to Ved Vyas’s birth (cf. Gita: Krishna says brahma is the mahad yoni in which he (who is Amruta) impregnates the seed). Yet, if Bhishma had just reasoned with his father, the impropriety of his desire & stopped him, whole Mahabharata would not have occurred. In M. B.., it is a chain of false loyalties to father, throne, mother’s word to share, must accept challenge to gamble, etc.that is the root of the magnifying enormity of inequity. The Pandavas had their anchor in Krishna right and sailed through.
1. Whats the source of this story?
2. It is pronounced epi-ta-mee not epi-toam.
It Is Possible ramayan
you should read original mahabhart ,.......actually it is " jaisanhita" in Sanskrit having only 10000 " shlok" in Sanskrit .....not what available everywhere with more than 1110000 shlok....
The Mahabharata describes a Previous Civilization that lived 25,000 years ago, They were more highly developed than our civilization now. To learn much more about the cycle of civilizationst, read the e-book: "what I know about Nibiru". Just search for: know nibiru
I had an illegitimate child with sage Poarashor
Mind blowing
Great analysis...and explanation...
I mean sekuni story is wrong...Arjuna story is ok....
Amazing
Fantastic
Great.
Wow! How can people go to TEDx Talks with so much of ignorance on the Great Epics like Mahabharatha?
It was osm,
Hai, can you suggest me the right Mahabharat book to read ?
Kisari Mohan Ganguli; C Rajgopalachari
fantastic.. keep it up..
Awesome
You should read Mahabharata first. The history you are telling here about Shakuni is completely false.
what is the source of ur story??In tv serials , movies these facts are not shown yet.
mahabharat = 1 lakh+ slokas dont expect tv series or movies to show it all
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANS SHAKUNI.......(lol, i am just joking this is a very strange interpretation )
धर्मा?? धर्म*
I m younger then you mate .. sorry to say .. you need more investigation..
Gandhari was the daughter of subaal....not sister...
I know this may seem mean and inconsiderate but I'm genuinely unable to understand the speaker. Is there a way through technology that his speech could be slowed down?
Best bro.
Stop saying Mahabharata as mythology!!
Its a mythology....grow up
kailash neupane it's mythology bro
kailash neupane grow up dude
Mahabharat is a myth
Nagarjun Chevula history becomes legend and legends become myths in time.
May i know his name
Wow 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝
so obviously metaphoric tales not to be taken literally or be judgmental about them.
Apurva has read mahabharat ,
rare to find who has read mahabharat
What is the souce of your history?
vedas, upanishadss, geeta, ramayan, mahabharat, purnas
Perfect example for childhood indoctrination.
Shakuni's story is bull carp. This is from some folklore, not from Ved Vyasa's Mahabharata.
Vijay Kondepudi l,loll,ol
Shakuni’s story is completely wrong