Finding the Winning Edge by Bill Walsh Book Review
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Hey could you do a play analysis of some old school football? Like 80s 49ers? I have always wondered how the game actually evolved over time
Would love to. Hard to get film.
I was looking at early cut ups of zone plays from the 1980s (Cleveland Browns) but they are cut ups, not a game. I got a lot of great stuff from Bill Williams in Poway, CA and his coaching association. J.T might know the Williams - they have a lot of NFL film going back decades.
I tried to find just a regular physical copy of the book but all of them are like $400.
I was on the hunt for this book for literally a decade until my wife found it on FB Marketplace this morning 3 hours away. You bet your ass I drove up to get it. Finally have it in my hands!
Great review. As a 49ers fan, it was great to finally see actual pages of this. I hope one day the book is reprinted or released digitally. It's very easy to see why Bill got burnt out. That page with just the install of offense looks like a nightmare. As fans what we see on television is just a small chunk of all of the hours, and hours that the coaches and players put into the classroom. I feel like that is the real "game". And even after all that preparation, things still might not work out for you on Sundays. Also with little long-term job security, it's remarkable folks don't go mad. Maybe Bill was wise to get out after winning Super Bowl 23, especially with the front office putting the clamps on him. Anyway, thanks for doing this one.
There’s a pdf of it I found somewhere if you still haven’t got access to it I can send it to ya
@@dnadefootball Really? Would appreciate that mate!
@@astrostar49 I got you what’s your email man it’s on Google drive so it won’t be like any random link just so you know I’m not doing anything scummy
@@dnadefootball I'll PM you if that's ok.
@@astrostar49 yeah if you can figure out a way to
The football Bible. That's what Brian Billick referred to it as I saw on a documentary about him I remember. It's not cheap either. I wanted to get a copy.
This book is like cake frosting. A little bit at a time is great but to much and you might get sick and throw it all back up
Coach Walsh's book, plus Coach Raymond's Delaware Wing-T book, are two of the most detailed publishings that a coach could possess!! Great review!!
Bill Walsh means a lot of things to a lot of people. For many of us who got into football after he passed, this sort of insight (not to mention the rest of the West Coast videos you produce) is just special. Thank you for your channel and all that you do.
very interesting. Definitely clicked because this was content beyond film breakdown (Which I obviously love too). Thanks for switching it up. I hope this video performs well so that you continue to produce different things like this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I read the book several years ago. Here is what I remember: Extreme detail. Interesting how he changed culture, starting with dress code. He chose athletes for his concepts.
Went to buy the book on Amazon.. cheapest one is $1,000. Holy shit
4:30 - finally dives into the book after saying we're gonna dive into the book for over four minutes.
You're the man. Great review. Thank you.
I appreciate that!
@@TheQBSchool I agree with David - great review. My wife bought me a pristine autographed copy of the book for my birthday shortly before Bill passed away. It is an incredible piece of work.
I have this book in my library and I also need to go back to it. As the years have passed, I have moved more and more to the Mike Leach approach of having your core offense adapt to the scenarios you see. Be as simple as humanly possible. “There is a simplicity on the far side of complexity,” (one of my favorite sayings) - I think that is an important goal in this game of intense complexity. I think Leach is not the anti-Walshe, he shares a lot of core principles, but he wants to minimize what is going on in his players minds, so they can play fast. Having said that, discussing that approach and how Kingsbury is trying to achieve something similar on the NFL level is an interesting topic. Btw, I have a football you signed for me back in NFL Europe. Thanks J.T.
Is there a book out that you suggest from Coach Mike Leach?
Brady wasn’t mobile enough. But who knew?
Comment section here makes me think the price is coming down and I'd better sell mine.
Why can’t they get this thing on Audible or Kindle
Couldn't agree more. I've been fortunate to access this book last year and it's awesome. As coach O'Sullivan said, it's a dense lecture and every paragraph is meanfull and impactful. Really worth the hunt for it. All respect for my man Bill Walsh
I know an audio cassette of this exists somewhere. I need to find it.
I agree that there was a level of burnout, but you also didn't mention the other stresses that he had as well. In every video on the topic I have seen, Carmen Policy and others said that Eddie D. would "fire" Walsh one day, only to reverse his decision the next, or later that same day. Having a boss like that which didn't have the same level of faith in you that, say Robert Kraft has shown Belichick, has got to take years off of you as well.
Kep in mind that going into the 1988 season, Walsh was the guy who:
*NFL legend and former boss Paul Brown tried to black list and sabotaged many potential landing spots
*Won "only" two super bowls while suffering crushing losses to the Redskins in the NFC title game in 83, then getting bounced out of the playoffs in their first games three years in a row (85, 86, and 87) despite even being the #1 seed in 87.
You have to understand that finally making it to the top for that third time was reason enough to sail into the sunset... only to then realize in retrospect that the team he had worked so hard to build was on the verge of a three-peat and remained competitive for a decade after his retirement, making the NFC title game in 92, 93, and 97 in addition to the 94 win.
Bill Walsh still had a lot of coaching left in him, but I would have to think Eddie D. wore the man out as much a the scheduling did.
Yeah and we kind of saw the same with Harbaugh where after 5 years the relationship was so toxic. he had to leave even though he made a Superbowl.
I also love reading about players who hate their coaches so much they retire. I think Joe Thomas said he almost did when Mangini was the coach of the Browns. It's crazy how bad leadership can ruin an organization, but the NFL is kind of like a failsafe where no matter how bad you are at your job the owner will ALWAYS make money where in other industries they just go bankrupt.
Yes. I was thinking of this as well. If Eddie D didn't bring the heat on Walsh so much, Walsh probably would have stayed longer. But he probably made the right call to retire a champion. Especially after that rough 1988 season where it really looked dark at times, along with being stripped of his presidency. Eddie should have backed off. As if Walsh didn't already have enough shit to deal with.
Got a signed first edition in a safe deposit box
Good review man, would like to see more of this on the channel🙏
Thanks! Will do!
Great review and great videos, keep up the terrific work. Your so talented at explaining complex football concepts in a clear and concise manner. Keep up the great work and all the best in your future endeavours. 👌🏽
Glad you like them!
The John Taylor play was also in "Building a Champion".
As always great job, maybe you should go over like top offense's throughout the years. From the 49ers West coast to like the greatest show on turf as a QB?
Would love to. Hard to get old film.
Very hard book to get
quick question, whats your mindset when going into fall camp for college? Should you worry about being the best or just doing your best
Depends on player/situation/team/level/etc. Just be the best you.
Really interesting video, especially the balance between putting in the hours and burning out as I'm coming from an industry that is notorious for both (video game development). Also appreciated the observations on the use of military quotes. Maybe our idea of what good leadership looks like is evolving.
Thanks. Agreed on the leadership evolution.
JT I appreciate these book reviews! I definitely think this spices things up for this channel! You should definitely do some more book review videos! Thanks, best wishes!
Great review, JT. Bill Walsh was That Dude, and I appreciate the intelligent perspective on what is pretty much recognized as The Bible of professional football.
JT, I have a PDF copy of this book if you're interested in that.
can you send me that please? I'm a junior QB from France so its impossible to find this book here
@@marcoa.madrigal6770 Send me an email and I'll forward you a copy.
@@jacobniekamp4926 my email is tomcmadrigal@gmail.com , Thanks a lot man!
Would you be willing to send me a copy of that PDF? I live overseas, and it's just not realistic for me to get the book :(
Hey whats your email?
Loved this book. Once had a former coach steal my football library which included this book. Left my computers, iPad, but went through all the coaches offices and took every football book and coaching dvd.
Dirty
Wow, I hate a thief!!
Recently discovered your site and love it! Question about "putting in plays" in training camp. Are typically most of them repeats from prior years so the learning curve isn't so bad and (at least on the first day) is everyone standing there with their playbook before running the play? Thanks!
This is the only book I want to own n I can't find it anywhere n online is 500 n over.... smh
JT!! What an awesome video. I know you have a PHD in leadership studies... would love to hear more about that! Maybe a book review of a resource you read during that, or a breakdown of what your learned!
Great insight on the book. I have always marveled on how can one possibly coach football!
Writing this before even watching the video, what a legendary book. Hard to find and expensive once you do. One day I hope to be able to get my hands on a copy. And yes I know there are PDFs available but its just not the same as a real book.
I think Montana saw John Candy at the beginning of the drive, not before the play.
You are the man for even having a copy of this book. Can you do a video on goalline offense?
So annoying can’t find a reprint of pdf anywhere
Annoying like stealing.
@@TheQBSchool call it what ya want. There use to be a pdf file somewhere on the internet. Be nice to find a reprint
This book is so expensive...but probably so worth it
I think a lot of the overthinking that Walsh would sometimes do comes down to the high amount of anxiety he dealt with. As someone who has suffered from Generalized Anxiety Disorder all my life I feel pretty confident he would have been diagnosed with that today and those issues were not handled very well back then and there was also a stigma against mental health issues back then, especially in sports.
Yeah...I’m not that kinda Dr.
Love the book reviews! Thanks JT.
Killer video JT
Thanks, Michael.
@@TheQBSchool downloaded the book and have already read through the QB section. Very little has changed with the training, which is crazy.
You are a natural teacher and coach. Your channel is truly unique. This was very interesting. I am sure elements of it will show up in future segments, and that will be sufficient for my needs. My involvement is primarily that of a fan of many years, trying to understand what it is I see on Sundays.
Wow, thank you! Glad you dig it.
The Winning edge by Walsh ( co-author Brain Billick)
$550 for used books ---- $1,000 for new book
So, why don't they reprint the book if there is that much demand?
Great review.
Tom Brady was at a Bill Walsh 49ers workout before the 2000 draft and Walsh saw nothing.......BUT, they were looking for a mobile QB to backup Young, so they drafted a goat farmer instead of the GOAT.
You can download pdf version from scribd with a free 30 day trial
@@sm112103 great site --- Thanks
Now I have to buy the book :)
I found a pdf version of this book! Great review video, J.T.
Could you comment the link please? I've been dying to get this book
Hey can you email me the pdf justchuck03@gmail.com
Thats a hard book to find
That's what it looks like.
You can download the pdf version from scribd with a 30 day free trial.