Yes Pastor Taiwo was an amazing Dad. The mutual respect between him and PJ was very clear and heartwarming to see…watched a live show with them. It’s available on RUclips.
I am only a couple of years younger than PJ’s mum…yet I am being blessed by his sermons. And his wife’s too. There is no doubt that this young man is anointed. I will definitely be visiting TFOLC. PJ may your ministry be richly blessed. 🙏🏾
@@toyinolayinka8975 I have been blessed by PJ’s wife’s teachings too. She is Pastor Kemi. Check her out. I actually heard her preach before I heard his sisters. They can all preach. 😊🙏🏾
@@jumyadeyinka1858With pierced ears and so on?I am only seeing the works of the flesh on him and he never become born again bcos if he do he will throw those things away.
The speaker who said she knows Jimmy spoke on point.I do not know Jimmy while watching the speech she made after the announcement. I think he has his mum’s kind of anointing he will definitely succeed in Jesus name amen
Congratulations to Pastor Jimmy. He can do it. It was his father’s business empire, lol. abeg he should inherit it. Who else will be committed to a man’s vision more than his immediate family if they’re competent? Nigerians should go and develop sense abeg
Thank you Ladies for the conversation. Service without Gods acknowledgement and approval is a waste of time and energy. I don't mind Pastor Jimmy's Look as long as God approves of him we all can rest. It is also a great thing that our children can take over the flock with which God as put us over, however if the child is not in a perfect relationship with God it is not advisable. God bless us all. Jesus is Lord
It's biblical, it's from generation to generation as long as they are well mentored, Nuclear family suffers the most when their parents are pastors they deserve every bit of it
I'm an elderly person and a member of TFOLC. I thank God that Pastor Jay stepped into the shoes of his father; not just myself, many of the elderly members are pleased to have him as the Senior Pastor. Finally, let me say here clearly, the content matters more than the container in this case. Fountainers are really enjoying the move of God in a new dimension and we are being blessed by Pastor Jay:s ministration. Pastor Jay is a God-fearing and Spirit-filled man, no doubt about that.
Hopefully, Actually God qualifies. Nobody really qualifies. Its mostly about availability and total(non calculative) surrender. ( which is not for children)
You guys are great . Everyday, watching your broadcast , I keep falling in love with your intelligent and insightful manners of analysing matters and issues objectively . Receive good reward for a good deed
People are always quick to say abroad, please can someone count the number of General Overseers abroad that Plait long hair, and let's see if they can count 10. When Pastor Jimmy started growing his dreads, he was not the General Overseer of a big church in Nigeria, he was just a Pastor's son and an actor who happened to be ordained in the church and that would actually work at that point. Even in board rooms and politics, how well will a Nigerian politician be taken seriously with long dreadlocks? I really hope the Fathers of Faith can really guide Pastor Jimmy from their wealth of experience and not allow the decade of great work done by the parents to be rubbished because of frivolous things like plaiting hair, having tattoos, and keeping beards. Really, the work of a G.O. is about setting examples and standards for society, the problem is that there should always be a difference between a church and a club, but now girls dress to church almost fully naked, and very soon Pastors in Nigeria will now be competing who has the best-looking dreadlocks and younger generation are watching and they will just take it to the next level.
No, when he started growing his dread he wasn't just a pastor's son and an actor who happened to be ordained. He had been a pastor before he started acting, and with his acting career he founded The Cave Church and pastored it with his dread. He didn't happened to be ordained, he was called, his journey in the ministry started abroad in other churches that aren't his father's, in fact, he first got his licence as a minister of the Gospel in Oklahoma in 2009 before he got ordained in Nigeria. There's nothing wrong with his dread and you guys don't know the deal between him and his God. There was a time when Apostle Paul too left his hair as a vow to God. Besides, this guy lost his Dad without a prior notice, he was (and is) still mourning when the call to take over the ministry and the next thing you want him to do is barb his hair just to please you guys? The church elders that chose him, the church members that joyfully clapped their hands when he was announced saw the dreads and dont bother. So, why do you want him to change his look just fit in to your image of a GO? His look is not the business of anyone that is not a member of his church. Let's allow the man manage his loss and the new assignment peacefully
@@fatokunbosede3112 Stop spreading false information, he didn't pastor the Cave church with dreads. He started growing dreads last year (2022) because of the movie "Woman King". Go check his 2021 pictures and videos online...
The world changes wouldn't change the Word of God. God is the Alpha and Omega. The First and the last. In the beginning was The word and the Word was with Godand aThe Word was God. God's Words is older than tThe Word
The things that happen in church makes me not quick to judge I beg... the people know why exactly they ordained them. If you have met evil people in church you will understand why some of these people keep leadership within their family ... Let God be the judge and may the work be more glorious. Continue to rest in peace Pastor Taiwo ,Nomthi and Bimbo.
It's kind of funny how we separate pastor's children from the members of the church. This new pastor is also a member as every other person in the church. The fact that the former pastor was his biological father has nothing to do with the way God works. Everyone will answer for themselves in heaven. There is no relationship when we get before the judgement throne. What I know in most cases is that, God does not call the qualified, He qualifies the called. We await what God is set to do in this vessel. Praise God.
Am not done listening to this but I love..God works in a mysterious WAYS..I will only pray for Pastor Jimi.May he pilot this ship better than his parents and will do exploit...May lives will be saved through him.
You're right by there fruits we shall know them .....our interpretation to this bible verse matters. Quoting bible on this ,I bet we will all sleep here. But I have understanding about what Grace those. "Not all that call him Father will see the kingdom of God. Heaven should be all our goal.
As much as I agree with most of what is being discussed here. We must understand that it is the Holy Spirit that converts people and not human ability or prowess, you don't have to be like the world to convert the world, that is the job of the Holy Spirit! The apostles had many converts joined the church without them trying to be like the world. The scripture says God added to the church daily. Na God dey convert people. However, it is the responsibility of Christians to give themselves more to the world and prayer!
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Titus 2:11-12 KJV
Girls,you guys cannot eat your cake and have it. Just concur that PJ took over his father's business. You guys are friends with that family. I understand your loyalty,you're speaking from the flesh and not the spirit. 2nd chronicle chp 19 vrs 7. King James Bible pls.
Extensive discussion ladies.Every possible areas was covered.The world is evolving and we must move with time.I attend rccg in dallas texas usa,and yoi cant tell a member not to do dread or wear ear rings.Your church will go empty
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from INIQUITY. 2 Timothy 2:19 KJV
Let's just hope that was God's choice that's all that matters . Whether people like Him or not if He is chosen of God let Him be. But if it was a move just because he is a first born son that church will suffer as a result of a wrong choice as did Israel in the days of Eli's sons, when the right choice of a younger man Samuel chosen by God came, God spoke again. Men looks at physical , God looks at the heart , God's choice whether it's Pastor Jimmy or some one else has to be at the healm. Time will tell .
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1 Only time will tell what the new pastor/overseer is made of! It takes someone that is in tune with the spirit of God to discern if a person/pastor exudes Godly spirit! We should remember as well that God looks on the inside, but humans look on the outside….when it’s all said and done, the spirit of God on the inside should determine our actions, behavior, utterances…etc The Bible says we’re made in the likeness of God…we should remember that we represent God In everything that we do, so if for example a lady wears mini skirt to church knowing it will be a distraction to the men (not their fault 😀) then we know she’s not operating under God’s spirit! Christians be informed by immersing yourself in the word. We are the ones that need to change oh…“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.” Hebrews 13:8 KJV
the ones that has no hair pastor suleiman, we hear a lot stuff about them, i refuse to judge anyone. Christ is in our heart, not all these judgemental Nigerians
The gospel of God doesn't need a worldly hairstyle, nudity, or sensuality to prosper. Am based in the US and people dress responsibly to church and work. Issue is you only visited California and newyork maybe. Which American president have you seen with long hair as western as they are. The ones with long hair and tattoo are new converts still growing. If only you know how depressed bishop Jakes was when the daughter got pregnant. But she asked for forgiveness learnt and improved. This man is hardened in the ways of Babylon and learning Egyptian doctrines from Israelites that were the most carnal at the point they left Egyt. By the over 99% of them did not enter the promise land due to their carnality if those are the ones you wish to follow.
Come Morayo, are you an ambassador for some spec shop or company? all these frames you are changing everyday like this they are entering my eyes o kilode. Pls who is your plug? they try wella 😊
Heaven is the reason CHRISt came...to save souls from eternal damnation.any pastor n person who does not preach the truth n point men to Heaven is not of GOD. Without Holiness, no man shall see GOD.
God Bless BeeCee!!! Finally someone that can tell the truth ! Huge shame that We don’t ever care and aren’t taught to know the culture and traditions of the old times, thus quoting verses out of context! Men and Women all wore those things that we castigate people for today. God help us and our ignorant selective religiosity.
All im saying is, If you plan on wearing red and blue, good. But red, purple, blue, yellow and pink all join... could be interesting but will definitely look and feel a kinda off.
Hmmm, first I believe, the installation was too soon. Those children for now should be on sabbatical leave with some therapy especially the young ones. The church is still grieving, I believe they need time to heal.
TVC , will you bring up islam n discuss on air? Lets allow the fear of GOD rule us. On this issue, the Body of Christ has missed it. Because people do it does not make it right before GOD. The rapture will soon happen and then we will know that all these things we have accepted is NOT accepted before GOD
I dont know if you are part of this ministry or not. But if you are uncomfortable with the new leadership you do not have to follow this particular ministry. A church home should not be a forced issue. Follow a ministry that you are comfortable with.
Please let not add or reduce to the word, abeg God did not send away the people in the church buying and selling because their was corruption, he sent them away when he saw them buying and selling. And everyone explain the Bible base on what suit them hmm let be careful not to shift away from the real truth cus we want to feel comfortable and give our self hope in our sin.
Yes o. The temple is not a place for merchandise,It is a place of communion with God. Merchandise will always come towards the temple. But should not be allowed in the temple.(Not when you should be reverencing God). Worship the God of the temple, not the temple of God.(But of course the temple deserves honour) Its kinda intertwined, but first, the priorities must be set right.
Jesus said it plainly, my house shall be a house of prayer, not a den of thieves.('People stealing from God') They didnt come to worship, they came for their own gain, in the disguise of selling things for sacrifices and Offerings The gains surely will come, but what happenned to order.
Joel Osteen inherited his role from his father. Pastor Joel was only part of the tv production team and he hated public speaking. He talk about this all the time. He spoke about how the people in his church criticized him for becoming the new pastor, so this is just a fact of ministry. People need to read their Bible closer. The Levites, the priests in the Old Testament, were a whole tribe dedicated to priesthood, generation after generation. Adefarasin’s- Pastors Wale, Yemi and Paul are all blood brothers with mega churches. Instead of people to celebrate a youth that has taken up this mantle, they’re just being aggravated for no reason.
@@edowitch4703 We need to balance scriptures like Christ said we should. We shouldn’t read scriptures like the colonial monsters/Roman emperors (gentiles) who stole scriptures from the original authors (brown/black men) twisted them and brought them to Africa to brainwash Africans and steal their resources. For everything God, our Father said we should or should not do there is a reason, always search scriptures so we don’t read scriptures like children. What that place said is, “do not tattoo for the dead.” Check Ezekiel 9:4, you’ll see where God put a mark on the forehead of the people He wanted to deliver; what do you think that “mark” was? The problem of tattoo is that of what is being tattooed and for what purpose
It’s a family business. The late general overseer didn’t mentor anyone? The church has no structure or hierarchy? We Christians can explain just about anything😂 in the same breath we will say politicians should appoint technocrats etc. The other pastors who have manned that ministry up until now will they and their children be assistant pastors as long as they remain in that church or should they go start their own churches?
Read your Bible for yourself first, check if it works in your life anf then, you can speak to others about it. Its just about Navigating life. Our God cannot be put in a box, yes i agree with dat.(In fact He himself has different dimensions and expressions for different times, seasons snd situations. He gave us his children dat same kind of life. But one sure thing is, as much as He knows how unpredictable He himself can be, His word is his bond. That bond checks Him, so that despite times and seasons... He remains the Same. Its a kind of mystery, If you know your God, youll make efforts to live like He would, If He lived in your (supposed time). He is Alpha and Omega, and everything between.
I disagree with some of there views,the bible is very clear about the way christians should live there life,jimmy odukoya may be called by God eventually he figure it out,if a guy comes to your house with dreadlocks and tattoos to marry you daughter you first feel that uncomfortable,this ladies her just speaking without back up there argument with bible scriptures, the most important thing is what did God view on it,God cannot compromise it standard to suit anyman,it topics like this that gave birth to homosexual pastoring churches in America today.i leave the view ladies with a quote from the bible, which say lo God have made the way of man straight but,man have chosen diverse way for himself
Morayo can be annoying sometimes. She just tries to pitch her narrative. We heard you and your husband already. Can you just rest on this matter? Thank you.
@@jumyadeyinka1858 so na God call him? Or the pastor no get assistant’s before he died? Lol make e just continue and enjoy the fruits of the family business 🤣
@@lekanadeneye4138 I think best thing is not to reply you again. You guys talked anyhow about Regina Daniels then, now you call her husband, her darling husband. So please leave Pastor Jimmy for us, we are okay and very satisfied He's our Pastor.
I am lost in this conversation. I just don’t want my children to go to church but to build relations with God. Service to God is not worshipping God. Many Christian’s do face service and not real worshippers of God. How many rules are we ready to break to distinguish Christian’s from the people in the world? Does it mean Christianity is now so accommodating to bring people in to the church that the church now is the one that need to change their standard to be like the world, not the world that suppose to change their ways to fit into the church standard rules? Who are we changing for good or bad to fit into the new norm the overzealous worldy people have set, the real Christians or the flamboyant worldly mindset new Christian? Matthew10: 34-41 Matthew 10 King James Version 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. 41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
Why not anoint Daddy Shoky to Pastor the church? Pastor kissing in films and having tatoo? Little wonder people don't take today's Christians seriously.
😂😂😂, u have a point o. Yea, all things may be lawful but not all is needed. Or necessary. Thats what expedient means.( its not dan dan). Well theres a always a price to pay for a higher ground. I believe pst Jimmy should be thinking of paying the very crucial prices. Evenif he isnt ready yet.
The lady in pink is full of wisdom. I 100% agree with you and I also believe Pastor Jimmy is the pastor for this season
Their father raised amazing children. He allowed his children to live their destiny. He led his children well.
My exact views! He didn't force Christ on them.. they're living their dreams and following Christ.
Yes Pastor Taiwo was an amazing Dad. The mutual respect between him and PJ was very clear and heartwarming to see…watched a live show with them. It’s available on RUclips.
@@Toluwani_of_AfricaWith pierced ears and so on ?I am only seeing the works of flesh on him..
I am only a couple of years younger than PJ’s mum…yet I am being blessed by his sermons. And his wife’s too. There is no doubt that this young man is anointed. I will definitely be visiting TFOLC.
PJ may your ministry be richly blessed. 🙏🏾
Sorry ma'am she's his elder sister not his wife
@@toyinolayinka8975 I have been blessed by PJ’s wife’s teachings too. She is Pastor Kemi. Check her out. I actually heard her preach before I heard his sisters. They can all preach. 😊🙏🏾
God bless this lady in Pink ❤ Pastor Jimi is an ordained Man of GOD and he's Spirit filled
Really, you have a barometer to measure that
@@rexigwe8759 Can you measure the Holy Spirit?! We feel the Holy Spirit. DO NOT JUDGE, Awon Science student.
@@jumyadeyinka1858With pierced ears and so on?I am only seeing the works of the flesh on him and he never become born again bcos if he do he will throw those things away.
The speaker who said she knows Jimmy spoke on point.I do not know Jimmy while watching the speech she made after the announcement. I think he has his mum’s kind of anointing he will definitely succeed in Jesus name amen
The God that called their parents home at this time knows that the children are ready and able. Am cool with it!
Congratulations to Pastor Jimmy. He can do it.
It was his father’s business empire, lol. abeg he should inherit it. Who else will be committed to a man’s vision more than his immediate family if they’re competent?
Nigerians should go and develop sense abeg
However you look, you attract and distract. Pastor Jimmy Odukoya is beautiful in and out. He has been called, so let us hold our peace.
Thank you Ladies for the conversation. Service without Gods acknowledgement and approval is a waste of time and energy. I don't mind Pastor Jimmy's Look as long as God approves of him we all can rest. It is also a great thing that our children can take over the flock with which God as put us over, however if the child is not in a perfect relationship with God it is not advisable. God bless us all. Jesus is Lord
Beautiful discussion. Broad perspective. Love u ladies. I am for Pastor Jimmy! God of David is still the God that chose Samuel
It's biblical, it's from generation to generation as long as they are well mentored, Nuclear family suffers the most when their parents are pastors they deserve every bit of it
God bless you, Bisi. We made God in our own image.
I'm an elderly person and a member of TFOLC. I thank God that Pastor Jay stepped into the shoes of his father; not just myself, many of the elderly members are pleased to have him as the Senior Pastor. Finally, let me say here clearly, the content matters more than the container in this case. Fountainers are really enjoying the move of God in a new dimension and we are being blessed by Pastor Jay:s ministration. Pastor Jay is a God-fearing and Spirit-filled man, no doubt about that.
The way of God is different from our Nigerian judgmental way. That pastor is as qualified as any other pastor who clean shave.
Hopefully, Actually God qualifies. Nobody really qualifies. Its mostly about availability and total(non calculative) surrender. ( which is not for children)
You guys are great .
Everyday, watching your broadcast , I keep falling in love with your intelligent and insightful manners of analysing matters and issues objectively .
Receive good reward for a good deed
I go to MFM here in the United States, people wear trousers to church and they open their hair!
😂..... double standards
The WORD OF GOD has never changed. GOD has never changed n will never change, no matter the generation.
As a teacher, i have come to the realization that when teaching, you jave to put the culture of your learners into consideration
People are always quick to say abroad, please can someone count the number of General Overseers abroad that Plait long hair, and let's see if they can count 10. When Pastor Jimmy started growing his dreads, he was not the General Overseer of a big church in Nigeria, he was just a Pastor's son and an actor who happened to be ordained in the church and that would actually work at that point.
Even in board rooms and politics, how well will a Nigerian politician be taken seriously with long dreadlocks? I really hope the Fathers of Faith can really guide Pastor Jimmy from their wealth of experience and not allow the decade of great work done by the parents to be rubbished because of frivolous things like plaiting hair, having tattoos, and keeping beards.
Really, the work of a G.O. is about setting examples and standards for society, the problem is that there should always be a difference between a church and a club, but now girls dress to church almost fully naked, and very soon Pastors in Nigeria will now be competing who has the best-looking dreadlocks and younger generation are watching and they will just take it to the next level.
God bless u
No, when he started growing his dread he wasn't just a pastor's son and an actor who happened to be ordained. He had been a pastor before he started acting, and with his acting career he founded The Cave Church and pastored it with his dread. He didn't happened to be ordained, he was called, his journey in the ministry started abroad in other churches that aren't his father's, in fact, he first got his licence as a minister of the Gospel in Oklahoma in 2009 before he got ordained in Nigeria.
There's nothing wrong with his dread and you guys don't know the deal between him and his God. There was a time when Apostle Paul too left his hair as a vow to God.
Besides, this guy lost his Dad without a prior notice, he was (and is) still mourning when the call to take over the ministry and the next thing you want him to do is barb his hair just to please you guys?
The church elders that chose him, the church members that joyfully clapped their hands when he was announced saw the dreads and dont bother. So, why do you want him to change his look just fit in to your image of a GO?
His look is not the business of anyone that is not a member of his church.
Let's allow the man manage his loss and the new assignment peacefully
@@fatokunbosede3112
lol 😂😆
@@fatokunbosede3112 Stop spreading false information, he didn't pastor the Cave church with dreads.
He started growing dreads last year (2022) because of the movie "Woman King". Go check his 2021 pictures and videos online...
@fatokunbosede3112 God bless you. The people judging and criticising him should mind their business and face the own walk with God.
The world changes wouldn't change the Word of God. God is the Alpha and Omega. The First and the last. In the beginning was The word and the Word was with Godand aThe Word was God. God's Words is older than tThe Word
Look at sarah jakes robert with all the stories so how she is blessing people and has taken over her fathers ministry
The things that happen in church makes me not quick to judge I beg... the people know why exactly they ordained them. If you have met evil people in church you will understand why some of these people keep leadership within their family ... Let God be the judge and may the work be more glorious. Continue to rest in peace Pastor Taiwo ,Nomthi and Bimbo.
Those that chosen He qualifies!
It's kind of funny how we separate pastor's children from the members of the church. This new pastor is also a member as every other person in the church. The fact that the former pastor was his biological father has nothing to do with the way God works. Everyone will answer for themselves in heaven. There is no relationship when we get before the judgement throne.
What I know in most cases is that, God does not call the qualified, He qualifies the called.
We await what God is set to do in this vessel. Praise God.
Time will tell. I wish him well
See oooo,me I am blessed by his Ministration. Look for Mercy Me part 3 listen to it and be blessed.
Am not done listening to this but I love..God works in a mysterious WAYS..I will only pray for Pastor Jimi.May he pilot this ship better than his parents and will do exploit...May lives will be saved through him.
With pierced ears and so on?He never become born again o I am only seeing the works of the flesh on him
@@kennethjames563 who are we to judge who is born again or not..
@@olaronkeonaolapo9876The Bible says by their fruits we shall know them.
You're right by there fruits we shall know them .....our interpretation to this bible verse matters.
Quoting bible on this ,I bet we will all sleep here.
But I have understanding about what Grace those.
"Not all that call him Father will see the kingdom of God.
Heaven should be all our goal.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭DON'T LET THE DEVIL TAKE YOUR JOY PRECIOUS SAINTS. HE IS A DECCEIVER THE FATHER OF lies. ooooooo. SHALOM!!!!
The scripture says, I and my children God has called!
Ha Daddy GO wearing suit,Mommy GO wearing hats! Father have mercy on this ladies oh
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Listening from Guyana 🇬🇾
Well Toke you have a point . God looks at the heart
As much as I agree with most of what is being discussed here. We must understand that it is the Holy Spirit that converts people and not human ability or prowess, you don't have to be like the world to convert the world, that is the job of the Holy Spirit! The apostles had many converts joined the church without them trying to be like the world. The scripture says God added to the church daily. Na God dey convert people. However, it is the responsibility of Christians to give themselves more to the world and prayer!
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Titus 2:11-12 KJV
Girls,you guys cannot eat your cake and have it. Just concur that PJ took over his father's business. You guys are friends with that family. I understand your loyalty,you're speaking from the flesh and not the spirit. 2nd chronicle chp 19 vrs 7. King James Bible pls.
Extensive discussion ladies.Every possible areas was covered.The world is evolving and we must move with time.I attend rccg in dallas texas usa,and yoi cant tell a member not to do dread or wear ear rings.Your church will go empty
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from INIQUITY.
2 Timothy 2:19 KJV
Why are you judgemental?🙄🙄
And what's the iniquity here?
1 Cor 10:12; Matthew 7:1-5
Lady in pink deserves an iphone 15 kai. She is speaking the truth.
Let's just hope that was God's choice that's all that matters . Whether people like Him or not if He is chosen of God let Him be. But if it was a move just because he is a first born son that church will suffer as a result of a wrong choice as did Israel in the days of Eli's sons, when the right choice of a younger man Samuel chosen by God came, God spoke again. Men looks at physical , God looks at the heart , God's choice whether it's Pastor Jimmy or some one else has to be at the healm. Time will tell .
Sorry, is Mariam a Christian. Thank you ladies for this conversation. I would keep saying it, we are proud of PJ and we receive him with Thanksgiving.
She is
Yes
God will deliver His church.
Congratulations Pastor
Family Business will be taking care by family period.
Idahosa,TB Joshua,Oshoffa etc
Oyedepo and rest will do the same when they past so no big deal
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”
1 John 4:1
Only time will tell what the new pastor/overseer is made of! It takes someone that is in tune with the spirit of God to discern if a person/pastor exudes Godly spirit!
We should remember as well that God looks on the inside, but humans look on the outside….when it’s all said and done, the spirit of God on the inside should determine our actions, behavior, utterances…etc
The Bible says we’re made in the likeness of God…we should remember that we represent God In everything that we do, so if for example a lady wears mini skirt to church knowing it will be a distraction to the men (not their fault 😀) then we know she’s not operating under God’s spirit!
Christians be informed by immersing yourself in the word. We are the ones that need to change oh…“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
Hebrews 13:8 KJV
Well said BeeCee
the ones that has no hair pastor suleiman, we hear a lot stuff about them, i refuse to judge anyone. Christ is in our heart, not all these judgemental Nigerians
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Well said Beecee( lady in pink)
The gospel of God doesn't need a worldly hairstyle, nudity, or sensuality to prosper. Am based in the US and people dress responsibly to church and work. Issue is you only visited California and newyork maybe. Which American president have you seen with long hair as western as they are. The ones with long hair and tattoo are new converts still growing. If only you know how depressed bishop Jakes was when the daughter got pregnant. But she asked for forgiveness learnt and improved. This man is hardened in the ways of Babylon and learning Egyptian doctrines from Israelites that were the most carnal at the point they left Egyt. By the over 99% of them did not enter the promise land due to their carnality if those are the ones you wish to follow.
Great discussion
alot of black pastors has beards, TD jakes, is pastor, he is an actor with full beards
Now that we can't separate tugs from pastor, what then are we saying
Come Morayo, are you an ambassador for some spec shop or company? all these frames you are changing everyday like this they are entering my eyes o kilode. Pls who is your plug? they try wella 😊
The same people complaining now would have been the one crucifying him if his children where not following.....
It is not the way you think. It is about what God is saying
At the end of the day, the church is a business.
It's just business, no need for emotions
Let’s not be explicit where God is not Explicit
Heaven is the reason CHRISt came...to save souls from eternal damnation.any pastor n person who does not preach the truth n point men to Heaven is not of GOD. Without Holiness, no man shall see GOD.
Well if it is of God, no man or devil in hell will be able to change anything . Otherwise , let us be patient and know that God is always in control .
God Bless BeeCee!!! Finally someone that can tell the truth ! Huge shame that We don’t ever care and aren’t taught to know the culture and traditions of the old times, thus quoting verses out of context! Men and Women all wore those things that we castigate people for today. God help us and our ignorant selective religiosity.
If he's living a Christian life and he has leadership and integrity why not. Plus he was a youth pastor already. People focus the wrong things.
If we always jugde the looks and the sins of the barrier of the word we will miss the message.
God looks at innermost and our heart and intention , we human beings look at the outward appearance .
Well, I wont take a cup of water from a madman on the street. Appearance is a pointer to what d thoughts most likely looks like.
All im saying is, If you plan on wearing red and blue, good. But red, purple, blue, yellow and pink all join... could be interesting but will definitely look and feel a kinda off.
Hmmm, first I believe, the installation was too soon. Those children for now should be on sabbatical leave with some therapy especially the young ones. The church is still grieving, I believe they need time to heal.
its true outward appearance and profession shouldnt be what we use to jugde the things of the spirit, but what if its deals with SIN
TVC , will you bring up islam n discuss on air? Lets allow the fear of GOD rule us. On this issue, the Body of Christ has missed it. Because people do it does not make it right before GOD. The rapture will soon happen and then we will know that all these things we have accepted is NOT accepted before GOD
What is the outburst about?why?Did they raise him up or does he have a scandal or is it just the Nigerian judgemental spirit?
I tire o.
What's the end of Samson?
It is hard for me to accept this.
I get you. Just pray to be released from a religious mind and mindset. It won't be hard anymore. Love from here
I dont know if you are part of this ministry or not. But if you are uncomfortable with the new leadership you do not have to follow this particular ministry. A church home should not be a forced issue. Follow a ministry that you are comfortable with.
You will not pull Christ ian on the way you think but what God says. Morayo has a point.dress decently
Please let not add or reduce to the word, abeg God did not send away the people in the church buying and selling because their was corruption, he sent them away when he saw them buying and selling. And everyone explain the Bible base on what suit them hmm let be careful not to shift away from the real truth cus we want to feel comfortable and give our self hope in our sin.
Beautifully stated. Modern Christians will forever fixing the word to live a life of unholiness.❤❤❤❤
Yes o. The temple is not a place for merchandise,It is a place of communion with God. Merchandise will always come towards the temple. But should not be allowed in the temple.(Not when you should be reverencing God).
Worship the God of the temple, not the temple of God.(But of course the temple deserves honour)
Its kinda intertwined, but first, the priorities must be set right.
Jesus said it plainly, my house shall be a house of prayer, not a den of thieves.('People stealing from God') They didnt come to worship, they came for their own gain, in the disguise of selling things for sacrifices and Offerings
The gains surely will come, but what happenned to order.
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Go and read about Apostle Paul...Actor self good
When pastor david jnr oyedepo takes over what will now happen
We will all rejoice and be glad
Politics everywhere
Not only in Nigeria you see transfer from father to Son .
God forgive, why is it that God only calls most of them family??
Who is this woman with a blue dress she doesn't know what she is saying, why would she say if u follow what God says u will miss road
The church of Nigeria is about to change
Why is it that it is only in Christianity that the standard and boundaries keep moving. God's standard will be the same regardless of geography.
Joel Osteen inherited his role from his father. Pastor Joel was only part of the tv production team and he hated public speaking. He talk about this all the time. He spoke about how the people in his church criticized him for becoming the new pastor, so this is just a fact of ministry. People need to read their Bible closer. The Levites, the priests in the Old Testament, were a whole tribe dedicated to priesthood, generation after generation. Adefarasin’s- Pastors Wale, Yemi and Paul are all blood brothers with mega churches. Instead of people to celebrate a youth that has taken up this mantle, they’re just being aggravated for no reason.
I cannot fellowship under a pastor with tattoo and dreadlocks
They're not asking you to leave your church, are they?
😊
But Old Testament said we should tattoo the word of God on us.
The old testament doesn't support tattoo
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We need to balance scriptures like Christ said we should. We shouldn’t read scriptures like the colonial monsters/Roman emperors (gentiles) who stole scriptures from the original authors (brown/black men) twisted them and brought them to Africa to brainwash Africans and steal their resources. For everything God, our Father said we should or should not do there is a reason, always search scriptures so we don’t read scriptures like children. What that place said is, “do not tattoo for the dead.” Check Ezekiel 9:4, you’ll see where God put a mark on the forehead of the people He wanted to deliver; what do you think that “mark” was? The problem of tattoo is that of what is being tattooed and for what purpose
It’s a family business. The late general overseer didn’t mentor anyone? The church has no structure or hierarchy? We Christians can explain just about anything😂 in the same breath we will say politicians should appoint technocrats etc. The other pastors who have manned that ministry up until now will they and their children be assistant pastors as long as they remain in that church or should they go start their own churches?
Did the other pastors complain to you,pls stop been God
@@toyinolayinka8975if you have a contrary point or opinion please state it
Your looks says a lot about you, I am not confused enough.... my take, Jimmy should take off his dreadlocks.
Hmmmm…… 1 Sam 16:7, John 7:24. Final decision is with God.
Morayo, God did not tell them anything. They are running a family business. Wake up and smell the coffee. Stop being so naive and gullible.
Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speak
lets judge him oo. Pastor whey plait hair no be serious person.
I can bet some of these ladies would never accept some looks from their spouses...
Do you guys have any proof of any scandals he has been involved in if not pray for him the outside look has nothing to do with spirituality
Read your Bible for yourself first, check if it works in your life anf then, you can speak to others about it. Its just about Navigating life. Our God cannot be put in a box, yes i agree with dat.(In fact He himself has different dimensions and expressions for different times, seasons snd situations. He gave us his children dat same kind of life. But one sure thing is, as much as He knows how unpredictable He himself can be, His word is his bond. That bond checks Him, so that despite times and seasons... He remains the Same. Its a kind of mystery, If you know your God, youll make efforts to live like He would, If He lived in your (supposed time). He is Alpha and Omega, and everything between.
Dressed modest please.
Please has anyone looked at pastor joel tudson a black man that has dreadlocks who preaches in potters house
Naira Marley will soon become a pastor.... Na God call am
I disagree with some of there views,the bible is very clear about the way christians should live there life,jimmy odukoya may be called by God eventually he figure it out,if a guy comes to your house with dreadlocks and tattoos to marry you daughter you first feel that uncomfortable,this ladies her just speaking without back up there argument with bible scriptures, the most important thing is what did God view on it,God cannot compromise it standard to suit anyman,it topics like this that gave birth to homosexual pastoring churches in America today.i leave the view ladies with a quote from the bible, which say lo God have made the way of man straight but,man have chosen diverse way for himself
Morayo can be annoying sometimes. She just tries to pitch her narrative. We heard you and your husband already. Can you just rest on this matter? Thank you.
Anointed or selected???
Both!
@@jumyadeyinka1858 so na God call him? Or the pastor no get assistant’s before he died? Lol make e just continue and enjoy the fruits of the family business 🤣
@@lekanadeneye4138 I think best thing is not to reply you again. You guys talked anyhow about Regina Daniels then, now you call her husband, her darling husband.
So please leave Pastor Jimmy for us, we are okay and very satisfied He's our Pastor.
Those terms are not necessarily mutually exclusive
When God called you, was it your personal money alone you used to build the church to where it is?
I am lost in this conversation. I just don’t want my children to go to church but to build relations with God. Service to God is not worshipping God. Many Christian’s do face service and not real worshippers of God.
How many rules are we ready to break to distinguish Christian’s from the people in the world?
Does it mean Christianity is now so accommodating to bring people in to the church that the church now is the one that need to change their standard to be like the world, not the world that suppose to change their ways to fit into the church standard rules?
Who are we changing for good or bad to fit into the new norm the overzealous worldy people have set, the real Christians or the flamboyant worldly mindset new Christian?
Matthew10: 34-41
Matthew 10
King James Version
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
Why not anoint Daddy Shoky to Pastor the church? Pastor kissing in films and having tatoo? Little wonder people don't take today's Christians seriously.
😂😂😂, u have a point o. Yea, all things may be lawful but not all is needed. Or necessary. Thats what expedient means.( its not dan dan).
Well theres a always a price to pay for a higher ground. I believe pst Jimmy should be thinking of paying the very crucial prices. Evenif he isnt ready yet.