Excellent and extensive coverage of Lee sin. I initially thought that most of the more advanced Lee mechanics that you displayed later on in the video were typical only known to Lee sin one trick communities, but this video is extremely comprehensive and thorough. Sorry if that sounds pretentious haha. Amazing work as always, dobby. You’re truly a great analyst and player.
I remember my first time saw the W ward kick in Chauster stream then I practiced and used it in my rank game and everyone is in shock… Time past, I’m too old for this game now, but Lee still shine in the game and pro play!!
Hello again dobby ! I thank you again for the wonderful tips and tricks ! Lee sin has to be my favorite champion because the variety of builds that can make lee sin very situational like AD, Bruiser, or even tank lee sin. I believe that in every meta , lee sin will always be one of the best junglers/bruisers that can follow many comps and the high skill cap and mechanical skill that can lead into flashy plays . Thank you again for making this Lee sin guide !
Really good vid. Hope this will help me, a complete noob who played lee sin twice (in ARurf) in his short league experience but still wants to play him, to get better.
Great video, maybe now people can stop saying Lee is weak cuz he has a 45% winrate in 12.10 and instead get better hands. Lee feels good in 12.10, u just have to actually be good at the champion
Canyon just did the cancel w with q and r while dashing in pro play. He did it when his team was behind a lot and he would easily lose the game if he failed, but he pulled it out, kicking the enemy sivir from their whole team (he broke the shield with smite too)
Dobby I would love to see ehat you could analyze of this player: 혈안의적룡+애디 called Ady, he plays shyvana, taric, swain and sometimes galio all in toplane with a weird style
Ive been maining Lee Sin since i started to play back in S4, my peak is only diamond and i'm mechanically mediocre with most champs, my winrate with him never goes above 51% and has been as bad as 43% with more than 3 million mastery And even if i have a 70% winrate with Hecarim and Zac and a similarly high wr% with easy stuff like Poppy and Wukong i can still say nothing is as fun as playing Lee sin, forever jungle king of League
Also check out Edwin Leo’s channel. He posts vods of kzh and makes montages of other mechanically insane Lee sins as well. He’s high elo and is also pretty decent at Lee himself.
Hi, i love your videos dobby. I am in love with kassadin and i would love to onetrick him, but i can't handle laning phase and my mid game isn't perfect. If theres any chance for you to record a video about him it would be a life saver. Anyways i hope you will keep doing videos all of them are really helpfull :)!
I would add the fact that as Lee Sin you want to use second Q as late as possible because enemy can't deal you damage when you are away from them, so after going with Q(2) you want to go back to your allies wtih W and about second later you want to go in with next Q again by the way I find Trundle a counter as well.
@@notbetsy9109 yeah i find soooo difficult to use flash and a shortcut for ward on my keyboard. Currently i use à shortcut on m'y mouse but my combo is not a rly success
@@Loobra if you mean the flash+ward hop combo you gotta press the ward first out of range (but in range after the flash) to buffer it and then actually flash.. So as soon as you flash the ward will be placed.. Practice that first then add W to jump
If Lee has significant ability haste, he can hit Q(1), then use Q(2) but cancelling it, Lee can fail the second Q(1) and use the mark of the first Q(1) with the second Q(2). However I saw it only in URF. Edit: I rembemered another thing: if Lee hits the second Q(1) in another target, the second Q(2) still goes on mark of the first Q(1), basically Lee can be looping with this.
my hands are truly my counter. I cant even effortlessly ward hope with w. I put down the ward and then there is a 1 second delay on my w. But thankfully you can also play mechanically simpler champs and pop off.
-Regarding the R+Auto. You don't need to be close, you can do it at max range Auto. You just need to click the target twice (because the window is shorter if you are doing it at max range rather than closer).- You do however, need to be close for E/Gore to hit. *Edit:* It's been a while since I played Lee, I remembered things wrong. You can *NOT* do R+AA at max range auto. However, If you are at max range auto you can still use your E and it will hit. Only useful if you can't hit the extra auto.
2 things wrong 1. You need to rightclick the target after the R cast time is done. 2. This window is the R cast time. Its always 0.25s and it doesnt change. Pretty obvious you only based it on pure feel
@@wat4504 Yeah I just tested this, you are right, It doesn't work. You need to be closer than your auto range to hit the auto mid air. You do however can use E if you are at your maximun auto range, so you do R+E then Q2+AA. I edited my original comment, feel free to point out any other mistake I have made.
@@eduardoledesma5568 "You can NOT do R+AA at max range auto" No this depends on your attack speed, but with a normal one you absolutely can do R+AA at max range Also that's not my point here, im saying that the "clicking twice" method is wrong. It should be "click after the R cast time is done" in order for the combo to work And my second point is about the "window is shorter if youre doing it at max range". The window is the same everytime regardless of how far you are from the target. This click window doesnt change
Just a Tipp , u dont Q in High Elo like in the first clip... This is a Low Elo mistake .... U ward jump to be sure that your Q Hit .. cuz the first Clip from that Low Elo lee sin, show"s the mistake really good .. he must waste his Flash cuz he fucked up his Q at the first place... and he can Hit all 3 with ult also
I love how Dobby listed "your own hands" as a lee counter 😂
^
I was thinking about training my blind monk combos, and very conveniently the best league guide channel uploads this amazing video. Thanks Dobby!
had the same thing happen with GP
Counters: your hands
Ah yes. Same problem here.
Excellent and extensive coverage of Lee sin. I initially thought that most of the more advanced Lee mechanics that you displayed later on in the video were typical only known to Lee sin one trick communities, but this video is extremely comprehensive and thorough. Sorry if that sounds pretentious haha. Amazing work as always, dobby. You’re truly a great analyst and player.
The last montage clip was one of the coolest Lee Sin montages I've ever seen. Nice Dobby!!
I remember my first time saw the W ward kick in Chauster stream then I practiced and used it in my rank game and everyone is in shock… Time past, I’m too old for this game now, but Lee still shine in the game and pro play!!
How old are you?
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This reassures me that lee is far above my skill ceiling, love the video Dobby
You can watch more wonderful Lee Sin montages on youtube 'Edwin Leo'
That's all Lee sin Content overthere lol
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Hello again dobby ! I thank you again for the wonderful tips and tricks ! Lee sin has to be my favorite champion because the variety of builds that can make lee sin very situational like AD, Bruiser, or even tank lee sin. I believe that in every meta , lee sin will always be one of the best junglers/bruisers that can follow many comps and the high skill cap and mechanical skill that can lead into flashy plays . Thank you again for making this Lee sin guide !
I laughed so hard at 10:36 "Protect your carries with ult then go for the backline" The Jhin gets ulted by reksai and dies anyway XD
i waited so long for this guide thank you dobby!
Great video as always
alot of things i didnt knew tho i'm mostly curious about combos etc on champs thanks for this vid as always precise and easy to understand dobby!
Dobby, you are sadly underrated in youtube. Much aprecciated work buddy.
Just got Lee's dragonmancer skins and decided to main him on lane, thanks for the general tips Dobby!
Really good vid.
Hope this will help me, a complete noob who played lee sin twice (in ARurf) in his short league experience but still wants to play him, to get better.
Great video, maybe now people can stop saying Lee is weak cuz he has a 45% winrate in 12.10 and instead get better hands. Lee feels good in 12.10, u just have to actually be good at the champion
Canyon just did the cancel w with q and r while dashing in pro play. He did it when his team was behind a lot and he would easily lose the game if he failed, but he pulled it out, kicking the enemy sivir from their whole team (he broke the shield with smite too)
"Your hands! My death!" Wait that's not how the Lee Sin quote goes... 🤔
The last gameplay clip was insane😲
Hi Dobby, I love you're videos. Can you make a video on Jinx ?
Dobby casually shows us the Chinese Lee Sin combos and then "Challengers don't focus on the combos in pink" LOL
never the part of "first essencials" has been so long hahaha great vid
Dobby I would love to see ehat you could analyze of this player: 혈안의적룡+애디 called Ady, he plays shyvana, taric, swain and sometimes galio all in toplane with a weird style
you are really doing a great job. you are really helping the community improve.
Finally, I love you :^]
Finally, we needed this
OMFG THANK YOU SO MUCH I LOVE YOU DOBBY I JUST STARTED SPAMMING LEE
Ive been maining Lee Sin since i started to play back in S4, my peak is only diamond and i'm mechanically mediocre with most champs, my winrate with him never goes above 51% and has been as bad as 43% with more than 3 million mastery
And even if i have a 70% winrate with Hecarim and Zac and a similarly high wr% with easy stuff like Poppy and Wukong i can still say nothing is as fun as playing Lee sin, forever jungle king of League
same here, maybe im not that good with champs like qiyana but man they are so fun (have like 600k with qiyana)
@@Rotsen44 this me trying to be good on Akali
Thanks for making quality content Dobby ♥
You should check out KZH lee sin. He's a lee sin OTP and currently close to 2000lp in the super server. His decision making is phenomenal.
Most of the clips in this video are from him playing in his new KR account
There are lots of his clips :)
Also check out Edwin Leo’s channel. He posts vods of kzh and makes montages of other mechanically insane Lee sins as well. He’s high elo and is also pretty decent at Lee himself.
Hi, i love your videos dobby. I am in love with kassadin and i would love to onetrick him, but i can't handle laning phase and my mid game isn't perfect. If theres any chance for you to record a video about him it would be a life saver. Anyways i hope you will keep doing videos all of them are really helpfull :)!
Counters: your hands
That was good
Hi Dobby thanks for the videos i love them ! Could you tell me how do you map your keyboard while playing lee sin ?
Bro i wanna ask about the double Q time ??? Like in the 9:20 no coldown for your Q
Hi Dobby, could we get a Nidalee carry video one day? You’re the best :)
Sure I'll make it.
I love this channel
Thank you very much, dear Dobby! I've learned so much from your video, god bless your soul and your family
Ooooh can't wait for an updated Qiyana guide
Those advanced mecanics are only used in normals by some chinese one tricks and a lot of them stopped playing the game :c
Which one is better? Lee goredrinker or prowler claw
Thank you for answering my request Dobby ❤
this is not for you dumaz
The hardest part about playing this champ is mostly the decision making aspect. It's also what makes him really fun to play, I guess.
Really nice of you to actually do the combos instead of just showing it with a highlight
Dunno why but whenever i use the Dragon skin for Leesin, my combos are smooth asf
long time no see your tips & tricks vid dobby
2:17 q2 don't deal % missing heal, it increased by 0% − 100% (based on target's missing health).
The better combo at 6:05 is Q (wait) - Ward.W - Q - E (Midair) - R - Auto - Q - Q
Can you please make a jayce video would be nice keep up with the work you videos helped me a lot
God these combos. Lee Sin has to be the highest skill cap champion in the game
I always feel so weak damage wise with the conq/goredrinker builds. Is the lethality build too troll?
the counters is the best part 12:44
the last point one is
Jhin outplay was so sick :D
I would add the fact that as Lee Sin you want to use second Q as late as possible because enemy can't deal you damage when you are away from them, so after going with Q(2) you want to go back to your allies wtih W and about second later you want to go in with next Q again by the way I find Trundle a counter as well.
Are some of these clips from CN Combo Lee?
I know him but there are not his clips.
@@LoLDobby ok thank you
@@LoLDobby how do you know cn combo lee
The last counter is a fact
The most important thing you mentioned is the counters for lee sin
would LOVE to see a kassadin guide!
great video thank you! could you please share your shortcuts for spells and items ? As i find them very difficult to optimize for lee sin. Thank you
You mean you find difficult doing combos with default shortcuts?
@@notbetsy9109 yeah i find soooo difficult to use flash and a shortcut for ward on my keyboard. Currently i use à shortcut on m'y mouse but my combo is not a rly success
@@Loobra if you mean the flash+ward hop combo you gotta press the ward first out of range (but in range after the flash) to buffer it and then actually flash..
So as soon as you flash the ward will be placed..
Practice that first then add W to jump
I was watching about canyon lee sin vs tarzan warwick and then u uploaded an hour ago
what a day
what happened to the usual music bro?
lee's combo not only counter my hands but also my teammates' eyes
how do you ward and ward hop at the same time
Well you instantly press W after 4. It's really just a matter of speed
or make the ward shortcut space/T etc
Yo Dobby, why don't you make a channel for wild rift as well?
Would LOVE to see videos about the game
I remember when insec was the most flashy amazing combo ever. LUL how times have changed
i love how he showed the advanced combos but now i have no idea what his base combo his ahahaha
Welp time to learn Lee sin
"your will! my hands!" LOL
If Lee has significant ability haste, he can hit Q(1), then use Q(2) but cancelling it, Lee can fail the second Q(1) and use the mark of the first Q(1) with the second Q(2). However I saw it only in URF.
Edit: I rembemered another thing: if Lee hits the second Q(1) in another target, the second Q(2) still goes on mark of the first Q(1), basically Lee can be looping with this.
Now I got the best excuse for my shitty lee combo.
"I got counter by my hand!!"
Thanks
my hands are truly my counter. I cant even effortlessly ward hope with w. I put down the ward and then there is a 1 second delay on my w. But thankfully you can also play mechanically simpler champs and pop off.
ty dobby
Thank you , too !
I knew it, my hands always betrayed me when i play lee sin.
lee is honestly so fun
Can you do pyke next
I'm playing on mobile and don't understand some of the term
What does gore mean?
I think carpal tunnel will take me long before I learn these combos lol
12:48 true im really struggling with my hands lmaao
can you make a rengar video
best tutorial
i feel like insecs make me feel like i have to press 1000 keys in one second
more tricks to learn
-Regarding the R+Auto. You don't need to be close, you can do it at max range Auto. You just need to click the target twice (because the window is shorter if you are doing it at max range rather than closer).- You do however, need to be close for E/Gore to hit.
*Edit:* It's been a while since I played Lee, I remembered things wrong. You can *NOT* do R+AA at max range auto. However, If you are at max range auto you can still use your E and it will hit. Only useful if you can't hit the extra auto.
2 things wrong
1. You need to rightclick the target after the R cast time is done.
2. This window is the R cast time. Its always 0.25s and it doesnt change.
Pretty obvious you only based it on pure feel
@@wat4504 Yeah I just tested this, you are right, It doesn't work. You need to be closer than your auto range to hit the auto mid air. You do however can use E if you are at your maximun auto range, so you do R+E then Q2+AA. I edited my original comment, feel free to point out any other mistake I have made.
@@eduardoledesma5568
"You can NOT do R+AA at max range auto"
No this depends on your attack speed, but with a normal one you absolutely can do R+AA at max range
Also that's not my point here, im saying that the "clicking twice" method is wrong. It should be "click after the R cast time is done" in order for the combo to work
And my second point is about the "window is shorter if youre doing it at max range". The window is the same everytime regardless of how far you are from the target. This click window doesnt change
I have stone hands like Malphite that counter every champion in the game. Super OP. Hopefully nerfed after watching Dobby videos.
Dobby you should make a video reviewing climb of agurin on Korean server
Oh I saw his clips. I'll spectate him
I just started doing the zed combos
Can you do kalista
are you still maining qiyana?
"What makes challengers so good at Lee Sin?"
Fast fingers. Thank me later.
I think more be how GRIPEX plays with lee sin
Dobby I love u
why did they delete prowler :(
Yeah my hands will probably be the biggest counter.
After this video I end up 0 3 lee. My team flamed me and I regret I bought lee sin 😂😂😂
Just a Tipp , u dont Q in High Elo like in the first clip...
This is a Low Elo mistake .... U ward jump to be sure that your Q Hit ..
cuz the first Clip from that Low Elo lee sin, show"s the mistake really good .. he must waste his Flash cuz he fucked up his Q at the first place... and he can Hit all 3 with ult also
Doubt is the greatest enemy
i actually miss playing lee sin, i used play alot of lee sin, but im not that good so...
It was at this very moment Billy knew... He was dog shit a Lee Sin
Ando don't forget the ANOTHER COUNTER PICK FOR LEE SIN
SHACO
here it is