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Swedish saab is a single engine, Eurofighter has multiple owner countries with decision making power to block. The USA has an arm twisting mentality. Rafael & Russian is available only after a decade.
If there is ToT for any fighter it would be great for make in india and indegeneous fighter ecosytem. Rafael will be delivered very late , India has already offer of Su-35, lets see what happens.
but there is a production unit available at sweden of GE engines..SAAB gripen E is a very good fighter jet.. it can take off from express way also very easily... easy maintenance ... cost is comparatively low...
@vigneshbabu547 rafale is very expensive now. And presently not available..due to international orders...so Eurofighter Typhoon is the only option...I think India made a blunder by withdrawing from SU 57 Program..
In 90s, China become ace in Reverse Engineering and immediate copy and paste. Brands like Sony Ericsson and Nokia face difficulties competing due to their black market.. Whereas, thanks to some politicians in India who are till to date, busy with freebies and appeasement. High time, India needs true meritocracy with good Visionary leaders instead of nepo-kids.
As an indian we are not able to make maggi masala yet. Nestle earned around 15 billion us dollar from india in 2024. And total deal of fighter is 20 billion us dollar😂. It’s collective failure of 140 million indians.
The best option is to consolidate with Rafael... there's no point in getting into a new ecosystem...as maintenance costs would be astronomical. IAF is obviously aware of all this...the tender game is to get the best offer of the lot & get ToT , manufacturing set up in India & an engine deal.
With Saab Gripen what TOT are we talking about, they use imported GE engine, so do we, and the rest of the avionics india has already started developing on its own.
कुछ नहीं से अच्छा थोड़ा-बहुत कम भी चलता है। वैसे स्वीडन की तकनीक उन्नत होती है। सबसे महत्वपूर्ण बात है कि ग्रीफन की आपूर्ति 24 फाइटर प्रति बर्ष होगी जो दसाल्ट कभी भी नहीं कभी नहीं कर सकता। वह भी समझौते के 3 बर्ष के भीतर। ToT 💯 % अलग।
5th generation SU 57 costs 50 million per unit, thats much lesser than typhoon 138 million per unit. we should not buy 4th generation, its like nokia handset now
I thinking India should go for Gripen because they will deliver it in shorter period of time and they will transfer 100% technology which will help India to develop its own engine in shorter time period.
Rafale has production constraints as we might get after 7 years, and SAAB has a GE F414 engine (US) so that is also not an option, Su-35 is good but there might be sanctions, so Eurofighter can be given preference if they (all 4 countries agree) agree for ToT and IP rights, especially for Engine EZ-200 which we can use on Tejas Mk-1A and if we can increase its thrust by 10% then we can replace F414 in Tejas Mk2 as well. Of course, India can reduce the number of jets if Russia offers Su-57 with ToT of engine and weapon integration system so it can be given to both Eurofighter & Su-57
Yeah sab chorke sidha Russia se Sukhoi 57 and 75 le Lena chahiye Bharat ko. European countries sab USA ke Ghulam hain. Kal ko yeh saman de kar palat jaye toh kya hoga. Thankfully Russia Aisa nahin karega. Because Russia needs India
Only two aircrafts are valid according to requirements ; 1. Rafale : Bcz already in service ( winner of MRFA 2.0 ). 2. Grippen : It is cheaper, coming with Complete transfer technology (except engine) & faster delivery.
Are u an idiot or what , even with these 114 jets squadron strength is going to get low as the retirement of several other platforms is coming . Even with domestic production we need additional 114 jets . Can stupid people like you understand for domestic production rivaling foreign countries its going to take atleast 15 years in r&d . Can indi afford 15 years of delay with china churning out jets like hot cakes .
Bhabha aur ISRO me karmath log hai lootere nahi, aur bureaucracy UPSC k IAS nahi hia. DRDO kewal lootna janata hai yaha UPSC ka IAS lootne ke bad jo bachta hai usme baki Kam hota hai, aur lootne ke bad kuchh nahi bachta.
Gripen kese mil jayega bhai usmay Jo engine lgta hai wo America se aayega ,to transfer tech kon si denge kyuki jada jarurat engine ki hai kyuki Tejas kabade ko bhi to banana hai
How long these tender so slow Indian government after 3 decades still looking for fighters plan tejas last 3 decades what’s going they’re looking for commission????
भारत तीन से चार देशों के साथ 114 फाइटर जेट्स की डील करेगा। जिसमें फ्रांस, रशिया, अमेरिका और जर्मनी के साथ होगी जो केवल भारत की शर्तों के साथ पूरी होगी।
Bharat ko apni jan laga dena chahiye apne swadesi 5 generation fighter jets banane ke liye......... engines par bhi kam jaruri hai.........R&D par bahut investment kariye😡😡😡😡
@@AnilVerma-qh9hm Research and design of an aircraft is not the same as merely assembly and tinkering with it. Just because you can put together a laptop 💻 computer with purchased and assembled parts does not mean you can create a microprocessor from scratch.
Rafael are expensive but it's the one and only options available bcoz considering present geopolitics any fighters having US parts should not be considered bcoz they could delay the delivery, gripen has US made engine, similarly Germany had a history of considering Human right issues and strong sanction mentality if they consider some nation doesn't obeying them. Any US fighter is not an options.
Vaise baat me point hai wo jab itne saste moon mission Mars mission successfully kar sakte hai to agar thodi technology mil jaye to bahot accha fighter jet bhi bana sakte hai
Bharat should stay away from those fighter jets who have american components. Bharat should work long terrm strategy onTejas-mark2, amca, 6th generation fighter jet and for short term deal with France and Russia with complete transfer of technology.
If we have to go for a fighter jet for MRFA why are we not going for a 5th gen fighter like Su57 and looking at 4.5 gen fighters, Amca will not come until 2035 and china is increasing production of j20 to new heights.
India shouldn't purchase anymore foreign fighter jets considering the present geopolitical situation. Self reliance is the key to sustain our degrading fleet strength.
Bharat must not accept or go with any offers we should make ourselves in order to become superpower only we need engine of technology so need to concentrate on this rest we can do ourselves.
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Swedish saab is a single engine, Eurofighter has multiple owner countries with decision making power to block. The USA has an arm twisting mentality. Rafael & Russian is available only after a decade.
Nice knowledge 😊
If there is ToT for any fighter it would be great for make in india and indegeneous fighter ecosytem.
Rafael will be delivered very late , India has already offer of Su-35, lets see what happens.
Even Rafael also packed with other countrie's order
If TOT happens then Eurofighter is not an bad option ...I think
Above all the engines in eurofighter and Saab are from GE. So America is dominantly in the game.
If GRIPEN uses GE ENGINE THEN THERE IS NO POINT CHOOSING IT. GE is not supplying engines to TEJAS
but there is a production unit available at sweden of GE engines..SAAB gripen E is a very good fighter jet.. it can take off from express way also very easily... easy maintenance ... cost is comparatively low...
@@Dilsebharat2023
GE will follow US laws which may be used to arm twist
@vigneshbabu547 rafale is very expensive now. And presently not available..due to international orders...so Eurofighter Typhoon is the only option...I think India made a blunder by withdrawing from SU 57 Program..
But Saab offered 100% technology transfer
India just need jet engine technology
Consumption of burnol is increasing, jai hind
Right
Thats the most difficult thing at present
Tejas mk2 se squadrons pura krna chahiye indian Govt ko.
Engine to US se mile kha se krde khangress krne nhi de rhi
Tejas mk2 tab banega jab ham khud ka engine bna lege aur Tejas mk2 devlopment stage me hai
SAAB Gripen is way more capable than any other Single engine fighter get
As a indian we should ashamed for not able to make fighter jet engine like chine and others only playing game 114 fighter jets for last 20 years
In 90s, China become ace in Reverse Engineering and immediate copy and paste. Brands like Sony Ericsson and Nokia face difficulties competing due to their black market.. Whereas, thanks to some politicians in India who are till to date, busy with freebies and appeasement. High time, India needs true meritocracy with good Visionary leaders instead of nepo-kids.
As long as Congress is in power we can't expect. It lacks leadership like Indira Gandhi, pranab Mukherjee etc
As an indian we are not able to make maggi masala yet. Nestle earned around 15 billion us dollar from india in 2024. And total deal of fighter is 20 billion us dollar😂. It’s collective failure of 140 million indians.
yes vote for Congress next time you will get a super jet engine immediately
Paying will be coming with commission for babus ..
Ye sab engine na hone ke karan hai 😢
Sahi hai Bhai 😢
The best option is to consolidate with Rafael... there's no point in getting into a new ecosystem...as maintenance costs would be astronomical. IAF is obviously aware of all this...the tender game is to get the best offer of the lot & get ToT , manufacturing set up in India & an engine deal.
With Saab Gripen what TOT are we talking about, they use imported GE engine, so do we, and the rest of the avionics india has already started developing on its own.
True and we have Tejas Mk2 which will be in same category of Gripen
Every 5 years our ias, politicians do this aircraft buying drama. At the end they will say cost is very high we can’t pay so much so we won’t buy.
कुछ नहीं से अच्छा थोड़ा-बहुत कम भी चलता है। वैसे स्वीडन की तकनीक उन्नत होती है। सबसे महत्वपूर्ण बात है कि ग्रीफन की आपूर्ति 24 फाइटर प्रति बर्ष होगी जो दसाल्ट कभी भी नहीं कभी नहीं कर सकता। वह भी समझौते के 3 बर्ष के भीतर। ToT 💯 % अलग।
Engine to America hi dega na.😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ha 🎉😂
Rafel me nahi
Saab is the way
5th generation SU 57 costs 50 million per unit, thats much lesser than typhoon 138 million per unit.
we should not buy 4th generation, its like nokia handset now
U dont need a bus to to the local grocery do u? The SU57 is a heavy aircraft. We are presently looking for multi role single engine light aircraft
@@ajitnairk010burnol is cheaper more sensible
I thinking India should go for Gripen because they will deliver it in shorter period of time and they will transfer 100% technology which will help India to develop its own engine in shorter time period.
go for saab
Euro Fighter Typhoon isn't german, they are combination of german UK Italian spain etc
Hume complete transfer of technology par dhyan dena chahiye.
Transfer of technology = 🪛
But
What has been finalised eventually -- can you tell ?
All these have been too complicated.
Who will do what finally .
WOW VERY NICE SIR WE NEEDS ADVANCE FITERJET AND BEST TECHNOLOGY THANK YOU SO MUCH 🔥 🙏
We should go with rafel .. and me can engine tot ..and many more benifits
It will take minimum 10 years. Only su 57 or indian tedbf
INDIA should ask USA for F-22, plus India and France should develop 6th generation fighter together.
Thanks Sir
Isn't Russian Su35 also in the tender?
Jai Bharat 🙏🙏
Rafale has production constraints as we might get after 7 years, and SAAB has a GE F414 engine (US) so that is also not an option, Su-35 is good but there might be sanctions, so Eurofighter can be given preference if they (all 4 countries agree) agree for ToT and IP rights, especially for Engine EZ-200 which we can use on Tejas Mk-1A and if we can increase its thrust by 10% then we can replace F414 in Tejas Mk2 as well. Of course, India can reduce the number of jets if Russia offers Su-57 with ToT of engine and weapon integration system so it can be given to both Eurofighter & Su-57
Engine ka full technology Jo de usi ka lena chahiye
Full milega only by developing the Kaveri.
ये, बोहित ज्यादा कम मतलब क्या ?
"बोहोत ज्यादा"..या
"बोहोत कम"..या फिर
बोहोतही कम !
Tender hi float karte rahenge
This deal never done ✅✅
तीनों कंपनियों से तीन तीन स्क्वाड्रन के प्लान खरीद लो जिससे 3 से 5 साल में अपने प्लेन की स्ट्रेंथ पूरी हो जाए
Eurofighter Typhoon has the best engine EJ 200s . It is better engine than both GE404 & GE 414 .
Jo bhi buy kare par engine should come handy with 100% transfer of technology.
Euro fighter.... ... ज्यादा जोगी मठ उजार 🎉
True
❤❤❤
Pls कुछ अपने देश में भी बना लो, युवकों को कुछ रोजगार मिल जाएगा, pls 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Euro fighter typhoon le lo
Canadian or American components used plane not to be part of deal becoz they don't provide then at time when required most , also sanction
Yeah sab chorke sidha Russia se Sukhoi 57 and 75 le Lena chahiye Bharat ko. European countries sab USA ke Ghulam hain. Kal ko yeh saman de kar palat jaye toh kya hoga. Thankfully Russia Aisa nahin karega. Because Russia needs India
Rafael & Su 57
France is giving Rafael to Kangladesh
Grippen Looks good with TOT & Customisation
They are bankrupt.
Doubt they can buy any planes or even a bus.
Ye deal kavi hogi hi nahi.
10;saal se sun rhe h
Trasfer of tech should b key term specially when it comes to engine
Transfer of tech = how to turn screwdriver 🪛
Technology transfer of burnol
The project will be completed in another 37 years
Gripen is aight aircraft wheres as euro is a multirole bigger aircraft.
America ek engine to time per delivery kar nhi paya Aaj tak 😂😂
But India Ko kuch nahi chahiye Sirf Time pass chahiye
Only two aircrafts are valid according to requirements ;
1. Rafale : Bcz already in service ( winner of MRFA 2.0 ).
2. Grippen : It is cheaper, coming with Complete transfer technology (except engine) & faster delivery.
Bhai grippen usa ka engine use krrha to obviously koi bharosa nhi
Aur uper se wo single engine hai
ये सब भरत को घुमा रहे है😂😂😂और भारत घूम रहा है
Gujarat bale pori duniya ko ghooma diye ha 😂
India indian ko ghuma raha h 4 saal se same news
Khud ka mat banao bus kharidte raho
Bol toh aaisa raha hai jaise khana bana be ka baat kr raha hai..
It takes years of R&D..
Rime lgega India ko..
Are u an idiot or what , even with these 114 jets squadron strength is going to get low as the retirement of several other platforms is coming . Even with domestic production we need additional 114 jets . Can stupid people like you understand for domestic production rivaling foreign countries its going to take atleast 15 years in r&d . Can indi afford 15 years of delay with china churning out jets like hot cakes .
@@sanketnegi1india main to free main ban jayegi naa 😀 koi research ki jarurat to hoti nahi hai. Roti- sabji banane jaisa easy hai😂
@manishagrawal5722 भाई नल्लो को समझाना आसान काम नहीं...
😂😂😂😂
only saab and euro fighter available within 3 years after signing contract
...and MK1A.
No point buying the other stuff.
कभी हमारे पास अटॉमिक बॉम्ब भी नहीं था, तो फिर ये इंजन क्या है. कोशिश करो, भागो नही, युवकों को रोजगार भी मिल जाएगा 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Bhabha aur ISRO me karmath log hai lootere nahi, aur bureaucracy UPSC k IAS nahi hia.
DRDO kewal lootna janata hai yaha UPSC ka IAS lootne ke bad jo bachta hai usme baki Kam hota hai, aur lootne ke bad kuchh nahi bachta.
Gripen kese mil jayega bhai usmay Jo engine lgta hai wo America se aayega ,to transfer tech kon si denge kyuki jada jarurat engine ki hai kyuki Tejas kabade ko bhi to banana hai
we need emgine
How long these tender so slow Indian government after 3 decades still looking for fighters plan tejas last 3 decades what’s going they’re looking for commission????
Let's talk transfer of technology of aeroengine with fighter jets
Transfer of Technology = 🪛
$20 billion 💵 --> 💸
😢
भारत तीन से चार देशों के साथ 114 फाइटर जेट्स की डील करेगा। जिसमें फ्रांस, रशिया, अमेरिका और जर्मनी के साथ होगी जो केवल भारत की शर्तों के साथ पूरी होगी।
why is Russia not participating in this?
Tejas ko koi free mein bhi nahi le raha
Isse accha Russia se engine ki tech kharid lo aur aur amca mai lagao
Bharat ko apni jan laga dena chahiye apne swadesi 5 generation fighter jets banane ke liye......... engines par bhi kam jaruri hai.........R&D par bahut investment kariye😡😡😡😡
Tender per tendnder change hoga aur kursi main baitha gender pe gender change hoga but MMRCA is a filmy story .
Oh no su 57. I have heared a news that russia is going to offer su 57 with full technology transfer even engine technology transfer
Only technology transfer is how to assemble with screw 🪛 driver.
@mtrest4 who told you ? Even source code is going to be provided by the Russia for su 57
@@AnilVerma-qh9hm
Research and design of an aircraft is not the same as merely assembly and tinkering with it.
Just because you can put together a laptop 💻 computer with purchased and assembled parts does not mean you can create a microprocessor from scratch.
@@mtrest4 right then u will have to wait upto 2047 for amca , lca Tejask2 and tedbf. Till date not 6 th 7 th gen fighter engine will be available
Hum bahar se fighter jet kyon lete ho. Khud ka hona chahiye
ab le bhi lo bhot ho gayi window shopping
Old news 😂😂😂
Ameeron ka molbhao 😂
Only fifth generation jets .should be inducted. What we saw in offer is all out dated.
Rafael are expensive but it's the one and only options available bcoz considering present geopolitics any fighters having US parts should not be considered bcoz they could delay the delivery, gripen has US made engine, similarly Germany had a history of considering Human right issues and strong sanction mentality if they consider some nation doesn't obeying them. Any US fighter is not an options.
Burnol would be most suitable
how after independence still we don't have these aircraft technology??? thanks to congress for their -work
Kaveri engine,tehas fighter development got sanctioned after 1999.
2016 congress govt tendered 100 rafale jets its ndas govt who bought just 36
🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
20 billion ishro ko dedo ..achha wala banayenge 😂
Specifically DRDO ko.
@thefinacleone1855 yes
Vaise baat me point hai wo jab itne saste moon mission Mars mission successfully kar sakte hai to agar thodi technology mil jaye to bahot accha fighter jet bhi bana sakte hai
@@ShashwatSingh-v2n atleast research ke liye toh badhana chahiye ..
@@SILVERKAMI Ha Research opportunities India me kaam hai Sab log foreign bhag jate hai yaha se
No grripen please because American engine looks for euro fighter and f-21
Ye deal tab hoge jaab ma budda ho jayuga
Bharat should stay away from those fighter jets who have american components. Bharat should work long terrm strategy onTejas-mark2, amca, 6th generation fighter jet and for short term deal with France and Russia with complete transfer of technology.
f21 ki technology mil jaye to maja aa jaega
15 year se ye deal chak rahi h😂 aaj tak yahi sunte aaya hu ye deel ish janam me hogi ki nahi 😂😂😂😂
Su 57
Ask air force first if they want jets or not 😂
Air force wants burnol
If we have to go for a fighter jet for MRFA why are we not going for a 5th gen fighter like Su57 and looking at 4.5 gen fighters, Amca will not come until 2035 and china is increasing production of j20 to new heights.
India shouldn't purchase anymore foreign fighter jets considering the present geopolitical situation. Self reliance is the key to sustain our degrading fleet strength.
Yes 100%.
F 35B fighter jet lena chahiye.
The same thing happened with Rafale and government purchaed it with double price.
F21 is obsolete fighter jet, based on F16 introduced in 1978.
We should go for the best offer for our interest with full tot.
One thing we can do is increase the number of craft and without taking any technology we can say just give the fighter jet engine technology...
vhi to main cheez h bhai, koi nhi dega easily.
What is the difference between sub gripen and Tejas ,,
Possible owner of this race may be Rafael or Rafael 60 hornets 40 .
rafal , Saab ya f21
Worthless analysis Sir
Ek kam karte hai 3 gen ka fighter jet double kardi leta hai ....ban gaya 6 gen ka ka fighter jet 😂
तूफान ही लेना है 💪
25 Saal se apna tejas kyon nahi tayyar ho raha.hai
Bhai last 20 saal ma nahi hua next 20 saal ma nahi hoga deal
Sab deal denge aur india russia ko support karega to delivery aur spare parts me delay kar denge
Bharat must not accept or go with any offers we should make ourselves in order to become superpower only we need engine of technology so need to concentrate on this rest we can do ourselves.
सबसे निक्कमी सरकार. इन्होने तो तेजस project की ही बाट लगा दी 😂😂😂😂
Pta nahi😂😂kb khareed paenge ye log ...kb se yhi khabar sun rha hun
Jab yudh suru ho jayga tab denge order 😂....ki bhaisaab bana dena thode se 😂
😂😂🤣🤣🥲
F-35 hee sai h ...agar lokheed Martin offer krti h hai to