Workhorse is a sister brand of Primitive Pits. Everything JD and their team are doing in GA is helping to spread the love for handcrafted barbecue. Their offset smokers are the beating heart of our operation at 2fifty BBQ. One of my Pitmasters bought one 1975 and everything Jeremy says here is accurate. Another amazing, informative video. Thank you!
Been looking at buying this smoker for a while now. Thanks for breaking it down in this detailed review! You can’t beat that 3/8s steel. I think this solidified my decision to go with the 1975T!
I emailed them to inquire and they said they don't take custom requests in their automated response. Can you add any more context to this? I would really like to order one but only if this is true.
@@ragnarlothbrok6240 I believe it was on a FB post, but I can’t find it right now, I’m sitting on an airplane. Anyway it’s a 1” fitting, get a 1”short nipple and a ball valve from Amazon, Lowes, Home Depot. Some have added a 45° or 90°. It’s a couple of bucks if you need it. I have the std 1975. I don’t use one and just set a bucket under it to drain. It’s REALLY easy to move on a flat surface. Jeremy recommended the 1975 to me in July of 2021.
It’s just a 3/4” coupling welded on there. You can to any hardware store get a 3/4” nipple and a ball valve to screw in there. Just like you screw in the plug that it’s comes with.
Only one you issues why in the world 🌎 you can cut the one inch lower make bottom shelf slide to ? And from fire box to cook chamber putting half inch lip so the grease won’t drip and firebox ?
The folding stack is really a great feature, so don't listen to Jeremy on this :-) The cover you can and should purchase for this fits with the stack folded down. In addition to it making it more compact for storage, I'm also guessing it saved some material costs on the cover. Nevertheless, Primitive, Workhorse's sister company and predecessor, does folding stacks, so I'm guessing they adopted it from them. It is a feature common an large trailer pits. I think it's a great feature, even on a "backyard" pit.
@@joeybonanotte3850 I have a flagstone patio. It's not hard it needs some strength. If yiu are moving the smoker from a garage to a drive way it should not be hard it rolls smoothly. Don't get the metal caster what ever you do. If you plan on on moving the smoker on grass the the 8 inch hard rubber casters will sink into the turf ( It's a theft prevention lol ) the smoker is 900 pounds so if your driveway is steep you will need to guys to keep it from rolling down the drive way.
How close are you able to put food to the firebox without it getting burned. I've been looking at the 1975 for a while and wondering how many inches I would be losing and cook surface. And do you use a water pan
I was waiting for this review, but I was on vacation with crap internet when this vid dropped. I feel late to the party. I’m loving my 1975. I picked her up late Feb this year.
Hello everyone. I ordered mine May 24, 2021 and got it Oct 31, 2021 and I paid $3000, including shipping to Texas. I purchased the one with casters, since it will never leave my backyard. As far as the cover, I opted to get one from Amazon-(it's on sale right now for $100) and it fits very well (Classic Accessories Veranda Water-Resistant BBQ Grill Cover for 98 Inch Island with Left or Right Grill Head). Cooks great and I could not be happier.
thanks for the tip on the cover, I ordered my 1975 last week but opted to NOT order the $400 cover, figured I could find something somewhere that would fit...
Great review Jeremy. I found this a couple weeks before you started posting videos on it and I've been sitting on the fence, but I think your endorsement is going to sell them some smokers. Just placed my order so I'm not #501 in line. Been on a Kamado Joe for a little over a year and your videos are the best resource out there to get good fast at smoking. Thank you for all your help. Looking forward to start stick burning!
“computational fluid dynamics", Workhorse/Primitive Pits, has spent more money on research and development then any other pit manufacturer, (according to the owner) on how air flows through an offset. Its called computational fluid dynamics, and all that R & D shows in every single one of their pits' performance in keeping a +/- of 5 degrees (again, according to the owner) So it's no surprise they all run as well as they do. The owner has a channel called Quetorials and the vid in where he talks about all this is something like watch this video before purchasing an offset or along those lines. No disrespect meant to Jeremy, however since this is a video on workhorse Pits, I figured it was cool to mention their channel as anyone interested in their pits could watch them. Cheers Jeremy!
Welp, after months of warring with my better judgement, it is done. Looks like a Georgia road trip sometime in January is in my future. Edit: I gotta imagine that between Jeremy and Offset Rookie, Workhorse owes these gentlemen a couple of free hats. I think I've memorized Offset's "10 Reasons" video and Yoder broke my will with this one.
Hey Jeremy- why did you move away from testing the modified Brazos (what most of us can afford) against the Franklin? Just curious. These are fantastic smokers but more than I want to pay, especially when larger smokers on trailers are available on market place and Craigslist.
@@slowfuse I get it. I mean I cook on the regular for big groups of folks on a large trailer offset but for the backyard, 4k is not something I’m willing to spend, and I’d be willing to bet not many other viewers would either. I think Jeremy’s content is great. Just want to see him follow through on what he mentioned on previous videos which was the Modified Brazos vs the Franklin or some other comparable more expensive offset.
@@johnroberson1986 Yea I feel you on the price man. But trust me when I say workhorse are selling their offset smokers way cheaper than most companies with best quality I tell you. 1975 is costing me $3,600 with the firebox, extra rack and shipping. They're also cheaper ones like 69 or 57 that can cost you around $2k+. The Mill scale Jeremy mentioned will cost you around $6,385 and it's only a 1/4" steel.
I have the 1969 on casters and I wish the grease drain was closer to the firebox. The firebox is super heavy so it leans ever so slightly towards the firebox which means not all the grease makes it to the drain. I'll probably get a scissor jack to level it out during cooks.
My order is for the standard version with 4 casters. A trailer, or even the wagon version, would be impossible to get into my back yard without a crane (or convincing two neighbors to let me tear down part of their fences and drive it through their yards). I've already been thinking about the door weight. I ordered the upper rack on mine, which means it has two more threaded holes for upper thermometers. Since I always use a wireless thermometer, I don't really need them. I figure I could get some steel to make a counterweight and use those threaded holes to attach it.
If you have to move it over grass get 3 sheet of plywood or OSB. Even with the 8 inch casters it will dig or sink into the turf. I also had to use a tow strap and ratchet strap to get it over the flag atone step stones I have in my back patio.
I think Fat Stack builds a one or two a week. Good smoker. Workhorse was putting out 20 per week with this quality when I got mine and zero regrets. I think they are building way more per week now.
The selection of smokers here in Norway is beyond awful, but this one is actually available. I had a look at it in the shop, and I must say, it looks one hell of a solid unit. Now to convince the wife that this is a mandatory purchase....
I went with the 1975 because of build and total cost. My original choice was Lone Star Grillz. But for what you get for the money. Workhorse 1975 was a no-brainer. I love this smoker. It is the easiest stick smoker to cook on.
Would love to see more content on this smoker! Out of all the ones on the market, this is a great deal. JD and team are doing great things in North GA! Thanks for the vid!
Workhorse Pits's shop is about 15 minutes from my house so I drove up this morning to day to get a first hand look at their smokers in the various sizes and configurations available. I was really curious as to how difficult it might be to lift the cabinet door given that I'll be turning 60 in a few days and I'm only 5' 6" and 160 lbs. As it turns out, I was able to open the chamber door on the 1975t without difficulty. If anything my short stature was probably the bigger challenge as it was almost a full stretch to get the lid all the way back to it's open resting position. Maybe in 10 years, when I'm 70 years old and a 1/2" shorter, opening and closing the door will become a problem, but not today. I was also able to push the 1975t around on its trailer, which gave be confidence that it wouldn't be any trouble manually pushing and maneuvering it into position in my garage.
I have an old country wrangler. I believe this is my next pit. I want the normal 1975 model though. I’m having trouble with my wrangler burning the bottom of my food. I can’t wait to get my workhorse, as soon as I can convince my wife it’s a necessity lol
Jeremy I'd love it if you could review the Yoder Kingman. I'm a Kansas kid so i'm a fan of Yoder and i'm also curious about what you'd think about the heat management plate in it. I have one of their pellet smokers and i want an offset now. Love your channel luv Ky, I lived an worked in Lexington back in 04-06. Thank-you
Got my 1975 three months ago after waiting 5 months to get it. No trailer model needed. I’ve done 4 cooks on it so far. Still learning fire management. Can’t achieve the five degree difference across the grates as workhorse pits claims. I’m sure it’s me. It’s a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. I keep it in my garage uncovered. It should last 3-4 generations. Cheers!!
Try these tips and you'll get even temps throughout the whole cook: 14 inch splits so they can lay front-to-back, so the entire fire/flames are near the firebox door. 14 inch ensures the entire split lays on the coal bed for an even burn, and less manipulation of the fire. Use the firebox door cracked about an inch, not the bowtie (bowtie was required by insurance for backyard model and causes the flames to be sucked more into the chamber), this helps with less radiant heat on the food too. Limit wind - back pressure from wind coming towards the stack make temps by the firebox 20 degrees hotter. I clip a 2ftx2ft piece of wood to the top of the stack if windy and the wind doesn't come into the stack.
@@halomaster9640 Get the 1975t. Everything built by primitive pits and workhorse pits is built to standards way above the industry. You won’t go wrong with the 1975 trailer model. Cheers!!
Love everything about your videos, Jeremy. Content. Production. Great stuff! It's looking like my 1975t will be ready for pickup in September. Question - Do you build your fire in the workhorse directly on the bottom of the firebox,or do you recommend using a grate to allow for additional airflow?
Mine will be ready in November(ordered May 4). I spent a good amount of time researching different brands...Millscale, LSG, Workhorse, and several others. The Workhorse is by far the best value out there, and without sacrificing anything. After all of the add-ons, which puts some of these premium pits well over $5k, and then taking into consideration all of the features of each, Workhorse beats any of them by a mile. The only drawback to the Workhorse is it probably has the longest lead time of any of them, so if you're in the market, get on it now. I was looking forward to seeing your review of this pit, Jeremy. Even more happy I went with Workhorse.
Jeremy, thanks for the review. My workhorse 1975 on casters is going into production in July! Can’t wait. Buying all the accessories over the last 6 months. FYI I’m looking to sell my M1 reverse flow smoker/charcoal/ grill. Very versatile grill . Looking for $1000. New is $3000
The 4:48 mark... "If you're gonna have other ppl who need to open this door"... What???... You don't open another man's pit.. That's a big no no here in Texas
I've been looking at getting this exact model. I currently use a pellet smoker and kamado smoker. Been getting into catering and pop ups and wanted an offset on a trailer. This seems like the perfect size. Your review makes me want it even more!
Super curious now that you’ve cooked on all these high end pits, how do feel the Brazos stacks up now? Has your opinion on that changed? Still waiting for you video on how you like the mods you did to the Brazos too.
Jeremy when you get a chance can you do a review on a reverse flow, would love to see you review a Shirley fabrication, have you cooked on one and what are your thoughts on it?
I’m so glad you did this review. I’ve been on the fence about which stick burner to get for months and I’ve been super interested in this one but needed a good honest review
Good review. Was going to be my choice but COVID was mean so I built my own and shamelessly copied it as best I could after learning all I could from you, JD, Bradly, Franklin, and all I could watch or read. I would never build one to sell and I am saving my allowance for a primitive pits 500 trailer cause fair is fair. I built mine without the top rack for maximum convection, no regrets.
Ordered mine a week or 2 ago, I did lots of homework, pricing pits and couldn't find anything close to what i got a 1975 for. Everything else of this quality was $1000 or more expensive. I didn't want cheap but i wasn't fool enough to pay that much more for a similar pit.
I did a ton of research too - specs, weight, etc and nothing came close. Wait to you see it in person, those welds! I've had neighbors, welders, and several contractors comment on the quality as being the best welding they've ever seen.
Get it for sure just for ease of starting your fires and cleaning the firebox. But the real reason to get it is to reverse sear some ribeyes. I smoke 3.5 inch ribeyes fire 2 hours then sear on the cowboy grill. That sweet wood flavor can’t be replicated any other way.
I have one with the wagon package. It cost less than the trailered version and is really easy to move around the yard. Highly recommend it to anyone out there looking for a great pit.
Ordered a 1975 with the Wagon package back in end of November, should be getting it soon, really excited, haven’t heard or seen a bad review and the excellent build quality is always mentioned. Great videos as always.
I wouldn't mind seeing a review of the 1969 myself. Having said that, I have a 1975t on order even though I'll mostly just be cooking for two, as my wife and I are empty nesters. My reasoning? It's my first smoker and I am convinced that as Jeremy has noted that it will be easier to maintain the fire and temperature on the 24" vs 20" diameter smoker. Plus, I wanted the trailer, even though I think the wagon is pretty kick ass. And I've found that my smoked pork and chicken freeze well, so I'll probably just load it up anyhow.
Have you had a chance to review or try out a Mill Scale smoker? That's the brand the #1 restaurant in TX (Goldee's BBQ in Kennedale near Ft Worth) uses... ah, wait, at 11:34 you mention talking to someone that had a Mill Scale 94 ...
We are looking at purchasing an offset smoker. The Franklin is more expensive than we have in our budget. We are looking at $2-4 thousand. One option we have looked at is the Lang offset smokers. How does the Workhorse brand compare to Lang?
I've noticed that the door on the OLD COUNTRY BRAZOS is 3/16" steel and not 1/4" like the rest of the chamber. Has it always been this way? I was going to buy one until I noticed. I like the size of the Workhorse 1969 but it's a bit out of my price range at the moment.
Question how come you can’t use a charcoal basket on these yet on a outlaw smoker it’s preferred to use one and majority of the best bbq professionals use outlaws with charcoal
If you’d do traveling BBQ classes I’d sign up Imagine all the networking you’d accomplish and cash you can make. Not to mention take your channel with you and meet your fans I’m in South Texas and would love to meet ya
I would be curious to see a shoot-out between this cooker, the FatStack 80, the Franklin, and the Carlisle 85, that I hear is a respectful smoker as well.
As far as adding the ball valve. You can go to any hardware store get a nipple and a ball valve. That is a standard coupling just welded on the bottom of the cooker. Looks to be 3/4”.
I know you have done lots of reviews on offsets. But I would love for you to do a review on the chargrilled grande champ Xd from Home Depot. They say it is better than old country pecos would like to see what you think.
I built a smoker out of a 3/8 thick pipe and the door was super heavy too. I welded an arm off the back with a pulley on top. I have a steel cable attached to the door that goes over the pulley to a 50lb weight that slides in a track. Sort of like a davit. Its night and day difference.
Top slides out. Bottom does not, which is a bit of a bummer. The other knock on the 1975t is that it does not have a shelf option. Nevertheless, I'm getting one.
FYI, the handles on that damper are also legs for the stack when you fold it down so it's level.
Workhorse is a sister brand of Primitive Pits. Everything JD and their team are doing in GA is helping to spread the love for handcrafted barbecue. Their offset smokers are the beating heart of our operation at 2fifty BBQ. One of my Pitmasters bought one 1975 and everything Jeremy says here is accurate. Another amazing, informative video. Thank you!
2Fifty is the best!
Been looking at buying this smoker for a while now. Thanks for breaking it down in this detailed review! You can’t beat that 3/8s steel. I think this solidified my decision to go with the 1975T!
Got one !! Love it 💯
Jeremy, thanks for the review. FYI Work Horse says they are adding a ball valve to the production.
I emailed them to inquire and they said they don't take custom requests in their automated response. Can you add any more context to this? I would really like to order one but only if this is true.
@@ragnarlothbrok6240 I believe it was on a FB post, but I can’t find it right now, I’m sitting on an airplane. Anyway it’s a 1” fitting, get a 1”short nipple and a ball valve from Amazon, Lowes, Home Depot. Some have added a 45° or 90°. It’s a couple of bucks if you need it. I have the std 1975. I don’t use one and just set a bucket under it to drain. It’s REALLY easy to move on a flat surface. Jeremy recommended the 1975 to me in July of 2021.
@@ragnarlothbrok6240 I think I spent 35 bucks on a ball valve and adaptor on Amazon. Super easy and cheap
It’s just a 3/4” coupling welded on there. You can to any hardware store get a 3/4” nipple and a ball valve to screw in there. Just like you screw in the plug that it’s comes with.
@@kuerzdogg5052 It’s 1”
The fact that you bought one, says enough. 🍻
Now that you have fully tested out this 1975T, will you do another comparison video of the 1975 v. Fastback 120 v. Franklin? Would love to see that!
I pulled my 1975t from Georgia back to Nebraska last November. It pulls great for a small trailer.
Got twisted on Memorial Day and ordered one. Best stoned purchase of my life…December production date. Time to test the patience..
Nothing better than getting twisted and smoking on my 1975. Smoking and smoking goes together
@@mikerein5854 😂😂 Cheers, mate
Only one you issues why in the world 🌎 you can cut the one inch lower make bottom shelf slide to ?
And from fire box to cook chamber putting half inch lip so the grease won’t drip and firebox ?
Where can I purchase 1. I've been following your channel for several years, always fantastic advice and knowledge.
The folding stack is really a great feature, so don't listen to Jeremy on this :-) The cover you can and should purchase for this fits with the stack folded down. In addition to it making it more compact for storage, I'm also guessing it saved some material costs on the cover. Nevertheless, Primitive, Workhorse's sister company and predecessor, does folding stacks, so I'm guessing they adopted it from them. It is a feature common an large trailer pits. I think it's a great feature, even on a "backyard" pit.
Agree. My garage door opening (which is pretty standard) is 82" high, so at 84", this smoker would not fit with the stack not folded down.
Are you gonna compare this one to the TMG Volunteer??
I have a 1975 with the 8 inch hard rubber casters. It was delivered September 2021. I love this smoker. I smoke when ever I can rain or shine.
Is it easy to move around? I'm looking to move it in and out of the garage (roughly 20 feet)?
It would be on concrete the entire time.
@@joeybonanotte3850 once it’s moving it’s pretty easy to move.
It shouldn't be a problem unless you're having to push it uphill
@@joeybonanotte3850 I have a flagstone patio. It's not hard it needs some strength. If yiu are moving the smoker from a garage to a drive way it should not be hard it rolls smoothly. Don't get the metal caster what ever you do. If you plan on on moving the smoker on grass the the 8 inch hard rubber casters will sink into the turf ( It's a theft prevention lol ) the smoker is 900 pounds so if your driveway is steep you will need to guys to keep it from rolling down the drive way.
I've bn lookn @ this 1975t for awhile & I'm digging it... This wld make a perfect size backyard / travel smoker 4 me.. Good work Jeremy
Nice video. I’ve had my 1975 for about a year and I really like it. Draws like crazy and love the oversized firebox
How close are you able to put food to the firebox without it getting burned. I've been looking at the 1975 for a while and wondering how many inches I would be losing and cook surface. And do you use a water pan
I was waiting for this review, but I was on vacation with crap internet when this vid dropped.
I feel late to the party.
I’m loving my 1975. I picked her up late Feb this year.
Have you received your 1975t yet? I just ordered a 1975W yesterday.
Hello everyone. I ordered mine May 24, 2021 and got it Oct 31, 2021 and I paid $3000, including shipping to Texas. I purchased the one with casters, since it will never leave my backyard. As far as the cover, I opted to get one from Amazon-(it's on sale right now for $100) and it fits very well (Classic Accessories Veranda Water-Resistant BBQ Grill Cover for 98 Inch Island with Left or Right Grill Head). Cooks great and I could not be happier.
thanks for the tip on the cover, I ordered my 1975 last week but opted to NOT order the $400 cover, figured I could find something somewhere that would fit...
Great review Jeremy. I found this a couple weeks before you started posting videos on it and I've been sitting on the fence, but I think your endorsement is going to sell them some smokers. Just placed my order so I'm not #501 in line. Been on a Kamado Joe for a little over a year and your videos are the best resource out there to get good fast at smoking. Thank you for all your help. Looking forward to start stick burning!
“computational fluid dynamics", Workhorse/Primitive Pits, has spent more money on research and development then any other pit manufacturer, (according to the owner) on how air flows through an offset. Its called computational fluid dynamics, and all that R & D shows in every single one of their pits' performance in keeping a +/- of 5 degrees (again, according to the owner) So it's no surprise they all run as well as they do. The owner has a channel called Quetorials and the vid in where he talks about all this is something like watch this video before purchasing an offset or along those lines. No disrespect meant to Jeremy, however since this is a video on workhorse Pits, I figured it was cool to mention their channel as anyone interested in their pits could watch them. Cheers Jeremy!
Welp, after months of warring with my better judgement, it is done. Looks like a Georgia road trip sometime in January is in my future.
Edit: I gotta imagine that between Jeremy and Offset Rookie, Workhorse owes these gentlemen a couple of free hats. I think I've memorized Offset's "10 Reasons" video and Yoder broke my will with this one.
haha Thanks so much, glad you find them useful 😀🍻
why do you sound like Bruce Campbell tho?
Hey Jeremy- why did you move away from testing the modified Brazos (what most of us can afford) against the Franklin? Just curious. These are fantastic smokers but more than I want to pay, especially when larger smokers on trailers are available on market place and Craigslist.
quality becomes important once you start taking things seriously
@@slowfuse I get it. I mean I cook on the regular for big groups of folks on a large trailer offset but for the backyard, 4k is not something I’m willing to spend, and I’d be willing to bet not many other viewers would either. I think Jeremy’s content is great. Just want to see him follow through on what he mentioned on previous videos which was the Modified Brazos vs the Franklin or some other comparable more expensive offset.
Raleighsmoke has videos like you are describing.
@@emcalone thanks! I’ll check it out!
@@johnroberson1986 Yea I feel you on the price man. But trust me when I say workhorse are selling their offset smokers way cheaper than most companies with best quality I tell you. 1975 is costing me $3,600 with the firebox, extra rack and shipping. They're also cheaper ones like 69 or 57 that can cost you around $2k+. The Mill scale Jeremy mentioned will cost you around $6,385 and it's only a 1/4" steel.
Excellent review. Thoughtful and detailed for those in the market for a backyard pit that will last a lifetime with minimal effort. Thanks Jeremy!
Adding the Drain Valve of your choice is Simple - you have the Threaded Collar that the Plug screws into just substitute for a Valve!
I have the 1969 on casters and I wish the grease drain was closer to the firebox. The firebox is super heavy so it leans ever so slightly towards the firebox which means not all the grease makes it to the drain. I'll probably get a scissor jack to level it out during cooks.
My order is for the standard version with 4 casters. A trailer, or even the wagon version, would be impossible to get into my back yard without a crane (or convincing two neighbors to let me tear down part of their fences and drive it through their yards).
I've already been thinking about the door weight. I ordered the upper rack on mine, which means it has two more threaded holes for upper thermometers. Since I always use a wireless thermometer, I don't really need them. I figure I could get some steel to make a counterweight and use those threaded holes to attach it.
I ordered mine the same way last week for similar reasons. No way a trailer or wagon was going behind the house.
Ditto. Trailer wouldn’t fit into backyard without tearing out a wrought iron fence, gate is too small.
If you have to move it over grass get 3 sheet of plywood or OSB. Even with the 8 inch casters it will dig or sink into the turf. I also had to use a tow strap and ratchet strap to get it over the flag atone step stones I have in my back patio.
Really hoping JD doesn't get fatstacked from this, and ends up with a lead time going to 2026 😂
I think Fat Stack builds a one or two a week. Good smoker. Workhorse was putting out 20 per week with this quality when I got mine and zero regrets. I think they are building way more per week now.
are you still getting your Workhorse? Not heard a peep since your review...
He got it. His brother is using it at the moment I believe.
The selection of smokers here in Norway is beyond awful, but this one is actually available. I had a look at it in the shop, and I must say, it looks one hell of a solid unit. Now to convince the wife that this is a mandatory purchase....
Love my 75! Well worth the wait! Ive cooked on several different smokers and I'm most satisfied with the WH 1975!
I went with the 1975 because of build and total cost. My original choice was Lone Star Grillz. But for what you get for the money. Workhorse 1975 was a no-brainer. I love this smoker. It is the easiest stick smoker to cook on.
I have cooked 25 degree weather no problems.
Folding stack is probably for ease of covering with a tarp
This is by far my favorite channel. Jeremy explains things and reviews thing so well.
Thanks for all the info. I ordered today. Due to inflation it's much more expensive but when you want something of high quality you pay for it
Would love to see more content on this smoker! Out of all the ones on the market, this is a great deal. JD and team are doing great things in North GA! Thanks for the vid!
Workhorse Pits's shop is about 15 minutes from my house so I drove up this morning to day to get a first hand look at their smokers in the various sizes and configurations available. I was really curious as to how difficult it might be to lift the cabinet door given that I'll be turning 60 in a few days and I'm only 5' 6" and 160 lbs. As it turns out, I was able to open the chamber door on the 1975t without difficulty. If anything my short stature was probably the bigger challenge as it was almost a full stretch to get the lid all the way back to it's open resting position. Maybe in 10 years, when I'm 70 years old and a 1/2" shorter, opening and closing the door will become a problem, but not today. I was also able to push the 1975t around on its trailer, which gave be confidence that it wouldn't be any trouble manually pushing and maneuvering it into position in my garage.
Better and cheaper than a millscale.
I ordered this two weeks ago. The 8 month wait sucks. But they say it’s worth the wait.
I have an old country wrangler. I believe this is my next pit. I want the normal 1975 model though. I’m having trouble with my wrangler burning the bottom of my food. I can’t wait to get my workhorse, as soon as I can convince my wife it’s a necessity lol
Jeremy I'd love it if you could review the Yoder Kingman. I'm a Kansas kid so i'm a fan of Yoder and i'm also curious about what you'd think about the heat management plate in it. I have one of their pellet smokers and i want an offset now. Love your channel luv Ky, I lived an worked in Lexington back in 04-06. Thank-you
just placed my order for 1975. production is predicted to start in November. stoked can't wait to cook on this beast
Out of all the available offset pits, that I've seen, this is the one I wanted to get.
Got my 1975 three months ago after waiting 5 months to get it. No trailer model needed. I’ve done 4 cooks on it so far. Still learning fire management. Can’t achieve the five degree difference across the grates as workhorse pits claims. I’m sure it’s me. It’s a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. I keep it in my garage uncovered. It should last 3-4 generations. Cheers!!
Try these tips and you'll get even temps throughout the whole cook: 14 inch splits so they can lay front-to-back, so the entire fire/flames are near the firebox door. 14 inch ensures the entire split lays on the coal bed for an even burn, and less manipulation of the fire. Use the firebox door cracked about an inch, not the bowtie (bowtie was required by insurance for backyard model and causes the flames to be sucked more into the chamber), this helps with less radiant heat on the food too. Limit wind - back pressure from wind coming towards the stack make temps by the firebox 20 degrees hotter. I clip a 2ftx2ft piece of wood to the top of the stack if windy and the wind doesn't come into the stack.
@@mikerein5854 Thanks Mike! Will give the a try on my next cook. I appreciate the advice!
@@Isovapor you're welcome!
@@halomaster9640 My 1975 lives in my garage. I didn’t plan on traveling with it so I didn’t get the 1975 mounted on a trailer.
@@halomaster9640 Get the 1975t. Everything built by primitive pits and workhorse pits is built to standards way above the industry. You won’t go wrong with the 1975 trailer model. Cheers!!
What size threads are on that plug? Can’t you just get a male thread ball valve?
Love everything about your videos, Jeremy. Content. Production. Great stuff! It's looking like my 1975t will be ready for pickup in September. Question - Do you build your fire in the workhorse directly on the bottom of the firebox,or do you recommend using a grate to allow for additional airflow?
Mine will be ready in November(ordered May 4). I spent a good amount of time researching different brands...Millscale, LSG, Workhorse, and several others. The Workhorse is by far the best value out there, and without sacrificing anything. After all of the add-ons, which puts some of these premium pits well over $5k, and then taking into consideration all of the features of each, Workhorse beats any of them by a mile. The only drawback to the Workhorse is it probably has the longest lead time of any of them, so if you're in the market, get on it now. I was looking forward to seeing your review of this pit, Jeremy. Even more happy I went with Workhorse.
Hey James, did you consider a Shirley fabrication reverse flow smoker. Patio or trailer model
Jeremy, thanks for the review. My workhorse 1975 on casters is going into production in July! Can’t wait. Buying all the accessories over the last 6 months. FYI I’m looking to sell my M1 reverse flow smoker/charcoal/ grill. Very versatile grill . Looking for $1000. New is $3000
I’m planning to either order 3/8” or 1/4” for my offset in 24” diameter. Any reason I shouldn’t do 3/8”?
The 4:48 mark... "If you're gonna have other ppl who need to open this door"... What???... You don't open another man's pit.. That's a big no no here in Texas
I've been looking at getting this exact model. I currently use a pellet smoker and kamado smoker. Been getting into catering and pop ups and wanted an offset on a trailer. This seems like the perfect size. Your review makes me want it even more!
when are you getting your 1975 delivered?
When are you going to try a Chud box?
You basically have to hang clean that door to open it. Lol
In a time of disposable $1k cell phones, for something like this $4k is pocket change.
THis is how I will sell this to my wife. Thanks.
Whats better? This (1975) or Yoder kingman?
Super curious now that you’ve cooked on all these high end pits, how do feel the Brazos stacks up now? Has your opinion on that changed? Still waiting for you video on how you like the mods you did to the Brazos too.
The folding stack is great for storing the pit under a cover.
I wouldn't mind having it, but I don't I can hide the 4K LOL (only about? LOL)
Jeremy when you get a chance can you do a review on a reverse flow, would love to see you review a Shirley fabrication, have you cooked on one and what are your thoughts on it?
Why not have levelers on the trailer to keep tires off the ground and to level the smoker?
I added my own ball valve to mine! Definitely a beast of a cooker! I’ve had mine since October and I’ve loved every minute of it!
What size ball valve did you use
I’m in Cartersville, GA What ball joint did you get?
I’m so glad you did this review. I’ve been on the fence about which stick burner to get for months and I’ve been super interested in this one but needed a good honest review
You won't be disappointed. Really easy to use, cooks amazing bbq
Good review. Was going to be my choice but COVID was mean so I built my own and shamelessly copied it as best I could after learning all I could from you, JD, Bradly, Franklin, and all I could watch or read. I would never build one to sell and I am saving my allowance for a primitive pits 500 trailer cause fair is fair. I built mine without the top rack for maximum convection, no regrets.
How much did you have in building one yourself with the same specs?
Being that the workhorse is considerably less than the others, I wasn't sure if it would be worth the time
Ordered mine a week or 2 ago, I did lots of homework, pricing pits and couldn't find anything close to what i got a 1975 for. Everything else of this quality was $1000 or more expensive. I didn't want cheap but i wasn't fool enough to pay that much more for a similar pit.
I did a ton of research too - specs, weight, etc and nothing came close. Wait to you see it in person, those welds! I've had neighbors, welders, and several contractors comment on the quality as being the best welding they've ever seen.
Do you think the cowboy firebox is something that would get much use? Or would prefer one without?
Get it for sure just for ease of starting your fires and cleaning the firebox. But the real reason to get it is to reverse sear some ribeyes. I smoke 3.5 inch ribeyes fire 2 hours then sear on the cowboy grill. That sweet wood flavor can’t be replicated any other way.
What do you prefer - the Workhorse 1975 or the Franklin off set ?
I have one with the wagon package. It cost less than the trailered version and is really easy to move around the yard. Highly recommend it to anyone out there looking for a great pit.
Same here. Love my 1975 wagon
Thanks buddy. I was debating if I should get the wagon or not.
@@ftrevino4493 I move it around a lot and it makes it so much easier. It weighs a ton and with just castors I see it being a huge pain.
The delivery driver said the 1975 wagon is the best of the lineup, for size and ease to move. He would know moving them every week.
Glad to see you gave carnivore a shot! Changed my life.
Ordered a 1975 with the Wagon package back in end of November, should be getting it soon, really excited, haven’t heard or seen a bad review and the excellent build quality is always mentioned. Great videos as always.
You got ripped of got mine used $800 and it's a little bigger
Been cooking on my 1969 for over a year...great pit. Thanks for the review
Debating the 1969 vs 1975 now! Hard decision.
@@raadkins16 its only a couple hundread more. Get the 75.
Anyway you could review a workhorse 1969? I really would be interested in what you think as I don’t need the space a 1975 has, but want a good offset.
I wouldn't mind seeing a review of the 1969 myself. Having said that, I have a 1975t on order even though I'll mostly just be cooking for two, as my wife and I are empty nesters. My reasoning? It's my first smoker and I am convinced that as Jeremy has noted that it will be easier to maintain the fire and temperature on the 24" vs 20" diameter smoker. Plus, I wanted the trailer, even though I think the wagon is pretty kick ass. And I've found that my smoked pork and chicken freeze well, so I'll probably just load it up anyhow.
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So screw a ball valve into it!!!!
The welds on the workhorse are perfect. It truly is an amazing smoker.
Are they?
How much does a Workhorse 1975t weigh? My vehicle is only rated to tow 2,000 lbs. Thank you.
This thing is almost $7K in May 2024.
Nah we can wait untill non sell and they get cheaper....
Have you had a chance to review or try out a Mill Scale smoker? That's the brand the #1 restaurant in TX (Goldee's BBQ in Kennedale near Ft Worth) uses... ah, wait, at 11:34 you mention talking to someone that had a Mill Scale 94 ...
We are looking at purchasing an offset smoker. The Franklin is more expensive than we have in our budget. We are looking at $2-4 thousand. One option we have looked at is the Lang offset smokers. How does the Workhorse brand compare to Lang?
Love my 1975t. Great review.
Hi Jeremy,
how do you still like this 1975 workhorse Offset smoker?
Thanks
Carl
How about reviewing a Lone Star Grillz 20x42 offset.
Just got a letter from Workhorse pits ,and they are going to miss my October 9th start date "by a few weeks" FYI they are behind in production.
I've noticed that the door on the OLD COUNTRY BRAZOS is 3/16" steel and not 1/4" like the rest of the chamber. Has it always been this way? I was going to buy one until I noticed. I like the size of the Workhorse 1969 but it's a bit out of my price range at the moment.
Which do you think would be better, a workhorse 1975 or a TMG volunteer?
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3/8 inch thick is kinda overkill wouldn’t you say? You’re paying for that thickness too.
Question how come you can’t use a charcoal basket on these yet on a outlaw smoker it’s preferred to use one and majority of the best bbq professionals use outlaws with charcoal
"majority of the best bbq professionals use outlaws with charcoal" That's quite an assertion. Care to provide some data?
If you’d do traveling BBQ classes I’d sign up Imagine all the networking you’d accomplish and cash you can make. Not to mention take your channel with you and meet your fans I’m in South Texas and would love to meet ya
I would be curious to see a shoot-out between this cooker, the FatStack 80, the Franklin, and the Carlisle 85, that I hear is a respectful smoker as well.
Why don't you render the fat scraps from your trimmed brisket instead of buying beef talo? You're already using high quality meat right?
What size ball valve would you suggest / recommend to install on bottom of smoker??
Is it worth it to upgrade from a Brazos?
As far as adding the ball valve. You can go to any hardware store get a nipple and a ball valve. That is a standard coupling just welded on the bottom of the cooker. Looks to be 3/4”.
I know you have done lots of reviews on offsets. But I would love for you to do a review on the chargrilled grande champ Xd from Home Depot. They say it is better than old country pecos would like to see what you think.
I built a smoker out of a 3/8 thick pipe and the door was super heavy too. I welded an arm off the back with a pulley on top. I have a steel cable attached to the door that goes over the pulley to a 50lb weight that slides in a track. Sort of like a davit. Its night and day difference.
Do the shelves slide out? If not, why is the length and width are the same as Fatshak, is the cooking area so much smaller?
Top slides out. Bottom does not, which is a bit of a bummer. The other knock on the 1975t is that it does not have a shelf option. Nevertheless, I'm getting one.
I have a Yoder Wichita but it is too small for two large briskets so the Workhorse 1975 (cart) will someday be my next smoker.