Glad to see this sub floor build. I'm reworking a 1970 Crestliner 160 Admiral with as much flat open floor space possible and yet still have some locked storage for rods, electrical, nav lights, oars, fish net and misc. Thanks for sharing!
Good info for sure , I’m rebuilding a 16 ft . With a 40 hp . Installed center console and new floor and stuff . Your video helps a lot . Nice work brother
#1 recommendation: electric or air STAPLE GUN!!!! Speaking from personal experience, of killing my hands, use one! Love the way you tied the ply together. Wish I would have seen this in 2015 when I restored my Starcraft.
New patreon here. This is where I am on my 16.5ft V-hull. I wanted to frame it in aluminum run sides on both sides similar to the height and width of the livewell in this vid. My only concern is how the water can drain if I were to use a pour foam under the floor. I'm considering using a combination of the pool noodles and pour foam in order to assure there is some space for water but I have not seen it addressed in any of the vids yet.
There are several tips for building boats:Allow enough time.take advantage of done for you boat templates.(I learned about these and more on Denelle boat builder website )
How do you level the floor on a 12 foot Gamefisher where the back bottom is flatter but quickly forms a 6-8 inch "V" with in 8 feet? What way would you suggest to put in a floor? set the floor higher and further towards the front do a step floor with the front being higher because of how deep the "V" is allowing for a deepr storage on the casting deck? Thanks
I've been a sub for a while now and I don't want this comment to come across as rude. I just want to state my mind to hopefully better your channel in the future. From my point of view, your channel has been all over the place. It makes it hard to take in the info. I've looked into being a patreon member of yours but I simply did not have the confidence in the channel to do so at this point. I do understand that you have to make some means along the way for putting out this content. But that being said, I haven't seen a full start to finish build yet. It shows that the camera is second to the work being done. That, along with the patreon can't coincide if your trying to build the "Tiny Boat Nation". It's either patreon or tiny boat nation IMO. I write this comment in all respect and I really mean that. For instance, do you have a patent on anything you've done? If not, why make people pay to get the real information? It's only my opinion but for what's it worth I want to see your channel expand and grow and I believe these are some key things that will get you there. With respect, Blake
I want to add a pedestal type seat in the back of my boat and want to make a floor like this, how do I ensure that this will be sturdy and not crack the plywood when I lean to the side?
Question. Wouldn't those noodles not be reserve buoyancy because they are below the water line? And when rebuilding these, what amount of stability is gained by adding water tight pockets on the floor?
Did you screwed the compartement framing because i dont understand how you fixed the framing on the plywood? Did you riveted it? id you screwed it? If you did what type of screws did you used for this build?
I don't understand why he needed the sub floor. If you had the same problem how did you solve it? Is the water supposed to collect on the sub floor, and you put your bilge there too?
Just curious do you have to get your boat inspected after you guys transform the boat? it seems in Michigan i would have to get it inspected unless i am reading the rule wrong.
I've watched many of your videos and always hoped to see how you address a problem you described in this one. You talked about a boat like this one, having struts across the bottom with just a small space for the water to drain under the center of the strut through to the back. As you stated, they easily become clogged with dirt and debris. I have tried several things to open them up more, and I feel that to be essential if I want to put a floor in the boat. Otherwise water will collect there and not be able to escape or evaporate, causing problem in the future. Do you know of any method to enlarge those openings without affecting the integrity of the strut itself? Please let me know.
Hope my post records and stay posted this time. :-) and thank you for your great vids. They made me look at my "bigger than I expected project" with hope and anticipation. Ok, I have a question for you. I am restoring and old Grumman GMF 16th feet Aluminum fishing boat. Everything at the bottom was rotten. Floor, Transom, and all the polyurethane was soaked with water even old gas. I tried to upload a picture but it does not seem to let me. The old foam and rutten wood left the whole bottom really stained and I want to make it clean before I test for leaks and rebuit the monster projet (to me). 1- What can I use to clean all that gunk without damaging the aluminum. 2- To reinstall the new floor, if I need to use screws, what's the best (because everybody seems to say we can only use aluminum on aluminum boat...)? Thank you!
So I'd like to get a 16' redone kinda like this. How are you making sure the subfloor drains? I also want to pour-foam instead of pool foam it. Do I make a central channel and force all water thru the central channel?
Hey man quick question for you! Did that boat have a seat in the center? My boat has 3 seats but I want to take one out and put a floor like this in it and a live well, just not sure if it would cause an issue. Also thanks for the video! The best one I could find on a v bottom boat.
where did you buy the foam for the subfloor if you don't mind me asking? I'm looking at buying my neighbors 14 FT aluminum boat and it will be a project boat. I am 67 years old and will have trouble putting a new floor in because of arthritis. I would think foam would be easier than two by fours to work with when putting together a sug-floor. Thanks for your videos and God Bless!!
@@TinyBoatNationon a 14 ft wouldn't that increase the height of the deck bringing it up just under the lip of the boat? this is base on the height of about 15 to 17 now would that be kind of difficult to move around on the deck ?
Has anyone ever considered using a rubber matt instead of carpet? Like a tan diamond pattern 1/2" matt glued on the floor. I hate getting hooks stuck in carpet. And the matt is supposed to be used for standing for long periods of time. Jw. All comments welcome.
I love DIY but after working full time job pluse being on Lawn services on the weekends and rental. I now spend my relaxing and retire but so many things that is on my task list. Do you build and sell? Since you sung your boat you obviously build and correct the mistakes. Thanks. Love your channel.
Hi Michael. This is exactly what I needed to see for the winter build on my 14' Mirrocraft. Are you laying down 1/2", 5/8", or 3/4" for this sub-floor? Been watching your content for a long time now. Thanks!
@@TinyBoatNation Wow! I wouldn't have thought to go thinner than 1/2". Thank you for the quick reply. I'll be sure to share on the TBN Facebook page when I get things going.
What year is your mirrocraft? Im doing my first boat restore and mod on a 1966. It came with a 9.5 johnson sea horse motor and a tilt trailer. I ran across a store in my town that was replacing some of the metal shelves and thowing out the old ones. They are 4ft by 18 in. sheets. I grabed all they threw away. Im going to use the shelves as my flooring. Im pretty sure its gonna turn out good. I hope
Hey Mike man Im addicted to your video’s lol Im starting my vhull restoration i wanna use half in plywood for the subfloor would oil based primer work to preserve it? Thanks Marjorie and I think I’m gonna sign up on Patreon I have alot of questions lol
I think that you missed an opportunity here. You could have laid tubing back and forth along the bottom of the hull. This would be in a radiant heating pattern. Cover with a plastic sheet for the next part. Instead of heating the bottom of boat/lake. You would be capturing the cold of the lake. Use the cold to cool your lockers. Then lay the subfloor and pour in foam between the plastic sheet and subfloor, to lock it in place, add flotation and insulate. But other then that, I like what I have been seeing. -BAG2
@@TinyBoatNation I am not trying to bash your efforts and accomplishments. I think what you have done is great. You make me want to find a 20 ft john boat and do the same thing. The part that you aren't seeing is that the engineering part of my brain looks at everything I see and says hey. Heat is an issue. How can I solve it. Hence my suggestion. I hope you take this reply with the good intentions with the way it was Meant. Keep doing what you are doing and I want to see more of your accomplishments. Best wishes, -BAG2
Mike as my manager tells me when speaking in a meeting never assumes everything your explaining break it down kindergarten level. I have the same situation with the ribs going across question the subfloor plywood is the same size plywood as the deck is going to be right now as for the foam it seems like u just put a little noodle foam in it or I didn’t see that part? are u going to break this down in Patreon cause I’m in Patreon. I ask lots of annoying questions that’s how I learn Lolol sorry
Glad to see this sub floor build. I'm reworking a 1970 Crestliner 160 Admiral with as much flat open floor space possible and yet still have some locked storage for rods, electrical, nav lights, oars, fish net and misc. Thanks for sharing!
Good info for sure , I’m rebuilding a 16 ft . With a 40 hp . Installed center console and new floor and stuff . Your video helps a lot . Nice work brother
So close to 100k subs!! Congrats man!
Great camera angle. I like the top view looking down👍
#1 recommendation: electric or air STAPLE GUN!!!! Speaking from personal experience, of killing my hands, use one! Love the way you tied the ply together. Wish I would have seen this in 2015 when I restored my Starcraft.
Thanks for the shout out brother
New patreon here. This is where I am on my 16.5ft V-hull. I wanted to frame it in aluminum run sides on both sides similar to the height and width of the livewell in this vid. My only concern is how the water can drain if I were to use a pour foam under the floor. I'm considering using a combination of the pool noodles and pour foam in order to assure there is some space for water but I have not seen it addressed in any of the vids yet.
Yall make It look so easy. Great video thanks.
Back with another banger. Thanks for the info.
There are several tips for building boats:Allow enough time.take advantage of done for you boat templates.(I learned about these and more on Denelle boat builder website )
I have to pull my deck apart this winter and preserve the wood better. It swells up in the rain and then I can't open the hatch doors. Lol
How do you level the floor on a 12 foot Gamefisher where the back bottom is flatter but quickly forms a 6-8 inch "V" with in 8 feet?
What way would you suggest to put in a floor? set the floor higher and further towards the front do a step floor with the front being higher because of how deep the "V" is allowing for a deepr storage on the casting deck?
Thanks
Use stainless steel staples. Others will rust and in time break.
did you bolt the floor down? if so where did you bolt it down to and with what?
Very detailed, great job keep it up!
What do u Do with three benches....?
I've been a sub for a while now and I don't want this comment to come across as rude. I just want to state my mind to hopefully better your channel in the future.
From my point of view, your channel has been all over the place. It makes it hard to take in the info. I've looked into being a patreon member of yours but I simply did not have the confidence in the channel to do so at this point. I do understand that you have to make some means along the way for putting out this content. But that being said, I haven't seen a full start to finish build yet. It shows that the camera is second to the work being done. That, along with the patreon can't coincide if your trying to build the "Tiny Boat Nation". It's either patreon or tiny boat nation IMO. I write this comment in all respect and I really mean that. For instance, do you have a patent on anything you've done? If not, why make people pay to get the real information? It's only my opinion but for what's it worth I want to see your channel expand and grow and I believe these are some key things that will get you there.
With respect,
Blake
I bet he's kicking himself now for not getting on the wagon early on
Thinner coat of paint are the best
How does the drainage work in the boat with the subfloor in place?
Does it rot with the water?
I want to add a pedestal type seat in the back of my boat and want to make a floor like this, how do I ensure that this will be sturdy and not crack the plywood when I lean to the side?
Great video thank you for sharing God bless...
So is the floor just held in place by the noches you made ?
Question. Wouldn't those noodles not be reserve buoyancy because they are below the water line? And when rebuilding these, what amount of stability is gained by adding water tight pockets on the floor?
Did you screwed the compartement framing because i dont understand how you fixed the framing on the plywood? Did you riveted it? id you screwed it? If you did what type of screws did you used for this build?
Love this video, because I am going through this right now on my build!
I don't understand why he needed the sub floor. If you had the same problem how did you solve it? Is the water supposed to collect on the sub floor, and you put your bilge there too?
Nice mike thanks for sharing
Just curious do you have to get your boat inspected after you guys transform the boat? it seems in Michigan i would have to get it inspected unless i am reading the rule wrong.
With this build... any issues later on with flexing?
Do you still build the floor this way or do you just put the floor where you are going to stand?
That’s what I am trying to figure out
@@noahhowden-rich2148 this channel and community sucks! Good luck!
@@kcbennie I don’t know about that I am trying to figure out if the H channel spine is out of aluminum or not now
@@noahhowden-rich2148 That's how I'm doing mine.
@@kcbennie how do you get it attached to the boat without welding or drilling
Great video it helps out a lot
I enjoy watching but how do I get to more videos
I've watched many of your videos and always hoped to see how you address a problem you described in this one. You talked about a boat like this one, having struts across the bottom with just a small space for the water to drain under the center of the strut through to the back. As you stated, they easily become clogged with dirt and debris. I have tried several things to open them up more, and I feel that to be essential if I want to put a floor in the boat. Otherwise water will collect there and not be able to escape or evaporate, causing problem in the future. Do you know of any method to enlarge those openings without affecting the integrity of the strut itself? Please let me know.
Hope my post records and stay posted this time. :-) and thank you for your great vids. They made me look at my "bigger than I expected project" with hope and anticipation. Ok, I have a question for you. I am restoring and old Grumman GMF 16th feet Aluminum fishing boat. Everything at the bottom was rotten. Floor, Transom, and all the polyurethane was soaked with water even old gas. I tried to upload a picture but it does not seem to let me. The old foam and rutten wood left the whole bottom really stained and I want to make it clean before I test for leaks and rebuit the monster projet (to me). 1- What can I use to clean all that gunk without damaging the aluminum. 2- To reinstall the new floor, if I need to use screws, what's the best (because everybody seems to say we can only use aluminum on aluminum boat...)? Thank you!
What was thickness of plywood
Great video.what kind of plywood is that? I want rubber flooring what would you recommend
Is this tread still working?
What thickness of plywood did you go with here?
3/8”
1/8 or 1/16 thick aluminum angle 🤔
How is the sub floor attached to the boat? I want to start with this but be able to remove it if necessary as I plan and learn.
So I'd like to get a 16' redone kinda like this. How are you making sure the subfloor drains? I also want to pour-foam instead of pool foam it. Do I make a central channel and force all water thru the central channel?
What about a Klamath 14 foot?
Hey man quick question for you! Did that boat have a seat in the center? My boat has 3 seats but I want to take one out and put a floor like this in it and a live well, just not sure if it would cause an issue. Also thanks for the video! The best one I could find on a v bottom boat.
Awesome video, I'm thinking of doing a sub floor on my 14' Alumacraft, but not sure on what gauge aluminum to use. Thoughts?
090
thank you
So don’t use pressure treated wood? I just got my first boat and looking into doing this
Tiny Boat Nation why is that though
@@bee2333 If you haven't read/learned ... PT wood chemicals (ex. copper) will "eat" the aluminum causing corrosion
Yoooooo, where y’all at!!?????
Hey man. I know this a few years old now. Would you still do this to this boat or would change it now? Thanks in advance.
What length and width is this boat?
Idea for next video.
Shop clean up.
Michael Lopez LoL!
Is
Is your shop clean?
@@TinyBoatNation That Dude needs to clean his own shop
What do you normally throw for the smallmouth in the keys?
the boat I just got the guy had already removed the benches. my question is should I just sheet the whole floor?
where did you buy the foam for the subfloor if you don't mind me asking? I'm looking at buying my neighbors 14 FT aluminum boat and it will be a project boat. I am 67 years old and will have trouble putting a new floor in because of arthritis. I would think foam would be easier than two by fours to work with when putting together a sug-floor. Thanks for your videos and God Bless!!
You know I thought when you said foam for a subfloor you were going to drill into foam blocks
@@TinyBoatNation i'm sorry i guess i have never seen them before at a hardware store
@@dbcooper692 most are blue at the big blue store. And pink at the big orange store. They add also have white with foam covering
What kinda board did you use
@@TinyBoatNation fir or fire
Advice for a fiber glass boat, for a removable deck.
Is the boat still in good shape ? Because I’m thinking about doing it that way
@@TinyBoatNation because as we can see in the video there is only foam underneath the subfloor so isn’t the water stunk under the subfloor
how thick is that plywood?
@@TinyBoatNation doesn't it add too much weight? im thinking of using 1/4" for subfloor and 1/2" for the casting deck under 1.5" x 1/8" angle
I'm gonna try to do a sub in my 12' alumacraft
I checked your uploads and didn't see one. Done it yet? I've got a 12' star craft and looking for other people's experiences.
@@drewdoestrucks I did a front casting deck. Check my Instagram
Fishinwithdave
You dont have to spray or treat the base of the boat?
@@TinyBoatNation the skeleton of the boat? The H frame thingy?
Does the subfloor work with anysize boat? the inside depth of my boat is about 17 maybe a little bit less.
@@TinyBoatNationon a 14 ft wouldn't that increase the height of the deck bringing it up just under the lip of the boat? this is base on the height of about 15 to 17 now would that be kind of difficult to move around on the deck ?
Has anyone ever considered using a rubber matt instead of carpet?
Like a tan diamond pattern 1/2" matt glued on the floor.
I hate getting hooks stuck in carpet. And the matt is supposed to be used for standing for long periods of time.
Jw. All comments welcome.
I love DIY but after working full time job pluse being on
Lawn services on the weekends and rental. I now spend my relaxing and retire but so many things that is on my task list. Do you build and sell? Since you sung your boat you obviously build and correct the mistakes. Thanks. Love your channel.
Hi Michael. This is exactly what I needed to see for the winter build on my 14' Mirrocraft. Are you laying down 1/2", 5/8", or 3/4" for this sub-floor? Been watching your content for a long time now. Thanks!
@@TinyBoatNation Wow! I wouldn't have thought to go thinner than 1/2". Thank you for the quick reply. I'll be sure to share on the TBN Facebook page when I get things going.
What year is your mirrocraft? Im doing my first boat restore and mod on a 1966. It came with a 9.5 johnson sea horse motor and a tilt trailer. I ran across a store in my town that was replacing some of the metal shelves and thowing out the old ones. They are 4ft by 18 in. sheets. I grabed all they threw away. Im going to use the shelves as my flooring. Im pretty sure its gonna turn out good. I hope
Make a new Junt!!
Wd40 will take any carpet glue off of you.
To all Negative people, stop commenting!
You have some other videos on draining from the dah boxes but I haven't seen one with a subfloor in the boat. What would you do there?
@@TinyBoatNation Okay, thanks.
14 FT Jon
Hey Mike man Im addicted to your video’s lol Im starting my vhull restoration i wanna use half in plywood for the subfloor would oil based primer work to preserve it? Thanks Marjorie and I think I’m gonna sign up on Patreon I have alot of questions lol
I think that you missed an opportunity here. You could have laid tubing back and forth along the bottom of the hull. This would be in a radiant heating pattern. Cover with a plastic sheet for the next part. Instead of heating the bottom of boat/lake. You would be capturing the cold of the lake. Use the cold to cool your lockers. Then lay the subfloor and pour in foam between the plastic sheet and subfloor, to lock it in place, add flotation and insulate. But other then that, I like what I have been seeing. -BAG2
@@TinyBoatNation I am not trying to bash your efforts and accomplishments. I think what you have done is great. You make me want to find a 20 ft john boat and do the same thing. The part that you aren't seeing is that the engineering part of my brain looks at everything I see and says hey. Heat is an issue. How can I solve it. Hence my suggestion. I hope you take this reply with the good intentions with the way it was Meant. Keep doing what you are doing and I want to see more of your accomplishments. Best wishes, -BAG2
JON BOAT
all that info is great bud but seeing the finished product would have been far less disappointing..
Are you securing the framing to the subfloor with rivets?
@Tiny Boat Nation are you using washers underneath or just letting the grip expand within the wood?
@Tiny Boat Nation I appreciate that. Thank you
Heck yeah, carpet glue is ALMOST as bad as 3m 5200 adhesive. Seems to stick and spread EVERYWHERE> lol
Mike as my manager tells me when speaking in a meeting never assumes everything your explaining break it down kindergarten level. I have the same situation with the ribs going across question the subfloor plywood is the same size plywood as the deck is going to be right now as for the foam it seems like u just put a little noodle foam in it or I didn’t see that part? are u going to break this down in Patreon cause I’m in Patreon. I ask lots of annoying questions that’s how I learn Lolol sorry
how do i do a search to find it I was trying to search specific topics and I couldn't get it to work for me
Michael Lopez ok about 830 ur time
Set a fixed camera, I like the videos but you've given me vertigo from the picture just constantly jumping
Dude, you need to get a mic. Videos are great but sound quality is poor. Microphone!
Need a new camera man yikes. Headache city
Sorry not impressed as your previous work.. shotty at best
Its shoddy not shotty
@@TinyBoatNation I personally think you are doing a great job.I look forward to more videos
@@TinyBoatNation I just wanted to add one more thing, I can't believe the amount of negative people on here.
poor video taping moves all over.hard to follow