im rlly happy to see a pro talking about doubles i feel like a lot of players just bunch it together with like free for alls and idk games with items but doubles takes a lot of strategy and skill thats special to doubles wish it was seen more as a main event rather than a side event at tourmaments
Thoughts on using 2 bruisers? It probably doesn't translate at all to top level offline doubles, but my friend and I have a 93 consecutive win streak going in online doubles with Peach and Daisy.
the thing is she’s definitely not bad lol, she’s a great support character, i don’t think mute really knows much about rosa in doubles and kinda spoke without really knowing
@@sass_king5576Well, her carry, Luma does every 2 seconds, and her damage output isn’t crazy. She also can’t really camp without Luma. guess Star bits are pretty good, but is there anything else?
@@float_peach really good edgeguards, really floaty so it’s easy to pass, huge hitboxes, down b to cancel projectiles… she definitely has things and luma dying every two seconds is definitely an exaggeration
Rosa is actually a great support character, she’s in now way « bad », great aerials, edgeguarding and passes with fair, down tilt, fthrow and nair… + luma doesn’t really die as much as you think since so much is happening people don’t focus on him.
Fox is weird in doubles. If it's 2 seperate 1v1s he's top tier, since he can target switch/reengage so quickly and his most damaging combos take like 2 seconds. But if it's point/support he can't do anything. If he tries to play point he needs his movement because those hitboxes aren't challenging anything, which just runs him into his teammate. If he tries to play support his chess rook movement and feather weight makes him unable to join the fray effectively. AFAICT Fox's teammate needs good air to air, since at least then I can use more of the stage length to play point/support without disrupting them too much.
And people didn't believe me when i said Piranha Plant is good in doubles ☠️ also, check out MuteAce in Grand finals with Scend against Lucky and Loaf in which Mute plays against a Piranha Plant... in Grand finals...
Mute, have you talked about what controls you use for Peach? I’m going all in on Peach, just curiousvvv if you’ve found some optimizations for controls. Thanks!
Greninja in bruisers? I mean, he does decent damage with fair and dair, but his combos are usually too long to actually get damage off (tho he does pass very well). Honestly between shuriken, bair, and his overall speed I think he's one of the best disruptors out there.
My brother and I do samus Mario online and we rarely ever lose a game. Usually if we do they have retarded rules like items and smash ball. Normal tournament set rules i can’t remember the last time we lost with that combo. It usually gets so easy we nerf ourselves to worse characters to make it competitive lmao. It helps that samus and mario are our mains but the duo itself is so good. Mario grab into full charge shot should be illegal 🤣🤣🤣
This thumbnail is NASTY. Props to whoever made it.
haha thats me tysm!
@@retroartist3872good job
Super interesting video, I wish more top players theorycrafted doubles in videos
Incin really being true to its VG incarnation by being mid in singles and being one of the best Pokemon in doubles.
"Rob is actually God" i love mute
im rlly happy to see a pro talking about doubles i feel like a lot of players just bunch it together with like free for alls and idk games with items but doubles takes a lot of strategy and skill thats special to doubles wish it was seen more as a main event rather than a side event at tourmaments
I want more of a focus on doubles! It's really entertaining at tournaments, and the meta is really interesting to view.
Super interesting concept, thanks for the upload mute
Also great video I wish we'd have more videos about doubles like this one for the meta
With vids like these bro its comfy bein a mute Rida 😊
YESS KEEP UP THE CONTENT MUTE
Thoughts on using 2 bruisers? It probably doesn't translate at all to top level offline doubles, but my friend and I have a 93 consecutive win streak going in online doubles with Peach and Daisy.
thanks to mute for another absolute banger vid
I love how the characters that play doubles in singles (Rosalina and Ice climbers) are bad in actual Doubles.
the thing is she’s definitely not bad lol, she’s a great support character, i don’t think mute really knows much about rosa in doubles and kinda spoke without really knowing
@@sass_king5576 who plays her in doubles?
@@sass_king5576Well, her carry, Luma does every 2 seconds, and her damage output isn’t crazy. She also can’t really camp without Luma. guess Star bits are pretty good, but is there anything else?
@@float_peach really good edgeguards, really floaty so it’s easy to pass, huge hitboxes, down b to cancel projectiles… she definitely has things and luma dying every two seconds is definitely an exaggeration
@@sass_king5576 I guess… but surely Mute will have noticed a good Rosa in doubles after doing doubles for 5 years?
Thumbnail goes incredibly hard
Rosa is actually a great support character, she’s in now way « bad », great aerials, edgeguarding and passes with fair, down tilt, fthrow and nair… + luma doesn’t really die as much as you think since so much is happening people don’t focus on him.
Bro there are 2 more characters worth of hitboxes on the screen. Luma is not surving for more than 10 seconds lol
@@Junr_7 he is lol
Thank you mute ace for knowing robin is op
Fox is weird in doubles. If it's 2 seperate 1v1s he's top tier, since he can target switch/reengage so quickly and his most damaging combos take like 2 seconds. But if it's point/support he can't do anything. If he tries to play point he needs his movement because those hitboxes aren't challenging anything, which just runs him into his teammate. If he tries to play support his chess rook movement and feather weight makes him unable to join the fray effectively.
AFAICT Fox's teammate needs good air to air, since at least then I can use more of the stage length to play point/support without disrupting them too much.
I love how Mute just straight up didn't rank Mii Swordfighter 💀
Probably forgot lol
Who? 🤪
fun fact: if your good at doubles your also good at singles :O
love someone talking about doubles lmao
And people didn't believe me when i said Piranha Plant is good in doubles ☠️ also, check out MuteAce in Grand finals with Scend against Lucky and Loaf in which Mute plays against a Piranha Plant... in Grand finals...
What are Peach's good partners in doubles?
Probably not the best but I really enjoy peach and Daisy... Catching each other's turnips and extending combos is just too much fun
@@yellowyosh69 It is indeed a fun combination but the lack of killpower really hurts the team comp
Ike being a support feels weird but I can see it.
Common mute w
Mute, have you talked about what controls you use for Peach? I’m going all in on Peach, just curiousvvv if you’ve found some optimizations for controls. Thanks!
Krool throws are low-key just ike throws and I love it
What’s the opinion on DK?
Greninja in bruisers? I mean, he does decent damage with fair and dair, but his combos are usually too long to actually get damage off (tho he does pass very well). Honestly between shuriken, bair, and his overall speed I think he's one of the best disruptors out there.
I wonder if Double Peach was a good team when there was pre-patch fair.
I see doubles content hit that like
how does soras counter beat incin side b?
Imagine to be against a Godlike Icies and Robin in double… It scares me lol
I dont agree with rosa. She has amazing tools. In my opinion she is underrated.
I Feel like dedede pairs well w some zoners like villager. Also u forgot mii sword.
Meta knight is kinda cracked in doubles
My brother and I do samus Mario online and we rarely ever lose a game. Usually if we do they have retarded rules like items and smash ball. Normal tournament set rules i can’t remember the last time we lost with that combo. It usually gets so easy we nerf ourselves to worse characters to make it competitive lmao. It helps that samus and mario are our mains but the duo itself is so good. Mario grab into full charge shot should be illegal 🤣🤣🤣
Good Shulk placement. That character has concistency issues even in singles. Smash art in dubs never works in dubs either since u legit just did at 50
Mut!! Make more youtube just talking about stuff plz
I think Ridley is a nuke
Algorithm bump