REALLY! REALLY! appreciate the effort put into this. I have watched the entire video 5 times now looking for patterns. An observation through all of these objects that 95% of these are spot on the center of the target 2D graph leading me to believe when used in conjunction with the VDI you can really make a good observation of size, roundness. If there is iron in the hole with an object that is non ferrous I believe it is a safe bet to dig those secondary deep tones even if you have two or three VDI's coming in while one is centered. This would lead me to believe you could bump the lower ferrous limit up a bit and eliminate a lot of falseing with ferrous objects and junk. The lower VDI limit seems consistent with mineral falseing at higher sensitivity if you are running the detector wide open which may be why they mask 1-4. Again thank you for making the video. My 9 year old daughter who detects with me also loves your videos. Keep the videos coming!
Outstanding job as usual! I really respect your transparency, honesty, and adjusting your conclusions when new information becomes available. Keep up the great work!
I swung an AT Pro many years, I currently own the Manticore and I love it, but the numbers are all over the board. When I used the AT Pro the ID's were much better at determining what i was about to dig vs my Manticore in my opinion, especially on coins. And it was a 0-100 scale also. With the Manticore i rely more on tones
Remember that most of these air tested targets will be amplified when in the ground. Typical silver coins ring in over 90 when they are 5+ inches - I have over 200 silver coins dug with the Manticore. I've also had pennies ring in at 95. I dig all deep targets which come in all over the map and have been surprised many times with quality digs, including gold rings.
@madgieljorro6224 if you use it in beach general, then all the gold is unmasked. Because in all terrain general it is masked. Also you can just take out the mask over the targets 0 to 4 at anytime.
Thank you so much for going through so much effort to do these tests. I learned a lot but was absolutely sitting here with my mouth agape at it not picking up gold or registering so low.
Purchased and much appreciated! Love your videos, very informative. You can definitely tell you're a teacher and love spreading knowledge and do so effectively and keep it fun to follow along. Cheers Brother!
Excellent video Merrill. So basically dig everything hahaha. I recently upgraded to a 900 from a vanquish 540. I haven't tapped into the advanced settings yet but im hoping to. I found a Hibernia copper with the 900 at 8 inches. The vanquish also picked up the tone.
The positive is that even with a high dicrimination like on coin shooting you still have the chance to find gold. I found a lot of gold with a very high dicrimination on my Deus 2 while i was coin shooting.
Merril, the only thing I care about is I don't want to dig iron. The only guaranteed way to do this is with the Manticore 2d trace. No other machine does it so well.
Very good video Professor Detector. They dig everything here on the beach because of the historical shipwrecks. Sometimes they get gold coins and sometime they get a simple hull nail.
Very interesting and in depth review of objects. Would be interesting to see UK & European objects. But as always dig and get to learn your machine. Still learning the Manticore here but you can edit the lower end of the General all terrain to capture those low numbers.
I learned a lot here. Thank you Merrill! I feel like I may have missed some targets after watching your video. One thing that I would like to point out, not all of the coins paint a tight circle on the non ferrous line. Some of these targets which include silver are fuzzy which may cause some manticore hunters to not dig the target because of the vast range other junky targets registering on the scale. I will adjust my attitude and do what you say, “Dig everything!”
@@MetalDetectingNYC Thanks for the reply, I would do it just for thrills and adventure. I have a 1938 Dog Tag I found while putting a pool in my yard it been on my key chain ever since. Good luck and stay safe!
It’ll be interesting to see the jewellery tested on the jewellery mode rather than all terrain, see if you still think it struggles with the funny shapes at certain angles etc? Or if it’s expecting those features does it then show those differently as you’d expect.
What this shows me is Minelab has severely regressed in target ID. The Manticore and Deus2 are nothing but high dollar 'Beep and dig' machines! I have used Minelabs almost exclusively since the early '90's and the CTX was great, the Etrac and Equinox serries are great, but this is a nightmare for target ID! I have a finite amount of digs left and I would like to have a reasonably accurate idea of what is there before I dig a hole!
If you depend on the Target I D all the time.good luck with that.As far as so you don't have to dig.What you need is a probe and only pick up the targets on top of the ground so you don't have to dig mm
Im making a small vdi sheet of my own including Merrill’s numbers. Laminate it and attach it to my manticore until I learn the general numbers range of the targets
Thanks for the Video Merrill. I was going to buy the e-book but unfortunately I can't use PayPal for payment. I will have to watch your video guide in slow motion 😅
Seems like there is a wide range of readings even within a single type metal and that an objects shape affects it's signal level. This to me means the best over all digging strategy, as you often say, is to dig whenever there is a beep.
@MetalDetectingNYC ordered noxs 600 now I wait. Last 3 days used Dad old teknicks and had flash back after I slaped it around in the park like a step child found memories.
I love your graphs..... I'm seeing the Legend going for 399.00 😳.. just detector alone... I'm still seeing people asking 200-500 for outdated detectors😅... People watch videos made 6 years ago, and then go bye that outdated detector..... I guess ya gotta start out somewhere.... Detector history. Tesoro Siver Umax Nokta Coinfinder Whites DFX Fisher f19 Minelab equinox 600.
Looking at upgrading my AT Pro I have a Tesero Tejan as well. Looks like it’ll be a minelab just from the power those things have. You think manticore over Equinox? Price isn’t a issue. Thanks for the vids man keep it up
Look at your Ace Garrett and they also show gold going way up....but not in the iron low range ..are the users of that missing the gold in the 00 threw 10 on it as well.
The stability depends on the quality of the surface. Ideally there is a uniform flat surface like coins. Rings are anything but that. But jumpy numbers can also help us inference that it is something out of the ordinary.
The coil see each little link instead of seeing its total mass as a solid piece. Thats why gold bracelets are tough to see. Small chains can disappear in salt because it falls in that salt conductivity range. Thats where a pulse inductor rules over any VLF. I used to find so many chains and earrings when I hunted with the Surf Pro PI using a 950 coil. The VLF's cant compete but at least youre not digging 50 iron BB's or rust blotches. I dont think a tiny chain is worth the time lost digging so much crap iron. Plus it limits the amount of good targets you can dig in that day. But when theres spots without heavy iron I still break out the pulse inductor because its hard to skunk that detector
Hopefully you have had more time to test the manticore, be good if you could update your website on how the manticore performs? I'm from across the pond, and a minelab fan, but still not sure whether to upgrade from the nox
Hi Peter. I do love the Manticore. But the question is, do you want to spent 800 dollars over the price of the 800 for 2-3% more performance. Or should you wait until there is a replacement for the CTX3030. I have heard nothing about the 3030 replacement, but does it make sense that a FBS detector sits at the top of the Minelab (treasure detector) price points in a Multi IQ dominant world.
So, did best results in finding gold jewelry, leave the horse shoe icon on? New to the Manticore and watching this to best get my unit dialed in. Thanks.
Hey great video as always! Question for ya i have the equinox 800 and wondering if its worth getting the 15 inch coil over using the 11 inch on fields?
Hello, Merrill. I hope you'll have the chance to try the Fisher Impulse-AQ. I'd like to have your opinion on this one too. Best regards and happy hunting.
That one has been on my radar but I dont see too many people using it. I dont have an unlimited budget and I try to reinvest in machines that are buzzing. I would say that the Quest Multi and Rutus Multi detectors are higher on the list right now. But thank you for the request. It is definitely noted!
What frequency is the detector using when it displays the VDI? Does it change or does the Manticore "normalize" the frequencies to display the reading off of one set frequency?
What device do you recommend to use, especially in the Middle East? Note that our region is full of rocks and basalts that give the same effect on Metal.
Hola friend no inglish but I detect in pelham and in orchard..and I like to meet you one day teacher learn some spanish.thank amigo don't forget me .I am very good friend.
Sei mega galattico che super test di numerazioni su manticore 🥰😊 e sul geim 😃😮😮😲😲 uau gia provato ma con cqesto che ai fatto il ranger I E' piu vasto di tantissimi offerti e materiali e spessori molto molto differenti 🤓🧐😎😎😎 un bel super 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤗🤗🤗😁😁😁 anche io sono esperto parecchio ma tu batti me 😉 il manticore 🥰 lo prendo con aggiornamento che dovrebbe arrivare fa un po 🤓🤓😏😏poi ci vado tutti i giorni al mare per capire in fretta tutto e di piu 🧐😎😎😎 buona fortuna 🤗🤗☘️🍀☘️🍀 per tutto e di piu 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🖖🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Possibly. Thanks for the request. It’s multiple days of work to do a target id bible and this one is off to a slow start. The 550 has similar vid’s to the Equinox for the time being.
Hello friend, very nice video!! But I have to say you something, here in Argentina the most gold finds are 18 K and ID numbers go from 13 to 25 in small pieces and the large ones with weight with 18 grams gives you a ID of 63-64. With my Manticore I dont have chance of getting chains of gold or silver, the Manticore dont read anyone. I am working allways in sand laggons with some mineralization and is hard to take calm the detector, perhaps I dont know to much to calm down. The program I use frequently is Beach Low Conductive, with Fast Recover of 3-4 to 6-7. Ferrous limit upper thin line and low line in Zero, Discrimination only column 1. Also I do the same like you making air test but ID numbers change a lot when pieces are underground. Did you know how to get the more powerful of the detector to get deep pieces in mineralization sand? Regards from Argentina. Ricardo.-
I have a couple questions and maybe I can offer you a suggestion to try. Are the lagoons salt water or is it brackish water where a fresh water river runs out into the salt water so it's more ground minerals that's a problem and not salt/ black sand. Assuming it's higher salt levels try these few suggestions first. What can it hurt right? First don't crank your power all the way up. Start out around 75% to 80% max. In mineralized salt you will NEVER be able to crank it up to full power on any detector. Use a program with a lower frequency around the 10kHz frequency or which ever the Manticore has that's close to that. Don't believe that the higher the frequency the better on low conductive targets because that is on dry land or fresh water without magnetic black sand. And it's more for tiny low conductive targets like small nuggets so the 10kHz is good for gold and it will push deeper in the ground in salt and magnetic sand then higher frequencies can. Then back down on your recovery speed to around 2 or 3. Again you aren't looking for tiny nuggets amongst heavy trash there's no reason to run it fast that loses depth quick. Now here's a tip that will sound crazy but try it and see if it doesn't quiet things down. Discriminate out your first few lowest positive ID numbers on the VDI meaning only accept +4 and up. There's very little gold there and what is at those low numbers is so small it's not worth losing depth and stability over to miss better rings. The reason you need to eliminate those low positive numbers is because salt water gives a false signal in those numbers if you accept them so if you cut them out the detector should stabilize greatly just from that one tip. And don't run auto trac unless you can control the tracking speed which should be at least 60% or on 6 if it goes to 10. If you don't have a trac speed adjustment than do a manual balance and lock that down. But if you hunt in the water then come out on the sand re balance it to the sand with the salt out of the equation. Turn your iron disc down then as you detect slowly raise it if you are hitting iron or bottle caps. And I wouldn't rely on the VDI numbers dig every solid signal even if it's weak if you hit it steady then dig it too many things can change those numbers under water in mineralized and iron trashy ground. The first and most important thing is to get it stable and smooth. Next see if you can inch the power up and it stays quiet but not up 10 points try only 3 at a time and find it's sweet spot. And remember to keep the recovery speed low unless when you hit a target it pinpoints to the side if you see that happen bump recovery up only 1 number and see if it fixes that. Use your ear and dig targets you hear the detector is locking on or trying to whisper over the same spot repeatedly. And only watch the ID for reference but don't swear by those numbers. See if that quiets things down for you and gets good depth. If you're getting small nails bump the disc up a notch. If you dig big iron but not small iron just dig them Minelabs not exactly the greatest at ignoring big iron don't blank a deep ring trying to disc out big iron there's probably not a ton of big iron where it won't hurt you to dig 3 or 4 pieces at the risk of losing a thin diamond ring. Good luck and try that for at least an hour or two and see if she isn't much smoother where your not losing depth and getting angry over it falsing. I think you're gonna be fine. If it works reply back on how you did. I bet you see that you'll at least start hitting some silver chains now too Good Luck
But what happens when all this stuff is detected at depth, say 6 inches deep. Realistically most peeps aren't lucky enough to find an area where all coins and good stuff is only 2 to 3 inches deep.
You might be sweeping a little too fast. Slow it down with lower recovery numbers and you have to be hitting 6 inches that's reasonable for even low end detectors and thats where things/finds start getting good unless your in a farm field that gets turned up. The Ace 250 will hit a 6 inch coin and it's far from a high end detector.
This one www.amazon.com/Kidzlane-Detector-Handheld-Full-Size-Detects/dp/B07QG3LNKB/ref=asc_df_B07QG3LNKB/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=343252281089&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4344194506448012260&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004440&hvtargid=pla-739516452166&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=71716338209&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=343252281089&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4344194506448012260&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004440&hvtargid=pla-739516452166
Awesome video as always Sir Merrell you out did your self this time, many of us have been watching and waiting for this video, again an amazing job, Mr Merell could you please send me your Mexican buddy Jose from Mexico his name of RUclips channel, i,d appreciate it, again awesome video
Your passing the targets across the coil in the wrong direction ! The way you have the coil positioned you should be passing the targets up and down to take advantage of the double D coil ! That's why you always circle your targets when detecting. Pass the target completely across the coil , check your VDI and then once more and check again. Don't wiggle the targets on the center of the coil. That will make the IDs jump all over the place.
Bro, I have allot of respect for teachers, and i enjoy all your content. Thank you, but how the hell do you opine on a metal detector you don't own? AKA - Minelab Excal II ? Take your lil , F'king Deus II submerge it under 200' of water and see how that's going to go for you. The Excall II has MULITI Tones and it fully discriminates iron, 100%. the BLIND can use an Excall II because it is driven by TONE - And what's up with the condemn you have on your pin pointer?
lame video of you pushing a overpriced machine again When you are going to start doing videos with the Nokta Legend again? It like you don't ever use that machine anymore.
Then fuck off and find another channel. The legend is an excellent detector, but I did this process already on the legend. The legend blows everything away in value. It is a top end detector. But it is not as capable as a Manticore. When I detect, I try to use machines that give me the best chance to succeed. A Legend is 95% of Manticore or Deus 2. If you want someone to say that the Legend is better you’ll find plenty of (incorrect) channels that do that. Bye!
Link: Buy The Manticore Target ID Bible: www.iratemetaldetectors.com/product-page/minelab-manticore-target-id-bible
Is this pre or post update? Do you think the vdis will change in the update?
@@codylovelace2237
REALLY! REALLY! appreciate the effort put into this. I have watched the entire video 5 times now looking for patterns. An observation through all of these objects that 95% of these are spot on the center of the target 2D graph leading me to believe when used in conjunction with the VDI you can really make a good observation of size, roundness. If there is iron in the hole with an object that is non ferrous I believe it is a safe bet to dig those secondary deep tones even if you have two or three VDI's coming in while one is centered. This would lead me to believe you could bump the lower ferrous limit up a bit and eliminate a lot of falseing with ferrous objects and junk. The lower VDI limit seems consistent with mineral falseing at higher sensitivity if you are running the detector wide open which may be why they mask 1-4. Again thank you for making the video. My 9 year old daughter who detects with me also loves your videos. Keep the videos coming!
Did I love your videos. Your personality, your voice, the information, your sense of humor. All great!
What you looking at? Anywho... LOL
Really good video. Thanks for putting them together to help us all out. I find myself coming back to yours all the time.
Outstanding job as usual! I really respect your transparency, honesty, and adjusting your conclusions when new information becomes available. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much!
I swung an AT Pro many years, I currently own the Manticore and I love it, but the numbers are all over the board. When I used the AT Pro the ID's were much better at determining what i was about to dig vs my Manticore in my opinion, especially on coins. And it was a 0-100 scale also. With the Manticore i rely more on tones
NICE VIDEO THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT FOR THE TESTING!
Great job Merril it was hard to do all that.Thank you for all the hard work and I enjoyed your video.
Truly appreciate your support Jimmy!
Remember that most of these air tested targets will be amplified when in the ground. Typical silver coins ring in over 90 when they are 5+ inches - I have over 200 silver coins dug with the Manticore. I've also had pennies ring in at 95. I dig all deep targets which come in all over the map and have been surprised many times with quality digs, including gold rings.
It does not detect gold chain and gold coin
@madgieljorro6224 if you use it in beach general, then all the gold is unmasked. Because in all terrain general it is masked. Also you can just take out the mask over the targets 0 to 4 at anytime.
I was just getting ready to suggest numbers maybe off due to soil makeup and depth
The gold is also unmasked in the goldfield and all metal modes.
Nice job Merrill! I appreciate your time and effort as well as getting the kids involved to help get it done!
Thank you!
Thank you so much for going through so much effort to do these tests. I learned a lot but was absolutely sitting here with my mouth agape at it not picking up gold or registering so low.
Unbelievable effort! Thanks for all the time spent! I will be buying the e-book
Dig EVERYTHING!
Purchased and much appreciated! Love your videos, very informative. You can definitely tell you're a teacher and love spreading knowledge and do so effectively and keep it fun to follow along. Cheers Brother!
Thank you Billy!
Brilliant job Merril, well done! I'm not even a MineLab user and I'm enjoying this!!... Thanksalot, Bobby 🙏
Thank you! We have it for the Nox, Deus 2, Legend and Simplex: Metal Detecting Target ID VDI Bibles
ruclips.net/p/PLGwvRoEO86iMN5OK8k-uoMKWpkLLNnIgm
@@MetalDetectingNYC Great stuff! - Thanks M...
I'm happy to buy your guide because I really appreciate the effort you put into doing this. Now I want to make an app for this haha
Thanks Brad!
I just ordered a minelab manticore. I should be getting it in a week. I will definitely get the book you made.
Thank you!
Amen 🙏🏻. Thanks for all you do sir M 🫡
Thanks Carlos!
Wow merril that was lot of testing! Thanks for your hard work I’m going to watch this one over again 😊
Thank you!
Team effort that was amazing to watch thank you 🙏🏻 i am humbled by the enhanced audio forget about target id 😂
Excellent video Merrill. So basically dig everything hahaha. I recently upgraded to a 900 from a vanquish 540. I haven't tapped into the advanced settings yet but im hoping to. I found a Hibernia copper with the 900 at 8 inches. The vanquish also picked up the tone.
I’m in the camp that says all metal and dig everything.
Wow, thank you for taking the time! Thankfully, you had help there at the end!! Love your videos!!!
Thanks Merrill that had to take hours. The take away is dig everything.
Yes and yes!
The positive is that even with a high dicrimination like on coin shooting you still have the chance to find gold. I found a lot of gold with a very high dicrimination on my Deus 2 while i was coin shooting.
The lawn looks great Merrill
Til I get back to my test garden!!!! 😂
Merril, the only thing I care about is I don't want to dig iron. The only guaranteed way to do this is with the Manticore 2d trace. No other machine does it so well.
Very good video Professor Detector. They dig everything here on the beach because of the historical shipwrecks. Sometimes they get gold coins and sometime they get a simple hull nail.
Very interesting and in depth review of objects. Would be interesting to see UK & European objects. But as always dig and get to learn your machine. Still learning the Manticore here but you can edit the lower end of the General all terrain to capture those low numbers.
I learned a lot here. Thank you Merrill! I feel like I may have missed some targets after watching your video. One thing that I would like to point out, not all of the coins paint a tight circle on the non ferrous line. Some of these targets which include silver are fuzzy which may cause some manticore hunters to not dig the target because of the vast range other junky targets registering on the scale. I will adjust my attitude and do what you say, “Dig everything!”
Thank you!
Fantastic description Merrill! Thanks
Thank you friend !
Awesome video Merrill, thanks
I don't do the metal detecting thing.....yet ;) but I sure do love finding old stuff! Great channel!
If your gears are turning and you are thinking about it, give it a try. You find enough to justify the investment.
@@MetalDetectingNYC Thanks for the reply, I would do it just for thrills and adventure. I have a 1938 Dog Tag I found while putting a pool in my yard it been on my key chain ever since. Good luck and stay safe!
Just ordered the Book. Seems like it will be a Great cheat-sheet while learning the Manticore.
Thank you!
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
I bet Merrill's students always get Merrill talking about metal detectors.
Great work Merril. Big job, well done🫡👍
Thank you!
Merryl, Thank you for this class , youre the best, following you from Puerto Rico...
Can’t wait to see these scores change for the new manticore following the update today. Hopefully you can give it a good test soon. 👍🏼
Looks great.
Thanks Merrill!👍
Awesome job on both the video and the E Book!
It’ll be interesting to see the jewellery tested on the jewellery mode rather than all terrain, see if you still think it struggles with the funny shapes at certain angles etc? Or if it’s expecting those features does it then show those differently as you’d expect.
Thanks
Awesome info Merrill. Thanks.
Awesome awesome I'm thinking of buying a Manticore 🎉
What this shows me is Minelab has severely regressed in target ID. The Manticore and Deus2 are nothing but high dollar 'Beep and dig' machines! I have used Minelabs almost exclusively since the early '90's and the CTX was great, the Etrac and Equinox serries are great, but this is a nightmare for target ID! I have a finite amount of digs left and I would like to have a reasonably accurate idea of what is there before I dig a hole!
Remember though, the scale on the Manticore (and the new Equinoxes) go to 99.
If you depend on the Target I D all the time.good luck with that.As far as so you don't have to dig.What you need is a probe and only pick up the targets on top of the ground so you don't have to dig mm
Im making a small vdi sheet of my own including Merrill’s numbers. Laminate it and attach it to my manticore until I learn the general numbers range of the targets
Excellent, the only trouble here is our gold runs at 18 k to the highest of 22 24 k, used to make Royal Family jewellery.
Thanks for the Video Merrill. I was going to buy the e-book but unfortunately I can't use PayPal for payment. I will have to watch your video guide in slow motion 😅
New software updates for Manticore and the 105 headphones are available now. Makes improvements for iron objects identification.
Great Job! Thanks for this video 🙏
Thank you
Seems like there is a wide range of readings even within a single type metal and that an objects shape affects it's signal level. This to me means the best over all digging strategy, as you often say, is to dig whenever there is a beep.
Yes!
I sub and click all the likes. Question #1 Equinox six hundred~ Nokta legend witch one would you use at park?
Thank you. Slight edge to the Equinox 600.
@MetalDetectingNYC ordered noxs 600 now I wait. Last 3 days used Dad old teknicks and had flash back after I slaped it around in the park like a step child found memories.
Great resourceful video. Thank you from CA Gold Country! Have you noticed ID variations depending on depth and soil conditions on the MC?
Depth yes. And soil conditions affect the depth so yes to both. That is true for any metal detector.
I love your graphs.....
I'm seeing the Legend going for 399.00 😳.. just detector alone...
I'm still seeing people asking 200-500 for outdated detectors😅... People watch videos made 6 years ago, and then go bye that outdated detector..... I guess ya gotta start out somewhere....
Detector history.
Tesoro Siver Umax
Nokta Coinfinder
Whites DFX
Fisher f19
Minelab equinox 600.
Looking at upgrading my AT Pro I have a Tesero Tejan as well. Looks like it’ll be a minelab just from the power those things have. You think manticore over Equinox? Price isn’t a issue. Thanks for the vids man keep it up
If price isn’t an issue yes. Slight advantage to Manticore.
@@MetalDetectingNYC that’s all I need to know thanks.
Thanks for sharing Merrill〽
Good stuff.
Look at your Ace Garrett and they also show gold going way up....but not in the iron low range ..are the users of that missing the gold in the 00 threw 10 on it as well.
I havent done this study on the Apex yet. Interesting question.
ty for info
I would like to see the rings on beach low conductor to see if stabilizes.
The stability depends on the quality of the surface. Ideally there is a uniform flat surface like coins. Rings are anything but that. But jumpy numbers can also help us inference that it is something out of the ordinary.
Amazing video!!
Thank you!
awesome Video !!!!! Huge Help !! Thank You
Merrill if you had to pick which areas on the manticore needed improving.where would you start for the next update.
Greetings Merrill, Nox 900 do you have tid bible for it? I assume M'core is different even thought they have the same tid range?
The coil see each little link instead of seeing its total mass as a solid piece. Thats why gold bracelets are tough to see. Small chains can disappear in salt because it falls in that salt conductivity range. Thats where a pulse inductor rules over any VLF. I used to find so many chains and earrings when I hunted with the Surf Pro PI using a 950 coil. The VLF's cant compete but at least youre not digging 50 iron BB's or rust blotches. I dont think a tiny chain is worth the time lost digging so much crap iron. Plus it limits the amount of good targets you can dig in that day. But when theres spots without heavy iron I still break out the pulse inductor because its hard to skunk that detector
Hopefully you have had more time to test the manticore, be good if you could update your website on how the manticore performs?
I'm from across the pond, and a minelab fan, but still not sure whether to upgrade from the nox
Hi Peter. I do love the Manticore. But the question is, do you want to spent 800 dollars over the price of the 800 for 2-3% more performance. Or should you wait until there is a replacement for the CTX3030. I have heard nothing about the 3030 replacement, but does it make sense that a FBS detector sits at the top of the Minelab (treasure detector) price points in a Multi IQ dominant world.
So, did best results in finding gold jewelry, leave the horse shoe icon on? New to the Manticore and watching this to best get my unit dialed in.
Thanks.
Hey great video as always! Question for ya i have the equinox 800 and wondering if its worth getting the 15 inch coil over using the 11 inch on fields?
Thank you! It depends on how separated the targets are. You get more depth with a bigger coil and less separation. Personally I love my 15 inch coil.
Do one for the vanquish 540, and I'll buy the first one
No problem with the VDI bouncing I'm in the ocean all summer, can't see the screen
You have a nice backyard lol
Hello, Merrill. I hope you'll have the chance to try the Fisher Impulse-AQ. I'd like to have your opinion on this one too. Best regards and happy hunting.
That one has been on my radar but I dont see too many people using it. I dont have an unlimited budget and I try to reinvest in machines that are buzzing. I would say that the Quest Multi and Rutus Multi detectors are higher on the list right now. But thank you for the request. It is definitely noted!
What frequency is the detector using when it displays the VDI? Does it change or does the Manticore "normalize" the frequencies to display the reading off of one set frequency?
I did the test in multi
What device do you recommend to use, especially in the Middle East? Note that our region is full of rocks and basalts that give the same effect on Metal.
Deus 2 is the most adjustable detector.
I bet my legend would pull a wheaty from that walkway
Based on the heart pendants ID, awful sound and really bad 2d screen shape, I would not have dug it. I guess I need to reconsider passing those up
Hola friend no inglish but I detect in pelham and in orchard..and I like to meet you one day teacher learn some spanish.thank amigo don't forget me .I am very good friend.
Looking forward to meeting you!
hey i have a beach hunter. things dinging like crazy. where do u suggest getting it recalibrated. is this something i can do myself and how.
That happened to mine before whites went under. I had them fix it. I think Garrett is still servicing Whites machines?
Are these numbers close to the new 700/900?
Identical
Sei mega galattico che super test di numerazioni su manticore 🥰😊 e sul geim 😃😮😮😲😲 uau gia provato ma con cqesto che ai fatto il ranger I
E' piu vasto di tantissimi offerti e materiali e spessori molto molto differenti 🤓🧐😎😎😎 un bel super 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤗🤗🤗😁😁😁 anche io sono esperto parecchio ma tu batti me 😉 il manticore 🥰 lo prendo con aggiornamento che dovrebbe arrivare fa un po 🤓🤓😏😏poi ci vado tutti i giorni al mare per capire in fretta tutto e di piu 🧐😎😎😎 buona fortuna 🤗🤗☘️🍀☘️🍀 per tutto e di piu 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🖖🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Matteo!
Do you own a minelab sovereign gt.? Is it good to rate. It's older but still minelab sell the excalibur same bbs technology.
I do but strangely I’ve never used it. The shaft broke while shipping and I never replaced the shaft. It’s going to happen someday.
Can you do one for the Minelab Vanquish 550?
Possibly. Thanks for the request. It’s multiple days of work to do a target id bible and this one is off to a slow start. The 550 has similar vid’s to the Equinox for the time being.
💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
Hello friend, very nice video!! But I have to say you something, here in Argentina the most gold finds are 18 K and ID numbers go from 13 to 25 in small pieces and the large ones with weight with 18 grams gives you a ID of 63-64. With my Manticore I dont have chance of getting chains of gold or silver, the Manticore dont read anyone. I am working allways in sand laggons with some mineralization and is hard to take calm the detector, perhaps I dont know to much to calm down. The program I use frequently is Beach Low Conductive, with Fast Recover of 3-4 to 6-7. Ferrous limit upper thin line and low line in Zero, Discrimination only column 1. Also I do the same like you making air test but ID numbers change a lot when pieces are underground. Did you know how to get the more powerful of the detector to get deep pieces in mineralization sand? Regards from Argentina. Ricardo.-
I have a couple questions and maybe I can offer you a suggestion to try. Are the lagoons salt water or is it brackish water where a fresh water river runs out into the salt water so it's more ground minerals that's a problem and not salt/ black sand. Assuming it's higher salt levels try these few suggestions first. What can it hurt right? First don't crank your power all the way up. Start out around 75% to 80% max. In mineralized salt you will NEVER be able to crank it up to full power on any detector. Use a program with a lower frequency around the 10kHz frequency or which ever the Manticore has that's close to that. Don't believe that the higher the frequency the better on low conductive targets because that is on dry land or fresh water without magnetic black sand. And it's more for tiny low conductive targets like small nuggets so the 10kHz is good for gold and it will push deeper in the ground in salt and magnetic sand then higher frequencies can. Then back down on your recovery speed to around 2 or 3. Again you aren't looking for tiny nuggets amongst heavy trash there's no reason to run it fast that loses depth quick. Now here's a tip that will sound crazy but try it and see if it doesn't quiet things down. Discriminate out your first few lowest positive ID numbers on the VDI meaning only accept +4 and up. There's very little gold there and what is at those low numbers is so small it's not worth losing depth and stability over to miss better rings. The reason you need to eliminate those low positive numbers is because salt water gives a false signal in those numbers if you accept them so if you cut them out the detector should stabilize greatly just from that one tip. And don't run auto trac unless you can control the tracking speed which should be at least 60% or on 6 if it goes to 10. If you don't have a trac speed adjustment than do a manual balance and lock that down. But if you hunt in the water then come out on the sand re balance it to the sand with the salt out of the equation. Turn your iron disc down then as you detect slowly raise it if you are hitting iron or bottle caps. And I wouldn't rely on the VDI numbers dig every solid signal even if it's weak if you hit it steady then dig it too many things can change those numbers under water in mineralized and iron trashy ground. The first and most important thing is to get it stable and smooth. Next see if you can inch the power up and it stays quiet but not up 10 points try only 3 at a time and find it's sweet spot. And remember to keep the recovery speed low unless when you hit a target it pinpoints to the side if you see that happen bump recovery up only 1 number and see if it fixes that. Use your ear and dig targets you hear the detector is locking on or trying to whisper over the same spot repeatedly. And only watch the ID for reference but don't swear by those numbers. See if that quiets things down for you and gets good depth. If you're getting small nails bump the disc up a notch. If you dig big iron but not small iron just dig them Minelabs not exactly the greatest at ignoring big iron don't blank a deep ring trying to disc out big iron there's probably not a ton of big iron where it won't hurt you to dig 3 or 4 pieces at the risk of losing a thin diamond ring.
Good luck and try that for at least an hour or two and see if she isn't much smoother where your not losing depth and getting angry over it falsing. I think you're gonna be fine. If it works reply back on how you did. I bet you see that you'll at least start hitting some silver chains now too
Good Luck
@@jeanponce2017 thanks for taking time to answer my problems. You aré the first person that take Time to answer. Thanks
Jean Ponce knows his stuff! I have mentioned his comments in videos before! It is a privilege to have him commenting here.
But what happens when all this stuff is detected at depth, say 6 inches deep. Realistically most peeps aren't lucky enough to find an area where all coins and good stuff is only 2 to 3 inches deep.
Not just the Manticore, pretty much any reputable detector can get an accurate read at 6 inches.
You might be sweeping a little too fast. Slow it down with lower recovery numbers and you have to be hitting 6 inches that's reasonable for even low end detectors and thats where things/finds start getting good unless your in a farm field that gets turned up. The Ace 250 will hit a 6 inch coin and it's far from a high end detector.
Hey bud, I’m about to order the e-book. What is the promo code?
Thank you!
which machine has best target id
This one www.amazon.com/Kidzlane-Detector-Handheld-Full-Size-Detects/dp/B07QG3LNKB/ref=asc_df_B07QG3LNKB/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=343252281089&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4344194506448012260&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004440&hvtargid=pla-739516452166&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=71716338209&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=343252281089&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4344194506448012260&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004440&hvtargid=pla-739516452166
Awesome video as always Sir Merrell you out did your self this time, many of us have been watching and waiting for this video, again an amazing job, Mr Merell could you please send me your Mexican buddy Jose from Mexico his name of RUclips channel, i,d appreciate it, again awesome video
Thank you! Jose’s channel was Deteccion Caribe.
Your passing the targets across the coil in the wrong direction ! The way you have the coil positioned you should be passing the targets up and down to take advantage of the double D coil !
That's why you always circle your targets when detecting.
Pass the target completely across the coil , check your VDI and then once more and check again.
Don't wiggle the targets on the center of the coil.
That will make the IDs jump all over the place.
Merril do you have a Patreon?
Not yet
@@MetalDetectingNYC when/if you do, I'll be the first to join! Love your videos and I learn a ton from watching. Thanks!
Hunting with a full moon will change many signals.
So in inclusion, dig everything
Basically just dig everything whit a clean tone whit no iron. .
Have you done this for the 900 yet?
800 600 yes.....700 900 no
@@MetalDetectingNYC well whats the hold up...
@@MetalDetectingNYC lol
That bug is 49…. LOL
Bro, I have allot of respect for teachers, and i enjoy all your content. Thank you, but how the hell do you opine on a metal detector you don't own? AKA - Minelab Excal II ? Take your lil , F'king Deus II submerge it under 200' of water and see how that's going to go for you. The Excall II has MULITI Tones and it fully discriminates iron, 100%. the BLIND can use an Excall II because it is driven by TONE - And what's up with the condemn you have on your pin pointer?
So..
Is this detector a pile of doo doo or not?
Not at all. I think it is slightly more capable than the Equinox. But not enough to justify the price difference.
lame video of you pushing a overpriced machine again When you are going to start doing videos with the Nokta Legend again? It like you don't ever use that machine anymore.
Then fuck off and find another channel. The legend is an excellent detector, but I did this process already on the legend. The legend blows everything away in value. It is a top end detector. But it is not as capable as a Manticore. When I detect, I try to use machines that give me the best chance to succeed. A Legend is 95% of Manticore or Deus 2. If you want someone to say that the Legend is better you’ll find plenty of (incorrect) channels that do that. Bye!
@@MetalDetectingNYC The video was great, but this reply right here... this is what got me to like and subscribe lol
I saw no Bible sir lol
Here you go:: www.iratemetaldetectors.com/product-page/minelab-manticore-target-id-bible