Clarky.... your editing skills makes you one of the best you tubers out there! Love the old pics and the sounds effects you add... not to mention the superb content! Stay safe!!
The picture at 3:05 is my mum (holding the Davy lamp) and my Grandad on the far right. My grandad was a caretaker of the hall and museum in the 60s and my mum grew up there before they moved to Longford hall (Longford park) in Stretford! It’s amazing you’ve got this picture, we’ve got the newspaper cutting at home!
Oh brilliant that's made my day that thanks I'm glad there was a little surprise in the video for you. If you need the emailing don't hesitate to give us a shout as we keep all the pics we source.All THE best TUC
Thank you Clarky for another awesome video.....The Dr Who music made me LOL.....you always manage to put a smile on my face.....Looking forward to the next one :) Much love from NZ x
My dad lived in Eccles as a kid, I’ve just asked him about this and he said, when we was around 10 years old about 1971... The building had a double glazed window that housed a bee hive between the window panes... He said him and friends would visit it often to see it and he remembers the building well
Thanks for reminding me about the bees. I’d completely forgot about them. Not surprising really as I must nearly the same age as your dad but left Eccles nearly 45 years ago.
@@razzo15 I’m 58 and left in 77. I think Monks Hall was probably my favourite place to visit as a kid as there was lots of model soldiers and historical military battle exhibitions.. There used to be a little hall by Eccles bus depot that would put on exhibitions of model boats and sometimes model trains sets. Be Well.
I lived in Monton from 1959 aged 6 until 1965. My friend lived in huge Victorian house on Monks Hall Grove, the owner his father had huge demolition company, he said there was a tunnel in his garden to Monks Hall (Then a museum) we would visit and a wonderful man the curator would show us the beehive and talk to us about the artefacts the man was notable by having only one arm. Your videos are getting better and better very, atmospheric many thanks
Another great edit Clarky 👌 The blue box by Hardy & Padmore Ltd is what's known as a "feeder pillar" and correctly as some have commented is a cabinet for electrical equipment, mounted in the street and controlling the electrical supply to a number of houses etc. Dates back to around the 1920s so also possibly to do with the old trams 👍
That blue pillar were called Lucy boxes they feed a power source to run the trams and trolley buses, the square ones were called feeder boxes they were to power street lights
Great video once again. The electrical box looks like an old transformer box for the old tramways. There is one at the trough at Audenshaw near to where I live. It has listed building status.
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt I've not heard of it being knocked over. It is a similar to what was in your video. Same colour but slightly bigger. The horsing trough was hit by a car but that was years ago.
Maybe it's an old electrical box? This company made decorative poles, street lamps, electrical boxes etc. Absolutely fantastic video. Very interesting exploration.🎥❤👍🏻
Thank you, Lady, and yeah I reckon you could be right an old transformer box. We found a very similar looking object which indeed was one! Anyway have a nice weekend thank you for tuning in.
Thank you dude believe it or not the only shot Id seen prior to doing it was the first exterior everything else like the windiw scene etc was pure fluke. But thats the challenge I like really.
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt :) I've just had a read up on its history here historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1162896 and here salfordhistory.blogspot.com/2017/02/monks-hall-museum-eccles.html interesting stuff.
What happens with these old buildings some developers buy them and deliberately leave them to rot etc then they can show its not viable to lests say rebuild the damage so they get planning permission to pull it down then and build what they want as the listed status is just applied to the building its a damn shame this is allowed to happen
When it opened as a museum my uncles christening gown was on display here 🥺 often wonder what came of it. Eccles is an absolute shit hole but this building was so beautiful! Sadly it’s gone now
I used to work there as a chef...... And tonight had a drive past and seen the state of it,then I stumbled on your video. Going in the cellar was always weird. There was a few different places in the cellar were passages had been bricked up.
Bearing in mind this building has it's beginnings in the 1200s, it's criminal that the council have allowed it to rot. It should have been listed and restored.
I really loved this place when I was a kid. I remember seeing some very strange and interesting exhibitions there in the early to mid seventies all for free.
That is salford councils fault It is a listed building And they just let it rot. Men were seen moving ridge tiles and stone copings on the roof To let the water in. That was before the fire.
Monks hall eccles dates back to 1418 it has been many different things ie museum, restaurant etc, a bloke bought it in 2002 to build flats but didnt get permission as it was a listed building, then it was vandalised and set on fire.
Went in the 60s as a kid with my mum, on the way to my weekly stay at my Nana's in Winton. All I remember was the bees behind the glass. Now I'm more interested in local history it's too late to revisit the place 😢
There was a similar cast iron electrical box at The Trough junction in Audenshaw. It was an electrical transformer for Manchester Tram Corporation. Sadly it was demolished by a car a few weeks ago. The ancient horse trough was also destroyed.
That blue cast iron object is a service box for either gas or electricity, Known in some parts of the uk as a lucy box or as I would say lecky box .another great vlog 👍🤘👌
Cheers Nidge and yes it is pal we actuaslly tracvd its origin on facebook and found old photos of its original position feeding power to the tramlines!
St Mary's Church is older, at least the Brickwork but it was partially rebuilt in 1820. It dates back to 1300s. Monk's hall dates back to around 1700. The oldest know manmade 'structure' is in 'The Three Sisters Park' with 3 rocks dating to roman times, and a roman footpath.
The place was certainly active in the 1300s. In latter years ( probably 70/80s) it was a museum, and in 1997 became a restaurant for five years. It was then scheduled to be redeveloped into flats, but that never happened and fell into the final disrepair. It is another example of Salford Council’s attitude towards history, and were never concerned about it. Their only concern was making money, which brought about “Media City.” It is still a terrible crime ridden city.
I believe it was listed so like we've seen before they let it rot until they can take it down. Chinese billionaire bought the Royal Oak in Eccles but didn't know that was listed (including bar) so he's left that to rot now
I've heard the rumours of tunnels which go through the old Hare & Hounds, Grapes to Monks Hall and I believe the cellars of those pubs (Hares now pound shop) have bricked up entrances
Clarky. How about the Lancastrian Hall in Swinton?heard they are know going to knock it down.my mother in law won the competition in the Swinton journal when it was built to name it!.cheers Dave
I've been planning on doing it for a while Dave as my Grandad worked there. Somebody offered me the keys to do a video but they haven't got back to me yet. I actually went past it again last week and no luck. It will be getting done though pal no question.
Good video clarky i used to pass this building in the 90's at the time it was a monks hall museum after that i did hear it was to become a restaurant but i dont think it last long that blue pillar box thing not sure what that is like the tardis bit at the end tho lol
Looking on Google that pillar box could have been something to do with the trams back in the day, that could be worth something restored so hope they don't scrap it
The Hardy and Padmore blue tower was made in Worcester. I’ve seen very similar ones from them and they are used as laundry and hot air stoves. If it was, I think it’s been altered for electrical components rather than destroyed to keep the history.
This particular one was called a lucy box and was actually originally found a few streets away feeding power to the trams. On our facebook page we made a post about it and I think theres also a monks hall album showing it in an original photo.
Unfortunately not everyone entering the grounds is sensible or benign, as seen from the graffiti and the fire damage (arson). The owner is actually a sound guy, he's just gutted what's been done to the place. The blue box is an old feeder pillar box, an electrical box to house power supply, very swank back in those days.
Yeah it's actually a Lucy box i believe this particular one was taken from just around the corner and was related to the trams. we have numerous albums on FB showing where it once stood and featuring photography from all our explores.
That fire damage was terrible 🤔 i grew up on monks hall grove and heard about the mysterious fires. Funny how even in the basement there was still no fire damage. Did u see the 2nd basement or was that also inaccessible?
I thought the blue thing was a post box then it looked like an electrical junction box. Research old post box and junction boxes plus the Leicester manufacturer and could get a jar ah glue.
@@doravernon1511 Thanks miss unfortunately though I reckon it will be knocked down. I'm glad you commented anyway because I've just got back from two Church explores that would be right down your street. Stunning' especially seeing the entire Northwest lit up from the bell tower ;) the other one looked like something out of Fallout or escape from New York!
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt that was an old cutting, showing someone wanted to develop the building to no avail: i will look forward to your next uploads. Kind regards.
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Clarky.... your editing skills makes you one of the best you tubers out there! Love the old pics and the sounds effects you add... not to mention the superb content! Stay safe!!
Thank you Ian I really do appreciate that m8. I dont make the videos for me or for money I do it for people and for the history.
The picture at 3:05 is my mum (holding the Davy lamp) and my Grandad on the far right.
My grandad was a caretaker of the hall and museum in the 60s and my mum grew up there before they moved to Longford hall (Longford park) in Stretford!
It’s amazing you’ve got this picture, we’ve got the newspaper cutting at home!
Oh brilliant that's made my day that thanks I'm glad there was a little surprise in the video for you. If you need the emailing don't hesitate to give us a shout as we keep all the pics we source.All THE best TUC
Thank you Clarky for another awesome video.....The Dr Who music made me LOL.....you always manage to put a smile on my face.....Looking forward to the next one :) Much love from NZ x
Then my job here is done m8. Thank you very much Karen all the best
Crazy to think that place was a beautiful restaurant only around 20/25 years ago
My dad lived in Eccles as a kid, I’ve just asked him about this and he said, when we was around 10 years old about 1971...
The building had a double glazed window that housed a bee hive between the window panes...
He said him and friends would visit it often to see it and he remembers the building well
Thats why I put the bees in on the intro m8 Ive heard many a story of this allthough I didnt get to it myself!
Thanks for reminding me about the bees. I’d completely forgot about them. Not surprising really as I must nearly the same age as your dad but left Eccles nearly 45 years ago.
@@mrnobodyz my dad is 59, born in Irlam, lived in Eccles until about 18 I think
@@razzo15 I’m 58 and left in 77. I think Monks Hall was probably my favourite place to visit as a kid as there was lots of model soldiers and historical military battle exhibitions.. There used to be a little hall by Eccles bus depot that would put on exhibitions of model boats and sometimes model trains sets. Be Well.
Its amazing how the original wooden front door had not been touched at all by the fire.
I lived in Monton from 1959 aged 6 until 1965. My friend lived in huge Victorian house on Monks Hall Grove, the owner his father had huge demolition company, he said there was a tunnel in his garden to Monks Hall (Then a museum) we would visit and a wonderful man the curator would show us the beehive and talk to us about the artefacts the man was notable by having only one arm. Your videos are getting better and better very, atmospheric many thanks
Nice one Terry I'm glad you think that pal all the best. Ps I wonder if the tunnel still exists....
I also lived in Monks Hall Grove as a child, Very happy days.
Growing up in Monton in the 70's, I visited the museum many times both with school groups and friends. So sad to see what has become of it.
Another great edit Clarky 👌 The blue box by Hardy & Padmore Ltd is what's known as a "feeder pillar" and correctly as some have commented is a cabinet for electrical equipment, mounted in the street and controlling the electrical supply to a number of houses etc. Dates back to around the 1920s so also possibly to do with the old trams 👍
Cracking cheers Mark.
That blue pillar were called Lucy boxes they feed a power source to run the trams and trolley buses, the square ones were called feeder boxes they were to power street lights
Interesting, thanks
Great video once again. The electrical box looks like an old transformer box for the old tramways. There is one at the trough at Audenshaw near to where I live. It has listed building status.
Is that the one that got knocked ovee by a car very recently? Black and gold I think it was?
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt I've not heard of it being knocked over. It is a similar to what was in your video. Same colour but slightly bigger. The horsing trough was hit by a car but that was years ago.
Whether people like it or not, I think Its important to document the history of your explorations.
Thanks m8.
Great presentation, thanks, I often wonder about this place when I’m passing, your video along with all the comments gave me the answers, great job
@bernardmcmahon351 Yeah I like to see my films and the comments as a kind of archive without the comments the films would be nothing!
I really enjoy the history at the beginning of the videos! Gives it context
Thank you Sian.
Maybe it's an old electrical box? This company made decorative poles, street lamps, electrical boxes etc. Absolutely fantastic video. Very interesting exploration.🎥❤👍🏻
Thank you, Lady, and yeah I reckon you could be right an old transformer box. We found a very similar looking object which indeed was one! Anyway have a nice weekend thank you for tuning in.
Yes maybe some sort of ‘ electric junction/ equipment’
Your production skills get better and better with each vid Clarky. I love the past and present shots.
Thank you dude believe it or not the only shot Id seen prior to doing it was the first exterior everything else like the windiw scene etc was pure fluke. But thats the challenge I like really.
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt :) I've just had a read up on its history here historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1162896 and here salfordhistory.blogspot.com/2017/02/monks-hall-museum-eccles.html interesting stuff.
What happens with these old buildings some developers buy them and deliberately leave them to rot etc then they can show its not viable to lests say rebuild the damage so they get planning permission to pull it down then and build what they want as the listed status is just applied to the building its a damn shame this is allowed to happen
Yup they wait till they can deem it completely unsafe then knock it down. Even listed status means nothing these days pal
I thought that
When it opened as a museum my uncles christening gown was on display here 🥺 often wonder what came of it. Eccles is an absolute shit hole but this building was so beautiful!
Sadly it’s gone now
Very amazing video well done and keep up the great work
I used to work there as a chef...... And tonight had a drive past and seen the state of it,then I stumbled on your video. Going in the cellar was always weird. There was a few different places in the cellar were passages had been bricked up.
Yeah I heard that meself pal aparently the motoray below replaced one of the tunnels. Anyway, thanks for commenting m8 glad you found the vid.
Bearing in mind this building has it's beginnings in the 1200s, it's criminal that the council have allowed it to rot. It should have been listed and restored.
I love the soulful music for this video. 👍
Thanks Gwyn glad you enjoying the films m8 x
Excellent as usual, history with a sense of humour whilst being sensible as well! Your like a Lane Rover as you got above and beyond
Cheers brother I appreciate it m8!
I really loved this place when I was a kid. I remember seeing some very strange and interesting exhibitions there in the early to mid seventies all for free.
That is salford councils fault It is a listed building And they just let it rot. Men were seen moving ridge tiles and stone copings on the roof To let the water in. That was before the fire.
No question
Great video, so sad that this place is in this state.
loved this place as a child, thanks for the upload
Our pleasure!
Monks hall eccles dates back to 1418 it has been many different things ie museum, restaurant etc, a bloke bought it in 2002 to build flats but didnt get permission as it was a listed building, then it was vandalised and set on fire.
Yep Ive seen it before m8' them mysterious fires...
Thanks for the history pal.
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt no problem mate
Yes as per my post it gets left to rot away then they can apply for permission to knock it down as its not viable to rebuild
Yea definitely let go deliberately so eventually the owners will get what they want?? Just wondering
Superb Clarky loved it, well done mate..
Thanks Brian
Used to remember visiting the museum when I was a kid so sad to see it’s demeanour great video thank you so much
Pleasure Jim thanjs for watching and sharing your history pal.
good little mooch that Clarky the doll theres always one lol great editing as usual Stay Safe mate
As long as they dont sit up n wave at me Im good lol
Went in the 60s as a kid with my mum, on the way to my weekly stay at my Nana's in Winton. All I remember was the bees behind the glass. Now I'm more interested in local history it's too late to revisit the place 😢
Joke how its' been left to rot!!!
Once again a great video, I used to live in Monton, many thanks for doing this
Thank you Colin.
Mint vid clarky u go above n beyond for our viewing pleasure take it easy ... tone ashworth
Thank you To e it is a pleasure to do.
Thx for going in there so we could see it.
Pleasure m8.
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt you will be suprized to know that it is still standing. Very sad to see it in such a state of disrepair.
There was a similar cast iron electrical box at The Trough junction in Audenshaw. It was an electrical transformer for Manchester Tram Corporation. Sadly it was demolished by a car a few weeks ago. The ancient horse trough was also destroyed.
Yeah, I saw that m8 I reckon it was one of those then.
That blue cast iron object is a service box for either gas or electricity, Known in some parts of the uk as a lucy box or as I would say lecky box .another great vlog 👍🤘👌
Cheers Nidge and yes it is pal we actuaslly tracvd its origin on facebook and found old photos of its original position feeding power to the tramlines!
What a cool building ashame it's in a state that tardis thing looks interesting I'm gunna have a look see what it is
Transformer we reckon dude.
St Mary's Church is older, at least the Brickwork but it was partially rebuilt in 1820. It dates back to 1300s. Monk's hall dates back to around 1700. The oldest know manmade 'structure' is in 'The Three Sisters Park' with 3 rocks dating to roman times, and a roman footpath.
Cheers m8
Another great video brother,the blue box has got me scratching my head. It could of been an old police telephone box, just a guess.
Turns out pal it was an old Lucy box that helped power trams back in the day!
When I was a kid I use to visit the museum, the dolls in the basement are from one of the rooms in there full of old creepy dolls
I ate in that place in the early 90s. I had duck. It was nice. As a kid, the school in Monton I attended took us there to see the museum in the 70s.
Brilliant thanks for sharing your history.
The place was certainly active in the 1300s. In latter years ( probably 70/80s) it was a museum, and in 1997 became a restaurant for five years. It was then scheduled to be redeveloped into flats, but that never happened and fell into the final disrepair. It is another example of Salford Council’s attitude towards history, and were never concerned about it. Their only concern was making money, which brought about “Media City.” It is still a terrible crime ridden city.
Love Eccles cakes, from NZ.
Could you try and get into that theatre thing in Eccles, I’d love to know what that looks like!!😆
Allready done that one m8.
Remember when it was in use.. looking forward to seeing the state it's in now
I dont think you'll be happy with what you see m8... :(
I believe it was listed so like we've seen before they let it rot until they can take it down. Chinese billionaire bought the Royal Oak in Eccles but didn't know that was listed (including bar) so he's left that to rot now
I've heard the rumours of tunnels which go through the old Hare & Hounds, Grapes to Monks Hall and I believe the cellars of those pubs (Hares now pound shop) have bricked up entrances
Yeah I dont doubt it pal I have since doen a bit of research and a lot of people seem to think one of them was cut off by the motorway!
Hahaha the basement part! Made me laugh
pmsl
Excellent stuff 👍
Clarky. How about the Lancastrian Hall in Swinton?heard they are know going to knock it down.my mother in law won the competition in the Swinton journal when it was built to name it!.cheers Dave
I've been planning on doing it for a while Dave as my Grandad worked there. Somebody offered me the keys to do a video but they haven't got back to me yet. I actually went past it again last week and no luck.
It will be getting done though pal no question.
Good video clarky i used to pass this building in the 90's at the time it was a monks hall museum after that i did hear it was to become a restaurant but i dont think it last long that blue pillar box thing not sure what that is like the tardis bit at the end tho lol
Lol I couldnt resist lol allthough my special fx leave a lot ot be desired pmsl
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt sure does mate
Another one of our treasured buildings lost. Council should be ashamed of themselves
Looking on Google that pillar box could have been something to do with the trams back in the day, that could be worth something restored so hope they don't scrap it
Dont hold your breath pal...we actually think it might have been a transformer at some point but I guess well never know.
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt One that looks like this mentions trams and 'lucyboxes' www.historywebsite.co.uk/articles/lucy/lucyboxes2.htm
Nice one
The Hardy and Padmore blue tower was made in Worcester.
I’ve seen very similar ones from them and they are used as laundry and hot air stoves.
If it was, I think it’s been altered for electrical components rather than destroyed to keep the history.
This particular one was called a lucy box and was actually originally found a few streets away feeding power to the trams. On our facebook page we made a post about it and I think theres also a monks hall album showing it in an original photo.
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt excellent.
Let’s hope it didn’t go live if the cables failed 🤣
@@razzo15 Lol
Unfortunately not everyone entering the grounds is sensible or benign, as seen from the graffiti and the fire damage (arson). The owner is actually a sound guy, he's just gutted what's been done to the place.
The blue box is an old feeder pillar box, an electrical box to house power supply, very swank back in those days.
Yeah it's actually a Lucy box i believe this particular one was taken from just around the corner and was related to the trams. we have numerous albums on FB showing where it once stood and featuring photography from all our explores.
That fire damage was terrible 🤔 i grew up on monks hall grove and heard about the mysterious fires. Funny how even in the basement there was still no fire damage. Did u see the 2nd basement or was that also inaccessible?
Inaccessible when I went m8 unfortunately. Perhaps that is what I could see through the gap?
Loved it
Thanks for watching Garfield I appreciate that m8!
So looking to this.
Wish I could get that
I thought the blue thing was a post box then it looked like an electrical junction box. Research old post box and junction boxes plus the Leicester manufacturer and could get a jar ah glue.
Its a Lucy Box ;)
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt Well I never! What's a Lucy box ? Pray tell old beaneth, pray tell! Thanketh yee.
Love see a vid collab u n martin zero
Ive heard that quite a few times now m8 lol.
Yeah there's lots of secret monk holes and secret doors in the in that place
Half of Eccles is abandoned now.
It’s an electrical junction box ,
What a tragedy
Good old Salford council
Clouncil ;)
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt sorry mate I can't spell for toffee.
Info here: salfordhistory.blogspot.com/2017/02/monks-hall-museum-eccles.html
What will today's buildings be like in a few hundred years' time? Just steel girders and plaster board walls.
:(
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/developers-frustration-at-delays-to-plans-to-revamp-862169
@@doravernon1511 Thanks miss unfortunately though I reckon it will be knocked down. I'm glad you commented anyway because I've just got back from two Church explores that would be right down your street. Stunning' especially seeing the entire Northwest lit up from the bell tower ;) the other one looked like something out of Fallout or escape from New York!
@@TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt that was an old cutting, showing someone wanted to develop the building to no avail: i will look forward to your next uploads. Kind regards.
@@doravernon1511 Yeah I read it m8 thanks x
Police box
Lucy Box