Saving Mediolanum from Biggest Invasion in Caesar 3 | The City Building Doctor
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- Today's patient is Mediolanum in Caesar III. Map submitted by Ritesh! The largest invasion happens one month away from the save and there are no defences and an incomplete army. We have to stop the invasion and I show a few tricks to get better results! Submit your city by messaging me on Discord or posting to the city-building channel on the Zakhcolyte Discord server: / discord Want to buy Caesar 3 (or other games) AND support this channel? Use this GOG referral link! af.gog.com/gam...
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Thanks Ritesh for sharing! This was an interesting challenge to stop Mediolanum's biggest invasion with only a 1 month warning and no defensive structures and an incomplete military. Managed to show off some tricks and techniques! Want to buy Caesar 3 (or other games) AND support this channel? Use this GOG referral link! af.gog.com/game/caesar_3?as=1715648857
GamerZakh thanks Zakh.
I guess I always recognise that I was going to lose anyway before it happened and either restarted or reloaded before I ever got fired.
in the map editor, there is a setting that when the requirements haven't been completed within a certain period, you lose automatically (and it shows that same cinematic)
zakh, you have to time ur troops better so they dont stand there too long b4 the fight. they lose courage from it and lose.
Only problem with this game is that it doesnt have multiplayer... i def think not having multiplayer holds this game back a lot, probably would be more interesting competitive rts compared to age of empires....
i just rediscovered it today, was pleasantly surprised how well it has aged...
Forcing the homeless to join the army and using the police as meat shields. Got it!
This is something that Cartman would do!
So, the US?
He said don't take it out of context. Get it.
"We can take advantage of the homeless" -GamerZakh
Don't take that statement out of context - ok hehehe
lol
1:40 applaud that horn blower very dedicated to his job
Underrated comment 🤣
11:57 And the Roman Commander. Don't forget the Roman Commander
Legionnaires fight better when facing the enemy. In this video, they’re facing the wrong way, that’s one of the reasons they get butchered so easily. I read this in the c3 readme/guide booklet.
TU TUN TU TUN TU TUN TU TUN TUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTU TUN TU TUN TU TUN TU TUN TU TUN TUTUTUTUTUTUTU TUN TUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTU TUN TU TUN
Getting fired means Losing the Game! (Caesars Favour has nothing to do with it)
It only happens when ...
-about 75% of your city (or population) is destroyed by an enemy invasion
-or 75% of your city (or population) is destroyed by Caesars invasion
-you ran out of time limit (only in custom scenarios)
-you have no house built yet but an enemy army appears
TRIVIA:
-You can delete all houses at any point in the game without getting fired (unless an army appears as above descripted)
-The text is supposed to be spoken by Caesar itself (appears in the Caesar3-files but never in the game)
-I often managed to have forts in the middle of a city and get the whole city destroyed but never loose the game (So I had over 500 enemies at once on the map)
Hope for everyone reading this gave a little bit of an in-depth information
Thanks! It's good to know the actual stats for what triggers it. I never got to those points before as I think I always recognise that I post before I get the fired message.
Been playing Caesar III since it first came out, only been fired twice and I think both were in Carthago.
Ceaser 3 is not just a game. Its more like nostalgia at its best ❤️
Hey Zakh I have been following you and love the way you organize your city. Me & my mom both are die hard fans of Ceaser 3. Please try to make more Ceaser 3 videos whenever possible. Thanks & God bless.
@@amitkrmajumdar3633 Hey thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying it. I make new Caesar 3 videos now and then, just released one a few days ago.
1:40 - 1:52, the Carthagian national hymn. Tadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadada-da-daaa!
Dude this game is too f good to our comprehension
11:40 - 11:43 the legionare: RAN TENDER! RAN TENDER!
i first played Caesar III in 1999 still playing today
Started in 2004, this game lit!
Are u as good as Zahk
U have solved one of my life’s grand mysteries , 19 years later and I randomly checked on this.... holy fuck life is unpredictable
Glad I could help with that!
Ah, Caesar 3 was HEAVEN for me ! :) One of my favourite games all time. I built towers and ballistas here, plus of course the legionaries.
I fought ceaser and hannibal at the same time in this map
Same! It was pretty awesome beating both but I could never hit those ratings as a kid.
GamerZakh "using the homeless is good"
What a great video! Caesar 3 takes me way back - I remember playing it at my friend's on his dad's chunky IBM laptop backin... 99 or 2000. What a great game.
We can take advantage of the homeless to strengthen the army.
Gaius Marius : "furious scribbling"
hey Zakh, have you thought about maybe trying to get in touch with anybody from the original developers of these Impressions games and maybe doing an interview with them? I'm pretty sure the community would really enjoy that, it would be cool to learn more about the history of these games :)
Hmm, it's usually very difficult to contact developers in the first place let alone old ones. I'm not sure where I'd start really.
Maybe use the power of the internets, I don't know. It was just an idea :)
Oszkar Daniel Gati there is already a interview with developer of game. His name is David. You can find that in caesar3 heavens website
ah cool, thanks for the headsup. actually I've found a couple more just by googling around :)
if the original developer could remake this game, to be like the emperor, pharaoh and zeus, that would be great
Enemy army arrives 5:30
"Don't mind that"
Trumpet trumpet trumpet trumpet trumpet trumpet trumpet trumpet trumpet
are you sure?
Haha there are a lot of them.
@@GamerZakh its cool people are still playing this game, nice video man
Thank you Sir. For constant Caeser 3 content. Keep up the Good Work
Glad you're enjoying it! It's always a favourite game of mine.
Remember playing this in 1999, those were the days. I was only about 11 and never quite managed to complete it. If I ever get a PC again I will revisit and smash this game. It was a masterpiece. Thanks for covering it, your knowledge is impressive
I remember playing this mission, hating it at first but then loving it. Played it in very hard mode too.
I got massively indebted with the emperor who kept drunken insulting me and sending me his Purple Centurions. Things got so out of hand at some point, that the emperor's forces attacked at the same time i was reppealing one wave of Hannibal's attacks. and i lost about a 1/3 of the city, which also made things worse for me moneywise.
However, seeing as i could spite the emperor himself, i purposely kept draging the debt situation on and set a defensive perimeter on the entrance, so he would keep attacking me and i could humiliate him as he went on and on with his berating tantrums.
The thing is, unlike the scripted barbarian waves, Purple Centurions keep spamming in an ever growing number until either you lose the city or you bring back the balance.
My defenses were different however, i set towers in the mountains everywhere i could, and did 3 defensive lines of turrets in the chokepoint but they had more space between them, the first one was slightly U Shaped so i could maximise attacking with ballistas and wall gards. The forts were split into 2 groups of 2 spearmen 1 Legionaries one close to the main defense and the other on the opposite side.
And of course i micromanaged the hell out of 2 Spearmen units that i kept moving back and forth luring the barbarians and poking them on the north side of the map, before letting them reach the main defensive line.
I killed them only with the walls and towers without any legion, i just close both entrance and when the enemy troops get close one side, the tower shoot, then i bring down a wall from the other side so the entire enemy legions move to the other side. Doing that a few times with good timing, i killed them all without any troops :)
Oh yes I am happy that discovered this Channel . I really enjoy the content .... For a retro gamer like me , its wonderfull to see the old retro games still being played.... So this inspired me to do a Zeus mission again . I am doing The Voyages of Jason map . And thinking of doing a reverse City Doctor . Once I finish the map and the missions. I will send the complete city to you. So you Can see how a City map also Can be done ...
Lions and gladiator can fight too... :p
You can also use people’s army. Spawning three gladiator school and lion houses each. Making a snake like road in the complete path of the enemies and a coliseum at the other end. New barbarians and lions spawn quite fast and all move toward the coliseum. It doesn’t even need to be working. And they fight of almost any army. 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Yeah, I read about that in some of the prehistoric walkthroughs of this game. A lion actually beats an elephant one on one. Imagine that.
the trick is forcing the enemy troops further down between the other mountains by his warehouse with weapons. and have 6 legions all stacked on top of each other in the square form. always works
You should demonstrate how "one javelin port can kill everyone" in some other video"
So when I was a kid I WAS BAD AT THIS GAME cause that invasion always recked me xD
Yeah it's a tough one. I don't think I ever really got past this mission as a kid.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE HOMELESS!
Not sure if any of you guys will read this but back in my time, you could put the game at 10% speed and built a ton of quarters so your troops would be recruited quite fast. The same worked for towers.
Yup that still works haha. I don't use it because it's an exploit but some people do.
Could you explain it please? I always get late in recruiting army and by the time they are ready the enemy army is at the door. How do I do this?
I know the video is old, but just a fun fact. That gigantic army that the game is trying to emulate, is the army of Hannibal of Carthage. He literally crossed the Alps with elephants so he can attack the Romans from the North, where they didn't expect him. He kicked their butt in reality!
I remember pissing off Caesar and not caring about him at all, yet I thwarted 4 of the successive invasions by his legionnaires. The armies increasing in size everytime. The walls and ballistas really did most of the work. You can have minimal forts with mostly javelin auxiliaries, but never scrimp on your ballistas and wall thickness.
I just use the high plains with towers as for some reason the AI ignores them and doesnt attack them.Then hit and run with spears soldiers, it works most of times and a few towers near the city just in case help killing remaining forces.
this is my favorite mission
I see that Caesar firing you cinematic all the time hahaha
I always just get too frustrated before it happened and quit lol
Anyone placing their towers in an "L" instead of a flat wall front? Works wonders for me. They *never* get through, and I don't get not even half the losses, while using just 3 divisions. And no micro, just sit back and enjoy my coffee. And yes, I am talking about this particular invasion (204bc). Good video.
Where have you been 19 years ago?
I was asking the same question haha, so I became what I needed 19 years ago.
we didn't have RUclips 19 years ago XD
Good move, well it worked with the given timeline. I always like to channelize the attack and lure them into a corridor of fire. This channelized attack always helped me, i also do agree with the troops being used for attack in sporadic modes.
Yes in end of the 90’s I was given this message and I never played again!! 😜
omg this video made me so nostalgic...
There is something about this game that really jogs the memory.
I don't know if you are aware but building wall to block the passage of the army is not the best way to use them. Armies will always seek a path that is not blocked to get to your city. They will walk halfway across the map to do it, certainly a long way from their spawn point. If you block the wider space between the "mountains" with a wall and put a wall line, with towers, down the line of the thinner path the army will try to walk past your wall to get to your city provided it is not blocked at the bottom. The towers will thin even the biggest army as it tries to pass. Wait with your own troops at the end and, mostly speaking, they will not break a sweat beating the invaders. This tactic is a little harder to manage on later maps and you do get a few breaches but it is a good strategy.
Gamer zach "do you guys know this cinematic ? I never lost this game before"
Thank you zakh
You don`t need all that army and walls, you only need legionaries troops, and just 2 of them, if you want to be sure maybe three, but the formation is the key. Always put your formation in 4 by 4, in famous turtle roman formation, and put the flag of you troops all in the same place, stack them up shoulder to shoulder, and you will walk out of this battle with just a few casualties. I was able to defend my city from Caesars army of 2 legions with just one of my legion, and they are ruthless, but I am not sure what was my difficulty level set on that map, because I always play on very hard.
I have seen that cinematics waaaay toooo many times :D
Why didn’t he have any forts built before he submitted the map? I've never seen anyone fired in C3 either before. Thanks for sharing. Watching this after that many years is healing
Sometimes people just forget to build military until it's too late. Or just never made enough money to set it up. Glad you enjoyed it!
Impressive build! But I am not sure about the stacking of troops. I usually survive these attacks without losing all my troops. Difference is I have them next to each other in a row. Maybe that is better after all?
i've been fired like 10 times since i started playin 3 days ago... gamerzakh you made me feel like crap hahah :(
Haha no no! What I meant was every time I was going to be fired I just quit or restarted the map. I'm sure I totally would've been fired tons of times but I gave up before it happened.
16:44 ты не можешь гонять вражескую армию копьеметателями - у тебя кончится мораль.
no it will not. As long as, all your troops alive their morale is high. if you have 3-4 javelin groups you can stack them up and retreat exactly behind the last group when the enemy too close. Diamond troops takes longer to kill this way but only enemy archers are your damage. You can lure the enemy into the open field and do your work. I have 0 losses.
Mediolanum is very easy if you manage to build up your millitary structures in time.....just stock up on weapons and give the military a higher priority.
A bit overkill on the towers! All you need is one large wall covering each side of city, about 4 to 6 towers at best, and at least 5 cohorts of javelin. Face the large invasion with rows of javelins. As the carthaginian army approaches, continuously reposition the quick moving javelin men and you kill the vast majority. The remainder will exit map.
@GamerZakh The best way to deal with this is to fix so each of the 6 six legions have a quadrat-formation, and put all 6 legions on the exact same spot.
Nice!
I usually create walls that are 4 blocks in thickness so you have towers in the back and patrol in the front.
3:08 if you delete city that was made by previous governor ( mission 6a probably , military mission with natives ) you get fired too
Build the Wall, make Mediuolanum great again.
its the largest invasion in the game in my opinion because thats the most elephants that youll face in an invasion
You´re the best.
Thank you!
thanks for this enlightnening video!
I have one question left : what's the point of setting gatehouses inside the city, and not only to allow passage through the walls ?
It's to stop the walkers from going where they don't need to. For a housing block with a gatehouse, it means every time a walker spawns, like a market lady or prefect, it's 100% guaranteed they will pass all houses in the block.
I could fight off the first few invasions only with a legion of Javelins, by firing and retreating across the map and getting the Carthaginians to chase me all over. Tedious and boring but it worked.
Haha yeah, that's always an effective but annoying to do tactic. I try not doing that because it is really tedious.
Hey Zakh. I have a question about hippodromes. I don't know which video is the best forum to ask, so I'm just asking here. (Sorry.) Is there a way to reorient the hippodrome (or any building) before placing it on the map? I want to turn the hippodrome 90 degrees so it will fit in a specific place, but I can't figure out how to change its position before I build it. I read on the internet that you should press the R key (for rotate), but it didn't work for me. Do you have any tips? Thanks!
You can actually kite the soldiers with Javelins to where you want. I find it the most efficient way of dealing with it
Oh yeah, 1 javelin fort can pretty much take on any invasion with enough control. I just wanted to extra prove a point here with zero micro haha.
I can still remember a prefect killed an enemy with a.... bucket
Please complete Caesaria!
damn this was an epic gaempaly!
To answer your question - yes I have been fired by cesar. many times. When I played the game as a kid and didn't understand the rules :D
I deffended Mediolanum from caesar+last invasion with micro and tower, hard as fucks
Actually, you get this cinematic when you lose your city in hands of the enemy (Rome legions or barbarians). Even if you still have the powerforce to push them back, your city is considered as destroyed so the game acts like you lose. And... The Emperor doesn't like failure so he captures you and send you in the galley as oarsman for the rest of your pitiful life :(
By the way, even if this invasion was very huge, I think you can check on the Lindum campaign side. Celts are more dangerous than Carthaginians in my opinion. They are faster with chariots
Invasions are scripted but you can force an invasion with a trick which demands to "cheat". Put a well, right click on it and activate the "cheat mode" by pressing alt + K. Now, you have 3 options. alt + C gives you 1 000 Dn if you're below 5 000 Dn. Alt + V gives you instant victory. And if you're clicking on the "?" on the well pop up window and press alt+K again, you'll be invaded when you leave the window :) Oh and more you will press alt+K to be invaded, more the invasion will be tough :p
In that condition the reason you get fired is not because your favor with Rome, but it is because the enemy troops are still there and you have no chance in getting rid of them whatsoever CMIIW
he says he hasnt seen the Galera cinematic and he has been playing this for years!! hahaha come on man this slave ship gave me nightmares during high schooll. i had that at leat 3 times in every city
I always reloaded or quit before I ever 'lost' haha. I never stuck around through the frustration to actually see it.
Demolish all the tress on the hills at the right and put your javelins there
I was fired like a 1000 times.
Just played this map. Was putting up the walls and just couldn't get them to man. Took me forever to realise my barracks was disconnected from the main road by *1* tile ¬_¬ *sigh*
Ah hate it when that happens haha.
trivia section...
name wich part of the Ceaser III carthagian invasions that is the most historicly incorect details concerning the ..troops..and ther usefullness.
I have seen fired before. don't remember what caused it
I've been fired before :(
@GamerZakh: Speaking of large invasions: Any plans for "They Are Billions" once you have a decent pc? That game looks like a a great mixture between city builder and RTS!
I've actually already fixed up my PC and streamed a Gamer Encounters of They Are Billions last week on Twitch. Video will be live here sometime this week. I did enjoy it quite a bit too.
25:53 How come with just 4 tents you could man those towers and pref offices? Is there a partial global labour pool mechanics that i'm not aware of?
The way the game works is that a working building sends out a brown citizen walker. That walker needs to pass 1 house, then the building he came from gets to access your entire population. So if you scatter some tents, the buildings there get workers. It doesn't check how many are living nearby.
Zakh. Are you willing to try custom maps? They are more challenging than these original one's.
I'm planning to keep playing with custom maps once I complete the campaign again with all the challenges.
This 'fired' animation: Mind blown! Hahaha!
I still don't know what the exact trigger for it is.
The trigger is losing the game. I'm amazed you never got it, it's the main thing that would happen to me when I played it as a kid, lol
But what is 'losing' in Caesar 3? Even if everything is destroyed you can just rebuild from scratch if you have the money. Percentage of population drop is the trigger I guess?
Being invaded when you have nothing substantial to destroy is grounds for losing, I think.
Unfortunatly yes I've already seen this :(
Yes I've been fired before... That's the cinematic
I got fired I think in Caesarea(?), where you start off the map with an already pretty bad "city" (the one without prefectures) which I simply tore down. This puts the population under a certain %, causing you to get fired from what I remember.
Tearing everything down does work in the other desert map though (Carthago? Where the "starting city" is built in the natives' land), I guess in that case the population at the start was lower, so the "under x% get fired" mechanic maybe hasn't kicked in yet
rhbb87 that's not the case. I too have tored down houses in caesarea and made new colony. But nothing happens
Hmm weird, I swear it happened to me at least twice that way because I keep forgetting to leave the original city. Maybe because I set the game to 10% and am already building new blocks, could that be it? I must remember to experiment a little the next time I play it
it happened to me, but I think it only true if you select the difficulty to very hard, could be why not everyone sees that.
Actually you can destroy an entire cathaginians with gladiator and lion bois if you make a snake way for them to coloseum
I have been fired all the time... I always stuck it out to the bitter end lol
the easiest fix and effectively cheating is to have just 1 legion for comfort and the rest javelins on this mission, pretty much no towers required outside of just comfort; the idea is to kite with javelins at reduced game speed and in this game the AI is so bad that you can get away with it and not have them charge into and ruin your city; this also means that you can export all or almost all produced weapons, however keep in mind that when sending armies to help the empire you might consider sending legions (don't know how it is calculated but I assume they count for more)
Oh, ye gods, my city is ruined! But, what if I were to load someone else's saved game and disguise it as my own city?
i dont like the youre fired screen cause its playing into the myth that ancient galley rowers were all slaves which is completely false that didnt become the case until the middle ages and renaissance cause ancient and classical era galleys required skilled rowers for you to win a battle
Ah.. Ive allways assumed the large invasion was a soft-cap time limit. So i just won the map before it.
I tend to win before it too. I only hit this invasion if I purposefully delay to face it on purpose.
how to rotate a building?
I don't have the option for walls or towers. Not sure why. I have caesar 3 from steam.
Walls and towers aren't available on every mission. Some earlier missions don't have military stuff enabled.
how did you get 6 forts? isnt 5 max?
Is there a caesar 3 for Ipad?
Could you have relocated the Barracks to the front so the towers man quicker?
You could do that but then you'll lose the weapons in the barracks and slow future troop production, which will be needed for the following invasion.
towers are manned as soon as the sentry spawned. the ballista appears instantly.
yeeeaaahhhh
would column formation have helped?
As far as I understand, column formation isn't as good as the square one.
I watched this again in 2022 and the most visible difference is back then Zakh was actually thinner than now 😂
Yeah I gained 5kg since then because moving across the world is stressful as all hell.
7:33 what is micro? how do u do it?
Micro means micromanagement. It means controlling your units specifically and constantly so they are doing exactly what you want them to do, which can maximise their efficiency with how often they attack and how they avoid taking damage from the enemy.
Can't you increase military staff priority in the professions menu
I can yes, what in the video makes you refer to that?
@@GamerZakh destroying houses to get more homeless to get the towers working...nice game
@@h3egypt Ah that's not an issue of how many workers you have. Buildings don't work until the brown citizen walker they send out passes by actual houses. Even if I prioritised military, buildings that haven't found houses won't work.
@@GamerZakhooh.. great game though I just downloaded it
@@h3egypt Yeah it's good, just some weird 90s logic at times haha. Took me years to figure out all the 'secrets'.
lol the reason you lost that many troops is cause you used the terrible non acadamy formation you would have at least half those troops left never use that formation its terrible ive lost so many times cause i didnt know that