Fun Fact: For a while, GW's official recommendation for creating an Emperor-class Titan model was "Get one of your friends to dress up as one and stand on the table."
_Cogs and bolts and ancient lore_ _Fashioned to fearsome engines of war_ _Those it defends, in fear, shall adore_ _As it's guns leave nothing but gore_
Crumble in its stride as dust cracks and breaks Its warhorns blare, the air then shakes Cannons burst like sun in its wake Woe to our foes as everything quakes
“I must admit. That’s some impressive Architecture.” “Uh…Captain that building is moving.” “Arm the military train’s Railguns. Annihilate it all.” _The Titan steps on the train with its first step and begins arming its weapons at the demoralized soldiers of the noncompliant human civilization_ “What monsters have they faced that they must construct such engines of mass destruction?” “Better that we all die than to find the answer to that question…”
@steelgreyed He paused for a moment and then held up a finger. ‘I judge that we have reached safe distance for translation.’ ‘Lord?’ Ephrenia’s confusion was matched by Branne’s. A sideways glance at Agapito and Aloni showed that his fellow commanders were tense, eyes narrowed. ‘We will not be fleeing without a last remark to our enemies,’ said Corax. ‘Should we power up the void shields and weapons batteries, lord?’ asked Ephrenia, hand hovering over the command terminal. ‘No,’ said the primarch. ‘I have something more dramatic in mind.’
@@guardsmanlars6797 When a priceps dies sometimes their soul will be protected from the warp by their titans machine spirit and brought to become one with it.
Custodes Player: **Names off all the names he has given his Captain for all 5 of the well-earned matches he has so far played this particular army with** Titan Player: **Names off the ridiculous names he arbitrarily bestowed on each of his Titans, each title taking longer than it did to paint the mini to name off**
@@iambumbo7534 "YOUZ TALKIN LIKE SUM GIT ROIGHT NOW, MAYTENANTS DUN 'PRECIATE DA ZOGGIN RESPEK DIS MASHEEN PUT UP WIT BEFORE YOUZ MOCKIN OUR HURL-DREES!" -Da Tit'n Krew
I am Lord Horrik Canorem, Son of High King Valorik Canorem, High Prince of House Canorem, Master of the Blade of Gaia, Keeper of the Gates of Loralo, Wielder of the Kaloric Flame, Bringer of Hope, Herald of the Holy Order of the Adamantine Lance, The Paladin of Koto, Slayer of the Lion Essa, The Triumphant! The Light of Stars! The Eradicator!
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: DK wants to be stomped on by those Reaver Titan Toes, Bricky's Warbringer Nemesis Titan is almost the same size as his massive throbbing veiny forehead and Shy controls a Warlord Titan's Reaver melta cannon to finally destroy the Warframe Servers, freeing her from the curse.
I've seen an Apocalipticon game video once where a dude brought a custom made Imperial Titan. The thing was the size of a child. He started on a table in front of an enemy army mostly made of imperial guards infantry. Took 3 hours to set the table. On the first round the Titan blasted all the enemy infantry mostly (one single guardsman survived and the owner promised to paint a medal on that mini in the future)
Also titans can get PTSD and can have seizures/nightmares. I forget where but a warlord survived the death of the rest of its squad vs the Tyranids and when in transit it had a nightmare/ PTSD episode and started firing while in the ship by itself. They can also feel basic emotions like exhaustion, joy, sadness, and most commonly anger or bloodlust.
I said this in 2 more comment sections but imma say it again cause I find it wholesome. There was this warlord class titan, basically the OTHER largest titan pattern in 40k, that threatened the Imperium that it would stop working if they executed it's princeps, which they were trying to do. Straight up told them "Kill the pilot, you kill the machine too". Pulled up a former Princeps' ghost to also vouch for the current one. The Imperium quickly gave up upon realizing that losing the princeps means losing the Titan too. The God Machine is either in love, or that is one damn skilled Princeps and the mech thinks of him as a good partner. Forget basic emotions, that thing just blackmailed it's masters and clearly understands it's value to the humans.
@@stankobarabata2406Shrewd titan-spirit! Losing a princeps OR a titan is a tremendous blow to Imperial resources, so losing both is a catastrophe. Executing that one man would lose them whole wars down the line. I like to think the Titan realized its own worth and made a calculated gamble.
@@sheogoraththemad4866 No, Fulgrim was fucked up after that whole encountered. As much as Rylanor did die. He died a loyalist and better than Fulgrim. While that version of Fulgrim was destroyed. The reborn version, the clone, was so mentally fucked up. Fulgrim went on a blind rage killing everything that stood around him. Currently, Fulgrim is not doing well. Thus, Rylanor won the argument. May have had a little Thousands Suns help, but Giga Chad Rylanor won. He was the best and the only true child of the Emperor.
Heretical AI: self aware, as sentient as humans, with fully independent will, goals, interests, capable of self organised and coordinated rebellion as a group Machine Spirit AI: fuzzy and varying on all those aspects but definitely not capable of self organised and coordinated rebellion as a group
Lord Valorek Canorem of House Canorem should make a comeback in SB&T DLC or sequel, piloting a Warhound titan. In battle you are suppose to win by pushing it into a ravine, proving it wasn't a bug, but, rather, a feature.
It's actually Lord Horrik Canorem, Son of High King Valorik Canorem, High Prince of House Canorem, Master of the Blade of Gaia, Keeper of the Gates of Loralo, Wielder of the Kaloric Flame, Bringer of Hope, Herald of the Holy Order of the Adamantine Lance, The Paladin of Koto, Slayer of the Lion of Essa, The Triumphant, The Light of Stars, The Eradicator.
@@childofthecity6181 I always wondered... did he fought Lion of Essa outside his armour? Was the "Lion of Essa" a name of Chaos Knight? Thx for correcting me.
@@childofthecity6181 And the best thing is that his _full_ list of names and titles is on his health bar! xD Now, I wonder how Settra the Imperishable would fare if he had a boss health bar.
Even the biggest Titans are rarely deployed on their own, due to Anti-Titan weaponry being available across the Galaxy (T'au Mantas, Guard Shadowsword and Astartes Falchion are just some of the examples). They might be fairly rare, but risking the loss of a priceless God-Machine is far too big to excuse sloppiness. Also, when the Tau first heard about the existence of these enormous war machines, they immediately dismissed the concept as as childish propaganda. Once they actually managed to piss of the Imperium bad enough to varrant the deployment, the main reaction was mostly bafflement that somebody would build something so wastefully powerful. They started combating them by arming their Mantas with enormous railguns, but in the end, they had to eat the crow and develop their own Titan-class walkers.
From what I can speculate, the machine spirit in a titan is the combine consciousnesses that have embedded themselves in the simple mind of the titan. So basically they are unknowingly creating an organic A.I from the copied minds of previous pilots.
I just assumed that they were an AI, just not human level AI. Sort of like using a dog AI that the pilot has to mentally wrangle while piloting which would explain the animal instincts and twitching.
The machine spirits of *knights* are capable of full independence as noted on at least 2 occasions. Those of titans are beyond that. They are, without a doubt in my mind, shackled AI. They dream, they feel, they speak. The machine spirit of a titan is both strong and feral. It is not to be trifled with
I like the idea that an Emperor class Titan is typically controlled by a retired adeptus custodes. If you wanna control a robot the size of a city with your mind you’re gonna need a Demi human.
The way I understand it is that Ad Mech can make titans its just takes years sometimes decades and the sheer amount of resources needed could be used to create a whole new marine chapter and arm them. Which I reckon a whole chapter could take down most titans.
As a titan fan, please please PLEASE read Helsreach. It answers a lot of questions you guys had about the titans, their standing and the princepts, and is just a great read in general. Despite technically being a space marine book, a large portion of the book follows the princepts of an emperor-class titan.
Highly highly HIGHLY recommend Dan Abnett's novel Titanicus. Imo one of if not the best Mechanicus novels in the black library and a good look at how the legios, the titans, and thier crews operate.
Note for 45:00 I think the titan bricky is mentioning is the castigator titan that was possessed by a daemon. From the wiki, not lexicanum: "Alaric then destroyed the Castigator while his battle-brothers Dvorn and Haulvarn destroyed the Titan's STC database to prevent either from falling into the hands of nearby Chaos forces. However, fragments of data from the Titan's STC were collected by the Adeptus Mechanicus for archiving and study."
9:59- lmao I’m dying!!! I want to say I’ve seen you guys have this picture before but I just realized it looks just like Dave Batista if he was playing a role of a Ork!!!
Can that threefor of Fulgrim, the Emperor’s Children, and Rylanor turn into a fourfor? I feel you guys would have a real fun time doing an episode on one of the former Emperor’s Children with a good amount of written work in the Primogenitor, Chief Apothecary Fabius Bile himself.
My first thought when bricky said these were created in the age of strife was "oh so this isn't age of technology stuff" which made me think that it wasn't STC made, though I guess it's possible they made a new design/pattern of parts an STC makes to assemble a Titan.
No it's just a flat out lie that they don't use STC's to make titans. 1. Grey Knights found a Golden Age of Technology fully sentient Titan that was corrupted by Chaos, don't remember it's name now 2. Admech literally lost the capability to make one type of a Titan. how the fuck does that happen if they are not made with stcs lmao
@@mrivarv17 it's also about 8 billion times more complex then anything they can make outside of warships, so even thinking off hand that it makes any sense to not be STC is retarded, though 40k does have a bad track record with coherent lore
Good example of a Machine Spirit acting on its own is for that one Knight Pilot, Sir Hekthur the Chainbreaker. His Knight came alive and rescued him after he was captured by Chaos.
Great episode, as usual, and I'm excited about next week. Kirioth has been a great addition to an already badass channel, and every episode he's in really stands out. They definitely have good chemistry
The birth of Slanesh didn't cause the huge warp storm, it was the reason why it ended. The warp storm was caused by the eldar constantly murder-raping each other and disturbing the warp with the massive amounts of emotion and pain.
I am once again asking for your financial supp- wait no.. I am once again pleading the crew to read Titanicus by Dan Abnett. Seeing entire formations of titans fighting is just... awe inspiring.
I think the best way to describe human tech during the Dark Age of Technology is to cite Clarke's law. The famous science fiction author and futurist Arthur C. Clarke stated this concept: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. In other words humans during that period were so advanced that they could more or less manipulate reality to do ANYTHING.
Fun Fact: The STC (An AI in a Castigator-Class Titan) for Titans was destroyed by a squad of Grey Knights in the Grey Knight Omnibus. It was determined that the STC had made a demonic pact with an unknown chaos God, becoming a cyber-demon. So no Titans can be made by the original standard. The castigator titan was so advanced, it had opposable fingers in the form of a power fist. It had shoulder, elbow, wrist, hip, and knee joints comparable to human beings. And was a "head" taller than the emperor class titan.
When Bricky brought up the heat exhaust of a Titan's plasma there's an intense scene demonstrating this in the 'Priests of Mars' novel. A Titan gets a PTSD induced nightmare while aboard a ship and unleashes a plasma blast, despite the operators doing everything they can to counter command the Princep. The heat immediately bakes the compressed air inside the initial room it was fired and simply cooks loads of dudes. To stop the heat building without end as the plasma burns through the ship the Mechanicus jettison lower compartments of oxygen, killing the working crew at the same time. And this is why Archer doesn't use guns on an air balloon.
a titan legion can number between a dozen to over a hundred, depending on how old the legion is and how much resources they can get to make more titans. Also normally due to how Warhounds can take down an warlord or emperor class titan if there is enough of them and the damage a squad of 10+ Warhounds did in the Siege of Terra, Loyalist Legions are only allowed to have 2 Warhounds per squad. I remember there is a story where a dozen Warhounds kept running in circles around a Warlord or Emperor class titan and kept on firing on it until it went down. I can't remember if there were any casualties inflicted on the Warhounds or not
I'm excited for the Kirioth episode becuase if they need pictures for the Imperator titan Shy will most likely use a picture of the to-scale model scultpure that they built at my local hobby store. 😁
Istvann III hasn’t had true justice on this channel. I’m excited for the Emperors Children episode. With Rylanor and hopefully one of my favourite 40k characters, Saul Tarvitz, the first Loyalist.
42:04 The vibe I always got about the Machine Spirits is that they _may_ have started out as just A.I., but as human society degenerated and became more superstitious, that caused the Warp to leech in and turn them into _actual_ spirits that legitimately _do_ need all those prayers and incense to placate, not because of the entities themselves but rather because the Ad-Mech _believe_ it to be so. The way that I remember Warp entities being described had the example of how milk curdles on some primitive world: if the people on that world think that milk curdles because of some demon or spirit causing it, then the Warp will _literally_ conjure up a Daemon whose _sole_ purpose is to just curdle milk. It's the whole reason why one of the big jokes in the fandom is that Santa Claus exists in Warhammer Fantasy/40K/Age of Sigmar, because enough people believing in him would cause the Warp to create a Daemon that looks and acts like Santa Claus. Very much a *_"If you build it, he will come."_* sort of deal...
I AM RYLANDOR, AND I AM THE ANCIENT OF RITES, SO I REJECT YOU FOR NOW AND FOR ALWAYS, TO STRIKE YOU DOWN I HAVE WAITED FOR A MILLION NIGHTS!!! Past Fulgrim- HELL YEAH! Current Fulgrim- *Crying just like a little guy*
DK: "Who would stand up to a hundred Titans?" Oh, I don't know, the Khrave or the Rangdang... you know, stuff that could have defeated the Great Crusade Era Imperium, Emperor included. x)
Bookclub idea for you Bricky and crew! Check out Flesh and Steel by Guy Hailey. Its alot like Bloodlines but from the prospective of Noctis, a Probator from an upper class family and a Rho01-Lux of the Collegiate Extremis, the Adeptus Mechanicus equivalent of the Arbites. They work together to solve a crime involving warward Servitors and discover something much darker.
I was working overnight on Sunday and just had the thought that there really wasn’t a titan episode. Talk about good timing. Same thing with Rylanor, actually read it and I’d never thought I’d actually respect an Emp’s Child. Guess Saul Tarvitz is next to read about
To answer DK's question about Imperator class Titans, with Warlords being roughly 22in tall an Imperator class is roughly 3 to 4 feet tall. A few apocalypse players would make their own Imperator class titans out of cardboard, paper towel rolls, dowel rods and bits. So they are fielded and I believe there are rules for them. But with a model being that tall to "fit in scale" I don't think there will ever be a "full sized" Imperator class titan. I know they keep hinting it for Adeptus Titanicus though.
Machine Spirits are basically quasi-AI. They aren't self aware and they lack several components that true AI do, such as the ability to modify their own code. But the machine spirits of titans are basically the mental imprint of an apex predator like a lion or tiger that's always hungry and always aggressive, and the princeps' job is to leash it to their will. The Moderati serve to do whatever the princeps isn't concentrating on, so if the princeps wants to fire a weapon they'd move the arm into position, but the moderati would be the one doing the fine aiming and pulling the trigger, or if the princeps wants to take personal control of the weapon the moderati would handle the titan's movement and reactor while she shoots.
RYLANOR! Also the purple perfectionists and pink violators, but whoo! Chadnought! The "we are not told" is about the only thing that speaks to the might of the titans. Still, nothing about shaking the ground with ever step, igniting cities with a single salvo, etc. So we get to fun stomping and shooting next time with my favorite guest star of yours. The greatest and most terrible of knights, the Acastus Class, is almost on par with the smallest and weakest of Titans, the Warhound class. The emperor is one of the two biggest Titans the Imperium can field, and the more known one. I love the Tau, and they have more mechs, but the only ones at the very top of machines in terms of Scale are the Imperium and the Orks. Maybe the Necrons have something in storage on that scale or beyond for terrestrial warfare (Hoping for apocalyptic Cobra or Scorpion) Yeah, scale consistency on the Emperor and previously the Warlord has often been.... lax to put it mildly. I call it golden age, because until it fell apart, it was truly a golden age. An age of miracles in multitudes. Imagine Mad Max mentality, but with death rays and hover tanks. The golden bigot, yes. The massacres of civilians is why Warhound formation sizes have had explicit limitations placed on them. It's not just Titans being hard to replace and even keep running (in some cases, not all), it's that so many massacres of imp civvies happened that like Guard being banned from combined arms regiments and Astartes chapters being limited to 1,000 marines, the force scale was restricted in case of future treason by such units. There's also the Skitari's cousins on the largerr titans, serving to guard against boarding actions.... unless the enemy 'ports into the head, then they're suboptimally deployed to respond to incursions. The Imperator can also carry enough troops in its legs to clear out a fortress without having to slag it with the main guns. "mere" Freeblades are apparently still often expected to be treated with luxury in a war zone. A princeps drives a far grander and deadlier machine in all but a few fringe cases, so if the commander of a Titan is not living cushy off the battlefield, I would be shocked. Was Lorgar Daemonically "blessed" by then? Because if not, that's a killing blow. Not sure why Shy put up a black screen when talking about a princeps lacking great power outside of a Titan, but okay. Um, checking the wiki, it says they work inn pairs because of afore mentioned horror being set loose upon civilians in units of 10+ Warmaster is now the second newest since they gave the Wolfhound a meaner variant. It is in truth some level of automation and perhaps a spark of sapience, but if they can convince themselves that it is a machine spirit, then they will bow to it rather than kill it. Religion, not known for logic or internal consistency! After all, it is a god engine. Divine wrath made manifest. There is surely no way they could be seeing heretical Abominal Intelligence! No, the honorable machine spirit merely wishes to fulfill its role, it is not some soulless automaton single-mindedly focusing on a cold objective. TLDR, they're deluding themselves. Don't forget flaming xenocidal war monger who couldn't be bothered to spend more time raising his kids than tinkering in the basement. I've heard more about them being made based on STCs than not, with the Warlord actually being one of the most intact titan STCs if I'm not mistaken, so barring the resource requirements, that's the one they can most readily build. Though there was one other with full AI, but next week. And for Apocalypse games, for now the Imperator is the only unit where GW won't REEE over using a home made model or even your friend in a costume. Mind you, they've been reigning in the more extreme depictions of Titan size and building bigger Titan models, so I expect that to change in a few years. And boy howdy, I hope the Titan fans RIOT! For now though, home made or more compact scale with an old and ugly model are your options. Yeah, Warmaster is a sexy piece of materiel.
The Gundam Statue is only 3 feet taller than a Warhound, and outmassed by several dozen metric tons. And a 5 story building moving at you at Highway speed, with shields enough to stop anything short of a near miss from a Nuclear strike, is still impressive
@@FirenzeStorm if you compare a warhound to a juggernaunt tank from starwars it's sad how small and slow the warhound is, granted there isn't a scale model for the juggernaunt to out it next to, but the juggernaunt is almost twice as tall, 3 times as long as a warhound is tall and it's a solid rectangle
about the “no titans in a hive city” thing i’ve only seen it once but “Invicta” in ADB’s Helsreach book was in Hive Helsreach on Armageddon during the second war, and grimauldus actually talks to her. also Spoilers! she gets her emperor class titan’s head RIPPED OFF by a mega gargant. love orks. i think the STC thing is that they do use STCs most of the time, it’s just so resource intensive and time consuming that it is better to repair a millennia old titan than build a new one. plus, (and this also explains the hunchback appearance of knights and titans) a titan called the Castigator Class showed up, without a Princep, and was piloted by an AI (meaning that this was some Dark Age of Tech or Old Night relic) that joined chaos. it sort of was so big it had a gravitational pull and also called itself the father of titans, and mocked the Collegia Titanicus and various knight houses for the hunchback copycats that they made. also it’s gone and it was only mentioned once so i’m probably wrong
I mean the plasma gun overcharged of a warhound on tabletop only does 5 damage last time I looked so not completely out of the realm of possibility that lorgar survives 2 shots.
Titans are laughably gimped (compared to the lore) in table top 40k. Kind of like deathstrikes. The old Epic games were a better representation of the bonkers super weapons, with whole companies of troops getting wiped off the table at a time.
The way I square the circle of Machine Spirit and AI, is that the latter is capable of self advancement. A venerable Leman Russ, or a Warlord Titan, could learn to fight better, make tactical and strategic decisions, have a sense of self preservation, know it needs outside assistance etc. It can't negotiate a diplomatic area, or gain new skills whole cloth. The fear of AI in 40k is the very classic Machine In The Shape Of Man. A Machine Spirit could be a limited/soft learning algorithm, it could be a shard of a larger AI, or it could be a superstitious fart cloud by the AdMech. I'm sure it's kept vague specifically to simulate religious/theological debate.
42:00 Ok Bricky to be honest you should *PROBABLY* just make like a small episode about Machines spirits cause thats one of the most theorized and just *weird* aspects of 40k. You got machine spirits which are just basic programs like Siri (cause the admech are still super smart techno-priest), then you got broken A.I which are shackled (actual robots), then you got servitors and a ton of Imperial tech which is just peoples brains/nervous system fused with machines *and then* you got the big boy shit for Knights/Titans and starships which probably *used* to have an A.I. but now are probably a massive collection of souls/Imprints of human consciousness since so many people plugging themselves into and dying in said machines
On the machine spirit topic: I think the best analogy i can give is Mass Effect's VI vs AI distinction. Machine spirits are similar to AI however lack the capacity for independent thought and reasoning. They are independent, self-sustaining code constructs designed to assist in the operation of higher level devices, but they don't have the capability for learning and assimilating new skill sets. A true AI is fully capable of sentient thought and can incorporate new information and skillsets and analyze and adapt to new situations.
Titans striding forward, Ordinatii by the score They are drowning out blasphemers with their great mechanic roar Tradition is upheld, our kit endures forever more Our Victory comes online
hiding rylanor behind a paywall should be considered Illegal business model. GW should also offer any one a single time they buy over 50€ of WH a free Rylanor model
I physically cannot look at a Titan model without **immediately** having a War of the Worlds Tripod horn blaring inside my head. 𝘼𝙣𝙙 𝙄 𝙛*𝙘𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙡𝙤𝙫𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩.
Machine spirits are VI. Virtual Intelligence. It is not self aware, BUT it can become self aware. Machine spirits are also based upon animal minds. We know war hounds are made with dog, wolf, and jackal animal spirits. Tanks have bull and boar machine spirits. Those are the only ones I remember being mentioned.
So the titan does affect the princeps and the previous princeps of a titan that die while connected do become ghosts in the machine. This can be seen in titanicus when gearheart (a OLD warlord princeps) has his final battle and is visited by all the prior princeps of his engine. Think of it like dementia, he can feel himself gradually losing his personality/ego to the titan and eventually his body becomes an empty vessel. Was actually very tragic as it’s a slow process over the whole book.
@@Roamingfirebat imagine that one guy that directs the princepts and he's a bit more showy and as the titan comes over a mountain does so while blaring *I'm blue*, advancing towards the enemy and timing their steps or shots with the beat lol
49:00 it's funny DK asked if you could buy an Imperator titan, because Eric from Eric's Hobby Workshop is actually currently building an Imperator Titan, in scale. When complete it's going to be over 7 feet tall. So far, he's built the feet.
There’s probably been a overkill case where Imperium had 2-4 Imperortor titans in one planet just going crazy funny case in the lore is a Necron flayer group following a titan praising it as a god when flesh falls off and feeds them occasionally since that titan is very bloodthirsty and Rips flesh probably Chaos if I remember correctly
I would assume that there is S.T.C.'s for Plasma Reactors and components, M.I U.'s, Weapons Syatems, Etc. That Ad Mech just assemble. The idea of Saga type handed down knowledge being bit derpy of an idea
Personally I love the idea that the creation of titans is absolutely tech-heresy, but titans are so useful the mechanicus just looks the other way and makes sure nobody outside gets wind of the hypocrisy...which nobody does because A) titans are useful and B) they're all busy nervously hiding their own misdeeds.
Could be both. Limited AI which was then thought to be machine spirits and worshipped it as such. Then because belief causes things to happen, the Admech did create a machine god through their faith. Same as like the 'greater good's deity the human members of the tau accidentally created
Yall should read the Priests of Mars Trilogy by Graham McNeil, while it focuses mainly on Ad-mech it has some really really good titan scenes that tie in with what yall talked about here
In a nut shell it’s like mentally and physically riding a robotic armored Rhino/Horse with a tank gun on it but make them 1000XS bigger and only the rarest most worthy riders can master or hone the power
As to Titans Made By STC, my personal belief is that they are STC patterns but they were made by the proto-Mechanicus in the Age of Strife. One of the last gasps of Human Ingenuity in that period. So rather than Golden Age tech, rediscovered and called Dark Age, it's LITERAL Dark Age tech. Either that, or certain parts and subsystems are Proper STC, but the assembly of the subsystems is bespoke. No pattern written down by The Ancients, the AdMech figured it out the hard way. Which is why it takes forever, because they don't trust things not from The Ancients. Not even their own works.
Truly, imagine waking up and all you hear is a loud war horn in the distance, you go outside and you can see an emperor class walking and it just slowly turns to you. I would somehow find a way to cease existence
Fun Fact: For a while, GW's official recommendation for creating an Emperor-class Titan model was "Get one of your friends to dress up as one and stand on the table."
Dear throne... I bet someone's actually gonna try and make that.
"What's the range on that bad boy?"
"About as far as his shotgun can go."
Reproducing just so you can have your own Emperor-Class Titan on hand
by friend, you mean 13 year old boy, not 6Ft tall man
@@mazimadu bro, it's WH40k, he definitely meant 6ft tall man
_Cogs and bolts and ancient lore_
_Fashioned to fearsome engines of war_
_Those it defends, in fear, shall adore_
_As it's guns leave nothing but gore_
Nothing can withstand it steps
As it leaves behind a path of death
Forts and tanks are reduced to wrecks
It foes nothing but mere specks
Crumble in its stride as dust cracks and breaks
Its warhorns blare, the air then shakes
Cannons burst like sun in its wake
Woe to our foes as everything quakes
*Blessed by Priests of steel*
*Forged in the fire of zeal*
*Immortal Armor of the Emperor's will*
*None Shall oppose as they Fulfill*
The will of the emperor through all it shall complete
Before his holy presence their blood lay underneath
“I must admit. That’s some impressive Architecture.”
“Uh…Captain that building is moving.”
“Arm the military train’s Railguns. Annihilate it all.”
_The Titan steps on the train with its first step and begins arming its weapons at the demoralized soldiers of the noncompliant human civilization_
“What monsters have they faced that they must construct such engines of mass destruction?”
“Better that we all die than to find the answer to that question…”
Dude this is awesome! What is this from?
@steelgreyed He paused for a moment and then held up a finger. ‘I judge that we have reached safe distance for translation.’
‘Lord?’ Ephrenia’s confusion was matched by Branne’s. A sideways glance at Agapito and Aloni showed that his fellow commanders were tense, eyes narrowed.
‘We will not be fleeing without a last remark to our enemies,’ said Corax.
‘Should we power up the void shields and weapons batteries, lord?’ asked Ephrenia, hand hovering over the command terminal.
‘No,’ said the primarch. ‘I have something more dramatic in mind.’
4V
well written
@abreecs3511 ah yes the Skywalker way
The ground quakes. Cities ruined. Armies destroyed. And it hasn't even taken three steps.
It just did some stretching
“When titans walk, planets burn”
I totally thought this was mean to be to the tune of a song by They Might be Giants.... I was wrong.
the titan threw it back
@@iambumbo7534 fuck you have my like for that mental image
My favorite thing about titans is their little quirks. For instance Titans can get homesick.
That's... oddly adorable.
@@elijahhayter3026 Because The home base was all belong to us
Tell me more titan facts please
There's also instances of some getting claustrophobic when in void ships for too long
@@guardsmanlars6797 When a priceps dies sometimes their soul will be protected from the warp by their titans machine spirit and brought to become one with it.
Custodes Player: **Names off all the names he has given his Captain for all 5 of the well-earned matches he has so far played this particular army with**
Titan Player: **Names off the ridiculous names he arbitrarily bestowed on each of his Titans, each title taking longer than it did to paint the mini to name off**
Commander aronax oo e o ah ah ting tang walla walla bing bang razer of worlds high princep of the legio sky snake (example)
Taking into account your matches to write your army’s story sounds so cool tho
@@mechzilla569 "who named this one? a bloody ork? - guy piloting his titan
@@iambumbo7534 "YOUZ TALKIN LIKE SUM GIT ROIGHT NOW, MAYTENANTS DUN 'PRECIATE DA ZOGGIN RESPEK DIS MASHEEN PUT UP WIT BEFORE YOUZ MOCKIN OUR HURL-DREES!" -Da Tit'n Krew
I am Lord Horrik Canorem, Son of High King Valorik Canorem, High Prince of House Canorem, Master of the Blade of Gaia, Keeper of the Gates of Loralo, Wielder of the Kaloric Flame, Bringer of Hope, Herald of the Holy Order of the Adamantine Lance, The Paladin of Koto, Slayer of the Lion Essa, The Triumphant! The Light of Stars! The Eradicator!
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: DK wants to be stomped on by those Reaver Titan Toes, Bricky's Warbringer Nemesis Titan is almost the same size as his massive throbbing veiny forehead and Shy controls a Warlord Titan's Reaver melta cannon to finally destroy the Warframe Servers, freeing her from the curse.
I hear Clarkson's voice every time, you're so good at these lmao, keep it up
@@josephdominick1157 I will never stop lol
@@IdioticSynergy glad to hear it :)
God I love that
She fails
I've seen an Apocalipticon game video once where a dude brought a custom made Imperial Titan. The thing was the size of a child. He started on a table in front of an enemy army mostly made of imperial guards infantry. Took 3 hours to set the table. On the first round the Titan blasted all the enemy infantry mostly (one single guardsman survived and the owner promised to paint a medal on that mini in the future)
I wanna see that guardsman not only with a medal, but as a commander.
I come back to this comment only to see, that someone took my name as a handle, and I am left with just the first part of my email. Damnit.
I have nothing but respect for people who bring a single Warhound Titan to a 40k table.
I love warhounds mannnnn. Ima build like 10 of em when i get my printer running in a week or 2.
Also titans can get PTSD and can have seizures/nightmares. I forget where but a warlord survived the death of the rest of its squad vs the Tyranids and when in transit it had a nightmare/ PTSD episode and started firing while in the ship by itself. They can also feel basic emotions like exhaustion, joy, sadness, and most commonly anger or bloodlust.
I believe that was one of the forge of mars trilogy books
Even the Largest Tau Mech is dwarfed by the Emperor.
I said this in 2 more comment sections but imma say it again cause I find it wholesome.
There was this warlord class titan, basically the OTHER largest titan pattern in 40k, that threatened the Imperium that it would stop working if they executed it's princeps, which they were trying to do. Straight up told them "Kill the pilot, you kill the machine too". Pulled up a former Princeps' ghost to also vouch for the current one. The Imperium quickly gave up upon realizing that losing the princeps means losing the Titan too. The God Machine is either in love, or that is one damn skilled Princeps and the mech thinks of him as a good partner.
Forget basic emotions, that thing just blackmailed it's masters and clearly understands it's value to the humans.
@@stankobarabata2406Shrewd titan-spirit! Losing a princeps OR a titan is a tremendous blow to Imperial resources, so losing both is a catastrophe. Executing that one man would lose them whole wars down the line. I like to think the Titan realized its own worth and made a calculated gamble.
@@stankobarabata2406 gotta love when the mountain-sized murder robot has more compassion than your average human in 40k
All you need to know about Rylanor: He is the Giga Chad of Giga Chads. He straight up said "Fuck you dad" and won the argument.
I have held a VIRUS BOMB
Not exactly as dad is still alive
@@sheogoraththemad4866 Dad's pride is unrecoverable now tho
@@sheogoraththemad4866 No, Fulgrim was fucked up after that whole encountered. As much as Rylanor did die. He died a loyalist and better than Fulgrim. While that version of Fulgrim was destroyed. The reborn version, the clone, was so mentally fucked up. Fulgrim went on a blind rage killing everything that stood around him. Currently, Fulgrim is not doing well. Thus, Rylanor won the argument. May have had a little Thousands Suns help, but Giga Chad Rylanor won. He was the best and the only true child of the Emperor.
They first need to make a Fulgrim and Emperor's children episode
Heretical AI: self aware, as sentient as humans, with fully independent will, goals, interests, capable of self organised and coordinated rebellion as a group
Machine Spirit AI: fuzzy and varying on all those aspects but definitely not capable of self organised and coordinated rebellion as a group
@@stankobarabata2406 interesting. Where can I find this story or what it called? Would want to read it
Everybody gangster til the church starts walking.
If you won't come to church, church will come to you
[insert overused titan quote here]
which is weird to see church on titans in 30k where religion is ban.
Lord Valorek Canorem of House Canorem should make a comeback in SB&T DLC or sequel, piloting a Warhound titan. In battle you are suppose to win by pushing it into a ravine, proving it wasn't a bug, but, rather, a feature.
“You have disgraced my son, pitiful Ork, and for your transgressions against my great house you shall… hold on, is that a tripwire?”
It's actually Lord Horrik Canorem, Son of High King Valorik Canorem, High Prince of House Canorem, Master of the Blade of Gaia, Keeper of the Gates of Loralo, Wielder of the Kaloric Flame, Bringer of Hope, Herald of the Holy Order of the Adamantine Lance, The Paladin of Koto, Slayer of the Lion of Essa, The Triumphant, The Light of Stars, The Eradicator.
@@childofthecity6181 "You say... vot?"
@@childofthecity6181 I always wondered... did he fought Lion of Essa outside his armour? Was the "Lion of Essa" a name of Chaos Knight? Thx for correcting me.
@@childofthecity6181 And the best thing is that his _full_ list of names and titles is on his health bar! xD
Now, I wonder how Settra the Imperishable would fare if he had a boss health bar.
Even the biggest Titans are rarely deployed on their own, due to Anti-Titan weaponry being available across the Galaxy (T'au Mantas, Guard Shadowsword and Astartes Falchion are just some of the examples). They might be fairly rare, but risking the loss of a priceless God-Machine is far too big to excuse sloppiness.
Also, when the Tau first heard about the existence of these enormous war machines, they immediately dismissed the concept as as childish propaganda. Once they actually managed to piss of the Imperium bad enough to varrant the deployment, the main reaction was mostly bafflement that somebody would build something so wastefully powerful. They started combating them by arming their Mantas with enormous railguns, but in the end, they had to eat the crow and develop their own Titan-class walkers.
Don't forget the upgraded tigershark. Anti titan strike craft that also makes a good ship to ship bomber.
Imagine a battle where you have to move a tau manta lmao
The commie fish Gundam faction was just jealous
From what I can speculate, the machine spirit in a titan is the combine consciousnesses that have embedded themselves in the simple mind of the titan. So basically they are unknowingly creating an organic A.I from the copied minds of previous pilots.
I also believe sub-human level ai is tolerated (but not called ai). Making peer-human level ai is the real crime.
Which is honestly fucking cool
I just assumed that they were an AI, just not human level AI. Sort of like using a dog AI that the pilot has to mentally wrangle while piloting which would explain the animal instincts and twitching.
@@cal593 I believe the true distinction is sapient AI
The machine spirits of *knights* are capable of full independence as noted on at least 2 occasions.
Those of titans are beyond that. They are, without a doubt in my mind, shackled AI. They dream, they feel, they speak.
The machine spirit of a titan is both strong and feral. It is not to be trifled with
I like the idea that an Emperor class Titan is typically controlled by a retired adeptus custodes. If you wanna control a robot the size of a city with your mind you’re gonna need a Demi human.
No
I mean it could work
@@riven5677 no
The way I understand it is that Ad Mech can make titans its just takes years sometimes decades and the sheer amount of resources needed could be used to create a whole new marine chapter and arm them. Which I reckon a whole chapter could take down most titans.
But could they take down a maniple?
If I'm remembering correctly it takes decades just to make space marine armor.
@@americankid7782 true
@@myduckisonqauck7227 I think it used to, especially master crafted, but the Mk10 just rolls of a production line.
@@tflwulf69 less that it's mass produced and more Cawl had 10k years to have stockpiles
As a titan fan, please please PLEASE read Helsreach. It answers a lot of questions you guys had about the titans, their standing and the princepts, and is just a great read in general. Despite technically being a space marine book, a large portion of the book follows the princepts of an emperor-class titan.
Better yet, read titanicus
Titandeath is also good.
Highly highly HIGHLY recommend Dan Abnett's novel Titanicus. Imo one of if not the best Mechanicus novels in the black library and a good look at how the legios, the titans, and thier crews operate.
Hard agree. In fact, it's one of my favorite 40k novels, full stop.
I can't believe that they went the entire episode without mentioning Titanfall, Pacific Rim, or Attack on Titan. Incredible
Get that weeb crap out of here... Also wouldn’t Imperial Knights be closer for Titanfall?
Pac Rim was mentioned once & pics a few times.
37:51 they also missed a chance to go on "just a little guy" tangent
Long have I waited for this moment
The reason I got into Warhammer
Same.
Saaame
@@Pink.andahalf
BattleTech: Am I a joke to you?
MechWarrior: Technically, yes.
Forge World: Yo, is this the Gundam orgy?
@@attemptedunkindness3632 Macross: This place could use some music
Same, Brother.
Note for 45:00 I think the titan bricky is mentioning is the castigator titan that was possessed by a daemon.
From the wiki, not lexicanum:
"Alaric then destroyed the Castigator while his battle-brothers Dvorn and Haulvarn destroyed the Titan's STC database to prevent either from falling into the hands of nearby Chaos forces. However, fragments of data from the Titan's STC were collected by the Adeptus Mechanicus for archiving and study."
He's big, he's gold, he's very very old, he's the the Emperor!
Should have shown the Horus Heresy Cinematic. A lot of Titans in that as well as Horus incinerating one with the Vengeful spirit.
It be fun to see DK’s reaction
This is the one I’ve been waiting for since the beginning! Titans and Knights are what made me fall in love with 40k!
9:59- lmao I’m dying!!! I want to say I’ve seen you guys have this picture before but I just realized it looks just like Dave Batista if he was playing a role of a Ork!!!
Goddammit Shy, the subtle touch at the ending is hilarious
@𝐓𝐞𝐱𝐭 𝐌𝐞 +𝟏④④⓪⑥⓪⑥⑥③⑨③ mmmmmmmmm doubtful
Can that threefor of Fulgrim, the Emperor’s Children, and Rylanor turn into a fourfor? I feel you guys would have a real fun time doing an episode on one of the former Emperor’s Children with a good amount of written work in the Primogenitor, Chief Apothecary Fabius Bile himself.
Fabulous Bill is definitely worthy of his own episode
My first thought when bricky said these were created in the age of strife was "oh so this isn't age of technology stuff" which made me think that it wasn't STC made, though I guess it's possible they made a new design/pattern of parts an STC makes to assemble a Titan.
Thats not a bad assumption. They are actually STC however, and used to have AI pilots rather than human pilots.
I'm very sure they were initially created during the dark age
No it's just a flat out lie that they don't use STC's to make titans.
1. Grey Knights found a Golden Age of Technology fully sentient Titan that was corrupted by Chaos, don't remember it's name now
2. Admech literally lost the capability to make one type of a Titan. how the fuck does that happen if they are not made with stcs lmao
@@mrivarv17 it's also about 8 billion times more complex then anything they can make outside of warships, so even thinking off hand that it makes any sense to not be STC is retarded, though 40k does have a bad track record with coherent lore
@@mrivarv17 lost to time, remember when we forgot how to make a crane for like 500 years
I thought the thumbnail was a weirdly customised Guncannon when i saw this in my subs.
Opening the video of course reveals it's just a Knight.
Good example of a Machine Spirit acting on its own is for that one Knight Pilot, Sir Hekthur the Chainbreaker. His Knight came alive and rescued him after he was captured by Chaos.
A knight's Steed is loyal to it's rider I guess
Definitely not AI
Great episode, as usual, and I'm excited about next week. Kirioth has been a great addition to an already badass channel, and every episode he's in really stands out. They definitely have good chemistry
The Machine Spirit thing is a serious shitstorm waiting to happen. There's a dragon on Mars, and it's waking up.
The birth of Slanesh didn't cause the huge warp storm, it was the reason why it ended.
The warp storm was caused by the eldar constantly murder-raping each other and disturbing the warp with the massive amounts of emotion and pain.
So they weren't the splash, they were the splash receding?
I like to think of it as the warp storms were the pregnancy
the warp storms where the edging
the birth caused post nut clarity
@@rapter229 that's... pleasant?
@@ashardalondragnipurake That's a slaaneshi phrase, if I've ever heard one.
"Engine kill!"
"Well yes, of course you've killed the engine! You're not supposed to drive it through the deep water you dumbass!"
I am once again asking for your financial supp- wait no.. I am once again pleading the crew to read Titanicus by Dan Abnett. Seeing entire formations of titans fighting is just... awe inspiring.
Great book
Also gives perspective on how infantry coordinate with titans
I think the best way to describe human tech during the Dark Age of Technology is to cite Clarke's law. The famous science fiction author and futurist Arthur C. Clarke stated this concept: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. In other words humans during that period were so advanced that they could more or less manipulate reality to do ANYTHING.
Fun Fact: The STC (An AI in a Castigator-Class Titan) for Titans was destroyed by a squad of Grey Knights in the Grey Knight Omnibus. It was determined that the STC had made a demonic pact with an unknown chaos God, becoming a cyber-demon.
So no Titans can be made by the original standard.
The castigator titan was so advanced, it had opposable fingers in the form of a power fist. It had shoulder, elbow, wrist, hip, and knee joints comparable to human beings. And was a "head" taller than the emperor class titan.
“Larger titans make you more stoic”
*becomes an imperator Titan pilot to consume more alcohol*
You dig GIANT ROBOTS, I dig GIANT ROBOTS
We dig GIANT ROBOTS, Chicks dig GIANT ROBOTS
_guitar riff_ NICE!
A show that died too soon
When Bricky brought up the heat exhaust of a Titan's plasma there's an intense scene demonstrating this in the 'Priests of Mars' novel. A Titan gets a PTSD induced nightmare while aboard a ship and unleashes a plasma blast, despite the operators doing everything they can to counter command the Princep. The heat immediately bakes the compressed air inside the initial room it was fired and simply cooks loads of dudes. To stop the heat building without end as the plasma burns through the ship the Mechanicus jettison lower compartments of oxygen, killing the working crew at the same time.
And this is why Archer doesn't use guns on an air balloon.
a titan legion can number between a dozen to over a hundred, depending on how old the legion is and how much resources they can get to make more titans.
Also normally due to how Warhounds can take down an warlord or emperor class titan if there is enough of them and the damage a squad of 10+ Warhounds did in the Siege of Terra, Loyalist Legions are only allowed to have 2 Warhounds per squad.
I remember there is a story where a dozen Warhounds kept running in circles around a Warlord or Emperor class titan and kept on firing on it until it went down. I can't remember if there were any casualties inflicted on the Warhounds or not
Thanks for the fun edits shy
I'm excited for the Kirioth episode becuase if they need pictures for the Imperator titan Shy will most likely use a picture of the to-scale model scultpure that they built at my local hobby store. 😁
Istvann III hasn’t had true justice on this channel. I’m excited for the Emperors Children episode. With Rylanor and hopefully one of my favourite 40k characters, Saul Tarvitz, the first Loyalist.
42:04 The vibe I always got about the Machine Spirits is that they _may_ have started out as just A.I., but as human society degenerated and became more superstitious, that caused the Warp to leech in and turn them into _actual_ spirits that legitimately _do_ need all those prayers and incense to placate, not because of the entities themselves but rather because the Ad-Mech _believe_ it to be so.
The way that I remember Warp entities being described had the example of how milk curdles on some primitive world: if the people on that world think that milk curdles because of some demon or spirit causing it, then the Warp will _literally_ conjure up a Daemon whose _sole_ purpose is to just curdle milk. It's the whole reason why one of the big jokes in the fandom is that Santa Claus exists in Warhammer Fantasy/40K/Age of Sigmar, because enough people believing in him would cause the Warp to create a Daemon that looks and acts like Santa Claus. Very much a *_"If you build it, he will come."_* sort of deal...
Good to hear Dk and Bricky finally embracing their inner Ork.
"Everyone Gangsta Til the church starts walk" Legio Gryphronicus m30
Titans, oh how I love thy. How I love thy’s skyscraper size. Oh how I love thy’s weapons which level cities. Oh how I love thy for thy are perfect.
You should watch macross
@@myduckisonqauck7227 I’ll have to check it out then thanks for the recommendation
Rylanor is cool and all. I'll look forward to that Dark Angels patreon goal, though. I look forward to Bricky getting all the details wrong lmao
I AM RYLANDOR, AND I AM THE ANCIENT OF RITES, SO I REJECT YOU FOR NOW AND FOR ALWAYS, TO STRIKE YOU DOWN I HAVE WAITED FOR A MILLION NIGHTS!!!
Past Fulgrim- HELL YEAH!
Current Fulgrim- *Crying just like a little guy*
Now shy is after my head too :)
DK: "Who would stand up to a hundred Titans?"
Oh, I don't know, the Khrave or the Rangdang... you know, stuff that could have defeated the Great Crusade Era Imperium, Emperor included. x)
Bookclub idea for you Bricky and crew! Check out Flesh and Steel by Guy Hailey. Its alot like Bloodlines but from the prospective of Noctis, a Probator from an upper class family and a Rho01-Lux of the Collegiate Extremis, the Adeptus Mechanicus equivalent of the Arbites. They work together to solve a crime involving warward Servitors and discover something much darker.
I was working overnight on Sunday and just had the thought that there really wasn’t a titan episode. Talk about good timing.
Same thing with Rylanor, actually read it and I’d never thought I’d actually respect an Emp’s Child. Guess Saul Tarvitz is next to read about
To answer DK's question about Imperator class Titans, with Warlords being roughly 22in tall an Imperator class is roughly 3 to 4 feet tall. A few apocalypse players would make their own Imperator class titans out of cardboard, paper towel rolls, dowel rods and bits. So they are fielded and I believe there are rules for them. But with a model being that tall to "fit in scale" I don't think there will ever be a "full sized" Imperator class titan. I know they keep hinting it for Adeptus Titanicus though.
Machine Spirits are basically quasi-AI. They aren't self aware and they lack several components that true AI do, such as the ability to modify their own code. But the machine spirits of titans are basically the mental imprint of an apex predator like a lion or tiger that's always hungry and always aggressive, and the princeps' job is to leash it to their will.
The Moderati serve to do whatever the princeps isn't concentrating on, so if the princeps wants to fire a weapon they'd move the arm into position, but the moderati would be the one doing the fine aiming and pulling the trigger, or if the princeps wants to take personal control of the weapon the moderati would handle the titan's movement and reactor while she shoots.
RYLANOR! Also the purple perfectionists and pink violators, but whoo! Chadnought!
The "we are not told" is about the only thing that speaks to the might of the titans. Still, nothing about shaking the ground with ever step, igniting cities with a single salvo, etc.
So we get to fun stomping and shooting next time with my favorite guest star of yours.
The greatest and most terrible of knights, the Acastus Class, is almost on par with the smallest and weakest of Titans, the Warhound class.
The emperor is one of the two biggest Titans the Imperium can field, and the more known one.
I love the Tau, and they have more mechs, but the only ones at the very top of machines in terms of Scale are the Imperium and the Orks. Maybe the Necrons have something in storage on that scale or beyond for terrestrial warfare (Hoping for apocalyptic Cobra or Scorpion)
Yeah, scale consistency on the Emperor and previously the Warlord has often been.... lax to put it mildly.
I call it golden age, because until it fell apart, it was truly a golden age. An age of miracles in multitudes.
Imagine Mad Max mentality, but with death rays and hover tanks.
The golden bigot, yes.
The massacres of civilians is why Warhound formation sizes have had explicit limitations placed on them. It's not just Titans being hard to replace and even keep running (in some cases, not all), it's that so many massacres of imp civvies happened that like Guard being banned from combined arms regiments and Astartes chapters being limited to 1,000 marines, the force scale was restricted in case of future treason by such units.
There's also the Skitari's cousins on the largerr titans, serving to guard against boarding actions.... unless the enemy 'ports into the head, then they're suboptimally deployed to respond to incursions. The Imperator can also carry enough troops in its legs to clear out a fortress without having to slag it with the main guns.
"mere" Freeblades are apparently still often expected to be treated with luxury in a war zone. A princeps drives a far grander and deadlier machine in all but a few fringe cases, so if the commander of a Titan is not living cushy off the battlefield, I would be shocked.
Was Lorgar Daemonically "blessed" by then? Because if not, that's a killing blow.
Not sure why Shy put up a black screen when talking about a princeps lacking great power outside of a Titan, but okay.
Um, checking the wiki, it says they work inn pairs because of afore mentioned horror being set loose upon civilians in units of 10+
Warmaster is now the second newest since they gave the Wolfhound a meaner variant.
It is in truth some level of automation and perhaps a spark of sapience, but if they can convince themselves that it is a machine spirit, then they will bow to it rather than kill it. Religion, not known for logic or internal consistency! After all, it is a god engine. Divine wrath made manifest. There is surely no way they could be seeing heretical Abominal Intelligence! No, the honorable machine spirit merely wishes to fulfill its role, it is not some soulless automaton single-mindedly focusing on a cold objective.
TLDR, they're deluding themselves.
Don't forget flaming xenocidal war monger who couldn't be bothered to spend more time raising his kids than tinkering in the basement.
I've heard more about them being made based on STCs than not, with the Warlord actually being one of the most intact titan STCs if I'm not mistaken, so barring the resource requirements, that's the one they can most readily build. Though there was one other with full AI, but next week.
And for Apocalypse games, for now the Imperator is the only unit where GW won't REEE over using a home made model or even your friend in a costume. Mind you, they've been reigning in the more extreme depictions of Titan size and building bigger Titan models, so I expect that to change in a few years. And boy howdy, I hope the Titan fans RIOT! For now though, home made or more compact scale with an old and ugly model are your options.
Yeah, Warmaster is a sexy piece of materiel.
49:15 one guy's doing homemade emperor class titan in the same scale as normal minis are and its about real life man size
For the Scale you should have used the RX-78 Gundam statue as a means of scaling these Titans. Their not as big as you think.
The Gundam Statue is only 3 feet taller than a Warhound, and outmassed by several dozen metric tons.
And a 5 story building moving at you at Highway speed, with shields enough to stop anything short of a near miss from a Nuclear strike, is still impressive
@@ssjjshawn I think people forget how fast god engines move for their size. Especially how fast they track and do targeting. Warhounds especially
@@FirenzeStorm if you compare a warhound to a juggernaunt tank from starwars it's sad how small and slow the warhound is, granted there isn't a scale model for the juggernaunt to out it next to, but the juggernaunt is almost twice as tall, 3 times as long as a warhound is tall and it's a solid rectangle
@@calebbarnhouse496 the juggernaut is only that tall because of the little pod thing on top of a ladder.
@@nerfinator6 God no, the ATAT is much smaller then the juggernaunt tank and its still way bigger then a warhound titan
if there not already they should be in Spotify cause that would be a great place to listen to these
I really wanted the quote to be Bricky screaming BWAAAAAAA into the mic
about the “no titans in a hive city” thing i’ve only seen it once but “Invicta” in ADB’s Helsreach book was in Hive Helsreach on Armageddon during the second war, and grimauldus actually talks to her. also Spoilers! she gets her emperor class titan’s head RIPPED OFF by a mega gargant. love orks.
i think the STC thing is that they do use STCs most of the time, it’s just so resource intensive and time consuming that it is better to repair a millennia old titan than build a new one. plus, (and this also explains the hunchback appearance of knights and titans) a titan called the Castigator Class showed up, without a Princep, and was piloted by an AI (meaning that this was some Dark Age of Tech or Old Night relic) that joined chaos. it sort of was so big it had a gravitational pull and also called itself the father of titans, and mocked the Collegia Titanicus and various knight houses for the hunchback copycats that they made. also it’s gone and it was only mentioned once so i’m probably wrong
The grey knight killed that bad boy and wretched the stc to make more.
I mean the plasma gun overcharged of a warhound on tabletop only does 5 damage last time I looked so not completely out of the realm of possibility that lorgar survives 2 shots.
Titans are laughably gimped (compared to the lore) in table top 40k. Kind of like deathstrikes. The old Epic games were a better representation of the bonkers super weapons, with whole companies of troops getting wiped off the table at a time.
The way I square the circle of Machine Spirit and AI, is that the latter is capable of self advancement.
A venerable Leman Russ, or a Warlord Titan, could learn to fight better, make tactical and strategic decisions, have a sense of self preservation, know it needs outside assistance etc. It can't negotiate a diplomatic area, or gain new skills whole cloth.
The fear of AI in 40k is the very classic Machine In The Shape Of Man. A Machine Spirit could be a limited/soft learning algorithm, it could be a shard of a larger AI, or it could be a superstitious fart cloud by the AdMech. I'm sure it's kept vague specifically to simulate religious/theological debate.
42:00 Ok Bricky to be honest you should *PROBABLY* just make like a small episode about Machines spirits cause thats one of the most theorized and just *weird* aspects of 40k.
You got machine spirits which are just basic programs like Siri (cause the admech are still super smart techno-priest), then you got broken A.I which are shackled (actual robots), then you got servitors and a ton of Imperial tech which is just peoples brains/nervous system fused with machines *and then* you got the big boy shit for Knights/Titans and starships which probably *used* to have an A.I. but now are probably a massive collection of souls/Imprints of human consciousness since so many people plugging themselves into and dying in said machines
It's worth noting that the titans shrunk dramatically when they were given game models.
On the machine spirit topic: I think the best analogy i can give is Mass Effect's VI vs AI distinction. Machine spirits are similar to AI however lack the capacity for independent thought and reasoning. They are independent, self-sustaining code constructs designed to assist in the operation of higher level devices, but they don't have the capability for learning and assimilating new skill sets. A true AI is fully capable of sentient thought and can incorporate new information and skillsets and analyze and adapt to new situations.
Now I just want to see a spoof of young Erin Yeager yelling titan like from the abridged episode by taka before bouncing off of an imperator XD.
Titans striding forward, Ordinatii by the score
They are drowning out blasphemers with their great mechanic roar
Tradition is upheld, our kit endures forever more
Our Victory comes online
hiding rylanor behind a paywall should be considered Illegal business model. GW should also offer any one a single time they buy over 50€ of WH a free Rylanor model
I physically cannot look at a Titan model without **immediately** having a War of the Worlds Tripod horn blaring inside my head.
𝘼𝙣𝙙 𝙄 𝙛*𝙘𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙡𝙤𝙫𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩.
Machine spirits are VI. Virtual Intelligence. It is not self aware, BUT it can become self aware.
Machine spirits are also based upon animal minds.
We know war hounds are made with dog, wolf, and jackal animal spirits.
Tanks have bull and boar machine spirits.
Those are the only ones I remember being mentioned.
I think that fulgrim being the addendum to rylanor's episode not the other way around really really funny!
The Mechanicum titans are in fact mere copies of the original Dark Age Titan as claimed by the AI of the Dark Age Titan
So the titan does affect the princeps and the previous princeps of a titan that die while connected do become ghosts in the machine. This can be seen in titanicus when gearheart (a OLD warlord princeps) has his final battle and is visited by all the prior princeps of his engine. Think of it like dementia, he can feel himself gradually losing his personality/ego to the titan and eventually his body becomes an empty vessel. Was actually very tragic as it’s a slow process over the whole book.
*cue that glorious warhorn*
Every one gangsta until the church start walking.
@@Roamingfirebat imagine that one guy that directs the princepts and he's a bit more showy and as the titan comes over a mountain does so while blaring *I'm blue*, advancing towards the enemy and timing their steps or shots with the beat lol
49:00 it's funny DK asked if you could buy an Imperator titan, because Eric from Eric's Hobby Workshop is actually currently building an Imperator Titan, in scale. When complete it's going to be over 7 feet tall. So far, he's built the feet.
There’s probably been a overkill case where Imperium had 2-4 Imperortor titans in one planet just going crazy funny case in the lore is a Necron flayer group following a titan praising it as a god when flesh falls off and feeds them occasionally since that titan is very bloodthirsty and Rips flesh probably Chaos if I remember correctly
It was talked about during the Chaos Knight episode and i think that it was a Chaos Knight (otherwise i cannot remember why they'd bring it up)
@@Nobody-zl3kk yeah either that or the Necron flayer episode
Attack on Titan or something, I'm not sure. But I'm hearing boss music and I sure don't want to be Xenos.
I would assume that there is S.T.C.'s for Plasma Reactors and components, M.I
U.'s, Weapons Syatems, Etc. That Ad Mech just assemble.
The idea of Saga type handed down knowledge being bit derpy of an idea
When crusading with 2 tons of power armor isn't enough so you bring a church to the battlefield
Yo, if we're getting Titan classes and specs next week, I really really really hope they do Psi-Titans.
Titans in 40k are like Titans in Titanfall: Only matched by overwhelming firepower, or an equal.
Or some Orks boyz and a teleporter.
Personally I love the idea that the creation of titans is absolutely tech-heresy, but titans are so useful the mechanicus just looks the other way and makes sure nobody outside gets wind of the hypocrisy...which nobody does because A) titans are useful and B) they're all busy nervously hiding their own misdeeds.
Could be both. Limited AI which was then thought to be machine spirits and worshipped it as such.
Then because belief causes things to happen, the Admech did create a machine god through their faith. Same as like the 'greater good's deity the human members of the tau accidentally created
Ah, the memories of Team Fabulous at 17:15. Rest in peace, Kitty0706.
Great episode. I love titans, two of my favorite books from Black Library are Titanicus by Dan Abbnet and Warlord by David Annandale.
Yall should read the Priests of Mars Trilogy by Graham McNeil, while it focuses mainly on Ad-mech it has some really really good titan scenes that tie in with what yall talked about here
They'd get a kick out of the plasma weapon being fired off in the ship.
In a nut shell it’s like mentally and physically riding a robotic armored Rhino/Horse with a tank gun on it but make them 1000XS bigger and only the rarest most worthy riders can master or hone the power
I love the fact that the stompa is like the exact same size as a warhound
18:50 everyone knows the crusades were a big tea party and polite conversation
*Waits for the countless amount of Metal Gear comments to appear*
Metal Gear?
They should do another art contest, only this time it’s the bigger brothers of knights
Im really hoping that they mention the psi titans at some point
As to Titans Made By STC, my personal belief is that they are STC patterns but they were made by the proto-Mechanicus in the Age of Strife. One of the last gasps of Human Ingenuity in that period. So rather than Golden Age tech, rediscovered and called Dark Age, it's LITERAL Dark Age tech.
Either that, or certain parts and subsystems are Proper STC, but the assembly of the subsystems is bespoke. No pattern written down by The Ancients, the AdMech figured it out the hard way. Which is why it takes forever, because they don't trust things not from The Ancients. Not even their own works.
Truly, imagine waking up and all you hear is a loud war horn in the distance, you go outside and you can see an emperor class walking and it just slowly turns to you.
I would somehow find a way to cease existence
Maaaan,and I just read Titanicus again,this is perfect
You should have the "Lord Harrik" part for the quote, DK would guess that even before you'd die laughing and trying to finish it.
33:13 this would be a neat concept for space ships too.