I am still sad about there not being dope artwork on the cards... i don't want/need photo's of pro painted mini's on the cards. I'll keep playing the older sets/edition - I am not competitive in the slightest.
"Invalidates the previous purchases." That's exactly where I am. We have a crazy strong Underworlds community in my area, and I jumped in earlier this year (incidentally my first dip into the Warhammer universe). I have models partway painted; warbands I put together but hadn't gotten to the table yet; Decks I purchased and had only messed around with a little. And now so much of that is down the tube. All the decks I bought: not compatible. Warbands: when they get around to giving us the digital assets. I don't need or want more models. So they want me to pay 100 USD for a board and four decks? No thanks. Maybe I'll see if I can grab the decks only on eBay later when the scrolls for my models come out. But this is a real feels bad at the moment for me.
I feel a bit "had" with this new edition. It's supposed to be(well for me) a small casual game. Now to get into this game I got to get a box that has minis I don't want, got to buy 2 boxes of cards(8 teams total) to get 2 team cards and (cos I want them) got to buy 4 sets of minis to get 1 set I want. That adds up to a lot of money. So I decided to just leave it...and see if someone else buys the box. If not I'll just play the older version even less often.
This was always going to come down to price point. They could have at least maintained the $90 US, if not drop it a little like their previous Underworlds Starter Sets. But no, it's their new "cheap starter set" cost of $110.
Great review/thoughts Ash! As an existing fan that fell off after Direchasm, this new version does enough to get me excited and back in. However, im 100% with you. Ive wanted a 40k version for years, and thought that once it started to decline GW would take the chance to make the switch. The Underworlds models have always been some of their best (imo), and youre right. Doing the same thing but for 40k would basically print them money. I'm still hoping we see this system ported to 40k though, as this new template seems easier to balance and adjust.
GW already have a poor reputation re. Predatory game iterations that do little to move the experience on in a meaningful way, but seem optimised to make short term cash windfalls for the company (at the expense of the game/community). This release seems very much on brand for them.
Well, uh, at least I will be able to free up some room on my shelf now? I have one core box full of boards (including ones GW sold separately), one full of cards (Including plenty of Rivals decks) and one full of tokens. Now they have reset things, I only need one box. Yay?
With the cost, i just dont see who this is for. Previous players arent happy about having to rebuy stuff and the loss of card art (the vocal crowd is really vocal about this). And as you point out, it doesn't really feel set to pull in new players. My fear is this wont do well and will be the end of Underworlds; not because the game isnt good but because of very corporate decisions.
I think I WILL use the old boards, because that one-sided board will get boring fast. You can modify the space with terrain and the board does not matter much it seems.
As an existing all in Underworlds player this is a sour grapes 'feels bad' moment. No surprise with GW breaking a game.. Obviously they've done this before.. Still feels bad that all my cards are dead. The cheapo pictures over art is another 'ugh' decision.. Sigh. I do like the Skaven models a lot. So there's that.
The game hasn’t substantially changed to be honest. Theres going to be some subtle tactical changes to the scoring of the new decks but without context or being able to see the catalogue of other warbands there’s not much to review here apart from the aggregate product itself. This isn’t a ‘tactical’ review; it’s a product review.
Sorry mate I know its prob just an honest misstake but you released this an hour early which hurts us other creators that wait till 10 am brittish time to release. All the best!
Yeah, simply a case of the usual release time set on RUclips that was last week (when it was correct) becoming incorrect today, and literally only for today as our clocks also go back tomorrow.
The price is what’s killed me for this game. If it was still 65 it would be rocking and rolling.
I am still sad about there not being dope artwork on the cards... i don't want/need photo's of pro painted mini's on the cards. I'll keep playing the older sets/edition - I am not competitive in the slightest.
Totally agree with ya mate
100%! It's such a turn off for me.
Title should be Embergard Ash! ❤
"Invalidates the previous purchases." That's exactly where I am. We have a crazy strong Underworlds community in my area, and I jumped in earlier this year (incidentally my first dip into the Warhammer universe). I have models partway painted; warbands I put together but hadn't gotten to the table yet; Decks I purchased and had only messed around with a little. And now so much of that is down the tube. All the decks I bought: not compatible. Warbands: when they get around to giving us the digital assets. I don't need or want more models. So they want me to pay 100 USD for a board and four decks? No thanks. Maybe I'll see if I can grab the decks only on eBay later when the scrolls for my models come out. But this is a real feels bad at the moment for me.
I feel a bit "had" with this new edition. It's supposed to be(well for me) a small casual game. Now to get into this game I got to get a box that has minis I don't want, got to buy 2 boxes of cards(8 teams total) to get 2 team cards and (cos I want them) got to buy 4 sets of minis to get 1 set I want.
That adds up to a lot of money. So I decided to just leave it...and see if someone else buys the box.
If not I'll just play the older version even less often.
This was always going to come down to price point. They could have at least maintained the $90 US, if not drop it a little like their previous Underworlds Starter Sets. But no, it's their new "cheap starter set" cost of $110.
Great review/thoughts Ash!
As an existing fan that fell off after Direchasm, this new version does enough to get me excited and back in.
However, im 100% with you. Ive wanted a 40k version for years, and thought that once it started to decline GW would take the chance to make the switch.
The Underworlds models have always been some of their best (imo), and youre right. Doing the same thing but for 40k would basically print them money.
I'm still hoping we see this system ported to 40k though, as this new template seems easier to balance and adjust.
GW already have a poor reputation re. Predatory game iterations that do little to move the experience on in a meaningful way, but seem optimised to make short term cash windfalls for the company (at the expense of the game/community). This release seems very much on brand for them.
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Been waiting for your review of this.
Well, uh, at least I will be able to free up some room on my shelf now? I have one core box full of boards (including ones GW sold separately), one full of cards (Including plenty of Rivals decks) and one full of tokens. Now they have reset things, I only need one box. Yay?
"Embergard, gersberms!" 😲
With the cost, i just dont see who this is for. Previous players arent happy about having to rebuy stuff and the loss of card art (the vocal crowd is really vocal about this). And as you point out, it doesn't really feel set to pull in new players. My fear is this wont do well and will be the end of Underworlds; not because the game isnt good but because of very corporate decisions.
I think I WILL use the old boards, because that one-sided board will get boring fast. You can modify the space with terrain and the board does not matter much it seems.
It’s double sided like the last one, with some different impassable terrain
Expensive yet they cheaped out on card artwork with mini photos only. Not impressed.
As an existing all in Underworlds player this is a sour grapes 'feels bad' moment. No surprise with GW breaking a game.. Obviously they've done this before.. Still feels bad that all my cards are dead. The cheapo pictures over art is another 'ugh' decision.. Sigh. I do like the Skaven models a lot. So there's that.
Sadly, this will be a pass for me at that price point.
What's the point of doing a review before you play the game?
The game hasn’t substantially changed to be honest. Theres going to be some subtle tactical changes to the scoring of the new decks but without context or being able to see the catalogue of other warbands there’s not much to review here apart from the aggregate product itself. This isn’t a ‘tactical’ review; it’s a product review.
Sorry mate I know its prob just an honest misstake but you released this an hour early which hurts us other creators that wait till 10 am brittish time to release. All the best!
Clocks went back last weekend across Europe.. That doesn't happen until this weekend in Canada. It is probably something mixed up there.
Yeah, simply a case of the usual release time set on RUclips that was last week (when it was correct) becoming incorrect today, and literally only for today as our clocks also go back tomorrow.