HEY!!! You really are a carpenter. Always enjoy tips. Regretfully, at my age, they bounce around in the back of my mind and then come out after I needed it. Thanks for sharing.
Also clamping a 2 x 4 on the plywood with the offset of the deck of the saw will help get a very straight line . And I prefer a right-handed saw Worm Drive just seems to work better for me to look at the blade on the line on the side of this saw I work on .
This is a debate as old as plywood. I actually had a heated discussion with somebody about it recently because they were doing it on a wobly portable table saw without help. At the end of the day cut plywood in whatever way is safest and most comfortable for you and the tools you have. Just don't do what ben does and clamp your work to the sawhorse :) If it has to be super cabinet perfect I usually clamp that crap out of with with a straight edge. Many a saw blade, extention cord, concrete floor, finger, toe, sawhorse, tailgate, and more have been lost to apprentices who didn't set the blade depth. Thanks for posting, I like the channel and the videos and discussions that follow.
drywall and plywood come in same dimensions of 4x8 here. so i just slide my drywall t-square along the edge with fine tip marker to make the long lines.
Having been a framer for a long time, holding your finger at the dimension needed is a perfectly acceptable method for ripping plywood or even lumber. I personally did it all the time. Just don't stick your whole hand under the base, you wont like the out come. Also if your a carpenter for long enough you develop callouses on your hand to protect them from a lot of slivers and other things even hot serving dishes. Just an FYI for everybody. If don't feel comfortable holding the base of the saw then you can always follow Ben's suggestions. Keep in mind that if you want to do it for a living your coworker might tell you to hurry up if your always grabbing the rip fence or vise grip pliers for a rip or to that needs to be done.
I find it perfectly acceptable too but had a bad gut feeling about suggesting the idea to weekend warriors. Pro's develop an intuitive sense of how to stay safe using our tools that most people don't have.
Really enjoying your videos, I'm currently refitting my kitchen, I in the middle of making a decorative free standing style base cabinet, I can't believe I measured the original cabinet to 1040mm/41"ish and somehow wrote it down as 1400mm/55". I wished I still used inches like yourselves, I was taught to use inches in school, some 35yrs ago, but trying to keep up with the times I try and use metric. I guess if it isn't broken, don't fix it.
Apprentice comes from Latin based languages for "to learn" (Spanish aprender- to learn). Apprentice means a learner. This is what a graduate of a medical school becomes in his/her residency. Hands on stuff.
You can also use a speed square by placing a pencil firmly at a 45 degree angle in one hand and pressing down on the ledge of the square with the other hand up to 7 inches.
@Joe T Worked with a guy the had his hand under the sheet of plywood to help him cut. So he cuts across the top of his hand, funniest thing is he did it again the next week.
Also in Vancouver, did not notice till you started ragging apprentices for some reason. Use the hand to guide myself but liked the tip for pencil inside instead of outside for marking. Keep them coming :)
That's a nice way to do it but you could just as easily use a 4 foot Aluminium straight edge. That's a pretty standard tool for a carpenter. I guess it all depends on the tolerance of the project. Great videos by the way !
Love that you gave a nod to the pinch grip method. That’s my go-to. But you could’ve mentioned the way to avoid the “apprentice cuts” is to set the depth of you’re blade just proud of the material thickness. Nevertheless. Love you’re channel. Canadian carpenters do drywall. Haters gonna.
"One of the "only" times I've had an apprentice.' LOL If a kid doesn't know the basics of how to simply set blade depth on a Skillsaw, mayyyyyyyyyybee he needs more tutelage just my humble opinion. Great video, I learned the plywood rip technique with "hands only" from a guy back in 1990. He was a big dude from Texas, and knew framing like the back of his hands, by far the best guy I ever learned the trades from. He had a "hack" for everything, except, his hacks always worked. "Big Bill" was his name, I wish you could have worked with him. Thanks again.
That range receptacle needs some blocking underneath it to raise it up, way to close to the floor might be a challenge putting the receptacle on after the floor goes in
I bought a rip guide. Costly but once it's set up right, you don't even need to measure. Now I need a good way to make triangles for a corner cabinet. Guess i'll just clamp a straight edge.
Do u have a video were u teach how to cutt all sorts of triangle methods cause im having difficult time figuring out a 90 inch angle but with different sides
Well, you could show us what/why/how exactly your DOING with those strips. INQUIRING minds want to know??? Thanks again for the useful information Ben!!!
That was great and funny 😂. Hey... there wasn’t any drywall! Yea yea... I’m rather new to your channel, really enjoying learning new techniques... this time with wood! Still laughing over what the “apprentice” did... you should see my plastic picnic table.... wait, did I just admit to that....
Gavin Edmett, much the same as you would with a knife except I push my tape against the sole of my skil saw, just forward of where the blade is and push the saw thru the cut at the same time as I push the tape along the board. With a bit of practice you can get cuts that are straighter than just following a pencil or chalk line and it saves you marking. More than adequate for shuttering or boarding up window openings
Ben, I’ve been watching you for your drywalling skills but I haven’t found anything on what kind of mud you use for an initial coat and then for final skim coat. I’ve just finished doing quite a large basement in my home. I filled, sanded and the scanned with lights until I thought every repair necessary was complete. After primer (which is white) I paint . Then when I start on floor or the drop ceiling, being on my knees or ladder, respectively, that’s when I see bubbles or sanding lines that were missed. It drives me nuts and, to be honest, makes me admire the artistic skills of you dry wallers. Should I be buying separate types of mud or should I mix?
if the drywall doesn't land on a stud you screw in a piece of backing half on existing drywall, half sticking out where your new piece will get screwed on.
I always fuck up/flabbergas when I have to cut width and length off of a full uncut board. So do I measure the length first than cut and than cut the width? I sometimes find myself kinda confused when cutting board🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The cowboy carpenters are running around 3 stories up on the rafters in the rain with 30 pound saws wearing nothing but running shoes a pair a shorts and a tool pouch while drinking a beer and smoking a cigarette. Seriously I'm not trying to argue these guys actually exist! At least that's how it is here in the GTA. You have to work really hard to get the cushy inside jobs especially in the winter!
Or .mark both sides and center, hold the chalk line at center and pop both sides from center... you need another person or screw to hold... I'm always sketch when markings like this, but it does work...
Oh man, I remember doing this way too much. Splinters for days. Pain is fantastic motivator to NOT do foolish things. Now instead of choking on sawdust, I get wet, play in poop 💩 and try not to blow up myself with Natural gas.
Hey Ben, you know an Apprentice is only as good as his/her Master.......LOL, just kidding Dude......GREAT WORK as always. Actually there are lots of people in many different career fields that lack the necessary basic skill sets for the job they "think" they want and should rethink their career choices. Great Job passing on your skills and experiences to help inspire others to achieve greatness within themselves!!!
I always like your show. I wouldn't even show cheats that might be dangerous some rocket scientist will cut off a finger or worse and blame you. ( I hope that never happens) I think you have lots a good skills. I was thinking up there in Canada you must have many days you are working on cold jobs. Not fun.
Natural selection, weeding out the (rocket scientist) A.K.A, morons. As it was written in the book of Tony 14:5, "the stupid must die so the smart will survive, Bada bing, bada boom. forget abouit"
Can you just take a drywall square, attach a binder clip at your number and put your carpenter pencil through the eyeholes? Then it's as simple as sliding the ruler down the side like you would a carpenter square. Mitigates against any wobble and wiggle from your tape measure
I got so confused thinking that Ben Degros has a Canadian brother who does woodworking, only to realize that it is Ben Degros... lol cheers from Toronto!
Your storey behind the apprentice bench. Lol. As a small business owner, it's tough to afford an employee/apprentice with the costs of having them around to learn.
Ya, I have had them cut my benches too... On the brighter side, I can teach people how to read a tape measure... what the hell they learning in school now a days?
Apprentices are great as an extra set of hands. As long as you treat them as an extra set of hands without a brain. Every movement they make should be shown and described in full detail. Ultimately any mistakes they make is our mistake in not giving them guidance. You can't really get mad at them. Because of course you won't tell them. But we've made stupider mistakes...
You still need to have some apprentices ….. we all learn our trades from others that learned from those before them. I'm sure Ben made mistakes when he first decided to pick-up a hammer and saw. It's called being human.
He was actually a good apprentice. I just like the story. I gave up trying to find people. I really didnt like being a boss. It's very difficult to find people right now let alone keep them.
I like the videos. The teasing of the apprentices.... meh. As a professional trainer making fun of folks that haven't done something before actually slows down the learning. It's all on the trainer, not on the newbie. Just now you were 30 seconds from showing us a method that is dangerous till you remembered the rip guide. Just saying. The pro almost did a pretty bad thing that could get people hurt. I like your videos 'cuz you have a good demeanor, good demo skills, and speak clearly, not too fast. All of us can be better trainers. If you're gonna tease a newbie do so privately, only after you & them have a good, strong trust factor going, and remind them what it was like when you were a newb as well.
When I first got into woodworking, framing, etc I thought imperial was ridiculous (and still do), but most of the industry in North America is still geared towards imperial. I gave up on my metric measuring tapes and just went with the flow - though personally I break everything down into /16ths so that I'm not working with different denominators. So instead of 5/8 + 3/16 + 1/2, I just do 10/16 + 3/16 + 8/16 - far fewer screwups - but man does it screw up other guys when I start reading off 1/2 inch as 8/16ths...it's what you're used to and why some countries...err, one country, still uses imperial. I use metric for everything else.
@@chadly211bucks Exactly ! What was good enough for the British to invent and standardize in 1800s is still good enough for the USA, Liberia, Burma...and....um, I think that's it now. And in breaking news ...."When NASA returns astronauts to the Moon, the mission will be measured kilometers, not miles."
The apprentice story is every worker claiming a skill in south Carolina...🤣😂🤣 hell yeah I'm conceded and think I'm all that, because California has a code for farting wrong, and south Carolina has like let's say sesame street skill in majority of trades... And yes if you do it wrong and it looks like shit, then its simple... its wrong... Not here tho... lol smh
Yep, I'm an apprentice cabinetmaker and it is amazing the sort of stuff that is only obvious once a journeyman yells at you.
Yeah I know exactly what you mean 😂
HEY!!! You really are a carpenter. Always enjoy tips. Regretfully, at my age, they bounce around in the back of my mind and then come out after I needed it. Thanks for sharing.
Whats up pog
I had a guy cut a set of wooden benches in half.
He spent the next hour trying to figure out a way to fix um.
Always enjoy your work. 👍👍
Also clamping a 2 x 4 on the plywood with the offset of the deck of the saw will help get a very straight line . And I prefer a right-handed saw Worm Drive just seems to work better for me to look at the blade on the line on the side of this saw I work on .
At first, I thought I was on the wrong channel, then you mentioned "drywall" and all was well again.
HE NEVER SAID FEATHER THE EDGE!
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣
This is a debate as old as plywood. I actually had a heated discussion with somebody about it recently because they were doing it on a wobly portable table saw without help. At the end of the day cut plywood in whatever way is safest and most comfortable for you and the tools you have. Just don't do what ben does and clamp your work to the sawhorse :)
If it has to be super cabinet perfect I usually clamp that crap out of with with a straight edge.
Many a saw blade, extention cord, concrete floor, finger, toe, sawhorse, tailgate, and more have been lost to apprentices who didn't set the blade depth.
Thanks for posting, I like the channel and the videos and discussions that follow.
drywall and plywood come in same dimensions of 4x8 here. so i just slide my drywall t-square along the edge with fine tip marker to make the long lines.
Having been a framer for a long time, holding your finger at the dimension needed is a perfectly acceptable method for ripping plywood or even lumber. I personally did it all the time. Just don't stick your whole hand under the base, you wont like the out come. Also if your a carpenter for long enough you develop callouses on your hand to protect them from a lot of slivers and other things even hot serving dishes. Just an FYI for everybody.
If don't feel comfortable holding the base of the saw then you can always follow Ben's suggestions. Keep in mind that if you want to do it for a living your coworker might tell you to hurry up if your always grabbing the rip fence or vise grip pliers for a rip or to that needs to be done.
I find it perfectly acceptable too but had a bad gut feeling about suggesting the idea to weekend warriors. Pro's develop an intuitive sense of how to stay safe using our tools that most people don't have.
I'm saving the vise grip tip for later. Thanks.
I'm not a carpenter I'm a painter so thank you this is very helpful
Really enjoying your videos, I'm currently refitting my kitchen, I in the middle of making a decorative free standing style base cabinet, I can't believe I measured the original cabinet to 1040mm/41"ish and somehow wrote it down as 1400mm/55".
I wished I still used inches like yourselves, I was taught to use inches in school, some 35yrs ago, but trying to keep up with the times I try and use metric. I guess if it isn't broken, don't fix it.
Apprentice comes from Latin based languages for "to learn" (Spanish aprender- to learn). Apprentice means a learner. This is what a graduate of a medical school becomes in his/her residency. Hands on stuff.
You can also use a speed square by placing a pencil firmly at a 45 degree angle in one hand and pressing down on the ledge of the square with the other hand up to 7 inches.
Dont feel so bad. I know someone that was using their leg as a bench and cut into it. What's even worse is I'm related to him.
@Joe T Worked with a guy the had his hand under the sheet of plywood to help him cut. So he cuts across the top of his hand, funniest thing is he did it again the next week.
Apostle Paul, is that You?!)))
Are you his brother and dad
Dude that last tip was instant suscribe material
Omg, Ben I watch your skate videos! Jack of all trades! 💀🤙
Woah, I just started woodworking couple of days ago and building drawers for my Paj and look at what I have stumbled upon: my fav skateboarder!
Also in Vancouver, did not notice till you started ragging apprentices for some reason. Use the hand to guide myself but liked the tip for pencil inside instead of outside for marking. Keep them coming :)
Thanks Ben!!! You look so True skater and hard worker.
I hope the apprentice is still working with you. Stuff like that make for the best stories at coffee break....lmao.
That's a nice way to do it but you could just as easily use a 4 foot Aluminium straight edge. That's a pretty standard tool for a carpenter. I guess it all depends on the tolerance of the project. Great videos by the way !
That's a whole other video I have planned.
Could you do a video on where you use drywall backing?
Woohoo! I've been watching a few of these today
A guide rail/track saw is a necessity. It would make your life so much easier and quicker.
Love that you gave a nod to the pinch grip method. That’s my go-to. But you could’ve mentioned the way to avoid the “apprentice cuts” is to set the depth of you’re blade just proud of the material thickness. Nevertheless. Love you’re channel. Canadian carpenters do drywall. Haters gonna.
"One of the "only" times I've had an apprentice.' LOL If a kid doesn't know the basics of how to simply set blade depth on a Skillsaw, mayyyyyyyyyybee he needs more tutelage just my humble opinion. Great video, I learned the plywood rip technique with "hands only" from a guy back in 1990. He was a big dude from Texas, and knew framing like the back of his hands, by far the best guy I ever learned the trades from. He had a "hack" for everything, except, his hacks always worked. "Big Bill" was his name, I wish you could have worked with him. Thanks again.
Thanks for the informative videos. 🙏
That range receptacle needs some blocking underneath it to raise it up, way to close to the floor might be a challenge putting the receptacle on after the floor goes in
I bought a rip guide. Costly but once it's set up right, you don't even need to measure. Now I need a good way to make triangles for a corner cabinet. Guess i'll just clamp a straight edge.
Neat trick. Thanks for the tip!
WHAT! An actual carpentry video from Vancouver Carpenter. Wow.
love all your education videos thank you ❤
Nice idea on vice grips... but I'm good on doing it unsafe, I got osha 10 cert, and yeah I'm still not a durp I can do it knowing I love my fingers
Wait, what the hell man. This is supposed to be a drywall channel!
lol. Thank you for the video.
I always just used an extra rafter square gauge instead of the vise grip. That's a good trick too!
Good one!! I always have those in my pouch.
Love your videos man. I’ve learnt so much from you.
Hummm... I too was an apprentice at some point! ;)
First time I've seen the vise grip trick.
Do u have a video were u teach how to cutt all sorts of triangle methods cause im having difficult time figuring out a 90 inch angle but with different sides
Haha got to love apprentices.
Also I like how you concerned about safety fingers while wearing your runners
Those are my steel toed Van's!
Well, you could show us what/why/how exactly your DOING with those strips. INQUIRING minds want to know??? Thanks again for the useful information Ben!!!
I will get there. Whole other topic.
Right On my Man - looking forward to it!!!
great tips! thanks!
thank you i do flooring this definitely helped .
That was great and funny 😂. Hey... there wasn’t any drywall! Yea yea... I’m rather new to your channel, really enjoying learning new techniques... this time with wood! Still laughing over what the “apprentice” did... you should see my plastic picnic table.... wait, did I just admit to that....
Yo, I love you for this!
For wide ruff cuts I’ve got fairly decent at using my tape as the guide, like u would with a knife for plasterboard
Ben Chippy how do you do that?
I’m well versed on doing that with a knife but are you talking about useing a skillsaw?
Gavin Edmett, much the same as you would with a knife except I push my tape against the sole of my skil saw, just forward of where the blade is and push the saw thru the cut at the same time as I push the tape along the board. With a bit of practice you can get cuts that are straighter than just following a pencil or chalk line and it saves you marking. More than adequate for shuttering or boarding up window openings
Muy buenos los videos
Very nice information sir
Ben, I’ve been watching you for your drywalling skills but I haven’t found anything on what kind of mud you use for an initial coat and then for final skim coat. I’ve just finished doing quite a large basement in my home. I filled, sanded and the scanned with lights until I thought every repair necessary was complete. After primer (which is white) I paint . Then when I start on floor or the drop ceiling, being on my knees or ladder, respectively, that’s when I see bubbles or sanding lines that were missed. It drives me nuts and, to be honest, makes me admire the artistic skills of you dry wallers. Should I be buying separate types of mud or should I mix?
What is the best way to skim a popcorn ceiling?
Safer using ur hands as a guide than clamping a vise grip to ur saw imo
Can you please explain how you use plywood strips for drywall backing? Inquiring minds want to know...always searching for drywall hacks.
if the drywall doesn't land on a stud you screw in a piece of backing half on existing drywall, half sticking out where your new piece will get screwed on.
I always fuck up/flabbergas when I have to cut width and length off of a full uncut board. So do I measure the length first than cut and than cut the width? I sometimes find myself kinda confused when cutting board🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Badass tips!
For the price of locking pliers you can order a new rip fence guide from amazon. Most cordless saws don’t come with one anymore.
nice tips, thx a lot m8
That is a good way to do it!!
Cowboy CARPENTER :D I like it
The cowboy carpenters are running around 3 stories up on the rafters in the rain with 30 pound saws wearing nothing but running shoes a pair a shorts and a tool pouch while drinking a beer and smoking a cigarette. Seriously I'm not trying to argue these guys actually exist!
At least that's how it is here in the GTA. You have to work really hard to get the cushy inside jobs especially in the winter!
Or .mark both sides and center, hold the chalk line at center and pop both sides from center... you need another person or screw to hold...
I'm always sketch when markings like this, but it does work...
Oh man, I remember doing this way too much. Splinters for days. Pain is fantastic motivator to NOT do foolish things. Now instead of choking on sawdust, I get wet, play in poop 💩 and try not to blow up myself with Natural gas.
Yeah I went from carpentry to sewers back to carpentry. Miss the sewer pension. Don't miss the poo.
@@Nightman2152 i went from weed to cocaine to meth and back to cocaine then straight to rehab, and jail time in between.
@@jltaco85 that escalated quickly
@@jltaco85 it be like that sometimes
Hey Ben, you know an Apprentice is only as good as his/her Master.......LOL, just kidding Dude......GREAT WORK as always. Actually there are lots of people in many different career fields that lack the necessary basic skill sets for the job they "think" they want and should rethink their career choices.
Great Job passing on your skills and experiences to help inspire others to achieve greatness within themselves!!!
How to cut degree cuts? DoI use a protractor? thanks
@Vancouver Carpenter. Oh the dainty hands of BEN. I though you were a carpenter, where's you callouses?
What is name tools by which you marked.
my apprentice got his hoodie drawstrings caught in the saw. I was waiting witness it again at 6:30 ;)
Don't give up on the apprentices!!!!
If I could ever find anymore I might not have.
I hear ya ...... I didn’t like being a boss either.
What kinda glove you use
I always like your show. I wouldn't even show cheats that might be dangerous some rocket scientist will cut off a finger or worse and blame you. ( I hope that never happens) I think you have lots a good skills. I was thinking up there in Canada you must have many days you are working on cold jobs. Not fun.
Natural selection, weeding out the (rocket scientist) A.K.A, morons. As it was written in the book of Tony 14:5, "the stupid must die so the smart will survive, Bada bing, bada boom. forget abouit"
Can you just take a drywall square, attach a binder clip at your number and put your carpenter pencil through the eyeholes? Then it's as simple as sliding the ruler down the side like you would a carpenter square. Mitigates against any wobble and wiggle from your tape measure
would be much slower
I got so confused thinking that Ben Degros has a Canadian brother who does woodworking, only to realize that it is Ben Degros... lol cheers from Toronto!
Awesome video! Now do I nail this or can I screw this to the door frame, before I swing from it?🤪😂🤣
Rob B. Tape it!!
Please teach us how to fix baseboards in house
I'm no DIYer but couldn't you use a Chalk Line?
The wood costed him his whole RUclips career
Your storey behind the apprentice bench. Lol. As a small business owner, it's tough to afford an employee/apprentice with the costs of having them around to learn.
Actual carpentry??? Blasphemy!!!
(Can we have more please)
I thought they used the metric system in Canada?
Ya, I have had them cut my benches too... On the brighter side, I can teach people how to read a tape measure... what the hell they learning in school now a days?
Keep it tout.
I thought you teach skateboarding tutorials too?
Track saw?
Bradyn Austin festool?
for framing work?
Why can't young tradesmen work with bare hands?
Afraid of calluses?
Black chalk?
You know what's better? Using a straight edge
Are you Canadian? Why is this not metric?
Apprentices are great as an extra set of hands. As long as you treat them as an extra set of hands without a brain. Every movement they make should be shown and described in full detail. Ultimately any mistakes they make is our mistake in not giving them guidance. You can't really get mad at them. Because of course you won't tell them. But we've made stupider mistakes...
If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least think you're dangerous!
Hi bro amazk
You still need to have some apprentices ….. we all learn our trades from others that learned from those before them. I'm sure Ben made mistakes when he first decided to pick-up a hammer and saw. It's called being human.
He was actually a good apprentice. I just like the story. I gave up trying to find people. I really didnt like being a boss. It's very difficult to find people right now let alone keep them.
Mount some 2x4's to the top of your benches and avoid them or you doing that.
do a kick flip
Speaking of saw depth .......Don't think yours was deep enough either?
So you assumed your apprentice had some common sense?
I like the videos.
The teasing of the apprentices.... meh. As a professional trainer making fun of folks that haven't done something before actually slows down the learning. It's all on the trainer, not on the newbie. Just now you were 30 seconds from showing us a method that is dangerous till you remembered the rip guide. Just saying. The pro almost did a pretty bad thing that could get people hurt.
I like your videos 'cuz you have a good demeanor, good demo skills, and speak clearly, not too fast. All of us can be better trainers. If you're gonna tease a newbie do so privately, only after you & them have a good, strong trust factor going, and remind them what it was like when you were a newb as well.
Imperial measuring system is so ridiculous 3/32nd 1/16th, 3/95th, 9/123213rd lol
I can't wait to see what the metric system does for timekeeping: 1.543932 millidays
There are two types of countries in world. Those that use the metric system and those that have gone to the moon! USA, USA, USA!!!!
When I first got into woodworking, framing, etc I thought imperial was ridiculous (and still do), but most of the industry in North America is still geared towards imperial. I gave up on my metric measuring tapes and just went with the flow - though personally I break everything down into /16ths so that I'm not working with different denominators. So instead of 5/8 + 3/16 + 1/2, I just do 10/16 + 3/16 + 8/16 - far fewer screwups - but man does it screw up other guys when I start reading off 1/2 inch as 8/16ths...it's what you're used to and why some countries...err, one country, still uses imperial. I use metric for everything else.
@@chadly211bucks Exactly ! What was good enough for the British to invent and standardize in 1800s is still good enough for the USA, Liberia, Burma...and....um, I think that's it now. And in breaking news ...."When NASA returns astronauts to the Moon, the mission will be measured kilometers, not miles."
rashton33 well... we use metric for nothing but drug busts and the Olympic’s. Highs and lows I guess. I’m 1/8th Cherokee Indian, BTW.
I made it by myself. I used Stodoys woodworking plans for that.
Alse, i use my stair gauges as a fence for narrow rip cuts
The apprentice story is every worker claiming a skill in south Carolina...🤣😂🤣 hell yeah I'm conceded and think I'm all that, because California has a code for farting wrong, and south Carolina has like let's say sesame street skill in majority of trades...
And yes if you do it wrong and it looks like shit, then its simple... its wrong...
Not here tho... lol smh
Hahaha. You assumed.