Counterfeit Parts!
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- I recently had a catastrophic experience with counterfeit parts. In this video, I share my experience and offer advice on how to avoid buying counterfeit parts. I hope you find the information helpful.
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Oh man does the advice of "If it's too good to be true, then it probably is" rings true for almost every aspect in life.
Always brotha
It gets worse though. I bought a set of OE Bosch spark plugs from a reputable parts supplier's eBay store. All failed within three months and one actually cracked and left ceramic in the cylinder. These were only about 5% less than dealer prices but it was the expedited delivery that swayed me. Ended up buying AGAIN from the dealership and could see some telltale signs when comparing the two.
And yet RUclipsrs openly take sponsorships from websites that sell counterfeit computer software.
I've called Amazon before when I've had problems and they do resolve the issue. Including getting your money back from price gouging suppliers and other issues I've had. Thank you for the heads up on those water pumps.
i deliberately put counterfeit parts on my 2005 mustang 4.0. specifically, plastic thermostat housing. oem version was plastic, lasted for 50k miles before it cracked and started leaking. replaced with another oem housing, another 50k miles it cracked again. found someone on amazon selling 'counterfeit' ones made out aluminum, and never had another issue with it. actually it was a nicely made piece...
That's because you drive a ford and their parts are usually crap anyways...just like VW.
That was not OEM counterfeit part, that was a small entrepreneur-manufacturing a more durable replacement part. Since it such a niche part I doubt it is popular enough to have been counterfeited with a substandard part but it is possible,
Late 90's Ford's with 4.6L engine, had that Plastic Intake Manifold that would fail early. GM's 3800 series engines, 1998-2004, had a plastic manifold slapped on them, resulting in widespread upper intake manifold failures and lower intake manifold gasket failures just a few years later. Toyota's 2.4L 2AZFE engine had a plastic/foam exhaust that would cause a blown head gasket. Lots of planned obsolescence being injected into cars.....
Was it cheaper than the original plastic housing?
This was why back in the day, MOOG suspension parts were called "The Problem Solver." They looked at OEM suspension parts that didn't last, came up with something better, and sold it that way. Now many of their parts suck too.
Good video! Most everyone has been burnt by counterfeit parts that's in this business, but some folks aren't savvy enough to know it was counterfeit. When you get into high performance aftermarket, the problem is even worse. Bad parts + good installation = bad. Good parts + bad installation = still bad. Good parts + good installation = success. Cheaper parts have their place, but knowing when and where to use them is the absolute key as you said. Don't be the guy that keeps returning "defective" calipers but yet didn't replace the brake hose...
I appreciate how Eric, unlike these counterfeit parts, remains genuine after all these years. There're other car channels I've stopped following because as they've grown in numbers, they also have grown disingenuous. But Eric has always kept it real! Thanks, and keep up the great content! 👍
Thank you!
This video hits home considering my $50 fan bracket on my 4runner blew up earlier. Bearing separated from the housing, all the belts flew off and it ate up my radiator. I knew i should've bought the oem for $130 but im broke quite frankly. Now ive got about $250 in repairs
A customer brought me a timing belt/water pump/serpentine belt kit that appeared to be genuine Honda just like the parts in your video. I installed it in his odyssey van and about six months later he called me and said his engine was making a noise. He brought it over and I found that the new serpentine belt had chunks missing out of it which was causing the noise. I could see where the printing on the back of the belt with the Honda part number and Honda logo was all but gone. This got me really concerned about the quality of the other parts in the kit. I did some research and found other people having similar problems and learned about the Chinese counterfeiting. The customer looked up the eBay seller he bought the parts from and the seller was based out of Guangdong China. He bought genuine Honda parts from the local dealer and I replaced all the Chinese counterfeit parts with genuine Honda. Lesson learned
Maybe five years ago, the starter on my daughter's Honda gave up--after 250k miles, it was great that it had lasted that long--and I took it to my usual mechanic to get it replaced. Then, a month, later, the new starter literally burned up, flames coming out, lots of smoke, etc. My mechanic said the electrical damage was too great for him to fix and sent me to a specialist--who, a few days and $700 later, told me the cause of the fire was, and I quote, "the cheap-sh1t made-in-China starter."
The epilogue is that my (now former) mechanic refused to stand behind his work and stuck me with the $700 bill to repair the damage his original installation had cost me. The moral is that you can't seem to trust even the professionals not to use fake parts. (The secondary moral--for my former mechanic--is that he lost my business which, with me, my wife, and my three kids, was the loss of six cars worth of revenue.)
Sorry you had to deal with that. It's an unfortunate situation for sure.
Thanks for sharing this, definitely a good story and one to make me think about my current mechanic
lol he knows as a mechanic that sometimes brand new parts are junk, brand doesnt seem to matter when u work on enough cars nothing will seem to crazy to be true
I know most mechanics don't like customers bringing there own parts but it seems like in the situation where you want to be sure you get say a genuine Toyota or Honda part there isn't a better option.
@@MrMikey1273 all parts are subject to defect. there all made in mexico or china. i buy house brand over moog now because of part falures
I've had several parts from both eBay and Amazon fail to last as long as they should have. They're getting so good at cloning parts these days it's nearly impossible to discern between genuine and counterfeit. I err on the side of caution and buy OE parts from an OE parts supplier. Paying a 10% (or more) higher price for a part that's genuine is WELL worth the headache-savings for me.
First time in a long time that my birthday has landed on an ETCG1 video. Thanks for the cake Eric.
I once got a counterfeit Dorman part, it never failed.
I bought a OEM PNP switch for a BMW from WorldPac and what I got was a used part that been glued together lol
Please tell me you reached out to them to fix this. Holy crap.
@@ShahabSheikhzadeh Yeah of course. I realize this problem as soon as I got it out of the box.
In the cellphone repair industry I have a handful of customers tell me the OEM part costs $15 on “Amazon/eBay” and in the title and description it says “GENUINE OEM APPLE PART” or something along those lines and I know damn well Apple isn’t selling them there nor do they even make the parts as easily and readily available to consumers and third parties.
Eric, good point about counterfeit parts. Some OEM have good videos how to tell the difference such as with spark plugs. Think it was either NGK or Denso plugs. Another point is aftermarket. One example is that my brother's wife had a Celica water pump go out at about 130k. So he buys non OEM from a national chain with a lifetime warranty for about $30 at the time. OEM cost about $65. The first one lasted about 30k miles when it leaked. He could not find the receipt for warranty so he buys another one. The 2nd lasted about 20k when the bearing went out.
In my experience it's always best to have the parts in hand when you buy them (aka buying local). I know it can't be done in a lot of cases (I have to order too) but I try my absolute best to buy it over the counter at a shop. That a way I touch it, see it, feel it as I hand them the money for it....... and makes the dreaded "return" a LOT simpler & quicker.
That sucks Eric.
Great video, this is really important information especially for components as critical as timing belts, water pumps, tensioners, etc,
I once bought an aftermarket Clutch Master Cylinder for the 8th Civic Si that I used to own. Went through the process of installing, bleeding it, etc. Everything seemed great, it lasted 2 whole days before one of the seals broke and left me stranded on the side of the road 😂 Fun times!
I’m with ya, there are some areas where it’s ok to save money but others where it’s just not worth it.
20+ year shop owner/tech.
Customer brought in Amazon Honda timing belt/water pump on Honda Odyssey. I said I would install them but no warranty on parts failure of course. Came back within 2 months with broken timing belt (broke in 2 places) Luckily valves did not bend but I did have to charge them again. I researched it and found the Chinese supplier online selling the counterfeit Honda water pump for $8 each.
NOTE: I also highly trust Aisin and never have had a failure from them.
Yup. Bought the exact same "Genuine Honda" kit on eBay for my 07 TL. Thankfully I found a forum posting where someone showed how to differentiate between counterfeit and genuine Honda parts. I didn't install them and was able to get a refund. I used an Aisin TKH-002 kit instead.
Gates makes good water pump kits and belts according to LHT Perofrmance
I once got some cheap off-brand breaker points for my parent's old Buick. A few days later, it had problems with stalling and running rough. We ruled out the points since we had just changed them. After checking out everything else, I went and got an official AC Delco part, put it in and the problem was solved. I learned my lesson.
Twice at the dealership I've had customers bring in "Honda" roof rails they bought online, and they were counterfeit. They had different hardware, slightly different design, and didn't even have the mounting holes for cross bars, making them useless. I did not install them.
Great video thanks for the info, I watched a similar video in the Ford / Motorcraft realm on FordTechMakuloco, its amazing how similar parts look. I think the other takeaway from this stuff is thank goodness for you guys and your channels, I don't think a DIY'er without the years of working experience would discover counterfeit parts like you seasoned experts. Thanks for sharing !
AISIN is The Oem Maker For Toyota Cool to see Honda Uses them Also never had a issue With Aisin have had a Aisin Water Pump and Fan Clutch last 23 years before they needed to be replaced very impressive quality @ETCG1
Another saying that rings true is; "Buy once, cry once".
It makes no sense to buy cheap parts if they fail prematurely and you need to spend your money and time purchasing replacements.
I learned the hard way when I bought discount struts for my Honda Accord that turned out to be absolute garbage and had to do the entire job over, only to end up purchasing top tier parts as replacements for the cheap stuff.
Lesson learned.
I have had luck with things like double DIN trim faceplates, Bluetooth retrofit modules, interior LED bulbs and the like. What those parts have in common is that they aren't safety-critical, and they won't destroy the drivetrain if they fail. I'd never get drivetrain, brake or suspension parts from Amazon because those can be dangerous if they fail.
I have purchased less expensive parts many times otherwise I couldn't afford to keep a vehicle. The time I don't is when the labor is extensive or at that moment, I can afford the real deal.
in the nearby auto parts store I changed the track belts twice the exact number but 1 inch shorter I finally bought gates and no problem just fit
I did a timing belt and water pump on my friend's 2005 Honda Civic. The belt and water pump was still ok but I told her it was time. I gave her the choice of getting a OEM Honda part from the dealer from Rock Auto. Her brother in-law suggested Ebay but I told her to avoid Ebay because it maybe counterfeit hence the cheap price. We went to the dealer.
Counterfeit spark plugs are what I've ran into the most. NGK, Denso, and Motorcraft so far. I'm sure there are others.
huh, good to know. Where are you finding them?
@@Oblithian The fakes?? Amazon and Ebay. There are a few videos on YT on spotting the fakes.
I think NGK website even has a guide to separate genuine from fake
Bought a timing belt for an MR2 that turned out to be fake. It even had Toyota printed on it with the original part number. Only found out that it was fake when it snapped and then other people mentioned that fake ones looked like mine.
I'd love to see a vid about everything on Hondas you believe should be OEM without question. I know alot of yours from watching for years like fluids. Hondabond, certain gaskets, sensors, etc. I always take these to heart in the work I do and it hasn't let me down so thanks!
I don’t mind buying certain parts (especially Honda/Acura Parts) online. But I have been burned by buying NGK spark ⚡️ plugs recently from eBay.
& when I did my timing-belt on my 2010 Acura TL… I didn’t play around & bought everything I needed from the dealer. It cost me around $600-USD, but it was worth it (since I did the job with a friend).
No way do I buy any "important" parts for my cars off of eBay or Amazon...always use reputable online vendors for such things
one time i bought a rear right control arm for my acrua cl.. turns out one side is completely different from the other. but what this manufacture did was basically clone the left side and flipped it the other direction. looked very similar to the other side but did not work in practice.. and every time i went over a bump the car tail end would do a shimy from left to right.. then i bought the original from acura and realize it looks completely different.. and it fixed the prob.
Noooo freaking way. It’s funny after I watched the very first video of how to do this water pump on an Acura TL I went and bought the same kit that you used in the other video and this weekend I had to re do the water pump again because my belt snapped while I had it in my drive way it’s funny how relevant I had the same exact issues going on very helpful video thanks to #erickthecarguy
Sorry you had to deal with that. I wish I could have helped you sooner.
There are also counterfeit Aisin parts too. Best bet is to buy from dealer or reputable online Honda website
Ran into a similar problem with Honda Lawnmower parts - I had genuine parts on hand so when the counterfeits showed up it was obvious - and yes, the counterfeits came from an Amazon purchase - blamed myself for being so stupid.
Sometimes those manufacturer redesigns make ut even harder.
There are way too many oem fake parts online eBay and Amazon. Had a shop do a timing belt water pump install with parts directly from the Honda dealer and the belt broke 2months later. The shop had to eat the cost of the repairs. Aisin kits I’ve used for a long time but it’s not impossible for them make fake aisin kits too. Crazy!!!!
bought a new dirvers side visor for a 2012 honda accord se…local dealer wanted $208, could get it from reputable online OEM parts sites for $104, ended up spending $48 on an aftermarket part…..even if it sucks it’s still better than $208 from a dealer…asked the dealer if they’d match these smaller dealers who are using a 3rd part parts site for oem parts, and they said we won’t match it
I had the same problem everything said Honda paid $165 for timing belt kit the only thing that didn’t say Honda was the serpentine belt it said Bongo. After I replaced everything I drove the car probably 10 to 15 thousand miles.My daughter recked her car so I let her drive my Honda. 3 months later the timing belt broke while she was in a parking lot idling. I got lucky and it didn’t hit anything the belt wrapped around the crankshaft and stopped it before it could do damage. I put a Gates belt on it and so far haven’t had any problems.
Eric, Aisin for the water pump, and tensioner and Gates/Unitta for the timing belt . They are oem manufacturers.
Aisin is one of several suppliers to Honda. If you look at the castings sometimes they say YNA, or another brand I can’t remember that I’ve taken off JDM engines. Gates and Mitsuboshi both supply timing belts, and the timing components (idler and tensioner) are NSK or NTN I think. Aisin sells a boxed kit with everything all together and they even include the sticker to label the engine with the mileage and date at which the last timing maintenance was performed. I think the firewall is the best spot for it since the sticker may not survive on the plastic timing cover. I understand getting fooled because Aisin does in fact use a different casting for their aftermarket supply chain than they do for the OEM supply chain, since Honda wants their name on the part, and probably some other numbers for their purposes with failure and recall tracking. I think I’ve even noticed the pulley pin looking different, and wondered if they use the exact same seal and bearing or not. An email to Aisin might clear up some of those matters if you wanted to investigate further. I hope you enjoyed it in Indy btw :)
I got a (very) "good deal" on a Honda Accord starter. It was advertised as having a "lifetime warranty". I don't want to do this again, because I had to remove the intake manifold to install the starter. So far it's been operationally perfect. I decided to read the fine print. "The "lifetime warranty" does not cover normal wear.
I called Honda once about 4 years ago, to ask their help in shutting down a ebay Honda counterfeit parts seller. Honda had no interest in stopping the seller, and the reason they gave is that they stopped making this particular part for my 2003 Accord!
Problem with buying legit parts from dealerships is that if you are buying for an older vehicle that the parts may have been sitting on shelves for the last 15 years. They are wore out before putting them on your vehicle. I don't think there is a good scenario to buying parts for older cars. No matter how you roll you are going to get junk. This just has to be an understanding when restoring older vehicles. Be prepared to buy everything 3 times on your project.
How do Auto parts go bad? They're not food. A water pump sitting on a shelf isn't going to have bad bearings because it's been sitting for years....
@@samholdsworth420 Seals and rubber dry out from not being used.
Stopped buying from rock auto after receiving a moog strut with a ac delco sticker on the side packaged decently in a ac delco box. Thought someone might of returned it to scam and make money but the replacement was sent from a different warehouse and was the exact same thing. Still have one of them sitting in my garage in the box! One year later bought a control arm for a truck and was the exact same thing! Moog part all taped up in a ac delco box! Granted, I would of let go of the how pissed off I was if I could actually use the part, but they wasn't even for the right vehicle!!!!
That video titled Honda J series timing belt is still up. I just searched and found it and watched part of it.
I only install Aisin timing kits never had an issue most come with OE parts. They are OE supplier for Honda and most Japanese manufactures
Maybe... since the waterpump was not flat in the package, the pulleys didn't line up well and slowly ate the edge of the belt. I saw in another video that there was a pile of fibers in the cover. We may never know but this seems plausible to me.
The pump flattened out when I fastened it to the engine. If I were to guess, it was the hydraulic tensioner that failed, or was incorrect from the beginning.
@@ETCG1 I think the water pump, tensioner and pulleys were probably decent quality, at least I don't think they caused the failure here. No telling how long they would last, though. I just think the rubber used in making the belt was low quality. I've seen it in other aftermarket rubber parts, i.e. clutch cables, engine mounts, etc. I've seen aftermarket rubber parts fail in short order. In the case of a Nissan clutch cable I saw mine fail in less than a month. I put an Anchor rear engine mount on a Honda Odyssey and within 6 months it had failed worse than the first one.
In the uk we go for gates brand usually on timing belt kits.
Watch out for a lot of the Gates products. Much of it is now made in China. Specifically, the Honda water pumps made by Gates are ones I've seen leak. I've never seen an Aisin or Honda OE water pump leak.
I just bought a genuine water pump from Honda. It came in a blue plastic bag, heat sealed. Not shrink wrapped. Also new Honda parts come with QR codes on the stickers now.
Yes, I have got many counterfeit parts online. Not only Honda parts, but Toyota it is a BIG one and now Hyundai/Kia counterfeit parts are running online. It used to be eBay the place where you will most likely get counterfeit parts from China but now seems to be that they migrate to Amazon and now you get lots of counterfeit part at Amazon too. The good part it is that if you spotted a counterfeit part at the early stage (mean when you get it and compare it with the one you just got out from the vehicle and it is not exactly the same or the font (specially with Toyota parts) it is not the same size, or color you know it most likely fake product. Just stick it back on the box and return it to Amazon without any problem, VS eBay you need to go back and forth with the seller, hopping they will respond the msg and then escalate to PayPal.
I've gotten burnt on both the scamazon and fleabay trying to obtain OEM parts. Generally the listing will show factory packaging and marketing but the packaging and parts will have a "close but no cigar" feeling when you open it up.
Thanks Eric for posting this up. Same thing happen to me 3 years ago… Lesson learn. Bought it on eBay ship from China. Price too good to be true.
Many years ago I owned a small 'Compact' car that I changed a front wheel bearing on with an 'OEM' part from a local parts store. I got almost 140 miles out of the bearing before it started complaining like the worn one I took out! Hmm! OEM i suspect not!!
On the flip side Some Dealership parts can actually be CHEAPER than aftermarket stuff!! A friend bought a full set of hydraulic tappets at a dealer that were HALF the price elsewhere. Always worth getting a dealership price even if it is to laugh yourself silly at the ridiculous price.
There are good deals to be had on eBay, for OEM parts, but you gotta be super critical of seller, circumstances and parts themselves. e.g. NOS deals worth a look.
This happened to me Last year I installed for a friend of mine on his Acura. He bought counterfeit parts on Ebay that were Labeled as Honda. I suspected something was wrong when I tried to install the Tensioner bracket with the pulley on I notice it wouldn't work because it was Machined wrong.Used the new pulley with the old bracket went on and Worked fine. 6 months later belt shredded completely and left him stranded. I told him if he buys parts Im not responsible if they fail.Honda took it apart and confirmed it wasn't A Honda kit. Like you said if it's too good to be true it probably is
I just bought the Aisin timing belt kit with the water pump. For what's at stake I'm not taking any chances.
The gamble for non oem parts is directly related to how long to change the part. All day job in the driveway = OEM only. 5 minute job = maybe risk it.
i'm stupid still bying a cheap and faulty aftermarket windshield washer pump recently, hopefully now I learned to only get known good brand parts....
Not counterfeit per se, but I have had poor quality aftermarket parts that don't work properly from new. (TPMS and ABS sensors)
You forgot to mention Gates and Dayco. I have been using Dayco timing belt kits on my Civic for a long time and have never had any problems.
Aisin also makes parts for Toyota/Lexus. They probably make parts for most of not all Japanese manufacturers
Even going to a dealer is no guarantee of getting genuine parts. I've read that Toyota dealers in Australia were duped into buying quite a lot of fake OEM parts a few years ago. It's often very difficult to tell a fake from a genuine one nowadays.
Aisin is decent quality. They made my transmission and iirc the mounts? For my 05 V50. Aisin is also used in CX7 and CX9 trans for the older body styles!
There's another car channel on RUclips who specializes in mostly Toyota stuff He has a whole video showing the difference ever so slight, in packaging and things to look for
Bought a “bargain OEM” Ford DPFE sensor on eBay. The box looked pretty genuine but the sensor had NO Ford branding or even a part number, I was worried. The sensor crapped out 6 weeks later. Went to a dealership where they pointed out the counterfeit flaws on even the box too.
Got what I suspected to be a fake Denso MAF from Amazon, threw a MIL as soon as I started the engine. Came in a Toyota genuine parts box and everything. They refunded my purchase and all, but the price difference was substantial, so I agree with you 100 percent.
I work in IT and people balk about the cost of things because 'It's so much cheaper on Amazon!'. Nearly everything on Amazon that says it's OEM but that isn't reasonably close to OEM price (and sometimes even then), is counterfeit. Some try really hard to pass off the parts as OEM, but others just use a picture of the OEM part and send a blatant knockoff.
Eric I also had to learn the hard way with some parts thank you for sharing your wonderful videos I watching from South Africa
I tried to learn the 'hard way' so that my viewers don't have to. Thanks for the comment.
Chinesium rubber bits tend to be made from lampblack and snot.
I've been looking at the exceptionally cheap radiators on ebay for my 1983 Impala and came to the conclusion it's too good to be true. There are a number of people documenting failed welds in the aluminum. You're right; seems too good to be true, so it is.
A friend bought one of those eBay cheapo rads once. When it came the core section was about 2/3 the thickness of the original and the system held less coolant because of it. It did ok, but it was for a cavalier gm use to oversize their cooling systems to leave reserve for poor maintenance.
I used to work at an auto body repair shop. This customer dropped his car off for a wheel alignment so I went to drive it to the other building n as I'm turning the steering wheel I felt a bad pop n car wouldn't move had to call the shop get wreaker out there. Tow it back to main shop only to find cv axle had come apart. This is what the owner of the car replaced. It was suppose to be Detroit axle cv axlees. They were cheap knock offs
AISIN and DENSO are owned by Toyota. Even BMW now uses Denso electrical parts in their vehicles. Aisin is their mechanical parts manufacturing unit and Denso (Denki is Electricity in Japanese) is the Electrical parts manufacturing unit.
Aisin is oe supplier for alot of cooling systems parts for Toyota. My 1gr v6 and my moms 2gr both have aisin stamped on their water pumps.
I've just learned to buy online or buy a quality aftermarket replacement. Never really trusted the "good" deals on eBay and amazon
Guess I got lucky buying OEM Ford motor mounts off ebay.
Went OEM because the one fluid filled mount apparently no 3rd party manufacturer can make a decent replacement that lasts for more than a few months.
I especially love aftermarket parts that say are for and fit a 07 tl but dont fit at all , or are ment for 04 to 06 tl or accord and so much more and can lead to so may issues
Even name-brand after-market parts can let you down. It just adds another level of absurdity to repairing cars when there are counterfeit parts around as well.
There is a big difference between retail and trade prices of genuine dealer parts. Therefore, there are some valid sellers of genuine parts at discount prices.
The trick is trying to spot when, before you have fitted them to the car...
Absolutely this, so many "reputable" aftermarket brands are re-boxing junk and slapping their name on it. There's nothing more annoying than ordering what you think is a quality part from a quality source, only to receive garbage from the usual scumbags in a nice box. Hell, sometimes they don't even change the box anymore.
Gates make great timing belts and water pumps, NSK too . the important thing is tht they are genuine made in japan and you'll be good
AISIN is what Toyota uses for a lot of their parts. And Toyota owns part of the company
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisin
The only part I have had issue with aftermarket
Was a fuel filter that restricted flow too much and burned up fuel pump.
After that I always used Purolator. And never had issues .
I wanted to change my chrome emblems on my Ram to the black ones. I found a set on eBay saying they were OEM, but when they showed up it didn't say Mopar anywhere on the packaging. I said screw it, and put them on. Almost instantly they started lifting off because they were warped. Which i didn't notice untill they started lifting. The tape was sticking but the plastic was lifting off the tape. I contacted the seller with pictures. He said i was sol because I installed them and even accused me of not cleaning the body panel properly. When I explained again that the foam tape is sticking the emblems aren't sticky to the tape he just stopped responding. I reported them to eBay but i still see them selling the exact same emblems to this day. I ended up buying actual OEM ones from an online dealer.
That sucks. Next time just paint your old ones. ruclips.net/video/7XGijla5OBY/видео.html
my experience, I bought a brand new Yuasa sealed battery for a motorcycle off eBay. The battery post melted away in a year, and after repaired the post, it lasted less than 2 yrs. Never again. Years later, I realized it may have been a counterfeit!
Bought some severe duty ball joints on clearance from rockauto. They broke on less than 5000 miles
I remember replacing a water pump on my Pontiac years ago. I felt good about replacing it myself - everything fit right, didn't have any real problems, but it failed in about 2 weeks time and I remember feeling like I had missed something even though I had double checked everything. Turned out to be a bad pump in general, but it compromised my own confidence to do those kinds of repairs. I don't remember what I paid for it, whether it was 'cheaper' than usual or not, but the experience still cost me a visit to a "certified" mechanic. Go figure I haven't had a problem with it sense.
So I have a 2008 Base TL. I hade a bolt in the tensioner house break right at the block. The pulley was also starting to make a little noise. I checked Acura and the housing was just over $400. Local parts store was $150. I choose to use the Honda parts because I just know Honda parts are worth the investment. Just like their cars. Great information ETCG
You might consider salvage parts next time to save a bit of money. Thanks for the comment.
Timing parts. Fuel pumps. I go to the stealership. I take no more chances on napa brand timing or fuel pumps after quick failures.
I have found that the dealers around here for Ford are very competetive with OEM prices- I always get oem from dealers
Long ago I bought a Dodge Dynasty that wouldn't run after replacing the water pump. Long story short, they screwed up the timing. An OEM belt had paint marks on it to help set the timing. After market didn't. Got a $3,500 car for $500 and a timing belt.
Bosch is one of the biggest victims of counterfeit parts. Especially sensors like temp and knock sensors. Fuel injectors as well...
Next time, try Gates replacement parts Eric. It is half price of Honda but quality is not bad neither. I replaced mine about 50 k miles ago and still running fine
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i have 2002 acura 3.2CL have 230000 miles with original water pump .change timing belt and hydraulic tensioner at 150000 miles.original water pump last very long time,never seen one have premature failed
My current employer has a fetish for napa and I've gotta admit that aside from ridiculous delivery times, I'm fairly impressed.
Can't believe they're counterfeiting car parts now
Motorcraft parts on E Bay and also Moog have same issue. There is a video out there that tells how to identify the counterfeit. Sorry I don`t have the info on video.
FordTechMakeULoco did a good video on how to tell if Motorcraft parts are genuine
Retailers like Amazon sell genuine parts right beside counterfeit. My Toyota timing belt/water pump kit I got from Amazon in 2014 is still going strong, too bad not everyone is as fortunate. Good rule, if the price seems too good, it's probably fake parts.
If a single layer shrink wrap can bend the metal, that should be a red flag right there.
Ive never run into counterfeit parts but cheap aftermarket parts are hit and miss, ive bought sensors from napa and you just have to keep returning them until you get one that works
I had a timing belt fail on my 91 Hilux ute didn't have the money fix it or get a new engine I miss that ute every day
This just happened to me on my Honda Odyssey 2008 j35a7... Had to get both heads redone. Was a horrible experience
I remember reading an article that says at least 2 out of 5 new car parts on Amazon and Ebay are counterfeit.
I ordered an AC Delco serpentine belt once. It was a knockoff. It read, "DC Delco"
I know not a situation of thinking it was OE... but I bought a close out on some drums for my honda civic wagon from rock auto. Nabbed 6 of them cause I figure hey I'll have enough of em that I won't have to ever buy this again. They were all so warped to get them turned round took them all well out of spec.