I screwed up bad in high school. I'd get suspended and go work in the lumber yard (rewarding my self with pay). Im a concrete carpenter and hydrovac operator now. I'm one of the only guys who reads books and understands extreme ownership (thanks to Jocko) on the crews BUT its incredibly frustrating at times (everyones hung over & dabbling with drugs). I'm currently reading a book by Christina hoff Sommers - "the war against boys". She just mentioned that being suspended ONCE reduces our chances of graduating high school by 17%. FML. I wish I had better leadership back then. BUT, I get up at 4am and get on the pull up bar. I just had a long walk with my working dog in the rain (GOOD.) so she can get after it early too and feel relaxed today. Discipline = Freedom. Im getting after it and have a plan. ...Also, just gifted the way of the warrior kid to my single mom friend and her young son LOVES it -"read me one more chapter" x4 :) She messaged me last night that she just ordered #2 & 3. THANKS JOCKO & ECHO! you guys are changing the world.
As a 17 year old male. Thank you for all the wisdom and knowledge you've shared, it has helped me greatly to better improve myself Hopefully I'll be able to work hard and make a better future
My parents routinely make fun of me for not knowing the things they didn't bother to teach me. For example my mother always thinks that I don't have any technical skills in terms of construction work. When I was young she always told me this. When I wanted to help, she told me "don't bother, you are bad at this". So I only did construction things away from house. When I'm helping others they are grateful it's fun to do. But when I'm at home, I will only get negativity towards me when I'm helping. I get told "you're doing it wrong", so I ask "can you show me how then?". Then I get told to get out. Not even allowed to watch and learn. Just so that they can make fun of me later on. I don't mind. It taught me that I shouldn't help my parents because they don't want help from me. Got enough things to learn and do for my own life anyway.
to add to what Jocko said ~ while in college, my father expressed and i understood: you can enjoy booze, drugs, women, now..... - the easy fun - or you can focus on this degree - and the kind of fun you will have later in life. I know you dont see it now, but it will by far exceed those simple pleasures. hard concept to grasp in a young moment - but the reality is that - put in the work, and the payout later is boat houses and boats - not a day on a boat with someone you will never know again. Not a puff one night. not a hammered night. A life of choosing when your pleasure comes. And some if not most of that you will find is a job well done.
Challenging youths to use critical thinking , forcing them to attempt to understand and analyze all the decisions they make (and the impact of those decisions), is a big contributor to building confidence in themselves. Which, in my opinion, gives them the strength to start taking ownership and leading a powerful and meaningful life. Thank you for sharing your passion, and explaining the power of responsible leadership the way you know how. This is one of the most important things a community, company, classroom, team, etc. can have, responsible leadership that knows how to take ownership, good or bad.
This is next level "I'm not mad. I'm disappointed." Except it's "I'm not mad. I'm disappointed in my own ability to convey just how important this is to your life. Please teach me where I went wrong." It's also you vs I statements.
Jocko's videos always seem to pop up when you need that specific lesson the most. As a high school teacher myself, i struggle trying to convey this kind of message to my students also. It's sad to me that covid has ruined now the end and start of 2 school years. There was no closure to the first and there is no real "beginning" with this coming year. Regardless, im going to take the message of showing that ownership in both myself and to my students. That's the only way they will succeed and at the end of the day, that's all i want as a teacher, to see these students go on and achieve great things. Thank you Jocko and Echo!
since many have stated their appreciation for your words here, i thought i might join in. i headed towards becoming that homeless person 2 years ago. i hit rock bottom back then. and jordan peterson helped me get back up on my feet and adjust my attitude towards myself without lying to myself. and then i saw your podcast with him, and since then i followed you as well. and you help me to adjust myself towards the surrounding, helping me to lead myself and others. i just started my education as an it guy which i decided to start a year ago. thanks to you and jp, i am more honest to myself and better off as ever before. thanks.
Wow this is so helpful for me to apply at work!!!! I’m a closing manager and have been having a hard time wrapping my head around these young kids #1 not showing up, not calling in, walking off on the job because they had a spur the moment “religious service”, and taking their breaks per their social life schedule #2 having no initiative or interest to actually work, stay busy or ask, “what’s next?” #3 not even showing up on their first day The behavior of these kids should fall back on the parents and I cannot believe that these parents would actually allow their kids to behave like this....what kind of parenting have they actually done? They absolutely don’t care to work or do a good job. Go figure, I’m in an affluent Bay Area suburb and most families are intelligent and well off, but the way these kids act at work just blows my mind. They don’t understand that this first job will actually teach them valuable work/life experience. You can really tell who’s gonna make it and who won’t......now I sound like my parents when I say this: ”I can’t imagine what the world will be like in 50 years when these kids are running the working world....” my god. I’m gonna keep Jockos first response in mind and maybe it’ll get through to someone...I hope
1:00. When Mr. Willink states what am i not making clear that is making you still doing this reminds me of Mr Tay my former teacher for the 8am class in business college when 80% of the class didn't show up and he got in trouble with the head dean to which he was asked for the poor attendance. He came back the next morning asking how can he do better to encourage better attendance. I didnt thought much other than thinking its just the mindset my class mates (lazy) have but when i think about it( the other 8am class) the other teacher Miss Shermaine Oh, our form teacher didn't have this problem. Hence the difference that stands out is his character. Miss Oh shares personal stories not all good like the stupid stuff she did as a kid, her work life experience and trying to connect with the class on a personal level. I also notice how she always acknowledges me outside of class first all the time even when i didnt reciprocate. That level of relationship building despite holding authority reminds me of how Mr. Willink the commander at that time after the fire drill sticks around to collect brass with his mates despite having all the reasons, legitimate (excuses) of having meetings to attend to as the leader. (even they offered to let him go saying they understand) Outside of this Miss Oh conducts personal counselling for students after class 5pm when everyone is jaded and wanted to go home. She could have concluded class and just head home to her kids. But didnt. It was shown as i take a long to to gather my bag seeing at least 5 students waiting outside class each student telling their story which i knew takes at least 10 minutes to which she's just listening. I at that time was jaded and wanted to go home to nap. But for her which i didn't think much back then thinking it was part of the pay roll i was wrong. Yes i was sleep deprived but even anyone despite well slept or not just wanted to go home after that. And that level of relationship building is what Mr. Tay lacks. (But of course the leader has to balance and not get too close to the point he felts awkard maintaining his authority. Like how Patrick ben david has beer with his buddy and the next morn his buddy, the seargent is yelling at him. Better to maintain authority at first than ease into giving more leeway than the other way around.) (But then if we are all equals than what am i supposed to do? I heard from willink To be a good leader you must be a good follower.) ( So do i follow the teacher first or he meant i must listen to all my groupmates in a prject making them heard than taking the initiative to lead if none does. Just like how he takes a step back in the oil rig than shouts tactical movements since none is making the call all focus on their sights. Reminds me when he was at a practice at a desert and he was waiting for the leader to make a call when they say "enemy" and the leader didnt make one fast enough so willink shouts and everyone follows. Than afterthat he was pulled aside and the leader said non in a way offended Willink you got to lt me make the call. in that moment willink realised you cant step the the leaders toes.) ( i thought how this plays out in the business settings. Where theres no leader with rank but just one that steps up. Of course its a long story so ill just end this here edit later. But if i remembered correctly willink says to listen first but if the plan doent make sense you must take the indirect approach to question on your side of ignorance.)
50 second in and I was saying "yes" As a middle school teacher, the most I improved was when a kid was just a "giant jerk" in my library class. It was hard in the moment and I am sure I was a jerk back but I learned about some new software, got some other classroom management techniques. "If you don't want to learn, no one can help you. If you want to learn, no one can stop you" Zig Zigler
Jocko you may not be perfect but you're a great example of what leadership actually is. It's not just managing situations. It's including and inspiring others to go above and beyond to accomplish a necessary task. And so much more that you touch on in videos like this.
as a 2 year old man I've realized that my past moments where I disregarded the subordinate position of myself as a fetus was just completly disrespectful. Sincerly, thank you Jocko for correcting my mistakes by punching my moms belly when I was once inside her. Now I'm lifting 225 12 reps x 5 and make a 4k a month income job for my mom.
That last story, I mean the teacher friend. It resonates. Violence brings violence, and our obsession about physical violence makes us sometimes blind to the incredible amount of suffering that made the punches and shit happen. Y'know. Controlling can be okay, but you can't control it everyday for months. We need to teach bullies, that's part of the ownership of teachers, Jocko did say so I think but, y'know. Food for thoughts.
I appreciate the perspective. Put this to use twice this morning with my kids. The first time it helped redirect some negative behavior towards each other. The second time it helped me and my wife pause a minute when another child said something insensitive.
This is going to sound strange... I was in "Electronics Technicians' A-School" for the U.S. Navy, and we'd reached the "last chapter" of "Basic Electricity and Electronics"... "Solid State Devices". We'd also changed instructors... BUT on the final exam, 90% of the class failed... most of us didn't even get better than 40%... SO... our original instructor came back and looked over the tests, and he determined that our "new" instructor had neglected a bunch of the material, AND he arranged a two-week "crash course" to get through the stuff we hadn't covered in class before... thus admitting, "Yep, you all failed because we had failed you." ;o)
@@flyingdutchman2996 Yeah, good luck... The CO is the "Commanding Officer", not the "Instructor"... which in the case of the "class that failed" was a civilian contractor, who stepped in to replace our original, an ET5... But nice try to test me. You have no year(s)... or you could look up where the A-school was, give or take the approximate dates when they stopped calling anything an "A-school" and went with "Tech' Corps" and then separated students into varying schools from there by their "Rates" (Navy-ese for "Means Of Service" or "M.O.S.")... BUT you'd likely only narrow down to two or three possibilities, as officers move around the services almost as often as the Enlisted... ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 Unfortunately, as a former ET1, I can't let this go. There is no such thing as an ET5. Yes, civilian instructors taught Tech Core, and did a great job. Several electronic based rates were in Tech Core together, and then we split into our specific rate related material after, which is taught by very well trained military instructors. I would venture to say that not only were you never in ET A school, I'd guess you were never in the US Navy, or the military at all, since you had no idea what MOS actually stands for.
@@JonesMediaMan Uh... so they just arbitrarily did away with E-5 enlisted and above ranks... right? Is that REALLY what you want to assert??? Yes, there were a bunch of civilian contractors who did a great job at teaching in ET A-school, back when it was still A-school. A few in rare occasions screwed up... AND I happened to be there for one of the screw ups... not the only once in a century kind of thing to happen... BUT if you can't understand that Rank/Rate works all the way from E-1 (recruit) to E-9 (Master Chief) then I can only assume YOU have NEVER IN HELL gotten through so much as boot camp nor read even a single guide on rates, ranks, or MOS in the United States Military... You, sir, are flamboyantly showing off your idiot. ;o) {edit... in case you ain't figured it out yet, "ET5" is an insulting form of saying "ET rank E-5" rather than the usual "ET2" which would be my ordinary terminology... while both would technically be correct, the "ET5" indicates the bitterness I carry for having been f'ed over in school... so 'F' you and everyone else stupid enough to think the gov't training is good enough to compensate an electronic degree... um... much of anywhere. ;o) }
The "clear path" was the most difficult thing to find but the most important asset I gained . Large portion of that was discovered in my service. The rest was discover with me creating my own paths that 1- allow for survival 2- won't get me thrown in jail 3- will be productive for the people around me
Yes they are. Thanks for sharing about wishing you had better leadership when you were younger. I've head similar thoughts which clearly are counterproductive. I look at it now like thank God I didn't have harsh discipline imposed on me because I had way more room for growth. Disadvantages can be an advantage with the right prospective. Mindset Matters
I used to get asked the same questions (in the first few minutes of this video) as a kid by teachers and I never gave them a clear answer. And that's because I had no self worth. I didn't think I was worth answering that question. I knew they cared about me, which is why they were asking, but I didn't care about ME.
I am 32 now. I remember back in HS I almost got into a fight at the cafeteria, we threw food at each other and were about to throw hands but got stoped. They suspended me for 2 days and I thought it was really stupid way of solving the issue. I was a good kid standing up to a bully, I snuck into school in order to ask my teachers what the homework was going to be and I recalled them taking a breath of air as I explained what happened. How will screwing up my education is going to make me better? They should have made us do community service or something that would had made us pay for what we did.
It's too late. They get their validation, values, upbringing and education through twitter. Blocking, burning, outrage, virtue signalling, bullying are the new values - and that transcends political and social segments.
I would love an option which allowed to select whether to only hear Jocko or hear both him and Echo. I think both of them have their approach and Echo’s perspective may help some people. I just find myself skipping through much of what he says.
Selfishness= ACTIONS- choosing to only look out for my own interests INACTIONS- Choosing not to do anything about the sufferings of others. The choices I make do have an impact on my future. Rightfully saying that the choices other people in my community make can equally impact my life. If my wife spends the income I worked for, on bags and makeup, this is going to impact us. If I choose not to work this is going to impact us. If a lady is being assaulted in an alley as I am walking by I can choose action on her behalf, or inaction on my behalf. Selflessness vs. Selfishness
I wish I took high school more serious I always skipped class or if I did go I was clowning around and not doing any work now I’m lost trying to get my life together and I have a son on tho way which I don’t regret it’s a blessing to be a father but I want to make sure he is straight In life and have everything he need to be a better man than I am
I can tell you as a parent with 12 plus years of dealing with teachers, not a single one has ever taken extreme ownership in my personal experience, Or ANY kind of ownership for that matter
I had a chemistry teacher do this to me when I was being disruptive in a summer course during a lecture. He was a football coach. I felt ashamed immediately. Got an A in that class.
Would love to see Jocko try to reason with a class full of kids from Chicago or Detroit or Baltimore or something. You wanna see something that'll make someone like even Jocko give up? That'd be it right there.
IAC. Si eye ay! You inspire me to be a better me. Thank you for everything you’ve done for this country and everything you continue to do. 1 day ago 28 7
As a former middle school teacher saying to a disruptive student in my class, telling that student, where did i not communicate w/ you to not do this behavior from you? A answer from kid might be, I don't care. Now what? My point is this behavior has stopped your teaching to the entire class. If you the teacher
What I have seen, unfortunately, are that alot of times the teacher's hands are tied. Discipline isn't allowed and/or the parents complain that poor Suzie or Joey shouldn't be disciplined, and/ or the principal won't back up the teacher. I am not a teacher. This is just what I've seen.
it's complicated, because you need the right teacher with the correct interests in common to make that initial connection, otherwise you're seen as another enemy
Jocko would be the best person in my eyes and ears to do a break down on the history of the United States Navy Seal Trident all of them including pre 1970 I looked up the history of it but it would be much better coming from him
Echo, same experience with my nice Grade 7 music teacher, who failed to read the room with my problem classmates, whom had no interest in music. Short version, he was away one day, and the sub did not show. Those same kids acted up, and trashed the music room, including destroying the teacher's treasured jazz records that he adorned the room. He came back the next day, and suffered a mental breakdown, and left the school after. Needless to say, kids are nasty.
Damn that really, really hurts my heart. Reminds me how bad I and other children were. I never destroyed a teachers stuff, but I've said cruel things and seen kids do cruel stuff. My parents weren't even aware. Nor did anyone teach us that these teachers are people that feel and hurt.
I always had a good work ethic. I never post or read my comments to early because I’m not in the mood when I first get up. to many annoyingly stupid people. it’s funnier later in the day.
Whoever doesn’t get caught shooting spitballs yet hits their targets with 96% accuracy... go on to become special ops spitwad snipers. (Whoever missed the spacemom wall portrait that one podcast day with the Williams definitely did not meet target requirements, but I bet can sing the hell outta kumbaya ;)
Many times their parents had failed them so they never had the tools themselves. Their incompetence is then passed on to their kids and so on until someone finds the tools and break the cycle.
What about psycho teachers beating up a student ! The student gets kicked out of school, when the causation was the teacher abusing the student in front of others The teachers was not liked by any of his students
What happened ti defending our country against all enemies, foreign and domestic? These people are domestic enemies that have declared war. Where's the military to neutralize the threat?
I'm not saying I'm special or anything but if you're over 18-20 years old and you don't understand your actions have consequences and poor decision making puts you in poor situations you need some help.
It's more so applying it than just understanding it. A lot of ppl think "it couldn't happen to me" like drugs for example, so many people think they could manage it or that they have "the will power" to not ever end up there but that's not how it works.
"BUT we'll do it the right way THIS time." ...the dying motto of the youthful generation on a host of social, political, and cultural problematic ideologies. ;o)
EXTREME OWNERSHIP , all of the weakness and failure in the word is your fault. You don't rise to the level of your goals, the main source of your failure is your SKILLS. LIFE IS A VIDEO GAMES, yes you can get lucky 1% of the time, but most of it is smart investment, strategic thinking, Mastery over skillset. Fuck emotional intelligence, most people are NPC ANYWAYS, WE HAVE AN EPICDEMIC OF PETER PAN OUT HERE, IT'S ALL ABOUT SKILLS BABY !
Also whatever classsroom ended up with tossable, whackable, functioning paper maché anything~ did not have a balanced glue eater to athlete student ratio going on. Wish I’d a had that type of segregation when I was in school, imagine how much glue me and brittney could have put away, the numbers on horses with broken legs and gunshot wounds would have gone through the roof!
Echo is wrong in this one. Teenagers (generally speaking) absolutely ARE capable of understanding the ramifications of their actions and how that will affect their life 10, 20 years from now. The reason they don't is because nobody is explaining it in a way that will connect and nobody is holding them to the expectation of understanding it. As soon as they walk out of that school, though, the real world doesn't care if their brains are fully developed or if they understand the consequences of their actions. The police don't care. The judges don't care. The prison system doesn't care. I know this first hand. I've BEEN through the system and learned the hard way that the 'system' and the real world don't care. These kids are 100% capable of understanding. Maybe not quite in the same way a 35 or 40 year old will understand, but they CAN understand in their own way. Saying "their brains aren't developed enough to understand" is a bullshit excuse and is a large part of why so many kids, teens and young adults end up in juvenile detention or county jail or state prison.
I screwed up bad in high school. I'd get suspended and go work in the lumber yard (rewarding my self with pay). Im a concrete carpenter and hydrovac operator now. I'm one of the only guys who reads books and understands extreme ownership (thanks to Jocko) on the crews BUT its incredibly frustrating at times (everyones hung over & dabbling with drugs). I'm currently reading a book by Christina hoff Sommers - "the war against boys". She just mentioned that being suspended ONCE reduces our chances of graduating high school by 17%. FML. I wish I had better leadership back then. BUT, I get up at 4am and get on the pull up bar. I just had a long walk with my working dog in the rain (GOOD.) so she can get after it early too and feel relaxed today. Discipline = Freedom. Im getting after it and have a plan. ...Also, just gifted the way of the warrior kid to my single mom friend and her young son LOVES it -"read me one more chapter" x4 :) She messaged me last night that she just ordered #2 & 3. THANKS JOCKO & ECHO! you guys are changing the world.
Your comment makes me happy
Hell yea! Keep at it!
Praise Allah!
@@DavySigfusson Allah is the god of Muhammad, a pedophile and murderer
What a beast
As a 17 year old male. Thank you for all the wisdom and knowledge you've shared, it has helped me greatly to better improve myself
Hopefully I'll be able to work hard and make a better future
I just started a channel where I take trucks into the mountains and wreck em. Hoping to make a few folks laugh.
@@bushtruck awesome, I'll check it out
Not hopefully - ABSOLUTELY. Edge out the competition, someones gonna do it. Make that someone YOU brother.
@@jaydoe5654 Hell yeah, WILL DO
@@bushtruck that sounds fun actually.
You inspire me to be a better me.
Thank you for everything you’ve done for this country and everything you continue to do.
Hey how's it going
pretty good
Jocko has helped me finally grow psychologically. His message has helped me stop making excuses and get on the path
@@raidthanfl magical, right?
@@raidthanfl hows it going raidthankl can you check out my RUclips channel thanks god bless you
My parents routinely make fun of me for not knowing the things they didn't bother to teach me.
For example my mother always thinks that I don't have any technical skills in terms of construction work. When I was young she always told me this. When I wanted to help, she told me "don't bother, you are bad at this". So I only did construction things away from house. When I'm helping others they are grateful it's fun to do. But when I'm at home, I will only get negativity towards me when I'm helping. I get told "you're doing it wrong", so I ask "can you show me how then?". Then I get told to get out. Not even allowed to watch and learn. Just so that they can make fun of me later on.
I don't mind. It taught me that I shouldn't help my parents because they don't want help from me. Got enough things to learn and do for my own life anyway.
Very similar story here my man! Keep pushing forward and don't let them get you down too much! 🤔🤜🤛
thank God mine didn’t. kids at school tried that but all it did was annoy me and make me mad at them ...not me.
When you succeed guarantee they will ask you to do free work for them Don’t
@@illwill1090 If they will do that then I'll say that I will only help if we do it together.
I’m sorry bud, focus on yourself. Maybe find a mentor who can teach you stuff you want to learn other than your parents.
to add to what Jocko said ~ while in college, my father expressed and i understood: you can enjoy booze, drugs, women, now..... - the easy fun - or you can focus on this degree - and the kind of fun you will have later in life. I know you dont see it now, but it will by far exceed those simple pleasures. hard concept to grasp in a young moment - but the reality is that - put in the work, and the payout later is boat houses and boats - not a day on a boat with someone you will never know again. Not a puff one night. not a hammered night. A life of choosing when your pleasure comes. And some if not most of that you will find is a job well done.
When Jocko attended class, the teacher left
He took extreme ownership of the class lol
Challenging youths to use critical thinking , forcing them to attempt to understand and analyze all the decisions they make (and the impact of those decisions), is a big contributor to building confidence in themselves. Which, in my opinion, gives them the strength to start taking ownership and leading a powerful and meaningful life. Thank you for sharing your passion, and explaining the power of responsible leadership the way you know how. This is one of the most important things a community, company, classroom, team, etc. can have, responsible leadership that knows how to take ownership, good or bad.
This is next level "I'm not mad. I'm disappointed." Except it's "I'm not mad. I'm disappointed in my own ability to convey just how important this is to your life. Please teach me where I went wrong." It's also you vs I statements.
Jocko's videos always seem to pop up when you need that specific lesson the most. As a high school teacher myself, i struggle trying to convey this kind of message to my students also. It's sad to me that covid has ruined now the end and start of 2 school years. There was no closure to the first and there is no real "beginning" with this coming year. Regardless, im going to take the message of showing that ownership in both myself and to my students. That's the only way they will succeed and at the end of the day, that's all i want as a teacher, to see these students go on and achieve great things. Thank you Jocko and Echo!
As a teacher for 25 years this was very good advice.
agreed, may share it with others
Jocko has helped me finally grow psychologically. His message has helped me stop making excuses and get on the path
This is really great, incredibly useful as a parent. I've tried to apply this myself, explaining to my son about my responsibility in raising him
Jocko looks like a movie Navy Seal. He is the poster boy for the Seals. He should be in a Video Game, I would play it.
im sorry but we dont need another video game with a character that is so op that you can never lose
play doom.
Guile
Jocko got the cartoony gears of war neck
@@wrongwayup8217 yoo
Perspective and the approach of parenting is the foundation of ownership and which goes further and we get extreme ownership...
Responsibility is a lost art.
Here's where I come whenever looking for wisdom, and it always pays off
When I'm going through something I always try and come watch some Jocko videos. Always helps.
@@c9hr0ni4c great strat!
Yeah it's also very calming in this oft crazy world. Can't put a price on that 😊
since many have stated their appreciation for your words here, i thought i might join in.
i headed towards becoming that homeless person 2 years ago. i hit rock bottom back then. and jordan peterson helped me get back up on my feet and adjust my attitude towards myself without lying to myself. and then i saw your podcast with him, and since then i followed you as well. and you help me to adjust myself towards the surrounding, helping me to lead myself and others.
i just started my education as an it guy which i decided to start a year ago. thanks to you and jp, i am more honest to myself and better off as ever before. thanks.
Wow this is so helpful for me to apply at work!!!! I’m a closing manager and have been having a hard time wrapping my head around these young kids #1 not showing up, not calling in, walking off on the job because they had a spur the moment “religious service”, and taking their breaks per their social life schedule #2 having no initiative or interest to actually work, stay busy or ask, “what’s next?” #3 not even showing up on their first day The behavior of these kids should fall back on the parents and I cannot believe that these parents would actually allow their kids to behave like this....what kind of parenting have they actually done? They absolutely don’t care to work or do a good job. Go figure, I’m in an affluent Bay Area suburb and most families are intelligent and well off, but the way these kids act at work just blows my mind. They don’t understand that this first job will actually teach them valuable work/life experience. You can really tell who’s gonna make it and who won’t......now I sound like my parents when I say this: ”I can’t imagine what the world will be like in 50 years when these kids are running the working world....” my god. I’m gonna keep Jockos first response in mind and maybe it’ll get through to someone...I hope
1:00. When Mr. Willink states what am i not making clear that is making you still doing this reminds me of Mr Tay my former teacher for the 8am class in business college when 80% of the class didn't show up and he got in trouble with the head dean to which he was asked for the poor attendance.
He came back the next morning asking how can he do better to encourage better attendance. I didnt thought much other than thinking its just the mindset my class mates (lazy) have but when i think about it( the other 8am class) the other teacher Miss Shermaine Oh, our form teacher didn't have this problem.
Hence the difference that stands out is his character. Miss Oh shares personal stories not all good like the stupid stuff she did as a kid, her work life experience and trying to connect with the class on a personal level.
I also notice how she always acknowledges me outside of class first all the time even when i didnt reciprocate. That level of relationship building despite holding authority reminds me of how Mr. Willink the commander at that time after the fire drill sticks around to collect brass with his mates despite having all the reasons, legitimate (excuses) of having meetings to attend to as the leader. (even they offered to let him go saying they understand)
Outside of this Miss Oh conducts personal counselling for students after class 5pm when everyone is jaded and wanted to go home. She could have concluded class and just head home to her kids. But didnt. It was shown as i take a long to to gather my bag seeing at least 5 students waiting outside class each student telling their story which i knew takes at least 10 minutes to which she's just listening.
I at that time was jaded and wanted to go home to nap. But for her which i didn't think much back then thinking it was part of the pay roll i was wrong. Yes i was sleep deprived but even anyone despite well slept or not just wanted to go home after that.
And that level of relationship building is what Mr. Tay lacks.
(But of course the leader has to balance and not get too close to the point he felts awkard maintaining his authority. Like how Patrick ben david has beer with his buddy and the next morn his buddy, the seargent is yelling at him.
Better to maintain authority at first than ease into giving more leeway than the other way around.)
(But then if we are all equals than what am i supposed to do? I heard from willink To be a good leader you must be a good follower.) ( So do i follow the teacher first or he meant i must listen to all my groupmates in a prject making them heard than taking the initiative to lead if none does. Just like how he takes a step back in the oil rig than shouts tactical movements since none is making the call all focus on their sights. Reminds me when he was at a practice at a desert and he was waiting for the leader to make a call when they say "enemy" and the leader didnt make one fast enough so willink shouts and everyone follows. Than afterthat he was pulled aside and the leader said non in a way offended Willink you got to lt me make the call. in that moment willink realised you cant step the the leaders toes.)
( i thought how this plays out in the business settings. Where theres no leader with rank but just one that steps up. Of course its a long story so ill just end this here edit later. But if i remembered correctly willink says to listen first but if the plan doent make sense you must take the indirect approach to question on your side of ignorance.)
50 second in and I was saying "yes" As a middle school teacher, the most I improved was when a kid was just a "giant jerk" in my library class. It was hard in the moment and I am sure I was a jerk back but I learned about some new software, got some other classroom management techniques. "If you don't want to learn, no one can help you. If you want to learn, no one can stop you" Zig Zigler
Jocko gets up at 4 am.
The sun feels bad about himself.
Jocko you may not be perfect but you're a great example of what leadership actually is. It's not just managing situations. It's including and inspiring others to go above and beyond to accomplish a necessary task. And so much more that you touch on in videos like this.
Jocko For President
We need you right now Sir. Your wisdom and you ability to bring us together.
as a 2 year old man I've realized that my past moments where I disregarded the subordinate position of myself as a fetus was just completly disrespectful. Sincerly, thank you Jocko for correcting my mistakes by punching my moms belly when I was once inside her. Now I'm lifting 225 12 reps x 5 and make a 4k a month income job for my mom.
A 2 year old man lifting 225 lbs.
That is a very strong baby.
I couldn’t lift much more than 1-2kg as a baby.
Thanks guys ! As a father of a 3 year old daughter & 2 year old son, I appreciate this advice & life lessons..enjoy your day!
That last story, I mean the teacher friend. It resonates. Violence brings violence, and our obsession about physical violence makes us sometimes blind to the incredible amount of suffering that made the punches and shit happen. Y'know.
Controlling can be okay, but you can't control it everyday for months. We need to teach bullies, that's part of the ownership of teachers, Jocko did say so I think but, y'know. Food for thoughts.
I appreciate the perspective. Put this to use twice this morning with my kids. The first time it helped redirect some negative behavior towards each other. The second time it helped me and my wife pause a minute when another child said something insensitive.
Later that day: Hi mum I got an F in school today and it's the teachers fault, he said it him self to the whole class.
This is going to sound strange...
I was in "Electronics Technicians' A-School" for the U.S. Navy, and we'd reached the "last chapter" of "Basic Electricity and Electronics"... "Solid State Devices". We'd also changed instructors... BUT on the final exam, 90% of the class failed... most of us didn't even get better than 40%...
SO... our original instructor came back and looked over the tests, and he determined that our "new" instructor had neglected a bunch of the material, AND he arranged a two-week "crash course" to get through the stuff we hadn't covered in class before... thus admitting, "Yep, you all failed because we had failed you." ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 I'm going to look up your CO based off the information given. Thanks man
@@flyingdutchman2996 Yeah, good luck...
The CO is the "Commanding Officer", not the "Instructor"... which in the case of the "class that failed" was a civilian contractor, who stepped in to replace our original, an ET5... But nice try to test me.
You have no year(s)... or you could look up where the A-school was, give or take the approximate dates when they stopped calling anything an "A-school" and went with "Tech' Corps" and then separated students into varying schools from there by their "Rates" (Navy-ese for "Means Of Service" or "M.O.S.")... BUT you'd likely only narrow down to two or three possibilities, as officers move around the services almost as often as the Enlisted... ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 Unfortunately, as a former ET1, I can't let this go. There is no such thing as an ET5. Yes, civilian instructors taught Tech Core, and did a great job. Several electronic based rates were in Tech Core together, and then we split into our specific rate related material after, which is taught by very well trained military instructors. I would venture to say that not only were you never in ET A school, I'd guess you were never in the US Navy, or the military at all, since you had no idea what MOS actually stands for.
@@JonesMediaMan Uh... so they just arbitrarily did away with E-5 enlisted and above ranks... right? Is that REALLY what you want to assert???
Yes, there were a bunch of civilian contractors who did a great job at teaching in ET A-school, back when it was still A-school. A few in rare occasions screwed up... AND I happened to be there for one of the screw ups... not the only once in a century kind of thing to happen...
BUT if you can't understand that Rank/Rate works all the way from E-1 (recruit) to E-9 (Master Chief) then I can only assume YOU have NEVER IN HELL gotten through so much as boot camp nor read even a single guide on rates, ranks, or MOS in the United States Military...
You, sir, are flamboyantly showing off your idiot. ;o)
{edit... in case you ain't figured it out yet, "ET5" is an insulting form of saying "ET rank E-5" rather than the usual "ET2" which would be my ordinary terminology... while both would technically be correct, the "ET5" indicates the bitterness I carry for having been f'ed over in school... so 'F' you and everyone else stupid enough to think the gov't training is good enough to compensate an electronic degree... um... much of anywhere. ;o) }
The "clear path" was the most difficult thing to find but the most important asset I gained . Large portion of that was discovered in my service. The rest was discover with me creating my own paths that 1- allow for survival
2- won't get me thrown in jail
3- will be productive for the people around me
Middle school music teachers were the easiest to get under their skin. Echo speaking facts!
Every parents and teachers need to hear this..
@jockowillink Im loving the perspectives here. There is great value here for fathers and men alike. Keep it up man and thank you.
Best advice ever, the choices you make, make a big difference
Yes they are. Thanks for sharing about wishing you had better leadership when you were younger. I've head similar thoughts which clearly are counterproductive. I look at it now like thank God I didn't have harsh discipline imposed on me because I had way more room for growth. Disadvantages can be an advantage with the right prospective. Mindset Matters
I used to get asked the same questions (in the first few minutes of this video) as a kid by teachers and I never gave them a clear answer.
And that's because I had no self worth. I didn't think I was worth answering that question. I knew they cared about me, which is why they were asking, but I didn't care about ME.
I am 32 now. I remember back in HS I almost got into a fight at the cafeteria, we threw food at each other and were about to throw hands but got stoped. They suspended me for 2 days and I thought it was really stupid way of solving the issue. I was a good kid standing up to a bully, I snuck into school in order to ask my teachers what the homework was going to be and I recalled them taking a breath of air as I explained what happened. How will screwing up my education is going to make me better? They should have made us do community service or something that would had made us pay for what we did.
The 18-23 year olds that are currently rioting need some serious guidance.
I would love to guide some 18-23 yr olds. Guide them real good. Meow.
It's too late. They get their validation, values, upbringing and education through twitter. Blocking, burning, outrage, virtue signalling, bullying are the new values - and that transcends political and social segments.
@@nouveauprofil Amen ... sad and scary.
They are actually just following the leadership they see in our government and society at large.
@@cxa011500 Correct. Leadership... or lack thereof...
you inspired me to start my new audiobooks channel. I am a big fan a follower. forever grateful.
I would love an option which allowed to select whether to only hear Jocko or hear both him and Echo. I think both of them have their approach and Echo’s perspective may help some people. I just find myself skipping through much of what he says.
Your actions affect you in future, so pay attention to what you do now
Selfishness= ACTIONS- choosing to only look out for my own interests
INACTIONS- Choosing not to do anything about the sufferings of others.
The choices I make do have an impact on my future. Rightfully saying that the choices other people in my community make can equally impact my life.
If my wife spends the income I worked for, on bags and makeup, this is going to impact us. If I choose not to work this is going to impact us.
If a lady is being assaulted in an alley as I am walking by I can choose action on her behalf, or inaction on my behalf.
Selflessness vs. Selfishness
Totally agree. Military also showed me the path to success. Great video.
I wish I took high school more serious I always skipped class or if I did go I was clowning around and not doing any work now I’m lost trying to get my life together and I have a son on tho way which I don’t regret it’s a blessing to be a father but I want to make sure he is straight In life and have everything he need to be a better man than I am
Honestly, Jocko a real life Chuck Norris.
And that kid will never know a bad ass like jocko saved his ass. Jocko is awesome
I can tell you as a parent with 12 plus years of dealing with teachers, not a single one has ever taken extreme ownership in my personal experience, Or ANY kind of ownership for that matter
I had a chemistry teacher do this to me when I was being disruptive in a summer course during a lecture. He was a football coach. I felt ashamed immediately. Got an A in that class.
When the sun rises, it asks for Jocko's permission first
A principal knows that’s what is going to happen, the weight on their shoulders to motivate and manage a captive audience is immense.
This kind of issue is the tip of the tip of the iceberg in terms of the issues they’re navigating.
Would love to see Jocko try to reason with a class full of kids from Chicago or Detroit or Baltimore or something. You wanna see something that'll make someone like even Jocko give up? That'd be it right there.
I definitely agree. I take what they say with a grain of salt till I see them make positive change in really rough schools.
So much good in here. My favorite part though: echo charles, "crackin' but factin." Definitely part of my daily jargon.
That first answer was legit!
IAC. Si eye ay!
You inspire me to be a better me.
Thank you for everything you’ve done for this country and everything you continue to do.
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As a former middle school teacher saying to a disruptive student in my class, telling that student, where did i not communicate w/ you to not do this behavior from you? A answer from kid might be, I don't care. Now what? My point is this behavior has stopped your teaching to the entire class. If you the teacher
What I have seen, unfortunately, are that alot of times the teacher's hands are tied. Discipline isn't allowed and/or the parents complain that poor Suzie or Joey shouldn't be disciplined, and/ or the principal won't back up the teacher. I am not a teacher. This is just what I've seen.
Echo with the teacher cliche at the end killed me "giving him apples and what not" 😂 24:44
We definitely have fight against cognitive dissonance in our kids.
"Consistent and rigid, like a ninja or something". (Echo's grade school teacher)
These are incredibly helpful. Such a blessing, you alls ability to convey these message in inspiring yet relatable ways is a blessing.
Any teachers watching, I only respected one teacher ever my whole school career, because they found a way to approach me like this
it's complicated, because you need the right teacher with the correct interests in common to make that initial connection, otherwise you're seen as another enemy
This was really powerful for me
On the day jocko was born he delivered the doctor
Situations were blame could go either way: say sorry and seek compassionate mutual understanding. imo
Wish i had teacher like jocko
So much wisdom.
Jocko would be the best person in my eyes and ears to do a break down on the history of the United States Navy Seal Trident all of them including pre 1970 I looked up the history of it but it would be much better coming from him
Echo, same experience with my nice Grade 7 music teacher, who failed to read the room with my problem classmates, whom had no interest in music. Short version, he was away one day, and the sub did not show. Those same kids acted up, and trashed the music room, including destroying the teacher's treasured jazz records that he adorned the room. He came back the next day, and suffered a mental breakdown, and left the school after. Needless to say, kids are nasty.
Damn that really, really hurts my heart. Reminds me how bad I and other children were. I never destroyed a teachers stuff, but I've said cruel things and seen kids do cruel stuff. My parents weren't even aware. Nor did anyone teach us that these teachers are people that feel and hurt.
Thank you.
Thank you for that guys
Jocko is a real life CoD character
Hoboners carry bindles. The picnic blanket tied to a Walking stick with their stuff wrapped up inside.. is called a bindle.
He taught me not to awkwardly reach for the remote control.
Great video - helpful for me!
My parents did the same thing but with a belt and not as much taking ownership.
Mr Tokita was scaffolding his students well. Zone of Proximal Development (ZPD) by Lev Vygotsky.
I always had a good work ethic. I never post or read my comments to early because I’m not in the mood when I first get up. to many annoyingly stupid people. it’s funnier later in the day.
I'm a teacher and was thinking of sending in the same questions haha
Train, evaluate, then supervise
this is excellent
What's the procedure to email Jocko direct?
Hwy strength hope you are doing well
You got to fight a grizzly wearing deer meat boxers.
@@RaphaelBrooklyn718 Im good thanks just need some direction in some matter
@@davidhansen874 ha ha good one, can except Juitsuit
You can send him a message on facebook. I know a lot of people send questions there.
When Jocko's voice hits your ear drums
Whoever doesn’t get caught shooting spitballs yet hits their targets with 96% accuracy... go on to become special ops spitwad snipers. (Whoever missed the spacemom wall portrait that one podcast day with the Williams definitely did not meet target requirements, but I bet can sing the hell outta kumbaya ;)
dont denegrate a great song by associating it with hippies
People turn to stuff because they don't know how to handle/ cope with life. Why don't parents ever incorporate that into thier rearing of children 🤷🤷🤷
Many times their parents had failed them so they never had the tools themselves. Their incompetence is then passed on to their kids and so on until someone finds the tools and break the cycle.
Good quality content
What about psycho teachers beating up a student ! The student gets kicked out of school, when the causation was the teacher abusing the student in front of others
The teachers was not liked by any of his students
Jocko I think you're also underspeaking the massive impact of human trafficking on homelessness and drug addiction.
How do I submit a question to the Jocko Podcast?
sippin on pom white tea
#backintheday
What happened ti defending our country against all enemies, foreign and domestic? These people are domestic enemies that have declared war. Where's the military to neutralize the threat?
well then they’ll turn their guns on the president. quit crying like a scared little b$$$$ ( RUclips deletes my posts when I cuss) .
I'm not saying I'm special or anything but if you're over 18-20 years old and you don't understand your actions have consequences and poor decision making puts you in poor situations you need some help.
It's more so applying it than just understanding it. A lot of ppl think "it couldn't happen to me" like drugs for example, so many people think they could manage it or that they have "the will power" to not ever end up there but that's not how it works.
"BUT we'll do it the right way THIS time."
...the dying motto of the youthful generation on a host of social, political, and cultural problematic ideologies. ;o)
Nice 👍
Sadly that hum noise is distracting
EXTREME OWNERSHIP , all of the weakness and failure in the word is your fault. You don't rise to the level of your goals, the main source of your failure is your SKILLS. LIFE IS A VIDEO GAMES, yes you can get lucky 1% of the time, but most of it is smart investment, strategic thinking, Mastery over skillset. Fuck emotional intelligence, most people are NPC ANYWAYS, WE HAVE AN EPICDEMIC OF PETER PAN OUT HERE, IT'S ALL ABOUT SKILLS BABY !
On the seventh day God created Jocko
TERRIFY THEM lol
The 2018 New Jersey off duty DUI Public Servant did He employ Extreme Ownership. ...?
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Also whatever classsroom ended up with tossable, whackable, functioning paper maché anything~ did not have a balanced glue eater to athlete student ratio going on. Wish I’d a had that type of segregation when I was in school, imagine how much glue me and brittney could have put away, the numbers on horses with broken legs and gunshot wounds would have gone through the roof!
‘Glue-eater to athlete student ratio’ that’s gotta be the single best sentence I’ve heard all day
Echo is wrong in this one.
Teenagers (generally speaking) absolutely ARE capable of understanding the ramifications of their actions and how that will affect their life 10, 20 years from now.
The reason they don't is because nobody is explaining it in a way that will connect and nobody is holding them to the expectation of understanding it.
As soon as they walk out of that school, though, the real world doesn't care if their brains are fully developed or if they understand the consequences of their actions. The police don't care. The judges don't care. The prison system doesn't care.
I know this first hand. I've BEEN through the system and learned the hard way that the 'system' and the real world don't care.
These kids are 100% capable of understanding. Maybe not quite in the same way a 35 or 40 year old will understand, but they CAN understand in their own way.
Saying "their brains aren't developed enough to understand" is a bullshit excuse and is a large part of why so many kids, teens and young adults end up in juvenile detention or county jail or state prison.
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