The Mystery of the Jade Discs | National Geographic
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- Jade bi (discs), from China, that resemble modern-day CD's or donuts, and date to the late Neolithic Period, Liangzhu culture (ca. 3300-2250 BC) remain a mystery. Researchers at the Smithsonian's Freer and Sackler galleries in Washington, D.C., are among those who have studied the bi.
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They said that these people didn't have the tools to make them. Couldn't it be possible that the tools they used were destroyed, recycled or simply rusted away after thousands of years?
But not the disc?
Im just back from China and have been visiting on of their jadeite factories and have seen there similarly shaped examples of hard jadeite. According to their tradition jadeite is smth representing stability and solvency of family/dynasty. And also in the museum of the Ming dynasty one can find similar staff. It is very strange that nobody seen it or at least asked on Chinese side.
so it was a form of recorded currency? like todays bonds, but representing something more esoteric?
I went to this museum last year. They're absolutely beautiful, I'm glad this video gave me a more in depth perspective on them.
According to "The Most Venerable Book", the Jade discs were used by the Ancient Chinese Kings to make requests to the Oracles. There were usually three discs to represent the three ancient ancestor kings.
yes, first disc for barley, second disc for wheat and third one whith a bumps is for nuts and salt. da three kings of neolith!
My theory is that the Ancients used these as a hard drive of sorts to store information. The Ancients seem to have had a vastly different yet incredible understanding of natural power and the gifts of Nature. Thanks for this video! 🐄
I believe they are psionic recordings of some type. Crystal, Mineral, Stone, and Bone carry memory and a type of "consciousness". (as you know, people "talk" to trees, rocks, streams, hills, animals, etc). The ancients had these psychic capacities, they were "normal" to the human race at the time. Our race now is tremendously limited in ways, although these potentials exist. But I haven't watched the video, so I don't know what has been presented. Look at how people are fascinated by these relics, it would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.
Ah, my ancestors came from the Liangzhu culture including Dawenkou and Daxi cultures. I love it. thank you for sharing.
I especially love the mutton fat jade. I have been most fortunate to see many bì 璧 in several museums from Nanjing to Hangzhou. Only next to the cóng 琮 and the delicate dragon pieces (some circling a bì), the bì are my favorite because of their great antiquity.
我爱杭州！
So much still to learn...
This is not the real story of the drops stones 🤷🏽♂️
"Dropa stones"
"to drill a hole" "mechanical device"
"Because there's no tools in the Neolithic period"
Which is it.
One is theory, the other one is no equipment found. Logical, ppl 😓
Funny how they stole those and call them jade discs when they are dropa stones from china
They're idiots.
Or maybe our history is wrong.
The word "drill" is used to explain as a technique. They were not referring to a mechanical device.
in the ancient, small Bi discs were found placed in the mouths of some mummies. Bi coins are found in tombs as afterlife items. I myself still puzzle as to why Bi discs are worn on clothes and are used as currency. lol
im from Liangzhu ，so proud
Basically jade discs are a mystery. Thanks for making a whole video to tell us that.
I believe they are psionic recordings of some type. Crystal, Rock, and Stone carry memory and a type of "consciousness". (as you know, people "talk" to trees, rocks, streams, hills, animals, etc). The ancients had these psychic capacities, they were "normal" to the human race at the time. Our race now is tremendously limited in ways, although these potentials exist. But I haven't watched the video, so I don't know what has been presented. Look at how people are fascinated by these relics, it would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.
I'd be interested in their theories on how they go the dimples and bumps on them. Not even mentioned that over the flat ones
Bi in my language means COINS..... they were currency, but at the same time.. they're also spiritual items.
This is the problem with the mainstream archeological society.. no imagination.. and no sense, common or other wise..
Old Ja Rule CD's
2:05 THAT'S SCRATCHED FROM SAND?? WHAT???? THAT DETAIL? (I'm talking about the white one with the squiggly things on the top)
Prayer wheel depictions used for religious understanding of that era and very cool historical pieces
She never said they didn't have the tools to make them. She said mineral abrasives would have been used because they didn't have other ways of filing the jade. We know the general time frame such tools were developed, and this would have predated that.
0:26 i thought it was john malkovich narrating
Thanks
in many Asian culture, whenever someone passes away, the family members would give some form of "money" in paper form or in items for the person. they do so believing that it will help assist that person in the after life before being reborn. that probably would explain the jade being in tombs
And they used to have smth from hard jadeite, not soft which is very cheap, for health with them. Used to pass on their family relics from father to son, mother to daughter.
There is a type of iron that is much harder than usual - harder than quartz. It is presumably from asteroids - many have been found in China (some weighing more than 1,000 kilos). Tools of antler, whale or walrus ivory rarely survive, especially in acidic soils, but are known from at least the Upper Neolithic.
I bet they have unique tones, resonant frequencies. Thus the variety of sizes and thicknesses. All are jade, but manufactured differently to create a scale or set of usefule tones.
I have these in my collection
they were musical instruments.
Thanks for the beautiful sharing.
Thanks for the beautiful sharing !
never forget that the wheel was invented somwhere in mesopotania....no doubt...
Stones that have holes in them. Stop playing, we make stones with holes all the time. It's no mystery, the chinese people put holes in them for whatever reason.
These kinda resemble Iching disk. Perhaps they are the grandparents of the Iching disk and hexagrams. Maybe?
How did that shape become the symbolic currency? They are beautiful.
So making a perfect circle is the easiest shape, and easier thing to do??? Not squares, or triangles, or any shape with straight edges. Okay, so with what tools did they operate the mineral abrasives, since pretty much anything will be worn down during the process.
Typically "money" is something one can carry on person. These are much larger than something you would put in your pocket, and probably heavier than you want to carry around a stack at the market.
Compass! Simply easy.
I think its sort of like greece or w/e the white marble is the icon and then you find out...oh their pigments weathered away. Whelp guess that cool green jade is like that.
No mention of the microscopic hyroglyphs
they look like the light disks seen from the ISS (UFO)
They also look like the stones you place on top of a fermentation barrel for thing like sourkraut.... maybe they were for fermenting something. We know how ancient people prize their fermenting goods.
Grinding wheel do your “job” with passion and magic will happen on its own.
By trying to figure out, how it was made.
You've over looked the actual perpose of the thing.
It's quite simple, I could demonstrate this by using a piece of paper with two pencil lines in 2 circles.
It needs to be spinning.
Try putting it on your head then, see how you feel.
Also.
Jade ballances the energies magnetic field around our bodies.
It makes your life light, glow brighty
Thanks.
Have a great day.
Ps
Grow a plant.
Put a disk shaped magnet and put it on the soil, so that the plant will grow through the center of the mangnet.
Then watch how much bigger, the plant will grow.
They didn't use magnets on the human body.
Because we have iron in our blood.
They had neolithic machines. Those look quite modern.
"Blond mummies" are you talking about the "princes of Xiaohe"? The mummified Caucasian lady discovered in Xinjiang?
And "grown trees over Pyramids", it must be Mt. Li, it's not a pyramid (although it has a pyramid shape), it's first emperor's tomb!
Theyre just skipping stones. Skipping stones was the ultimate form of meditation back then
How so?
you're right. it does sound like malkovich.
I own Green Jade pieces and that one of the many reasons that I like China Like Chinese History ,Food,Culture and coins and paper money
I bet you were Chinese in a previous life.
Jade stands for happy marriage and long life. Different shapes different meanings. This year is the dog year and I am born in the dog year so I get a jade from my parents and my brother who is 12 years older than me gets a jade too.
I own one of these!
im not good with time periods and developing societies, but i would say if at the time there was currency, and being asian myself and knowing that asian cultures burn paper money (gold and silver painted paper) to the afterlife. i would say a good guess would be that these presented a fortune (being literally bigger and looking like chinese coins) that would pass onto the afterlife with the deceased person. an early version of burning money paper, but instead used these discs.
Interesting. I recall being in Okinawa and seeing the japanese people's placement of plates of food and flowers at the graves of their forebears. I thought it was unusual, but seemed sacred and venerable. The japanese were a special people, I liked the fact they seemed to respect women and the elderly, not like in the US.
haha exactly, wait to see the notes!!
So just to be clear, they used abrasives. How did they carve such intricate designs on them? I've yet to find a method of inscribing .5 of a mm designs with an abrasive method. Well not one that wouldn't take 1000 years to complete lol
Egyptians did also
Try LISTENING to some of them !!!
bi is actually coin in china. it can also mean currency.
I think they're the dantians...portals to the absolute
*weird hairdo*
"Aliens"
Invention of the Wheel
they were put in tombs for good luck or something like that. my family is Buddhist so i can relate, somewhat
These people are so smart but she didnt know she was trying to say a lathe 😂 some sort turntable or mechanical device, 😂 "LATHE" ha ha ha
1.All those Jade discs are from China's Liang zu culture period that is 4300 years ago. 2. they are not works of art, but works of worshipping, noble burial ritual. BTW Liangzhu relics is the oldest kingdom(3000BCE~2300BCE) so far excavated in east asia , this is recognized by UNESCO.
Some of those were Not made by hand Or primitive machine.
no tools would have been available in the Neolithic period ..... what a self limiting statement.
Its a throwing discus from the 3300 BC world olympics
How do we know they aren't musical records?
Because modern China also has similar decorations, and even from archaeology, their styles have been continuous for 8000 years. As a symbol of the sky, it is a worship of the sun. And another thing is the representation of the square.
I purchased a bunch from a friend and they were all given back to the Museum they were stolen out of the Country Jade BI Disk beaded .
Did u get paid ?
Could be amo to some historic weapon
Where do you get those jade on your hand? You Lend from museum or buy a stealing product?
Perhaps they're currency...
Currency in the afterlife!
ha cannot unsee
I thought it was the Bayan Kara Ula stones and if it's not that the explanation given just doesn't seem to make sense for such unique artifacts in those times
For me, this looks like imitations of technical devices, similar to CD's.
There are other objects, called "cong", that maybe could be compared with CD-players and CD-towers.
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The "Princess of Xiaohe" is Caucasian, and the origin of those people came from both East and West.
Also, China expanded to Central Asia for several times before 18th century, the farthest it reached is approx. today's Kirgizstan, where some people believe the birthplace of Li Po
It's a wheel !
Off a mini "WHEEL OF fortune" GAME
these are damned millstones
obviously its a plate.
"guys of ancient aliens" ?
They r car wheels from the bat-mobile
They look industrial
This people just is not as smart as ancient people,if they were living we should be ready for them to call us stupid
Jades
it is a part of something more bigger but what? mysteries mysteries ...
Di tukang besi juga ada wkawkak
Are the Liangzhu genetically Austronesian like the originalTaiwanese and Filipino and not Han Chinese
How come Filipinos doesn't have city and civilizations until Indian, Chinese and Spanish arrived?
Donuts?
If you know what the cong is for then that tells you exactly what the bi is for I have work out what the cong is and how it worked, it is one of those things that when you know it is obvious, and almost indisputable so tell me what you think the cong is for
Get trolled here often?
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They were used to throw at the Mongols invader and to impress girls.
lol, she into her work man. hahaha
sell me one for $3 and i might consider buying it..!
one word. WGAF
BOOOOORING!!
Americans...so obsess with ancient aliens or technologies theories...
Come on! They are time machine coins. I was looking them for years to run a time machine.
Nestle Geographic.
That dude had rabbit teeth...
Must be aliens. Cough.