No, I’d rather have the clip ons so this bike can live rent free in your head. Don’t know why you keep saying it looks like it has no handlebars… it looks like it has no handlebars because it doesn’t have any handlebars. 😂😂😂. Wouldn’t expect you to know the difference between clip ons and handlebars anyways.
Great explanation on the riding position. Not too committed and still easy to live with. The comparison with the rsv4 def should answer a lot of questions people have on the internet regarding these clip ons.
Yes sir! Was hoping that’d be helpful to people who are apprehensive about doing this. Basically like anything else, have to take the good with the bad. Thanks bro!
Now I can't wait to put mine in café racer position! 🤩 I bought the s2 concept clip-ons too, and now I know that the upper position of the rearsets is necessary! I might be very demanding😅but now I wanna see this beast carving canyon roads! 💪🏿✌️😎🏁
Right on. You’ll enjoy the S2 concept set up quite a bit. Glad the video was helpful to you. As far as the rear sets go, it’s not that it’s necessary. It’s just a nice option to have.
You won’t be disappointed! Easy install if you take your time and makes a big difference visually. Now when I see stock XSR’s, they always look tall and goofy. Ride safe man.
Hi, Thank you so much for the high quality of your explainations. I live near Paris, France, and I had been hesitating a lot about ordering those clip ons to S2 Concept without be able to test the new XSR 900 2023 riding position. You convinced me and I have ordered my clip ons. Now I am waiting for receiving the product, then install it thanks to your install demo video. Best regards from France !
Great to hear that! It can be difficult to decide if you should make that drastic of a change to your bike, so I totally understand. The S2 set up is great because most people can do it on their own at home. Some of the other conversions that require drilling and adjustment would be more difficult to do at home for most people. You should get your package from S2 pretty quickly. Even to the USA, we received the package in a little over a week. If you need any further assistance let me know! Thank you for the support and for the positive comment. 👊🏽
@@ridewithKY Package received and clip ons installed ! 🙂 I still have to do a final check of the assembly, the positioning of the wires, cables and hoses and the tightening of the screws and nuts. Then, I will be able to test this new position which should load the front of the bike more and make it more precise when accelerating out of corners. However, I had not noted before disassembly where exactly the large thin black metallic washer was positioned between the rubber throttle grip and its potentiometer. After installing the clip ons, there is a very slight transverse play in the handle, about one millimeter. However, I did not have this memory. Could you please confirm to me that this very thin metal ring is positioned between the rubber throttle grip and the potentiometer plastic shell.: outside this shell, simply to avoid contact between the rubber grip and the shell surface ? Thank you very much again !👍🏻 If you want, I will give you some personal feedback after a ride on our little country road. Best regards.✌🏼
Great! Glad the clip ons went on okay for you. Not bad of an install but of course a few things that need some careful attention. You’ve got the right location for that “ring”. That confused us at first too. We weren’t sure if that ring was supposed to be clocked a certain way or what. So a few things, it does not need to be clocked a certain way and the location you described to me is correct. We noticed that extra play there too, which as you’ve suspected was not there previously. I’m thinking the location of the dimples for the control unit on that right side might be just ever so slightly off and that’s why you get that little bit of play there. Either way, it hasn’t been an issue on our example XSR900. Hope that helps you out. 👊🏽. Thank you for checking back in.
@@ridewithKY Hi, And thank you for your quick answer. For your complete information, I visited a Yamaha dealer this Saturday morning. I saw by myself that the mounting of the washer is as described and new motorcycles (MT09, XSR and others) have this same slight transverse play in the accelerator handle. Let's ride now !!! 😉
@JeNeSuisPasUnNumero6 awesome! Thank you very much for the update. I’ll have to take a look myself the next time at a Yamaha dealer. Obviously it’s anecdotal but I’m almost positive there is more play now than there was before. It’s not much more but it sure seems like there is more than previous. Thanks again for your detailed explanation and so glad my video helped sway you towards the S2 Concept set up. Cheers 👊🏽
Thanks George. Like you, always found the Vitpilen riding position to be comfortable. I notice the seat and grips are close to the same plane but I think possibly because you are sitting so close to the clip-ons, it makes it quite comfortable. Always found myself able to ride the Vitpilen for long periods of time without getting fatigued. Cheers George, hope you are well. 👊🏽
This is an awesome explanation of sport bike ergonomics. You really nailed it. I don't have an XSR900 but I was just curious. These will be perfect for someone who does a lot of highway commuting
Haha exhaust and tune are in the mail as we speak. 😃. Owner has taken it out for a couple hours at a time. The riding position is really pretty comfortable still. The seat height is really what saves it. I’ve sat on naked bikes that were way less comfortable than this XSR set up. With this set up also get less wind buffering. The stock handlebars you get annihilated by the wind on the freeway.
Hey, I'm very late to this, but very quality video. If possible I would really like to see a ride on this bike with the clip ons just to see the rider perspective and thoughts while doing some fairly normal commuting. Keep up the great work!
We actually tried to do this but it was really hard to get a good visual representation while in motion. It’s not a very big difference between the stock bars and the clip-ons so capturing that difference while in motion just wasn’t that fruitful. Thanks for watching as always!
The bikes looks so much better. Have you seen the retro fairings? I’m thinking with the clip-ons and that fair the bike would be the best modern retro out there.
Thank you! I have seen the retro fairings. Kind of want to see what it looks like without the goofy seat and goofy exhaust first, then decide if fairings are necessary. I do like the modern retro look the bike gets with the fairings. Thanks man!
Interesting set-up. I'm currently weighing my options concerning the seating position of the XSR 900. My last bike was a Triumph Street Triple and I liked the sportier position on that bike a lot more. One thing you haven't talked about (in the video or the comments) is how the more committed riding position actually effects the handling/steering of the bike. Since the front is more loaded on this set-up, do you notice increased 'feeling' when entering a corner? Having said that, keep on producing XSR 900 videos and I'll keep watching 'em :).
I haven’t noticed any significant difference in the handling. Low speed maneuvers are a little different but it’s nothing of any real note. These later XSR’s are not that responsive when turning in anyways. Yamaha changed the forks on the later ones to not be as twitchy as the early gens. Thanks man hope that helps.
@@ridewithKY I just had mine couple days ago. From my experience, it's completly different bike now. Riding it just like sport bike, no more casual ride, easy to turn, comfortable. The way you control the bike and how the bike react to your input. So much weight on wrist and shoulder. Haven't try long distance yet. Anyway, still love how it looks and how it ride now.
The Vitpilen is a cool bike and in that 400CC category is basically the only bike I would even want. But it certainly has some significant flaws. This XSR is of course in a whole different class being a 900 but doesn’t have many flaws. I don’t think it captures the unique aesthetic that the Vitpilen’s do. However, the XSR’s are much better finished and thought out. Quality is much higher however to be fair the XSR is significantly more expensive.
Vitpilen is still more comfortable because the clip ons are closer to you. So even though they are clip ons, you are almost sitting straight up and down anyways.
I like the new xsr900 but never enough to buy one, I wanted the GP that won't come to the us so seeing the clip ons and hopefully someone makes the gp fairings
I know what you mean. It’s easy to like something, but much harder to like it enough to spend your money on it. Clip ons make a huge difference though. Now just need to get rid of the funky seat.
@@ridewithKY Honestly, the seat isnt funky. It just needs the cover. I purchased the Pyramid rear cowl seat cover. Wish I could post a picture here for you, but it honestly transforms the seat into a standard rear cowl type of look. I'm in So Cal, not sure where you guys are, but if your close, I'd ride mine over to show you.
Sweet man. I’ve seen that cowl before and it does make a big difference. It’s a good alternative if one wants to keep the factory seat. We are in Northern California but often visit Southern California for various reasons. Cheers, thank you for your suggestion regarding the seat cowl.
Actually didn’t end up going SC. But the exhaust we did go with is in customs right now and should be to us soon. Hopefully about another week or so we should have a video published. Of course depends on customs. I’ve had things sit in customs for a week+ before. Thanks man for watching hope the videos are helpful to you.
Fortunately we did not have to pay import taxes. I’m not sure why sometimes you have to pay and other times you don’t. I’ve ordered quite a few things from Italy over the years and I’ve got hit with taxes a few times but most of the time the part is delivered without additional fees.
I've looked at three different fairing seeting other than yamaha's because Yamaha's fairing suck, best looking is the hoobue but the clip ons are mandatory and they have their own turn lights which i don't like, moto velocity delivers a real fairing but im skeptical on the wind facing you on the head, the number 4 is by far the most unique but i really dont know about wind resistance in the head
Yeah these are real considerations and will vary from rider to rider depending on your stature. I don’t see many people talk about wind buffering when making these types of decisions, but for me I can’t stand wind buffering. Sounds like you are of a similar mindset.
I like the visual showing the new seating position and clearance to the tank. I would like to hear about your impressions on riding with the bars and how it affected handling. I just traded my GSXR I had set up for track for a ‘24 900 and love it. The height and width of the 900 bars is taking getting used to though.
@unkunk5842 I like how it handles with the clip-ons. I never liked the upright seating position, just feels goofy. If you are used to sport bikes, you’ll like the clip ons for your 900. Still comfortable because the seat is low but you aren’t sitting straight up and down like an ADV.
Wow frankenbike, must have taken you a long time to think of that one. Explains your views on clip-ons vs handlebars. No creativity or imagination, just sourness. 😂😂😂.
Aah man that looks a right 2 n 8 (state)
Should have left it alone 😒
XSR 900 is perfect as it is ,
Looks like it has no handlebars 😅😮😂😂😂
No, I’d rather have the clip ons so this bike can live rent free in your head. Don’t know why you keep saying it looks like it has no handlebars… it looks like it has no handlebars because it doesn’t have any handlebars. 😂😂😂. Wouldn’t expect you to know the difference between clip ons and handlebars anyways.
@@ridewithKY😂 take it easy man.
@gtoramirez i mean… he asked for it 😂😂😂.
@@ridewithKY
Yeah but it does look a right 2 and 8 mate 😉 👍
Great explanation on the riding position. Not too committed and still easy to live with. The comparison with the rsv4 def should answer a lot of questions people have on the internet regarding these clip ons.
Yes sir! Was hoping that’d be helpful to people who are apprehensive about doing this. Basically like anything else, have to take the good with the bad. Thanks bro!
Now I can't wait to put mine in café racer position! 🤩
I bought the s2 concept clip-ons too, and now I know that the upper position of the rearsets is necessary!
I might be very demanding😅but now I wanna see this beast carving canyon roads! 💪🏿✌️😎🏁
Right on. You’ll enjoy the S2 concept set up quite a bit. Glad the video was helpful to you.
As far as the rear sets go, it’s not that it’s necessary. It’s just a nice option to have.
Looks sick! Can’t wait to get mine
You won’t be disappointed! Easy install if you take your time and makes a big difference visually. Now when I see stock XSR’s, they always look tall and goofy. Ride safe man.
Hi,
Thank you so much for the high quality of your explainations.
I live near Paris, France, and I had been hesitating a lot about ordering those clip ons to S2 Concept without be able to test the new XSR 900 2023 riding position.
You convinced me and I have ordered my clip ons.
Now I am waiting for receiving the product, then install it thanks to your install demo video.
Best regards from France !
Great to hear that! It can be difficult to decide if you should make that drastic of a change to your bike, so I totally understand. The S2 set up is great because most people can do it on their own at home. Some of the other conversions that require drilling and adjustment would be more difficult to do at home for most people.
You should get your package from S2 pretty quickly. Even to the USA, we received the package in a little over a week. If you need any further assistance let me know!
Thank you for the support and for the positive comment. 👊🏽
@@ridewithKY
Package received and clip ons installed ! 🙂
I still have to do a final check of the assembly, the positioning of the wires, cables and hoses and the tightening of the screws and nuts. Then, I will be able to test this new position which should load the front of the bike more and make it more precise when accelerating out of corners. However, I had not noted before disassembly where exactly the large thin black metallic washer was positioned between the rubber throttle grip and its potentiometer. After installing the clip ons, there is a very slight transverse play in the handle, about one millimeter. However, I did not have this memory. Could you please confirm to me that this very thin metal ring is positioned between the rubber throttle grip and the potentiometer plastic shell.: outside this shell, simply to avoid contact between the rubber grip and the shell surface ? Thank you very much again !👍🏻
If you want, I will give you some personal feedback after a ride on our little country road.
Best regards.✌🏼
Great! Glad the clip ons went on okay for you. Not bad of an install but of course a few things that need some careful attention.
You’ve got the right location for that “ring”. That confused us at first too. We weren’t sure if that ring was supposed to be clocked a certain way or what. So a few things, it does not need to be clocked a certain way and the location you described to me is correct. We noticed that extra play there too, which as you’ve suspected was not there previously. I’m thinking the location of the dimples for the control unit on that right side might be just ever so slightly off and that’s why you get that little bit of play there. Either way, it hasn’t been an issue on our example XSR900.
Hope that helps you out. 👊🏽. Thank you for checking back in.
@@ridewithKY
Hi,
And thank you for your quick answer. For your complete information, I visited a Yamaha dealer this Saturday morning. I saw by myself that the mounting of the washer is as described and new motorcycles (MT09, XSR and others) have this same slight transverse play in the accelerator handle.
Let's ride now !!! 😉
@JeNeSuisPasUnNumero6 awesome! Thank you very much for the update. I’ll have to take a look myself the next time at a Yamaha dealer. Obviously it’s anecdotal but I’m almost positive there is more play now than there was before. It’s not much more but it sure seems like there is more than previous. Thanks again for your detailed explanation and so glad my video helped sway you towards the S2 Concept set up.
Cheers 👊🏽
Very detailed video, thank you!
Glad I can help! Thank you for watching!
The riding position of the XSR with the clip-ons is very mild, same with the Vitpilen. I love the look of the riding position of the Aprilia.
Thanks George. Like you, always found the Vitpilen riding position to be comfortable. I notice the seat and grips are close to the same plane but I think possibly because you are sitting so close to the clip-ons, it makes it quite comfortable. Always found myself able to ride the Vitpilen for long periods of time without getting fatigued.
Cheers George, hope you are well. 👊🏽
@@ridewithKY Cheers KY!
This is way better in my opinion. But I prefer an aggressive riding position.
This is an awesome explanation of sport bike ergonomics. You really nailed it. I don't have an XSR900 but I was just curious. These will be perfect for someone who does a lot of highway commuting
Glad the video was helpful! Thank you for commenting and thank you for the support!
time for a proper exhaust!
whats the longest ride has the owner on the clip on yet so far? and hows his experience compare to the OEM handlebar?
Haha exhaust and tune are in the mail as we speak. 😃.
Owner has taken it out for a couple hours at a time. The riding position is really pretty comfortable still. The seat height is really what saves it. I’ve sat on naked bikes that were way less comfortable than this XSR set up. With this set up also get less wind buffering. The stock handlebars you get annihilated by the wind on the freeway.
Hey, I'm very late to this, but very quality video. If possible I would really like to see a ride on this bike with the clip ons just to see the rider perspective and thoughts while doing some fairly normal commuting. Keep up the great work!
We actually tried to do this but it was really hard to get a good visual representation while in motion. It’s not a very big difference between the stock bars and the clip-ons so capturing that difference while in motion just wasn’t that fruitful. Thanks for watching as always!
I’d love to see the hoobue c-s kit upgrade set on that bike
It’s a cool kit. Weird name but definitely a cool looking kit for these bikes.
The bikes looks so much better. Have you seen the retro fairings? I’m thinking with the clip-ons and that fair the bike would be the best modern retro out there.
Thank you! I have seen the retro fairings. Kind of want to see what it looks like without the goofy seat and goofy exhaust first, then decide if fairings are necessary. I do like the modern retro look the bike gets with the fairings. Thanks man!
Interesting set-up. I'm currently weighing my options concerning the seating position of the XSR 900. My last bike was a Triumph Street Triple and I liked the sportier position on that bike a lot more.
One thing you haven't talked about (in the video or the comments) is how the more committed riding position actually effects the handling/steering of the bike. Since the front is more loaded on this set-up, do you notice increased 'feeling' when entering a corner?
Having said that, keep on producing XSR 900 videos and I'll keep watching 'em :).
I haven’t noticed any significant difference in the handling. Low speed maneuvers are a little different but it’s nothing of any real note. These later XSR’s are not that responsive when turning in anyways. Yamaha changed the forks on the later ones to not be as twitchy as the early gens.
Thanks man hope that helps.
@@ridewithKY I just had mine couple days ago. From my experience, it's completly different bike now. Riding it just like sport bike, no more casual ride, easy to turn, comfortable. The way you control the bike and how the bike react to your input. So much weight on wrist and shoulder. Haven't try long distance yet. Anyway, still love how it looks and how it ride now.
I think it looks amazing, when I end up with mine I’m going to put the HooBue kit on it.
We were just looking and talking about that kit a few days ago!
Looks good! How does it compare to the Vitpilen?
The Vitpilen is a cool bike and in that 400CC category is basically the only bike I would even want. But it certainly has some significant flaws. This XSR is of course in a whole different class being a 900 but doesn’t have many flaws. I don’t think it captures the unique aesthetic that the Vitpilen’s do. However, the XSR’s are much better finished and thought out. Quality is much higher however to be fair the XSR is significantly more expensive.
@@ridewithKYApologies, I was referring to the riding position on the xsr with the clip ons compared to the Vitpilen?
Vitpilen is still more comfortable because the clip ons are closer to you. So even though they are clip ons, you are almost sitting straight up and down anyways.
Hello great video and beautiful set up do you have a link to those exact clip ons set up ? Thanks
I don’t. You can find this set up on S2 Concept’s website. They have a search feature as well. Thank you.
I like the new xsr900 but never enough to buy one, I wanted the GP that won't come to the us so seeing the clip ons and hopefully someone makes the gp fairings
I know what you mean. It’s easy to like something, but much harder to like it enough to spend your money on it. Clip ons make a huge difference though. Now just need to get rid of the funky seat.
@@ridewithKY Honestly, the seat isnt funky. It just needs the cover. I purchased the Pyramid rear cowl seat cover. Wish I could post a picture here for you, but it honestly transforms the seat into a standard rear cowl type of look. I'm in So Cal, not sure where you guys are, but if your close, I'd ride mine over to show you.
Sweet man. I’ve seen that cowl before and it does make a big difference. It’s a good alternative if one wants to keep the factory seat. We are in Northern California but often visit Southern California for various reasons. Cheers, thank you for your suggestion regarding the seat cowl.
@@ridewithKY If you're ever down this way, and you guys haven't seen one in person, hit me up. All the best bro.
Sounds great! Appreciate the offer very much. I do frequent Southern California so hope to meet up. Thank you again and thanks for watching!
Do you order them from the French S2 concept website? They deliver to the US??
Correct. They deliver to the US.
When is da SC project vid coming, new 2024 owner here, following your build one step at a time haha
Actually didn’t end up going SC. But the exhaust we did go with is in customs right now and should be to us soon. Hopefully about another week or so we should have a video published. Of course depends on customs. I’ve had things sit in customs for a week+ before. Thanks man for watching hope the videos are helpful to you.
Ordered the clip ons. What’s the diameter of bars for grips?
The standard domino 22mm ones will work.
@@ridewithKY how you like dominoe grips? Are they thicker than stock? Would like thicker grips, thanks for your feedback
The dominos are great. I don’t know by how much but the dominos are thicker than the stock ones. They are dual compound.
Add Kellerman Bullet Atto indicators.
Maybe upgrade the brakes ?
Thanks for the lead on the Kellerman indicators. 👊🏽.
How much were the taxes on import? Mine have been shipped
Fortunately we did not have to pay import taxes. I’m not sure why sometimes you have to pay and other times you don’t. I’ve ordered quite a few things from Italy over the years and I’ve got hit with taxes a few times but most of the time the part is delivered without additional fees.
Where do you order the clip ons? From the S2 concept French website?
I've looked at three different fairing seeting other than yamaha's because Yamaha's fairing suck, best looking is the hoobue but the clip ons are mandatory and they have their own turn lights which i don't like, moto velocity delivers a real fairing but im skeptical on the wind facing you on the head, the number 4 is by far the most unique but i really dont know about wind resistance in the head
Yeah these are real considerations and will vary from rider to rider depending on your stature. I don’t see many people talk about wind buffering when making these types of decisions, but for me I can’t stand wind buffering. Sounds like you are of a similar mindset.
So basically a neo retro cafe racer just like the husvarna vitpilen(?)
Similar styling concept but that’s about where the similarities end.
This thing here is sexy!!!
Thank you!
I like the visual showing the new seating position and clearance to the tank. I would like to hear about your impressions on riding with the bars and how it affected handling. I just traded my GSXR I had set up for track for a ‘24 900 and love it. The height and width of the 900 bars is taking getting used to though.
@unkunk5842 I like how it handles with the clip-ons. I never liked the upright seating position, just feels goofy. If you are used to sport bikes, you’ll like the clip ons for your 900. Still comfortable because the seat is low but you aren’t sitting straight up and down like an ADV.
Just thinking 🤔 you could get monster decals for it , that would make it look better, you could call it Frankenbike 😉 👏
Wow frankenbike, must have taken you a long time to think of that one. Explains your views on clip-ons vs handlebars. No creativity or imagination, just sourness. 😂😂😂.
RUINED!!!!!
😂😂😂
Always look forward to disappointing you 😂😂😂
@@ridewithKY push the algorithms! 🤝
😂