That was one of the best reviews of the MacBook Pro so far. I like the fact that you compared it with the previous model; other popular channels like The Verge didn't do this. Also, I like your deep voice.
Always enjoy watching your reviews Michael. They are always detailed and informative. The video quality is always top-notch with excellent sound. Keep up the good work. It's appreciated.
DetroitBORG I especially like that over the past couple years you have streamlined the content. A couple years ago, you covered literally everything leading to very long videos. I like the newer, crisper, ones.
Thank you so much man, I've been trying to see benchmarks between both 13" non touch bar and touch bar models and your channel is the only one that helped me made my decision on which one to get.
Yep, the keyboard is definitely louder but not to the point where I would care. While I do think they are overpriced, especially the touch bar ones, I will probably still eventually buy one, I'm a sucker for space gray.
the typing this is that you are clearly hitting the keys way harder than you need to... on the older laptops you have more travel so you are having to push down more... on the newer laptops you dont have to push down as hard, but because you are used to the old way you are actually pressing more than you need to... over time your typing will adjust and i think you will find that the new keyboard is quieter than the older models...
I have wanted to see a review on this MacBook Pro so much. Thinking about getting one for my daughter and was wanting to get one for myself as well. Thanks so much!
Yes, the keyboard looks like lost in a pond on the 15, that's why after ordering the 15 on the day of the keynote, I cancelled and ordered a 13 the next day :) And lost a week in the process .. (but also got back to a more "reasonable" price..
You always make the best unboxings and reviews on YT. Even the shower vids like the Nike watch ⌚️. You find the simplest and most beautiful crisp shots. Thanks from a 2+ year subscriber
I don't think anyone has noticed this or not, but on the 2015 model, it does not say MacBook Pro below the screen, near the keyboard, and now with the 2016 model, it is back!
Thank you for your amazing videos for the Macbook Pro 2016. I've been wanting to switch into a Macbook laptop and your reviews regarding the latest Pro will definitely help me choose which one to get.
Great video, I was waiting for this comparison for a long time! I think base model with 512GB ssd is a better choice than touch bar version. Considering the performance difference being less than 10%. Touch bar is good but everything you do is still possible with short keys
I've had a lot of MacBooks and rarely ever used any of the functions keys so instead of waiting i desided to up the specs on the base 2.4 I7 up to 3.4 turbo boost with 16 gb I still can exchange it for the touch bar version but I'm completely happy with this one. Thanks
hey detroitborg i love your channel and i am happy that you are nearly at 1 mill, you really deserve it with some of the best videos on youtube, can you do more phone reviews
Coming from someone who has the new Mac with touch bar (I'm writing this with it) I can say its a great computer. The keyboard I was skeptical at first because I hated the keyboard on the Macbook but I must say the new generation keyboard is fantastic and it feels great. The touch bar is a neat feature and I do love the new ways to use the computer with it but because its new there isn't enough support from third party devs for it yet but still a nice feature to have on your computer. Overall the new MacBook pro with the touch is fantastic and I would recommend it to anyone.
Hey Mike, how long does the battery life of the 13 inch Macbook Pro with Touchbar last under moderate use? I know apple claims 10 hours, but people are reporting less than 6?
This video made the 2016 base model look so much better.. if you don't care for the new touch bar which you really don't need kinda gimmicky, better battery and sound and very similar in geekbench
IMO your best review yet. I especially liked the fact that you clearly laid out all the technical differences between the different models. Unfortunately, that doesn't make the task of choosing my first MacBook any easier.. :-)
Michael, thank you so much for this video. I was going to purchase the new 2017 MacBook Pro 13 inch but I decided after watching this video I'm gonna go with last year's 2016 model on a refurbished from Apple's website. Thanks again DB, great video as always!
If you look at teardowns, or even Apple's product information page, you'll see that the speaker drivers differ in location between models. In the touchbar model, the speaker drivers are located underneath the palm rest. If you can't tell the difference, then it probably means that it doesn't really matter all that much.
Thank you finally a good review with facts base and knowledge with out complaining for the touch bar that they don't even know what to used obviously by what you explain...
That will out perform the touch bar version I believe as the geek bench numbers are 4048 | 7903. It has better battery life, and speakers and only a slightly slower GPU, which you may not even notice and a unproven touchable bar. All this for the same money. I know which one i'd be getting and I think you might have made a good choice.
I would consider the 13 inch macbook pro with touch bar to be the best out of all the versions. It's not to big, really powerful, and its only a 300 dollar difference between the normal 13 inch. In that 300 dollar difference, you are getting 4 thunderbolt 3 ports, more ram, faster processer, much better graphics and a touch bar. So personally the 300 dollar difference is worth it. :)
Asark sark the 13 inch macbook pro without touch bar cost 1299 without taxes with taxes will be 1400 and with touch bar is 1999 without taxes and with taxes cost 2100, so the real difference will be 700$ bucks so there is a big difference in the price
I have played around with my MacBook Pro 13inch with the Touch Bar for about a week now. My favorite improvements are as follows: 1. Volume 2. Resolution 3. Speed I come from using the 2013 MacBook Pro with Retina display. The three that I have mentioned have stood out the most in regards to improvements. Regarding the touch bar: I really am getting accustomed to it. When I am watching RUclips videos, I really like the option that it gives on the touch bar to search the video. However, when it comes to Netflix, it only gives you the amount of the videos left of what it has buffered; I am not quite sure what they can do to improve that. In addition with the touch bar, I do not see me using the IOS feature with the words appearing on the top. I rarely use that with my iPhone, so I do not see me using it. However, I do love the Emoji bar; I am using the emoji's a lot more now. Compared to my 2013 model, Siri works more seamlessly. Before, the 2013 version was a bit choppy and having difficulty even using Siri. Now, I am able to use Siri without hassle. (However, I feel like using Siri is a process of getting used to.) I agree what you said about the keyboard. I feel like this keyboard is a lot faster. At first, I am unsure because I was so used to the keys being a bit higher up. However, with using the keyboard more, I find it more comfortable. (Side note: I love the sound of the keys. It's possibly one of my favorite sounds! However, hopefully they do not disrupt those when you are in a quiet area such as a library.) One of the downfalls that I have seen recently has been the battery. I am not having this problem at all; I've gotten at least the 10 hours that Apple has prompted. When I am streaming videos online, I also search the web. With the time for streaming, I say I get about 6 hours from constant usage. When I am browsing the web only, I am getting at least 10 hours. (I want to say the reason being is that I have my brightness down. I find this to help with all my Apple products.) In addition, I do agree with you on the laptop for a whole. There are some improvements that they will be making in the future; possibly through software improvements that we will see in the next few months to a couple years. I really have fun using this laptop. It's light (compared to what I am used to) and convenient to my lifestyle. The adaptors make no difference to me. I have invested in a USB flash drive with both the traditional dangle on one side and the USB C on the other; this makes transitioning to my laptop to another, since I am in school, a lot more smoothly. Thank you for your review! It's very well done and informative! Megan
Dango Ruiz You're kidding me right? There are tons of laptops with dedicated GPUs in a 13 inch form factor that have great battery life and everything. Apple is just brainwashing you.
Ah, an ltt sheep... i like ltt and watch like every second video of his but the point of the 13 inch isn't a dedicated gpu, the 13 inch is an everage work machine, and its no secret
Oh Shut your ignorant ass up. Apple used to use only dedicated GPU's in their 12" Powerbooks for years before they switched over to Intel. From there they started making much thinner laptops and created the 13" Macbook Pro with IGPU to keep the heat down. Am I happy about this? NO. I wanted the new 13" Macbook Pro to have a dGPU, but at least I'm not making ignorant, non-educated idiotic statements like you. You're exactly why the internet can be a horrible place for solid information.
I don't see the point to make a laptop touch screen, your screen will be always dirty and plenty of fingerprints on it. 3-4 pounds item with touchscreen is no confortable or manuable for being portable. Its nice but not practical on my opinion.
base model vs new touchbar model if performance gains arent that powerful.... is the touchbar and those ports worth the worse speakers battery life and price?
Listening to the speaker difference in this video (with headphones) I didn't really notice a significant difference. I'd say it's worth trying the touchbar model in a store to see if it's worth it to you. Ultimately, it comes down to your personal use case and preference, though.
T U C K F R U M P I'd say no because for $300 extra you aren't gaining much bit you are losing a lot. Less than 10% performance boost, touch bar, 2 ports extra. You'll probably be using a dongle anyways so the ports are negligible. Up to you to decide about touch bar, but I feel like it's a gimmick. Some reviewers have been putting the battery life as low as 6 - 7 hours, compared to the 10 on the base model. Speakers also seem noticeably worse in my opinion. Losing things for more money just doesn't feel good imo
4NewHop3 MacBooks are not made for games but for work. I need laptop for Windows office, watching films and videos and a little bit web browsing. Aka students life. :)
because of the speakers, the MacBook pro with touch bar is a big fat disappointment, are the speaker grills just there for decoration? this is why I'm buying the baseline model and not the touch bar version, also i went to the apple store and tried out the touch bar version, its not very useful and feels a bit weird when using it for essential stuff such as pressing the escape key
Get a 2015 model then: all the ports you want, SD slot, magsafe, old style keyboard. About the "esc" key, I don't really understand why you all want it. It will be there on the bar when you need it but it already affected the "software" side only before, it won't work now only in situations when it wouldn't have worked before.
lmao you can't claim the touchbar isn't useful after playing with it for 10 min at the apple store. the touchbar is def useful and will continue to become more useful in time, unlike the base model traditional fn keys. also the speaker difference is incredibly marginal, basically no difference.
4:10 I closed my eyes and didn’t even notice that you changed between the laptops. When looking(listening) back it it, it sounds like the touchbar has a little bit more low-end frequencies
So, less ports, no magsafe, no glowing apple logo, no startup chime, no micro fiber cleaner cloth, no power adapter extension cable, the need to buy a lot of usb-c adapters, Zero chance to upgrade the memory Ram and SSD and more expensive ??? Really Apple ???
Max Powers better sound, touch bar, better and bigger trackpad, better keys(no light spill out), slimmer, better screen, faster, smaller bezels, new color. USB type c will be the future anyway, so stop crying. aesthetically it's the best computer today. it's also the most optimized and smooth running.
+Josh H Saying the MacBook Pro is aesthetically the best computer today is a matter of opinion. I don't think it's the best looking, but I guess it's up there.
Emad Ahmed You're obviously not the target audience that was "Pro". How anyone can accept full USB C when almost nothing is USB C (yet), not even their phones, iPads, and iPods (whoever still uses one) is ridiculous.
Emad Ahmed Yeah, it will be standard, but that's still some time off. By the time it is standard, this machine will already be obsolete. But I do agree they should've used USB C with the iPhones this year.
and the extension cable. I generally leave it plugged and just take the brick when on the go. Now you have to buy it separately. I wonder, is it that expensive?
I think I might skip this version. I own the 2014 MBP model right now and it is working great, haven't had any flaws with it at all in the (almost) 3 years that I got it. I really like the Touch-bar but I am not happy with the removal of MagSafe, USB type A and no front facing speakers... (Why would they even put speaker grills right there then after all :/ )
Btw, great review :P I love the way they implemented Emoji's There isn't any convenient way to "type" them except for sexting a shortcut for every emoji 😂
Sam Marsden Great choice :P I got the same one. It works perfectly fine, sometimes sons stuttering in Photoshop but other than that it is a great choice. Is it your first Mac? Peace ✌🏻
+Milan Meiland it arrived yesterday I love the way it looks and it came with the box too as it was second hand , the experience is amazing though , the way the package 😉
Oh yeah, because carrying around dongles is gonna weigh down your purse. Honestly, how many dongles do you honestly thing you would need? You're being stupid. Who would need a dongle to carry around day to day? What do you need to plug into your computer day to day that would require you to carry around dongle"S"??? It's really sad when people worry more about connectors then getting work done. You do realize you can still run your apps right? Or did you think Macs are only for looking at and not using? SMH.
Wesley Jordan I did carry quite a few dongles around on the Macbook 12. Fortunately I sold it but at least I needed 3 with me all the time (USB, ethernet, card reader). Or, carry a wireless HDD with card reader, heavy by all means. AND the iPhone cable. Plus papers and other things, my bag was EXTREMELY heavy to travel public transportation.
i have this exact model and im telling you its is worth it!!!! if you are thinking about getting this and you have the budget GO FOR IT! totally nice to use
If its only for speed, you might get a 15 inch, even an old one (2014/15), they are much still better that the 13 inch models, but what makes the 13 inch is the touch bar and that you get 4 ports, which is 3 times as good as 2 (1 is gonna be used for charging anyway)
***** No, they aren't know for their GPU power, but they are "Pro" computers. No matter how optimized FinalCut is, Intel Potato graphics aren't going to help you. Usability wise they don't do anything better than a Windows Machine can either. I like them, but they are overpriced, under speced, and too many people defend them.
*Usability wise they don't do anything better than a Windows Machine can either* LMAO, I had to chuckle with that post. Yeah, keep telling yourself that Microsheep.
*I like them, but they are overpriced, under speced, and too many people defend them* Then why are you here? Just to troll and make ignorant statements?
Wesley Jordan No, to show that part for part a Mac is so much more than a PC. Mind you I have owned Macs before. I had one up to 2013 but needed more power and more compatibility with applications. Running Windows in Bootcamp was almost like cheating, then I built a whole Windows PC.
victor9716 I think the difference is very minor and they're still louder than last year model... and while there is a difference the speakers are some of the best on the market for its size
Hi detroitborg, I always watched your videos on unboxing and review of tech products (specially on macbooks :)haha) love those badboys in computer industry. Encase you want some of your macbooks to be given away,well, I am here with arms wide willing to receive one of your mac :)
Why do you people keep on looking at specs, when it's clear Apple doesn't and they're always (kinda) right? They just put in a processor that they think will fit most buyers' needs. Who buys the base models won't probably go heavy rendering. The Core M in the Macbook sounds ridiculous but gives performance good enough for the on-the-go usage buyers want. 2GB of RAM, only two cores on the iPhones, mixed with software give the right power and battery life (well, according to their idea you still need to charge your phone everyday). Stop judging Macs on paper, maybe they're actually not powerful enough but you can't know until you buy one and find yourself in a situation that requires more power.
has lost it everything they've done has been a complete joke.The prices are so ridiculous for an under powered machine with lack of ports like who the hell is this mac book designed for?
That was one of the best reviews of the MacBook Pro so far. I like the fact that you compared it with the previous model; other popular channels like The Verge didn't do this. Also, I like your deep voice.
Yeah, he does some of the best reviews on RUclips.
Ajwad Sabano - yeah he sounds like he is bill gates , and he develops apple and stuff
Always enjoy watching your reviews Michael. They are always detailed and informative. The video quality is always top-notch with excellent sound. Keep up the good work. It's appreciated.
I like his videos. Everything is always so crisp.
Thank You!
DetroitBORG I especially like that over the past couple years you have streamlined the content. A couple years ago, you covered literally everything leading to very long videos. I like the newer, crisper, ones.
Amazingggggggg:)
Noah Lear nou
+DetroitBORG yeah so do i
Thank you so much man, I've been trying to see benchmarks between both 13" non touch bar and touch bar models and your channel is the only one that helped me made my decision on which one to get.
Same
Yep, the keyboard is definitely louder but not to the point where I would care. While I do think they are overpriced, especially the touch bar ones, I will probably still eventually buy one, I'm a sucker for space gray.
Same here.
Wish they made it in black. I'll deifintely buy.
A color has locked in your purchase? Jesus man, they're preying on fools like you.
I was dissapointed when they didn't make a rose gold one. Only because of that I WOULD upgrade.
I'll never part with the mini. Size is everything, at least for me!
Im getting one of these on Christmas and im literally watching everything about them! So excited!!!
Same bro 😂😂😂😂😂watched this vid like 5times already
SAME 😍😍 IM SO EXITED!
Same I’m so excited it’s my first MacBook 😊
Same bro it’s almost Christmas too!! Shiii 😭
same ahahaha
I tried one yesterday in the Apple store and I’m obsessed with it! It’s perfect weight, colour, looks awesome and the touchbar! Love it
One of the best RUclipsrs.The reviews are in-depth and you cover every single aspect of product you have reviewed.Thank you
Please reply
Your reviews are super in depth and descriptive. One of the best on RUclips! Awesome video as always 👍
the typing this is that you are clearly hitting the keys way harder than you need to... on the older laptops you have more travel so you are having to push down more... on the newer laptops you dont have to push down as hard, but because you are used to the old way you are actually pressing more than you need to... over time your typing will adjust and i think you will find that the new keyboard is quieter than the older models...
I have been watching your review videos since 2015 (y)
Thumbs up to your awesome explanation and detailed description. Really keep up the good work.
i’m getting a computer for my first time and thinking that’s the one i need
thanks for a great review!
I have wanted to see a review on this MacBook Pro so much. Thinking about getting one for my daughter and was wanting to get one for myself as well. Thanks so much!
How come the 13" looks so much more pleasing than the 15"?
+Joshua Keys Agreed, it's the proportions.
have read my email? :/
I have been digging through my e-mails every evening after I work on video, I might get to it tonight if I see it.
Thanks, but i've sent it quite long, even a quick reply would've enough for me
Yes, the keyboard looks like lost in a pond on the 15, that's why after ordering the 15 on the day of the keynote, I cancelled and ordered a 13 the next day :) And lost a week in the process .. (but also got back to a more "reasonable" price..
You always make the best unboxings and reviews on YT. Even the shower vids like the Nike watch ⌚️. You find the simplest and most beautiful crisp shots. Thanks from a 2+ year subscriber
I'm glad you found out about the volume/brightness slider trick. It really makes a difference, in my opinion.
I don't think anyone has noticed this or not, but on the 2015 model, it does not say MacBook Pro below the screen, near the keyboard, and now with the 2016 model, it is back!
This review is more pro than the macbook pro itself
Thank you Mike great video as always. I just purchased 13' with touch bar. This is my first Mac!
you do the best tech reviews I've seen. Thank you.
I got the 13" Macbook Pro with TouchBar yesterday and so far I'm loving it!
Great video as always! Your voice is so stunning ❤️
+FabTBC 😊
Thank you for your amazing videos for the Macbook Pro 2016. I've been wanting to switch into a Macbook laptop and your reviews regarding the latest Pro will definitely help me choose which one to get.
Excellent video as usual. Very detailed and good comparisons. Keep it up! :)
Mike.. That editing at 0:40 TOP NOTCH MY FRIEND. You are amazing, love the videos #crispyaf
Jair Salgado
No, not really for me lol
It’s called opinion? One mans trash is another mans treasure
Jair Salgado
I said "not for me" no offense 0.0
Great video, I was waiting for this comparison for a long time! I think base model with 512GB ssd is a better choice than touch bar version. Considering the performance difference being less than 10%. Touch bar is good but everything you do is still possible with short keys
Sure
I've had a lot of MacBooks and rarely ever used any of the functions keys so instead of waiting i desided to up the specs on the base 2.4 I7 up to 3.4 turbo boost with 16 gb I still can exchange it for the touch bar version but I'm completely happy with this one. Thanks
hey detroitborg i love your channel and i am happy that you are nearly at 1 mill, you really deserve it with some of the best videos on youtube, can you do more phone reviews
0:39 I loved that transtion you did :D
+Yair92002 🙏
I think the base MBP 13" 2016 is the best bang for buck for now. TB needs more time to bake and mature. Am I right?
Coming from someone who has the new Mac with touch bar (I'm writing this with it) I can say its a great computer. The keyboard I was skeptical at first because I hated the keyboard on the Macbook but I must say the new generation keyboard is fantastic and it feels great. The touch bar is a neat feature and I do love the new ways to use the computer with it but because its new there isn't enough support from third party devs for it yet but still a nice feature to have on your computer. Overall the new MacBook pro with the touch is fantastic and I would recommend it to anyone.
I love this channel!! And that MacBook Pro 13 looks amazing
Hey Mike, how long does the battery life of the 13 inch Macbook Pro with Touchbar last under moderate use? I know apple claims 10 hours, but people are reporting less than 6?
This video made the 2016 base model look so much better.. if you don't care for the new touch bar which you really don't need kinda gimmicky, better battery and sound and very similar in geekbench
IMO your best review yet. I especially liked the fact that you clearly laid out all the technical differences between the different models.
Unfortunately, that doesn't make the task of choosing my first MacBook any easier.. :-)
The most frank review I have ever watched. 👏
Your intro is so damn satisfying
+Kobe Bryant 👌🏻🙏🏻
DetroitBORG Looks amazing in 4K man!!
+DetroitBORG nice vid and new sub
That speaker difference really ticks me off
Just got mines and I love it! I have the 2019 model with the 4 usb-c ports and so far I'm liking it
Michael, thank you so much for this video. I was going to purchase the new 2017 MacBook Pro 13 inch but I decided after watching this video I'm gonna go with last year's 2016 model on a refurbished from Apple's website. Thanks again DB, great video as always!
for some reason, I still find the 2015 13"MBP the best choice for me
I honestly prefer that
I like that edit at 0:40. Zooming in on the Apple logo, zooming out on the back. ;D
IKR, That is what he never did, except only in this video
Was waiting for this. Thank you
Wow man sorry to say this but I think I'm in love with your hands haha. Btw, amazing review as always.
love your vids ur awesome!! do a setup tour!'
Holy shit? "Loved by DetroitBorg"!!! Christ RUclips what are you doing to us?
MrRecentlyUpdated love him he's pretty good at what he does 💞😚
At least he can show his face
+DetroitBORG Could you please explain the speaker grill section of your video? It was confusing to understand which one had what.
If you look at teardowns, or even Apple's product information page, you'll see that the speaker drivers differ in location between models. In the touchbar model, the speaker drivers are located underneath the palm rest. If you can't tell the difference, then it probably means that it doesn't really matter all that much.
Awesome comparison on the 13" MBP with touch bar compared to the other '16 releases! Thanks.
Thank you finally a good review with facts base and knowledge with out complaining for the touch bar that they don't even know what to used obviously by what you explain...
I ordered the base line but upgraded to a I7 and 16 gb of ram and I am very happy with it plus there is the wait 4 to 5 weeks.
That will out perform the touch bar version I believe as the geek bench numbers are 4048 | 7903. It has better battery life, and speakers and only a slightly slower GPU, which you may not even notice and a unproven touchable bar. All this for the same money. I know which one i'd be getting and I think you might have made a good choice.
Thanks
I hardly ever used the function tabs on any of my other MacBooks so that is why I made the choice to just upgrade to the 2.4 I7 and 16 gb of ram.
I would consider the 13 inch macbook pro with touch bar to be the best out of all the versions. It's not to big, really powerful, and its only a 300 dollar difference between the normal 13 inch. In that 300 dollar difference, you are getting 4 thunderbolt 3 ports, more ram, faster processer, much better graphics and a touch bar. So personally the 300 dollar difference is worth it. :)
Asark sark the 13 inch macbook pro without touch bar cost 1299 without taxes with taxes will be 1400 and with touch bar is 1999 without taxes and with taxes cost 2100, so the real difference will be 700$ bucks so there is a big difference in the price
I just got a 13” 256gb with Touch bar Ex Demo for £1249. You get good deals when you shop around.
Unicorn blood looking to buy as well. Where did you get yours?
Riccardo Bagaini Stormfront in the UK, a licensed Apple Retailer but I doubt they have many left as most of them went in the first week
Em i got mine for $780 in box like new you get good deal when you wait patient for the right time
best review Ive seen so far. congrats.
thanks for picking up every design detail. Haven't seen that in any other video!
(differences in speakers, USB C Ports etc..)
I have played around with my MacBook Pro 13inch with the Touch Bar for about a week now. My favorite improvements are as follows:
1. Volume
2. Resolution
3. Speed
I come from using the 2013 MacBook Pro with Retina display. The three that I have mentioned have stood out the most in regards to improvements.
Regarding the touch bar: I really am getting accustomed to it. When I am watching RUclips videos, I really like the option that it gives on the touch bar to search the video. However, when it comes to Netflix, it only gives you the amount of the videos left of what it has buffered; I am not quite sure what they can do to improve that.
In addition with the touch bar, I do not see me using the IOS feature with the words appearing on the top. I rarely use that with my iPhone, so I do not see me using it. However, I do love the Emoji bar; I am using the emoji's a lot more now.
Compared to my 2013 model, Siri works more seamlessly. Before, the 2013 version was a bit choppy and having difficulty even using Siri. Now, I am able to use Siri without hassle. (However, I feel like using Siri is a process of getting used to.)
I agree what you said about the keyboard. I feel like this keyboard is a lot faster. At first, I am unsure because I was so used to the keys being a bit higher up. However, with using the keyboard more, I find it more comfortable. (Side note: I love the sound of the keys. It's possibly one of my favorite sounds! However, hopefully they do not disrupt those when you are in a quiet area such as a library.)
One of the downfalls that I have seen recently has been the battery. I am not having this problem at all; I've gotten at least the 10 hours that Apple has prompted. When I am streaming videos online, I also search the web. With the time for streaming, I say I get about 6 hours from constant usage. When I am browsing the web only, I am getting at least 10 hours. (I want to say the reason being is that I have my brightness down. I find this to help with all my Apple products.)
In addition, I do agree with you on the laptop for a whole. There are some improvements that they will be making in the future; possibly through software improvements that we will see in the next few months to a couple years. I really have fun using this laptop. It's light (compared to what I am used to) and convenient to my lifestyle. The adaptors make no difference to me. I have invested in a USB flash drive with both the traditional dangle on one side and the USB C on the other; this makes transitioning to my laptop to another, since I am in school, a lot more smoothly.
Thank you for your review! It's very well done and informative!
Megan
it is the same resolution since 2012 retina... it is just brighter
Can't wait tell we get to the point to where the 13" form factor can handle a dedicated GPU with great battery life.
We can only hope that such a day could come true soon.
Dango Ruiz You're kidding me right? There are tons of laptops with dedicated GPUs in a 13 inch form factor that have great battery life and everything. Apple is just brainwashing you.
Ah, an ltt sheep... i like ltt and watch like every second video of his but the point of the 13 inch isn't a dedicated gpu, the 13 inch is an everage work machine, and its no secret
Oh Shut your ignorant ass up. Apple used to use only dedicated GPU's in their 12" Powerbooks for years before they switched over to Intel. From there they started making much thinner laptops and created the 13" Macbook Pro with IGPU to keep the heat down. Am I happy about this? NO. I wanted the new 13" Macbook Pro to have a dGPU, but at least I'm not making ignorant, non-educated idiotic statements like you. You're exactly why the internet can be a horrible place for solid information.
Love all your videos DB
owesome review. i was going to go for the base model but definitely the one with the touch bar is more cool
should i sell my razer blade 14 2017 gtx 1060 and get a macbok pro 2017 13 with touch bar???
Well yes, if you are going to use it for work and professionnal learning and no if you are going to use it for gaming.
I don't see the point to make a laptop touch screen, your screen will be always dirty and plenty of fingerprints on it. 3-4 pounds item with touchscreen is no confortable or manuable for being portable. Its nice but not practical on my opinion.
FINALLY U HAVE 1MIL!!!! CONGRATS!!
always High Quality Video... hope you do speedtest comparison all new macbook pro
i was aiming for 15 inch but my wallet was crying😢 so i went with 13inch still happy tho coz i got the 516gb flash storage
base model vs new touchbar model
if performance gains arent that powerful.... is the touchbar and those ports worth the worse speakers battery life and price?
T U C K F R U M P no
Listening to the speaker difference in this video (with headphones) I didn't really notice a significant difference. I'd say it's worth trying the touchbar model in a store to see if it's worth it to you. Ultimately, it comes down to your personal use case and preference, though.
T U C K F R U M P I'd say no because for $300 extra you aren't gaining much bit you are losing a lot. Less than 10% performance boost, touch bar, 2 ports extra. You'll probably be using a dongle anyways so the ports are negligible. Up to you to decide about touch bar, but I feel like it's a gimmick. Some reviewers have been putting the battery life as low as 6 - 7 hours, compared to the 10 on the base model. Speakers also seem noticeably worse in my opinion. Losing things for more money just doesn't feel good imo
ザカリー・バトラー yea but it's on a desk. On a bed or softer surface the bottom speakers will be enveloped
I'll go try a touchbar in a store thanks mate :)
Benson Wu thanks mate that really made me feel not crazy about preferring base model XD
Great review as always!!!
Awesome video as usual
Jony Ive really hates big ports.
I don't have a laptop yet. I am PC user but I am definitely going to bye the 2015 MacBook Pro 15 inch
Vladislav Angelov why seriously if I may ask for 1799 it's a steep price. I mean imo you may as well go for a macbook air on black friday
Wongseifu548
I prefer the Pro but nothe the model with the touch stipe. I just need the Pro for my srudents activities.
Vladislav Angelov I bought it instead of the 2016 one, best decision ever
I just said bye to my 2015 MacBook Pro 15 inch lol. I got a gaming laptop, as the MacBook Pro didn't suit me as I so thought. But I hope you enjoy! :P
4NewHop3 MacBooks are not made for games but for work. I need laptop for Windows office, watching films and videos and a little bit web browsing. Aka students life. :)
you are so awesome!! I love all of your videos!
Mine is coming in a couple of days! I’m so excited
I’m looking forward to buy a MacBook Pro 13inch 2019 . However , I can’t decide which color should I buy ? Silver or space gray ? Any thoughts ? 😂
Space grey
The same question though 😂😂😂
because of the speakers, the MacBook pro with touch bar is a big fat disappointment, are the speaker grills just there for decoration? this is why I'm buying the baseline model and not the touch bar version, also i went to the apple store and tried out the touch bar version, its not very useful and feels a bit weird when using it for essential stuff such as pressing the escape key
The speakers are located elsewhere because they are creating ports for the speakers. Putting your hand on the grill should change the sound.
Get a 2015 model then: all the ports you want, SD slot, magsafe, old style keyboard.
About the "esc" key, I don't really understand why you all want it. It will be there on the bar when you need it but it already affected the "software" side only before, it won't work now only in situations when it wouldn't have worked before.
lmao you can't claim the touchbar isn't useful after playing with it for 10 min at the apple store. the touchbar is def useful and will continue to become more useful in time, unlike the base model traditional fn keys. also the speaker difference is incredibly marginal, basically no difference.
JamesJDMoe Can I also say I'm happier about the dead of those useless, confusing, obsolete fn keys?
they're not obsolete
4:10 I closed my eyes and didn’t even notice that you changed between the laptops. When looking(listening) back it it, it sounds like the touchbar has a little bit more low-end frequencies
DetroitBORG is almost at a million!!
Apple can take out every port but if they change that sound after pressing the power button i would be very mad 😂 still miss ios 6 charging sound
they removed the sound
It's disabled by default but you can change it in the settings.
So, less ports, no magsafe, no glowing apple logo, no startup chime, no micro fiber cleaner cloth, no power adapter extension cable, the need to buy a lot of usb-c adapters, Zero chance to upgrade the memory Ram and SSD and more expensive ??? Really Apple ???
Max Powers better sound, touch bar, better and bigger trackpad, better keys(no light spill out), slimmer, better screen, faster, smaller bezels, new color. USB type c will be the future anyway, so stop crying. aesthetically it's the best computer today. it's also the most optimized and smooth running.
Josh H Just because it's slimmer doesn't mean it's better in terms of functionality. And touch bar is pretty pointless but pretty cool
+Josh H Saying the MacBook Pro is aesthetically the best computer today is a matter of opinion. I don't think it's the best looking, but I guess it's up there.
Emad Ahmed You're obviously not the target audience that was "Pro". How anyone can accept full USB C when almost nothing is USB C (yet), not even their phones, iPads, and iPods (whoever still uses one) is ridiculous.
Emad Ahmed Yeah, it will be standard, but that's still some time off. By the time it is standard, this machine will already be obsolete. But I do agree they should've used USB C with the iPhones this year.
Great video Mike!!
Man cant believe apple is cheapening out even on the microfiber cloth
Scott Lin lol this
and the extension cable. I generally leave it plugged and just take the brick when on the go. Now you have to buy it separately. I wonder, is it that expensive?
Unless you need longer than 6FT I wouldn't buy the extension. The included wire is 6FT long.
Isabella San Mateo
My iMac came with one but my Macbook Air, 13" and 15" Macbook Pro's never came with a cleaning cloth.
***** no, it isn't
I think I might skip this version. I own the 2014 MBP model right now and it is working great, haven't had any flaws with it at all in the (almost) 3 years that I got it.
I really like the Touch-bar but I am not happy with the removal of MagSafe, USB type A and no front facing speakers... (Why would they even put speaker grills right there then after all :/ )
Btw, great review :P
I love the way they implemented Emoji's
There isn't any convenient way to "type" them except for sexting a shortcut for every emoji 😂
Yo man i just picked up the 2014 model with adobe and stuff is it good for editing ?
Sam Marsden Great choice :P I got the same one. It works perfectly fine, sometimes sons stuttering in Photoshop but other than that it is a great choice. Is it your first Mac?
Peace ✌🏻
+Milan Meiland Yep first MacBook
+Milan Meiland it arrived yesterday I love the way it looks and it came with the box too as it was second hand , the experience is amazing though , the way the package 😉
Man such a great video! 😍
excellent review. maybe the best on youtube
Dual core processor
8GB of ram
Integrated graphics
1899$
Pro? Anything but.
Xenon Tech the OS makes the difference really
Jayra Borja I prefer windows. Finder is truly awful.
Xenon Tech Yep, what a joke.
You can run Windows on Mac but cant do the Vice Versa :)
Don't forget the fake speakers ;)
I hate how they got rid of the normal usb ports for the stupid usb c. I don't want to carry around dongles.
What I hate the most is having a dedicated USB C to Lightning cable for the phone.
Oh yeah, because carrying around dongles is gonna weigh down your purse. Honestly, how many dongles do you honestly thing you would need? You're being stupid. Who would need a dongle to carry around day to day? What do you need to plug into your computer day to day that would require you to carry around dongle"S"??? It's really sad when people worry more about connectors then getting work done. You do realize you can still run your apps right? Or did you think Macs are only for looking at and not using? SMH.
At least on my late 2012 mac mini I have 4 usb ports and a sd card reader. I can even upgrade the ram still.
Wesley Jordan woah relax. why are you so emotional? I'm not even been rude. it's a serious question.
Wesley Jordan I did carry quite a few dongles around on the Macbook 12. Fortunately I sold it but at least I needed 3 with me all the time (USB, ethernet, card reader). Or, carry a wireless HDD with card reader, heavy by all means. AND the iPhone cable. Plus papers and other things, my bag was EXTREMELY heavy to travel public transportation.
Watched almost 50+ times In last 6-7 Months.
Love this macbook pro 13
i have this exact model and im telling you its is worth it!!!! if you are thinking about getting this and you have the budget GO FOR IT! totally nice to use
When I grow up I want to be Mike.....
+B Fahey 😂
I see you're trying out that new touch bar emoji keyboard, Mike.
Touch bar is so pointless in my opinion. I enjoyed the review though, well made content man.
LWGArcade it's cool, but yeah, it's seems pretty pointless imo
touch screen > touch bar
No. Macs do not need touch screens.
ThingThing223 Says who?
Surface isn't even in a comparable class. At the end of the day it's a tablet. Macs will never have touch screens.
I’m a graphic designer and I was thinking of getting one of these and now I’m definitely gonna get one
Thanks DetroitBORG!
Is the speed difference worth the 300$?
It's not only just a speed increase. Lol
If that's the only thing you're looking at, I would say no.
Did you notice any difference in battery life between the two 13" models?
Thank you :)
If its only for speed, you might get a 15 inch, even an old one (2014/15), they are much still better that the 13 inch models, but what makes the 13 inch is the touch bar and that you get 4 ports, which is 3 times as good as 2 (1 is gonna be used for charging anyway)
I mean I love the Mac.......but when I can get a laptop with a GTX 1060 in it for like $600-$800 its kinda not really worth it.......
***** No, they aren't know for their GPU power, but they are "Pro" computers. No matter how optimized FinalCut is, Intel Potato graphics aren't going to help you.
Usability wise they don't do anything better than a Windows Machine can either.
I like them, but they are overpriced, under speced, and too many people defend them.
thats true, but if you wanted this to be your primary machine, you would get a 15 inch anyway of a windows
*Usability wise they don't do anything better than a Windows Machine can either*
LMAO, I had to chuckle with that post. Yeah, keep telling yourself that Microsheep.
*I like them, but they are overpriced, under speced, and too many people defend them*
Then why are you here? Just to troll and make ignorant statements?
Wesley Jordan No, to show that part for part a Mac is so much more than a PC. Mind you I have owned Macs before. I had one up to 2013 but needed more power and more compatibility with applications. Running Windows in Bootcamp was almost like cheating, then I built a whole Windows PC.
Great video very helpful!
Macbook....its like my dream...
Nice review
apple needs to start putting their own processors in their laptops
That speaker difference was a real bummer :(
victor9716 I think the difference is very minor and they're still louder than last year model... and while there is a difference the speakers are some of the best on the market for its size
there is basically no difference. very marginal
JamesJDMoe Have you heard it in real life, because in the video i thought the difference was more than marginal. I hope there isnt though.
+JamesJDMoe I heard the difference. Quite a difference imo.
Literally the same speaker on both. The difference is the positioning.
Hi detroitborg, I always watched your videos on unboxing and review of tech products (specially on macbooks :)haha) love those badboys in computer industry. Encase you want some of your macbooks to be given away,well, I am here with arms wide willing to receive one of your mac :)
The way the keyboard sounds when you type can be controlled by the force use when you hit the keys
wtf the speakers are WORSE than the baseline?!
+palmtree486 MC I think so, but not a deal breaker.
Honestly, what do you need the touchbar for? It is pointless.
This probably needs a dedicated video but there are some very useful tools that pop up in unexpected ways that are genuinely useful.
DetroitBORG I get it but it's really pointless and should not be 300 more! They also should not have used a 2ghz processor in the base model.
Why do you people keep on looking at specs, when it's clear Apple doesn't and they're always (kinda) right? They just put in a processor that they think will fit most buyers' needs. Who buys the base models won't probably go heavy rendering. The Core M in the Macbook sounds ridiculous but gives performance good enough for the on-the-go usage buyers want. 2GB of RAM, only two cores on the iPhones, mixed with software give the right power and battery life (well, according to their idea you still need to charge your phone everyday).
Stop judging Macs on paper, maybe they're actually not powerful enough but you can't know until you buy one and find yourself in a situation that requires more power.
You say: It's pointless
BORG says: It's not
You say: I get it but it's pointless
You're dumb.
i have the macbook, and you use it way more than you think.
You are close to 1M Subscribers which you will be getting soon!
was with him since he did the samsung galaxy young unboxing and honestly fell in love
Dissapointed by everything Apple this year. I'm not upgrading anything this time.
has lost it everything they've done has been a complete joke.The prices are so ridiculous for an under powered machine with lack of ports like who the hell is this mac book designed for?
Brian C Mac book designed for blindfolded Apple fangirl who's doesn't care about specs except for the Camera
Susazeu touchbar is just average