I raided my dead Grandpa's house for old pencils and pens. He had the Bic Round Stic pens from the 90s when they were still made in America and not Mexico. He had tons of old Ticonderogas and Eberhard Fabers. Not in great condition but they write nice.
As a Filipino, it's from this video that I actually realize that the Mongol 482 really is a vintage pencil. Which is really fortunate yet confusing that the most widespread pencil in my country is the Mongol 482 & that they're is still producing them although with a modern touch. Cheers for the video mate!
Recently read an article about counterfeit Mongols being an issue in Phillipines. In that article, I learned the (non Eberhard Faber) Mongol is still produced and very popular in South America. Had no idea!
Been using pencils since 1954 (first grade, a fatter round green pencil they gave to us to use, I wish I could remember the name). Eagle pencils were made in my hometown of Danbury, CT, so the standard pencil we used in school was the Mirado. The eraserless red pencils with metal caps in vermillion and especially carmine red, were widely used by teachers for marking (grading, correcting) student papers. Schools bought them by the gross and kept them in teacher's storage for us to use. The eraserless pencils of the 50s, 60s, 70s, marked as HB, 2H, B, etc. were most commonly used in drafting (draughting) and art where people most commonly used block gum erasers. My drafting classes used lead holders (cold aluminum) with Eagle brand lead of course. As the years wore on, we had to replace the HB ad 2H with Koh-I-Noor leads, but still ha a good supply of Eagle 5H when I retired in 2001. The testing pencils came about with the advent of the optical scan reader grading machine. As teachers, we had to make sure they were sharpened, placed 2 on each desk, and at the end of testing, collected for later use. They were only used for a few years, when the readers were improved to read HB. Then students brought their own HB/No, 2 pencils to the testing site or room.
Back in about 1983 my grandfather got a big box of Blackfeet Sundance pencils that must have had at least 10,000 pencils in it. Whenever my sister and I needed pencils for school my parents would go over there and pick up a few packs. We both went from elementary school through high school without our parents ever needing to spend a dime on pencils. Between the two of us, that accounted for over 20 years of schooling, and we still barely put a dent in that box. They sure don't make them like they used to. One pack of them sells for over $25 now. I imagine the remaining pencils all got thrown away after he passed away and my grandmother sold their house and moved into assisted living. She has since passed, as well. I sure wish I had those pencils now. They could earn me a nice little chunk of change.
From 1900 till date, how many pencils have been produced all over the world? 10 - 50 billion? 100 billion? How many trees is that? Did you use up at least 1000 pencils?
Eagle pencil company was the original name, until they changed it to Berol in 1969. By 1987 it was acquired by the Empire pencil corporation of Tennessee. Then in 1995 Berol was bought by Sanford (a Newel branch or division of some sort).
American grade designations, No. 2 etc., were used alongside the European grade designations going very far back. The American designations were typically for writing (business and school) pencils. The European system HB, B, etc. were generally used for art, drawing and drafting pencils. Both systems were used in parallel within most companies, and the difference just depended on who the pencils were marketed to.
I have a bunch of the Blackfeet Indian Pencils, I grew up using them. My mom and dad lived on the Crow reservation in Lodgegrass Montana, so I think they lived near Browning, I don't know. Anyway, I love pencils. I have a problem, lol,.
+Wood & Graphite just happened to see a tv spot on them onthe tennessee crossroads program. I need to go by and check them out. May be a good road trip
Hi! Do you know the Eberhard Faber Blu-Blak Pencils * 740 MEDIUM *?, I think it is special, it is a pencil but when wetting its graphite it becomes ink, I am curious to know what its functionality was!
I recently purchased a few boxes of 1980s Viking pencils. When I pulled a pencil out I noticed it was very lightly coated in a fine powder. Is this normal for vintage pencils? Have you ever experienced this? If so, do you know what the substance is? Thanks!
I was wondering about Mongol color pencils, eberhard-faber. Set of 24. I was cleaning a room and found them. I bought them in the 60's or 70's. #743. They are hardly used in the stand up box. The can be used with a wet brush. I love them. Nice transparent color. Do u have any info on them They are in green turchois box that opens up so the pencils are sitying right up. Thanks for the video. I have a venus and a black velvet too. Got them in a high end art store.
Where can I get more information on Eberhard Faber , I found a set of pencils and fountain pens in a case. Some say Luckstone and the rest have numbers etc
Hi is Eberhard Faber Kleen-off eraser for offset master plates 41 vintage? I have 5 dozens of it, i am searching for it's background but i found nothing, can you tell me abt it?
I have inherited a box of Venus drawing pencils from my father and I was wondering if they have any monetary value? I also have about 40 dip fountain pens and some very old mechanical pencils, so there is too much to keep it all. Any info that you have would be wonderful, Thanks, Judy
Just spent about an hour reading eraser articles. So companies use secret formulas for their particular eraser. So no help there. Most people like myself just use carpeting, denim or desktops to get the dirt off as well as the hard shine to reactivate an eraser. Pencil plugs aren't worth the effort. So get a big decent eraser instead. Now I want to see how long it takes for a pencil plug to turn to stone! Lol
SorrensSorrow I believe the reason for erasers hardening, is that most vintage pencils had erasers made of latex or natural sources, modern plastic erasers would take much longer if not ever to dry.
You can send them to me. Im from India. (Just joking, I'm happy with my Indian pencils, and some German and Japanese ones. Never tried an American pencil.)
I am going to guess you are from Belfast area in Ireland and you sound like you may have spent a bit of time in Canada or around that accent due to the pronounced o and ou sounds, but i am just guessing. ..... if I wanted to send you a pencil or two how would I accomplish that?
I highly doubt the Musgrave “Test Scoring” pencil is standardized in any way. They just randomly pulled that name out of their a$$. The pencil everyone tells students to use is any pencil as long as it is “no 2”. I own one of these Musgrave Test Scoring pencil and it is much much softer than the No 2. Musgrave pencils are pretty good but the way they nickname their pencils is absolutely arbitrary. For example their 600 News pencils has a thick lead, extremely soft and very black. Not even possible to properly erase because it smudges everywhere like charcoal. It is just a pencil that is very good for art but has nothing to do with “news”.
I raided my dead Grandpa's house for old pencils and pens. He had the Bic Round Stic pens from the 90s when they were still made in America and not Mexico. He had tons of old Ticonderogas and Eberhard Fabers. Not in great condition but they write nice.
Were they Mongols?
I've just recently gotten into pencils and your channel is amazing! You've helped me feed my new addiction/hobby
+PieTheGamer Glad I can help!
As a Filipino, it's from this video that I actually realize that the Mongol 482 really is a vintage pencil.
Which is really fortunate yet confusing that the most widespread pencil in my country is the Mongol 482 & that they're is still producing them although with a modern touch.
Cheers for the video mate!
Recently read an article about counterfeit Mongols being an issue in Phillipines. In that article, I learned the (non Eberhard Faber) Mongol is still produced and very popular in South America. Had no idea!
Been using pencils since 1954 (first grade, a fatter round green pencil they gave to us to use, I wish I could remember the name). Eagle pencils were made in my hometown of Danbury, CT, so the standard pencil we used in school was the Mirado.
The eraserless red pencils with metal caps in vermillion and especially carmine red, were widely used by teachers for marking (grading, correcting) student papers. Schools bought them by the gross and kept them in teacher's storage for us to use.
The eraserless pencils of the 50s, 60s, 70s, marked as HB, 2H, B, etc. were most commonly used in drafting (draughting) and art where people most commonly used block gum erasers. My drafting classes used lead holders (cold aluminum) with Eagle brand lead of course. As the years wore on, we had to replace the HB ad 2H with Koh-I-Noor leads, but still ha a good supply of Eagle 5H when I retired in 2001.
The testing pencils came about with the advent of the optical scan reader grading machine. As teachers, we had to make sure they were sharpened, placed 2 on each desk, and at the end of testing, collected for later use. They were only used for a few years, when the readers were improved to read HB. Then students brought their own HB/No, 2 pencils to the testing site or room.
You're our dealer. You help push our addictions lol
+Takerfan4ever303 *Opens Trench coat full of pencils* "You got the money? I got the stuff!"
Back in about 1983 my grandfather got a big box of Blackfeet Sundance pencils that must have had at least 10,000 pencils in it. Whenever my sister and I needed pencils for school my parents would go over there and pick up a few packs. We both went from elementary school through high school without our parents ever needing to spend a dime on pencils. Between the two of us, that accounted for over 20 years of schooling, and we still barely put a dent in that box. They sure don't make them like they used to. One pack of them sells for over $25 now. I imagine the remaining pencils all got thrown away after he passed away and my grandmother sold their house and moved into assisted living. She has since passed, as well. I sure wish I had those pencils now. They could earn me a nice little chunk of change.
From 1900 till date, how many pencils have been produced all over the world? 10 - 50 billion? 100 billion? How many trees is that? Did you use up at least 1000 pencils?
Would like to see how the Blaisdell Calculator writes, as it’s one of John Steinbeck’s favorite.
The Musgrave test scoring pencils have a softer lead so you don't ruin the paper you're grading if you haven't figured it out yet! :)
Eagle pencil company was the original name, until they changed it to Berol in 1969. By 1987 it was acquired by the Empire pencil corporation of Tennessee. Then in 1995 Berol was bought by Sanford (a Newel branch or division of some sort).
American grade designations, No. 2 etc., were used alongside the European grade designations going very far back. The American designations were typically for writing (business and school) pencils. The European system HB, B, etc. were generally used for art, drawing and drafting pencils. Both systems were used in parallel within most companies, and the difference just depended on who the pencils were marketed to.
The companied Dixon, Eagle(pre-1967)/Berol(1967-present) used to have pencils made in Canada.
Those Blaisdell!!! Damn, SOME beauties!
I have several Blaisdell 523, which is a great dark checking pencil. I also have some Empire #2s.
That's the extent of my classic American pencils.
Never used that pencil for standardized testing in the U.S. Usually were allowed to bring our own, and I always stuck with Dixon Ticonderoga
I like Dixon Ticonderoga, but there's something about them that I don't like. I always really liked the Papermate Classics and Americans.
Nice vintage pencils 👍
I have a bunch of the Blackfeet Indian Pencils, I grew up using them. My mom and dad lived on the Crow reservation in Lodgegrass Montana, so I think they lived near Browning, I don't know. Anyway, I love pencils. I have a problem, lol,.
Love these pencils. Yay Chicago!!!
Help I'm slowly falling into the rabbit hole that is vintage pencil collecting haha
Never heard of that Dixon AERIAL pencil. Looks awesome!
New to pencils, love your channel. Musgrave pencils are made in my home state of Tennessee USA
+Anthonys jigs Shelbyville is Pencil City! Would love to visit sometime
+Wood & Graphite just happened to see a tv spot on them onthe tennessee crossroads program. I need to go by and check them out. May be a good road trip
+Anthonys jigs Absolutely! Let me know if you do (:
Anthony Vaughan Hey my fellow Tennesseer
Love Vintage Art Supplies....
Hi! Do you know the Eberhard Faber Blu-Blak Pencils * 740 MEDIUM *?, I think it is special, it is a pencil but when wetting its graphite it becomes ink, I am curious to know what its functionality was!
I've got a Eberhard Faber, Fabercastell, and one called a Woodgript Phoenix 980 No. 3
Sounds good! I love finding old esoteric pencils
@@WoodGraphite Yeah, that's a good word for it. I've heard of Eberhard Faber but I've never heard of the other ones.
Do you have Mongols?
I recently purchased a few boxes of 1980s Viking pencils. When I pulled a pencil out I noticed it was very lightly coated in a fine powder. Is this normal for vintage pencils? Have you ever experienced this? If so, do you know what the substance is? Thanks!
Hmm, it could be a number of things! Some pencils age well, others doze and crack. I'd clean them off to be safe
That's happened to me too!
I was wondering about Mongol color pencils, eberhard-faber. Set of 24. I was cleaning a room and found them. I bought them in the 60's or 70's. #743. They are hardly used in the stand up box. The can be used with a wet brush. I love them. Nice transparent color. Do u have any info on them They are in green turchois box that opens up so the pencils are sitying right up. Thanks for the video. I have a venus and a black velvet too. Got them in a high end art store.
When he said Mongol my head went to Blazing Saddles "candy gram for mongo"
Where can I get more information on Eberhard Faber , I found a set of pencils and fountain pens in a case. Some say Luckstone and the rest have numbers etc
Try the Erasable Podcast Facebook group
Hi is Eberhard Faber Kleen-off eraser for offset master plates 41 vintage? I have 5 dozens of it, i am searching for it's background but i found nothing, can you tell me abt it?
Blackfeet produced from 1972- late 1990s
+JDvorak2009 Perfect, cheers!
I love mongol pencil. who loves mongol pencil?
Meeeee
You should try the bic wooden pencils made in Mexico with the white eraser
+ared18t Various analog folks (:
I have inherited a box of Venus drawing pencils from my father and I was wondering if they have any monetary value? I also have about 40 dip fountain pens and some very old mechanical pencils, so there is too much to keep it all. Any info that you have would be wonderful, Thanks, Judy
+Judy Beaver To the right person, perhaps £10 - £20 I guess. It's hard to know. I'd imagine the nostalgia value is higher than the financial
Just spent about an hour reading eraser articles. So companies use secret formulas for their particular eraser. So no help there. Most people like myself just use carpeting, denim or desktops to get the dirt off as well as the hard shine to reactivate an eraser. Pencil plugs aren't worth the effort. So get a big decent eraser instead. Now I want to see how long it takes for a pencil plug to turn to stone! Lol
SorrensSorrow I believe the reason for erasers hardening, is that most vintage pencils had erasers made of latex or natural sources, modern plastic erasers would take much longer if not ever to dry.
Starting My shop soon..
Fascinating stuff. I’d like to send you a couple old US pencils, a Galaxy “Hy-Test” Carmine, and a National’s “Fuse-Tex” Corsair 751 Dark Blue.
You can send them to me. Im from India.
(Just joking, I'm happy with my Indian pencils, and some German and Japanese ones. Never tried an American pencil.)
Some how this reminds me to Timmy Turner's dad.
I forgot about that! He worked at that place called Pencil Nexus right?
You use all your pencils or the majority is just collection ?
+Roxy Mendez I try and use everything at least once!
Damn, how much was the whole pack ? (With shipping)
+Nisal Gamage It was a gift from a kind friend! I designed a logo for him, he sent me pencils as a thank you
You call the end an eraser but your accent suggests you would call it a rubber. Why is that?
+GrinderMagee I talk to so many Americans that I pick up the lingo!
+GrinderMagee Follow up question, where do you think my accent is from? Most people get it wrong
I am going to guess you are from Belfast area in Ireland and you sound like you may have spent a bit of time in Canada or around that accent due to the pronounced o and ou sounds, but i am just guessing. ..... if I wanted to send you a pencil or two how would I accomplish that?
I highly doubt the Musgrave “Test Scoring” pencil is standardized in any way. They just randomly pulled that name out of their a$$. The pencil everyone tells students to use is any pencil as long as it is “no 2”. I own one of these Musgrave Test Scoring pencil and it is much much softer than the No 2. Musgrave pencils are pretty good but the way they nickname their pencils is absolutely arbitrary. For example their 600 News pencils has a thick lead, extremely soft and very black. Not even possible to properly erase because it smudges everywhere like charcoal. It is just a pencil that is very good for art but has nothing to do with “news”.
Thanks..A sample writing would have made this a much better video ...
Great feedback Hector, I'll include this next time. Thanks
See, we *can* make good things in the U.S. It is just that greed simply does not allow it.
Does anyone remember the " Indelible Pencil " 🤔🤔🤔
I've heard of the Indelible Copying Pencils.
W.O.W.
Hi can you give me test scoring pencils I want.
Unlikely