That's REALLY SICK. I mean, migrating to a country, then becoming part of a rape and murder spree, then hiding in another country, then studying loopholes in the law to manipulate it and use it to your own advantage, then after getting arrested, you once again use loopholes in the law to manipulate it and use it to your own advantage to keep delaying the trial.
Charles Ng hid out blocks away from where I grew up as a kid in Calgary. I was apparently still in my mothers womb when she would take walks with my two older sisters down in the park where they found his little "camp-out" She got chills, and decided to go back because she had a bad feeling. Mother instincts. Later on he got busted downtown...
Canada is complicit as well because they didn’t want to extradite him because of the death penalty and they thought a can of stolen smoked salmon was more important than justice
The wife and mother pissed me off. They should have charged them with obstruction and more. They told them not to go to the cabin and she goes anyways! She "cleans up" oh yes the ridding of evidence. Our justice system is far from perfect that's for sure.
I thought right when she requested immunity that she was guilty as heck, crazy story stuff like this is why I always lock my doors and windows even though I live in the country
Yes how horrible these two women helped this sick pervert abuse and kill young women for over 20 years… how can someone do that, and at the end he was dead they could have just let police helps the victims families, but nope they went to clean up and refused to help, how sick.
My cousin's roommate was murdered by this pair. They supposedly gave him a job, and he was never heard from again. Also, at the time, I was living in the Sierras right over the mountain from where this all took place. So creepy and so sad.
@@HoneyQuint Not really, people post it because others find it interesting. If you don't, you could always try to be polite & keep it to yourself. Just an idea.
These true crime shows with reenactments are so much more compelling to watch than just RUclips videos of people in front of a camera telling the story.
The monsters say "I love you" to their family, and talk about emotion, but then turn around and had r8 and tortured all these people and killed them. It goes to show man many people say "love" or "freedom" and have no idea what they mean and have no respect for the words.
*One thing that almost we all can agree on is that Leonard's ex-wife, Claralyn was definitely not innocent. She must have had a part (or atleast knowledge) in the torture & murder of the victims.*
Sad if she did She's a murderer just the same. Tge BTK killer was a pillar of the community. His wife had no knowledge. Somehow I think this one did . Its disgusting.
The immunity granted to the wife almost falls into the category of negligence. They got almost no useful information from her and yet it is almost impossible to rule out her knowledge and or participation in the crimes.
@@g0dseye80 she knew, or she wouldn't have went to the cabin and took his mom with her, the night before to "tidy up", and she would've let the detectives in the cinder block out building that morning without a search warrant! Plus she wouldn't have ask for immunity before she was questioned. Also IMO his mom knew too, or she wouldn't have went in the middle of the night, with his ex to "tidy up", which actually means get rid of the damming evidence that would have tied the ex and possibly his mom, to the case! I'm not saying his Mom was involved in killing, kidnapping and torturing any of these people, I'm saying she knew! Which IMO she could have saved lives by going to the law before at least 12 people and BABY'S had been KIDNAPPED, TORTURED, and MURDERED, then thrown away or burned like garbage for nobody ever to find!! 😭
Leonard's wife knew about the murderers at the very least and my gut feeling tells me that she may have participated in the murders. She was cleaning up evidence when she was clearly instructed not to, what more do you need. Her daughter is also complicit in atleast the cover up and tampering with evidence.
I've always wondered why Lakes ex wife wanted immunity before she would talk to the cops? Cuz she said she didn't know about the murders..so WTF did she need immunity from??
I'm pretty sure she knew abt them, in one of the few second long clippings available of the tapes, she says something along the lines of - ' I've seen some 13-15 yr olds and i won't mind watching them doing certain things'. She creeps me out, and the fact that she wasn't punished is really frustrating.
Dude murdered those men, women, and babies BEFORE I was born and he is still sitting in prison waiting for execution. The babies he murdered would have been older than me. I am in 30s with a child of my own now. My entire life has taken place in the amount of time he been allowed to avoid his sentence being carried out.
You should read Ng's prison "bio". He says he loves animals, and the environment, blah, blah. I seriously doubt it. Frightening men, I remember when this happened!
You can thank Gavin Newsome for that. He’s a psychopath who has destroyed California and will continue to destroy this country when he runs for president.
My husbands cousin was one of their victims. His uncle had to watch hundreds of hours worth of tapes to try and find his sons face. They were never the same after this.
I find it unbelievably offensive that baby-killing monsters like this have a loving wife and mother all in the know. And that they even are granted immunity.
The problem is, often without those witness testimonies, it's difficult, sometimes impossible to charge or convict. "Regular dudes" can't get a second look because the majority of regular dudes who get arrested don't hold information that could incriminate someone for a much more severe crime. It's like granting immunity to a car thief because he was the only witness to a murder while he was stealing a car - He likely wouldn't testify otherwise, since it would incriminate him, meaning the murderer could get away.
only because without them, they had a mountain to climb to PROVE guilt without a shadow of a doubt. SO, better to get HIM if that's the ONLY WAY . Better than all getting off ! horrific as that is
I have heard the story of Leanord Lake and Charles Ing many times but I have never seen it with reenactments so detailed that they found the same model and make of car, vise, gun case and gun, actors that look like the people involved. This is really good.
@@drewhempwood2113 I don't think I would be able to bring myself to watch those videos knowing the real people in the videos had died at the hands of those two. It would not be an entire complete snuff film but close enough that I wouldn't be able to do it.
@@joeottsoulbikes415 oh it is awful. I don't recommend it. It's probably definitely traumatized me man lol I have a soft heart. But all of this does. Her asking for her baby will forever haunt me her exact voice.
I definitely see your point and actually agree. Watching any portion even just a second of the real videos I couldn't do it couldn't I couldn't do it not knowing that the people in them actually died. The film since it's just a reenactment of what happened it's kind of a different thing even the sections of film that they shows not the real film it's simply reenactments. I guess the point in doing a reenactment of the film's The Killers took is to show the public just a potential of how horrible those men were. Anytime I watch any of these true crime documentary shows it's hard for me to comprehend even an inkling of what it takes for mine to be so warped to do those things to another human. You would have to be extremely desensitized to the things around you in the world. It always seems to be the people that can do those horrible things and be Killers like that are either from the deep inner city where life is hard and brutal weather from the countryside where they grew up slaughtering chickens and cows and animals around them. By the way you almost have to come from a background where you've seen a dead person or dead animals around you often enough to not care.
I think it’s poetic justice for Ng to have Tanaka as a prosecutor lawyer who is a fierce and intelligent woman to question him and reveal the exact truth about Ng as a co-serial killer to the jury.
How is it possible that your husband, or ex-husband, kidnap and hold eight people captive against their will on your family property and you don't have any notion of it at all?? And why wasn't this woman being looked at more closely? It's her family's property.
She was cunning enough and knew exactly what went on , She was either Complicit, Associated, or Witnessed what went on. So through her Legal representation become immune from prosecution before giving limited information. She knew as did her or his Mother as they went up to clean up the Cabin.
Sociopaths prey on the weak and easily manipulated. She likely felt some relief that he had turned his wrathful attention on someone else, other than her. Do I think she was completely oblivious? No, she was willfully blind, but not oblivious. Do I think she is culpable and should have faced justice? Absolutely. But I also think she was a victim, if a different type, of his.
She knew something was going on there. She knew he was a weapons collector and she must have been in to kinky stuff being married to him and still letting him live in the family house after they were divorced. Did she actually know they were killing people? Not sure but she knew bad stuff was happening there. He must have been paying her with some of stolen money and property.
These 2 were truly sick and dangerous for anyone around them. They fed each other's sicknesses. Think of how many secrets went with him when he took his own life.
THREE. His "ex wife" signed documents for immunity for murder and kidnapping.... she was in on "the miranda project"...... it wasn't just those two his ex wife helped....
He thinks he escaped justice by killing himself but where he went there will be true justice. He will not be able to lie or manipulate his way out of his evil.
All three, in reality. Clara Lyn Balazs was there, too. Then we have the women who managed to survive. I'm sure that they were complicit, as well, but realized that they were getting too close themselves to being victims, and escaped. They were likely the first victims of Leonard Lake, who was still refining his techniques when they were with him, which allowed them to survive.
@@BayMacDre415 Yea, I was thinking on that aspect, too. Went to clean up the cabin, Clara Lyn lived with Leonard Lake's mother... yet was divorced from Leonard Lake. That's a rather WEIRD relationship. So, that tells me that mom was involved, too, but they never connected her.
Hanaka was incredible. Her voice is powerful! Ng is a disgusting creature for toying with the system so much. I think the judge is crazy for letting him fire his attorneys so many times!
Thank you prosecutor for keeping him off the streets for the 12 years it took to bring him to justice. You saved many lives & those lives weren't tortured.
His ex wife was in on it that's why she signed documents for immunity from murder charges and kidnapping... if she was an innocent victim she wouldn't need immunity....
I’m so grateful there are so many super-intelligent people in this country who are willing to take on these horrible jobs and endure such sickening, base, and horrific behaviors men like this and other serial killers think of in their diseased minds and then act on. This includes the detectives, staff involved in scientific evidence gathering and processing, and prosecutors.
@@grant9005 yeah this is true (and it’s good that they do in a situation like this, don’t get me wrong) They get a rush from it. I had considered once a career in forensic biology. But I realized quickly I couldn’t do it. The cadaver tells the story, of their final day and it’s not a happy one.
It's ridiculous how the criminal gets away with as much as they do..oh let's keep delaying and costing the state money, repeatedly!!! It should NOT be allowed
@@borahjones9018 Law Enforcement agencies do NOT speak to each other... watch any cop show and they fight even on tv. Male Ego - God calls a sin "Pride" creates the Devils work...
Yea, I've seen a lot of these serial killer documentaries and this has always stuck in my mind as one of the worst I have seen. Sexual sadists are the most twisted, evil bastards...
The defense attorney really did have a fool for a client. Putting the wife on the stand just to have her look guilty was definitely a move I didn’t see coming. Great documentation of this case
No, its not crazy. It shows pre planning in the event of capture. He was a an organized in his thinking type of killer, unlike his partner in crime Ng.
Love how much depth and info was put into this story. I watched this same case on 2 different channels and they didn't come close to putting as much information as this one did.
Officer "Einstein" was employed for less than one year in 1985. He was also explaining, during a documentary, for those who wouldn't know. He also broke this case wide open by a simple theft investigation.
Ahh, I remember this. I was about 14 and lived in Fremont Ca. When this case broke open and they figured out everything people were seriously blown away. Myself included. Normal people could never imagine something like this ..it's a real life nightmare.
These guys were a horrifying duo. I always feel bad for the people who have to sit on the jury for these trials. Ng fighting so hard against his trial shows what a cowardly murderer he is. Lake's ex-wife must have had some sense of something going on because she knew about the cinder block building enough to seek immunity and lawyer up before it got searched. I don't think she was involved, but she had some kind of knowledge of something going on. She knew Lake and Ng were freaks, at the very least. She was an ex-wife so she obviously wasn't wanting to be married to Lake. This is one of California's most chilling serial killer stories.
I remember this case when I was a teenager living and still living in New York City. It was one of most horrendous and disgusting cases I have ever seen and heard about. It offended me back then in the 1980(s) and still rings in my head every so often and I thought the world had forgotten about this case and I can’t believe it that they made a documentary about it. These people were some sick people even by today’s standards.
I don't remember the case, but we had our own serial killer (BTK) about the same time that lived in the same small community as my family and was trying to get my cousin to meet him under creepy circumstances, possibly to try to kill her
@@StonersAutoService hey , so what would be a good look for the Bay Area , I mean no disrespect , just curious is all .... you don't have to answer that anyway
@@StonersAutoService my bf took me to his hometown and maaaannn is it a Shthole. Like- no offence, it makes me sad to see. I really expected the Bay to be nice but everywhere I turn, there's homeless, tweakers, road rage, needles and trash everywhere! Worse than LA imo because at least LA isn't so compacted with people and buildings. There's some serious corruption going on in those cities...
I don't think even they could believe that he didn't murder anyone. They taped him doing other stuff to the victims, they can't seriously think killing them was beneath him!
Um.. this is all a reenactment. You realize that right? They are all actors. This wasn't the real trial. Do an image search of the real people involved in this case. None of them were in this video except for the few snippets they threw in.
@@jimwerther accessory after the fact at least...I don't now... Jim... that's why people like are are giving out deals like that when simple facts are there and a 5 year old toddler could've figured out. Just saying.
@@Timpon_Dorz Well, Jeez, you're 43 and you haven't got a freaking clue. They gave her immunity on the assumption that she was barely involved and could help them nail Ng and also solve the crimes. That's common sense. It turns out she was far more involved, but they couldn't do anything about it once they gave her immunity, a deal which took place _after_ she interfered with the crime scene. I'm sorry you don't get it. Have a five year old explain it to you.
@@jimwerther ok dunce, she was there to clean up the scene before they gave her the immunity. They should've have arrested her at that point instead of giving her a deal. I know you can't comprehend. You just need a couple more years to grow into understanding common sense.
I had bought this documentary on DVD about 4 years ago, I watched it only one time and tossed it. It was a well-done documentary but I had nightmares after watching it for weeks and still get chills every time I even hear the word Boneyard, like some sort of PTSD. I cannot imagine the devastation/fear/stress the family, friends, and police feel from living it and watching unspeakable things on those tapes.
My channel does true crime and we did a video on the serial killer Maury Travis. He recorded what he did to some of the women he kidnapped and actually listening to the audio is heartbreaking. It's really hard to listen to.
I saw a true crime show about it when i was relatively young and I've never gotten over it. I keep pausing this. I don't know why i clicked on it. This one and the toy box killer story, along with a few others, keep running in my head if i get reminded of them
The most frightening thing is..Serial killers are the everyday people we interact and they hide in plain sight hence committing the killings without being noticed
I'm surprised how many people in the comments thought the actors in this were actually the real people. They showed the real footage and pictures several times to let you know the rest is a reenactment.
I can't believe the wife was granted immunity. It was clear from the start that she was in on it. Driving up to the cabin in the night to 'tidy up' ? That should've been enough to raise suspicion. And BTW, that's a nice toupee the Sheriff is sporting.
And to add to the already chilling story, "calaveras" literally translates to "skulls" in Spanish. So this all took place in "Skulls" County, California
One of my friends lives on Greenfield Ranch where Leonard also lived for a time. This was before he met Charles. Leonard often offered rides to his young daughter when she was going to school. My friend warned his daughter to never ever ride with him. My friend knew there was something off with the guy.
I was 6 in 1985, and I'll never forget the name Charles Ng. It was a huge deal when he was caught here in Calgary, and even as a kid I could tell that it was a major arrest. That Hudson's Bay Company is still in downtown Calgary.
My dad was a Court Of Queen's Bench justice in Calgary for 32 years. He had MANY high profile cases - the largest mass murder in Calgary history at that point - a guy named Russell Rafuse who killed 4 people at a party. The first murder case in Alberta to go ahead without bodies - a guy named Alois Dolejs who took his two kids fishing during his court-ordered visitation and the kids never came back etc. But his highest profile case internationally was Charles Ng's shooting of a security guard at the Bay store who caught him shoplifting. Ng had been camping in Fish Creek park while on the run. He had actually had interaction with some kids that stumbled upon him in the bush. Those kids didn't have any idea how lucky they were to come out of that alive. Anyway, my dad was eventually appointed Associate Chief Justice of Alberta in the late 90's which he grew to hate because it took him off the bench and largely relegated to administration work. He loved the law and the courtroom and lawyers too much to be stuck behind a desk.
The actaul video of his neighbor begging for them to not kill her baby as they mock her and continue to let her know that they are going to kill the baby still haunts me to this day. Its one of the worst things ive ever seen and anytime this case comes up i am reminded of it.
The wife knew more than she let on, she became very nervous, when the police asked about the “fallout torture chamber”. That list of rules applied to her too!! And why ask for immunity if so innocent?🤔
I remember hearing about this case as a young boy. Finding the fact that Ing was kept in a steel cage at trial akin to something out of a movie. It was some 30+ years later I had found myself living in a small cottage with my new girlfriend and her daughter in a small town in the Sierra’s called Wilseyville. The kind of place that a well timed blink could cause you to miss entirely if driving through. I’m not exactly sure what it was that sparked my memory but after a little investigation it came to light that I was living about 2 miles away on the very same road as the property used by Lake and Ing. I’ll never forget the feeling that came over me wen I finally worked up the nerve to drive by the place. The main gate was exactly as it was in the documentaries that can be watched. The No trespassing signs, the heavy chain, everything. I immediately felt like a prey animal who knows the predators are out of his sight but that he is not out of there’s. Needless to say I didn’t stay long...
My mother’s landlords secretary lived next to Charles and Leonard before they got caught and my mothers landlord had told her how she said she had dinner at Charles and Leonards cabin house with her husband a few times and they seemed like sweet, normal people. They never suspected!! So crazy. Guess they were lucky they weren’t also victims.
@Phyllis I have to agree! He did a great job by not giving up and taking him down! I don't care "how small" others think Charles was, IMO, he was a larger man and most likely very strong! Kudos to the security guard!
Lake did horrendous wicked things to his victims and the coward in him took the easy way out. Truly evil man the wife is a piece of work. Greetings from the UK 🇬🇧.
Its not really cowardly though he chose death over incarceration , from what i gather its a painful death imagine sitting there with the pill in hand knowing you are about to die and face judgment Cowardly is overused its selfish
@@iamamoghalfmanhalfdog5325 it is cowardly though. He died on his own terms and didn't face the consequences of his actions. He chose a short painful death then face a lifetime of prison or even the death penalty.
@@stormbreak7003 its not really cowardly though why would he want to go to prison its not a question of fear its a choice of death over a crappy future. Cowards don't murder or commit suicide its a ridiculous thing people parrot that makes no sense
"Then I did something very clever. I made what looked like a bookcase, only for tools and things, out of some old wood and fitted it with wooden latches in the doorway, so that if you gave a casual look it just seemed that it was an old recess fitted up with shelves. You lifted it out and there was the door through." The Collector, p.25 It's eerie to read first 33 pages of The Collector, knowing Lake read it and clearly followed parts of it to the letter.
Charles Ng and Leonard are two sociopaths. This is evident from disturbing events of their childhood. Ng is very brilliant and thus used his brilliance to manipulate the justice system. The ex wife is well aware of the killings and may have participated in the crimes.
@@kurtbrewski7050 At that point he was emboldened and arrogant - common traits of sociopaths that often get them caught. But it's a good thing that stupid little mistake got him caught.
I have a feeling it’s more the brilliance of his lawyers. Dad was a businessman and I guess he might have inherited by that point. Still, kleptomania and arrogance is not incompatible with brilliance
Damn, a criminal, a murderer, was treated better than his victims. Just how incompetent this justice system was to allow that criminal to get the better of them? Just utter incompetence for allowing the criminal to delay proceedings thus wasting resources and taxpayers' money. 🙄
@@sonogabri1 😂Do you know how many mental health issues begin with small things like vitamin deficiency? Sorry, Dawg. There's no way around it. Most tragedies like these would be prevented if we cared...if socualism worked....if lazy people would stop being lazy....😂
I'm so annoyed that I already know this story legit I know all of them it seems like I'm only in a min and it's the story about the again guy and his friend who go and murder women in a dungeon on a farm like wtf why do I know all of them
Good thing he was trained to tell that was a silencer because anyone under the age of 6 might not realize that. Also props to him for responding to a theft under lights and siren.
It was actually dispatched as a "robbery in progress" as the 911 caller informed the operator a potential accomplice was still on site and becoming belligerent with employees; lights and sirens completely justified lol...
Never having heard of this case, not knowing anything about the outcome, this is the WILDEST. RIDE. EVER. And then the juror said they were deadlocked .... On one count. Prosecutor and defense attorney are BOTH geniuses. I mean I hate to say it, but if I'm ever on trial, I want that guy defending me. Calling the wife to the stand, reading her immunity agreement, and "no questions." That was brilliant. BRILLIANT. If Ng hadn't insisted on testifying, I think he'd have gotten off.
There are many thousands of them. Worldwide maybe millions out of 10 billion people. Who knows for sure. Everyone thinks serial killers are just an American thing but we are just a lil more wise to them.
Yesss and I wonder why they not told us about this case before??? When old hidden “ story popping up it always have a reason…. In this case the reason is..????? If someone find out please tell me. And I don’t like to hear guessing 🤓it’s not a game going on.!! Facts.
@@mariawestman9026 I've heard this one before, years ago. My guess is they are just bringing it back up for people who forgot or havnt heard about it before. I kind of forgot about this one but all their faces looked so familiar.
Lmao what? The women they made an immunity agreement with (for which they got little information) sitting as witness for the defense AND not being able to cross examine her? That was a massive hit to the prosecution.
Killing babies is so sick! The video of the poor mom pleading for her baby is horrible. These poor people in many cases knew and probably trusted these maniacs. The terror they all went through breaks my heart.
It’s so creepy to think that when they replayed the disgusting videos in court Ng got to relive the event one last time. I feel like they shouldn’t be able to watch the videos they made so they can’t enjoy it.
Makes me feel a bit queasy listening to what these animals did to innocent people… especially the babies! Tough guys while people were handcuffed but when they were handcuffed they were cowards! One killed himself and the other just reminded me of a spoiled, entitled brat!
This case is so evil, almost beyond compare..How sick, sadistic and twisted were the actions of Lake and Ng? ..I shudder to think just how long this bizarre folie a deux would’ve carried on if Ng didn’t get caught shoplifting..I’m not at all surprised Balazs cut a deal to save herself and to think she’d probably be free by now?
i dont understand what you mean by "she'd probably be free by now"... i thought immunity meant that she didnt get charged with anything at all and therefore was already out there being "oblivious" to her new partners murder spree
I cannot really understand how people can commit such acts of pure evil. I know it is apart of us as human beings but, I really wish these sorts of events did not happen. I understand in reviewing these cases why women are scared of men. All I can do in my life is try to be an example a good man a defender of women and the helpless. Real men stand up to this sort of evil.
It's often a gradual thing. Nearly always a toxic nurture growing up or some really messed up genetics, like a wolf. I believe most people are actually capable of committing these acts, but ofcourse and thankfully they rarely get to these extremes.
Atrocities beyond anything committed by any of the worst of the worst serial killers. There is something horrifically unique about guys with no qualms about abducting and murdering 2 couples and their infant children. Then you have the additional cruelty of sexually savaging the women on camera, the victims knowing that their rapes will be watched many times after they’re dead. Both mothers tortured and raped in a tiny prison while simultaneously enduring the agony of knowing or suspecting their babies were dead. I’ve never heard of even War Atrocities as extreme as that.
@@Stevekixs it was in his diary/journal/manifesto. Whatever you want to call it. I'd advise "Die for Me" by Don Lasseter who covered the case extensively.
The only problem I have with the death penalty is the waiting procedure. If your deemed 100% guilty enough to get the death penalty you need to go from the courtroom to the injection immediately. Pointless to make everyone wait. It’s not the death penalty it’s the waiting in jail penalty. Which does not include the prisoner dying but prolongs his life and makes the tax payers continue to pay their way through life.
I see what you are saying in certain cases, but there have been many instances in which death row inmates have been exonerated because they have been wrongly sentenced. So an immediate lethal injection might mean that even more innocent people could be killed before they have a chance for the real perpetrator to be caught and tried
I can't believe how long they got away with this. The neighbors go missing? The brother goes missing? The friends go missing? These people were all undeniably linked to these two guys. Took way too long to search the property. It looks like a dump, some states protect their criminals too well. I guess innocent civilians' lives don't matter much in California.
The way the lawyer attempted to attack the victims of this case that survived is disgusting and it's not surprising. That guy was trying to hard to win at any cost. Nauseating.
Frightening guy that Charles Ng - I've met him early in my career. I was only the resident radiologist. Around 1987, in Canada, I am the doctor that did his upper GI series. Prince Albert Saskatchewan is where the real bad guys are in Canada. An expert in delaying things. They had to have one guard for each limb! (so he wouldn't flee custody while having medical complaints at the hospital.) Believe it or not he was quite well behaved when he wanted to be. There's a guy even worse if you can believe it. Criminal XYZ or maybe XYYYYYY was mad at a Prince Albert jail guard, knew where he lived came to his place of residence when on a day pass and chopped him apart - an axe murderer. The quadraplegic roommate who had witnessed the murder then had his face chopped apart by the axe murderer. Believe it or not he lived to go to the hospital, brain still intact, face gone. Now the axe murderer was going to come to the hospital to finish the job on the wards. I well remember being on CT call the night of the hospital lockdown. This stuff is so terrifying if you made a movie about it-- the audience wouldn't even believe it.....but the truth is far more terrifying than fiction.!!! Dr. Jim Watt
I remember this (or something like it) from years ago. As soon as I heard Ng's name I knew, though I didn't remember all the details. I also think Balazs was suspicious, as was Leonard's mother to a degree but she could have just been listening to Balazs.
My brother used to buy pot from Lenard when he lived on & off in South San Francisco with his mom, this was in the late 70s. I’ve always been curious to know what his mom & ex-wife took out of the cabin the night before the police got there.
@Byndas I wonder the same thing! IMO they both knew what had happened, that Leonard had raped, tortured, and murdered people there, then had disposed of their bodies there on the property! Of course his ex knew or she wouldn't have ask for immunity and gotten it! IMO she should have spent many years in prison as well, then had to do community service everyday for the rest of her life!
You seem, like the only one that was interested His wife should have went to jail, for tapering with evident. She claim, she did not feel like going , that night, with the Police. However, she went with his Mom that night.
@@ViewByRay I’d but NG & Lake over either one of those couples. Although it close Between Lake & Bittaker. I’d list my top 3 most sadistic as Lake, David Parker Ray, Bittaker
Yikes. I was there when the security guard took down Charles Ing in the Hudson Bay store in Calgary, Alberta , Canada. I didn't realize at the time what was happening, until it was on the 6 o'clock news. He was one sicko. I shudder to think what they were going to use the vise for.
It's still pisses me off that the wife got immunity even though she knew what was going on or participated in those horrible acts.
Agreed,,, very likely also destroyed evidence-
@@ambroulard I mean she did immediately get spooked when they found evidence despite her "cleaning"
I'm agree why she refused the key
Woman always have it easy in this criminal justice system. Patriarchy SMH...
They had enough physical evidence! Why would they bargain with her ? Prosecutor not competent enough
That's REALLY SICK. I mean, migrating to a country, then becoming part of a rape and murder spree, then hiding in another country, then studying loopholes in the law to manipulate it and use it to your own advantage, then after getting arrested, you once again use loopholes in the law to manipulate it and use it to your own advantage to keep delaying the trial.
Not so dumb 😳🤔
@@janetrawlings1691 it's easy to get away with crimes when the law is THIS incompetent and stupid
That just shows how weak the justice system is! If criminals had severe penalties- only a few would do crime.
That what happens with life long crims.
Welcome to USA democrat
Charles Ng hid out blocks away from where I grew up as a kid in Calgary. I was apparently still in my mothers womb when she would take walks with my two older sisters down in the park where they found his little "camp-out" She got chills, and decided to go back because she had a bad feeling. Mother instincts. Later on he got busted downtown...
Im in Red Deer and remember this very well, it was National news that this psycho was in Canada on the run. Scary times.
I was in the Hudson Bay and saw it when they got him.
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Canada is complicit as well because they didn’t want to extradite him because of the death penalty and they thought a can of stolen smoked salmon was more important than justice
@ love cats 😱 did you know like, who he was?that's bananas!!! It's good they got that thing.
The wife and mother pissed me off. They should have charged them with obstruction and more. They told them not to go to the cabin and she goes anyways! She "cleans up" oh yes the ridding of evidence. Our justice system is far from perfect that's for sure.
Illuminati justice
If it were a warrant search instead of voluntary then they probably would’ve prosecuted. Still sucks
I thought right when she requested immunity that she was guilty as heck, crazy story stuff like this is why I always lock my doors and windows even though I live in the country
Yes how horrible these two women helped this sick pervert abuse and kill young women for over 20 years… how can someone do that, and at the end he was dead they could have just let police helps the victims families, but nope they went to clean up and refused to help, how sick.
Can you legally stop somebody from going to their property without even having a warrant?
Serial killer evades state police, FBI, RCMP and gets stopped by a mall security guard. That's incredible!
Ted Bundy got caught by a traffic cop. Three times. Funny how arrests like this can come from the most easily overlooked sources
Stop this right now 😅😅
Mall security guards are an underrated untapped resource for our national security.
Kudos to the police officers who arrested Leonard for the stolen vice and impounded the car. Without that this may never have happened.
My cousin's roommate was murdered by this pair. They supposedly gave him a job, and he was never heard from again. Also, at the time, I was living in the Sierras right over the mountain from where this all took place. So creepy and so sad.
thats terrible. pure devils.
I can't imagine. ❤
Txts like this are attention seeking
@@HoneyQuint Not really, people post it because others find it interesting. If you don't, you could always try to be polite & keep it to yourself. Just an idea.
@@HoneyQuint no it is not!! Yours is!!
These true crime shows with reenactments are so much more compelling to watch than just RUclips videos of people in front of a camera telling the story.
The monsters say "I love you" to their family, and talk about emotion, but then turn around and had r8 and tortured all these people and killed them. It goes to show man many people say "love" or "freedom" and have no idea what they mean and have no respect for the words.
There's absolutely no way Leonard's ex wife, Claralyn Balazs wasn't part of this whole thing. She was weird from the very beginning.
Agree
being weird isn't a crime though
@@Prince-jb7pv Right! and she is still out there roaming!
@@phyllisyovone8961 IDK killers keep secrets sometimes...
@@Prince-jb7pv I'm not in jail and I'm pretty weird.
It's scary to think people like this are out there right now looking to destroy lives.
What is worse is that many of those they killed are referred to as being “friends”. To have such a monster as a friend and not know it.
🤔🤐
also watching this doc and commenting at the same time
Purewonka@ indeed!
@@mariamab.8126 me too xx
*One thing that almost we all can agree on is that Leonard's ex-wife, Claralyn was definitely not innocent. She must have had a part (or atleast knowledge) in the torture & murder of the victims.*
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@FIND HIM it's not about her to be witness , she need to be in the prison
@Get w/the New Age i didn’t mean to comment 😭😭
I can also get the money
Sad if she did She's a murderer just the same. Tge BTK killer was a pillar of the community. His wife had no knowledge. Somehow I think this one did . Its disgusting.
The best thing this guy could've done was to take the stand . Love it when criminals think they can explain anything and people will believe them.
He knew damn well that he would never get off- he was simply wasting time and money on purpose, from day one.
It makes me mad to and they knock charges off to make a deal
@@rpmcmurphey927 they only had circumstantial evidence, thats it! Nothing to connect him to the fantasy world the other guy created.
Check out the video of Ronnie O'Neal attempting to represent himself if you haven't already. Absolute dumpster fire. 😂
Like Anthony Todt. Watch him take the stand on RUclips. He comes off so unlikable and cocky.
The immunity granted to the wife almost falls into the category of negligence. They got almost no useful information from her and yet it is almost impossible to rule out her knowledge and or participation in the crimes.
Hindsight is 20/20. The priority at that moment was nailing down the two killers.
It doesn't sound like they had anything approaching evidence against her, either. It was a gamble that didn't pay off.
there is also no proof she knew. u cant put her in jail because u think she did.
@@g0dseye80 she knew, or she wouldn't have went to the cabin and took his mom with her, the night before to "tidy up", and she would've let the detectives in the cinder block out building that morning without a search warrant! Plus she wouldn't have ask for immunity before she was questioned. Also IMO his mom knew too, or she wouldn't have went in the middle of the night, with his ex to "tidy up", which actually means get rid of the damming evidence that would have tied the ex and possibly his mom, to the case! I'm not saying his Mom was involved in killing, kidnapping and torturing any of these people, I'm saying she knew! Which IMO she could have saved lives by going to the law before at least 12 people and BABY'S had been KIDNAPPED, TORTURED, and MURDERED, then thrown away or burned like garbage for nobody ever to find!! 😭
@@TurkeyCreekGal ya i made that comment b4 i watched it. 🙄🙄
Leonard's wife knew about the murderers at the very least and my gut feeling tells me that she may have participated in the murders.
She was cleaning up evidence when she was clearly instructed not to, what more do you need.
Her daughter is also complicit in atleast the cover up and tampering with evidence.
Shes IN their videos... And she's roaming free.
@@crookedfingersgirl7356 Justice system...... More like injustice system.
Spitting in face of victims is considered justice by these corrupt people.
I've always wondered why Lakes ex wife wanted immunity before she would talk to the cops? Cuz she said she didn't know about the murders..so WTF did she need immunity from??
Helping a fugitive is a crime. She was also aware of other crimes they had committed.
@Jennifer Brown
Is that a serious question? Would you talk to the cops under that circumstance without immunity?
I'm pretty sure she knew abt them, in one of the few second long clippings available of the tapes, she says something along the lines of - ' I've seen some 13-15 yr olds and i won't mind watching them doing certain things'. She creeps me out, and the fact that she wasn't punished is really frustrating.
Exactly correct...she knew everything
Exactly correct...she knew everything
Dude murdered those men, women, and babies BEFORE I was born and he is still sitting in prison waiting for execution.
The babies he murdered would have been older than me.
I am in 30s with a child of my own now. My entire life has taken place in the amount of time he been allowed to avoid his sentence being carried out.
🤬🤬🤬🤬 heartbreaking
You should read Ng's prison "bio".
He says he loves animals, and the environment, blah, blah.
I seriously doubt it.
Frightening men, I remember when this happened!
That's California for you.
You can thank Gavin Newsome for that. He’s a psychopath who has destroyed California and will continue to destroy this country when he runs for president.
Ng be needing the E chair .he,s Burning
Kudos to the actors and members of the creative teams on the re-enactments. Quite well done and they really help tell the story.
Lol dude I thought it was the actual case being filmed. Congrats to all the actors. Could’ve fooled me
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Agree!
Agree 100%! Superior acting by all! 😎👍
That was actual real court room footage.
My husbands cousin was one of their victims. His uncle had to watch hundreds of hours worth of tapes to try and find his sons face. They were never the same after this.
Terrible 😢
Nobody should have to go through that. So heartbreaking
So sorry for your family's loss. What a terrible thing.🙏❤
God bless the victim’s families
that haunts you for the rest of your life
I think this is one of the most terrifying stories I’ve ever seen involving serial killers.
I find it unbelievably offensive that baby-killing monsters like this have a loving wife and mother all in the know. And that they even are granted immunity.
That truly pissed me off smh there's no way they should've gotten immunity
And us regular dudes can’t get a second look lol
The problem is, often without those witness testimonies, it's difficult, sometimes impossible to charge or convict. "Regular dudes" can't get a second look because the majority of regular dudes who get arrested don't hold information that could incriminate someone for a much more severe crime. It's like granting immunity to a car thief because he was the only witness to a murder while he was stealing a car - He likely wouldn't testify otherwise, since it would incriminate him, meaning the murderer could get away.
only because without them, they had a mountain to climb to PROVE guilt without a shadow of a doubt. SO, better to get HIM if that's the ONLY WAY . Better than all getting off ! horrific as that is
Crazy :(
The prosecutor making him trip up on his own lies is legendary.
I have heard the story of Leanord Lake and Charles Ing many times but I have never seen it with reenactments so detailed that they found the same model and make of car, vise, gun case and gun, actors that look like the people involved. This is really good.
Well there's real video available , clips of the videos Leonard taped of the victims
@@drewhempwood2113 I don't think I would be able to bring myself to watch those videos knowing the real people in the videos had died at the hands of those two. It would not be an entire complete snuff film but close enough that I wouldn't be able to do it.
@@joeottsoulbikes415 oh it is awful. I don't recommend it. It's probably definitely traumatized me man lol I have a soft heart. But all of this does. Her asking for her baby will forever haunt me her exact voice.
I definitely see your point and actually agree. Watching any portion even just a second of the real videos I couldn't do it couldn't I couldn't do it not knowing that the people in them actually died. The film since it's just a reenactment of what happened it's kind of a different thing even the sections of film that they shows not the real film it's simply reenactments. I guess the point in doing a reenactment of the film's The Killers took is to show the public just a potential of how horrible those men were. Anytime I watch any of these true crime documentary shows it's hard for me to comprehend even an inkling of what it takes for mine to be so warped to do those things to another human.
You would have to be extremely desensitized to the things around you in the world. It always seems to be the people that can do those horrible things and be Killers like that are either from the deep inner city where life is hard and brutal weather from the countryside where they grew up slaughtering chickens and cows and animals around them. By the way you almost have to come from a background where you've seen a dead person or dead animals around you often enough to not care.
The vise sounds sick. Can you imagine the torture done by Lake and Ing?
I think it’s poetic justice for Ng to have Tanaka as a prosecutor lawyer who is a fierce and intelligent woman to question him and reveal the exact truth about Ng as a co-serial killer to the jury.
How is it possible that your husband, or ex-husband, kidnap and hold eight people captive against their will on your family property and you don't have any notion of it at all?? And why wasn't this woman being looked at more closely? It's her family's property.
She was cunning enough and knew exactly what went on , She was either Complicit, Associated, or Witnessed what went on. So through her Legal representation become immune from prosecution before giving limited information. She knew as did her or his Mother as they went up to clean up the Cabin.
Sociopaths prey on the weak and easily manipulated. She likely felt some relief that he had turned his wrathful attention on someone else, other than her. Do I think she was completely oblivious? No, she was willfully blind, but not oblivious. Do I think she is culpable and should have faced justice? Absolutely. But I also think she was a victim, if a different type, of his.
yea, I get static for throwing some additional logs on the bbq and staying out and having a few more beers past 11pm.
She knew something was going on there. She knew he was a weapons collector and she must have been in to kinky stuff being married to him and still letting him live in the family house after they were divorced. Did she actually know they were killing people? Not sure but she knew bad stuff was happening there. He must have been paying her with some of stolen money and property.
These 2 were truly sick and dangerous for anyone around them. They fed each other's sicknesses. Think of how many secrets went with him when he took his own life.
THREE.
His "ex wife" signed documents for immunity for murder and kidnapping.... she was in on "the miranda project"...... it wasn't just those two his ex wife helped....
Yea, you mean to say THREE. FOUR if you include the grandma, who went along to clean up the evidence with the daughter.
He thinks he escaped justice by killing himself but where he went there will be true justice. He will not be able to lie or manipulate his way out of his evil.
All three, in reality. Clara Lyn Balazs was there, too. Then we have the women who managed to survive. I'm sure that they were complicit, as well, but realized that they were getting too close themselves to being victims, and escaped. They were likely the first victims of Leonard Lake, who was still refining his techniques when they were with him, which allowed them to survive.
@@BayMacDre415 Yea, I was thinking on that aspect, too. Went to clean up the cabin, Clara Lyn lived with Leonard Lake's mother... yet was divorced from Leonard Lake. That's a rather WEIRD relationship. So, that tells me that mom was involved, too, but they never connected her.
Hanaka was incredible. Her voice is powerful! Ng is a disgusting creature for toying with the system so much. I think the judge is crazy for letting him fire his attorneys so many times!
Thank you prosecutor for keeping him off the streets for the 12 years it took to bring him to justice. You saved many lives & those lives weren't tortured.
You think you could've done better? Effing captain hind sight.
@@Timpon_Dorz I think he is being genuine
His ex wife was in on it that's why she signed documents for immunity from murder charges and kidnapping... if she was an innocent victim she wouldn't need immunity....
Strong Sarcasm.
@@Timpon_Dorz what the heck is up with your hateful comment??
I’m so grateful there are so many super-intelligent people in this country who are willing to take on these horrible jobs and endure such sickening, base, and horrific behaviors men like this and other serial killers think of in their diseased minds and then act on. This includes the detectives, staff involved in scientific evidence gathering and processing, and prosecutors.
Some people like it tho
I'm grateful also Ng was so stupid to shoplift with a warrant out on him!
I am so glad you are not supportive of "Defund the police" movement.
What do you mean by base? Just curious.
@@grant9005 yeah this is true (and it’s good that they do in a situation like this, don’t get me wrong) They get a rush from it.
I had considered once a career in forensic biology. But I realized quickly I couldn’t do it. The cadaver tells the story, of their final day and it’s not a happy one.
I admire the family members that pushed through this trial. Especially the ones testifying. This is insanity.
It's ridiculous how the criminal gets away with as much as they do..oh let's keep delaying and costing the state money, repeatedly!!! It should NOT be allowed
What surprises me is that Ng was close to a few murders that happened before this and no law enforcement could put 2+2 together.
Its the Prosecutors EGO's that dont let it go...& they cant
@@borahjones9018 Law Enforcement agencies do NOT speak to each other... watch any cop show and they fight even on tv. Male Ego - God calls a sin "Pride" creates the Devils work...
They leave the arsehole alone in the interrogation room where there is a camera that obviously nobody was checking what he was doing? Nice work
Two of the most terrifying serial killers I have ever heard of
I think thier worst then them trust lol
@@lovelife7278 I don't not when it comes to the way men, women and children was brutally tortured by them both in that creepy cabin
Yea, I've seen a lot of these serial killer documentaries and this has always stuck in my mind as one of the worst I have seen. Sexual sadists are the most twisted, evil bastards...
2?... you don't believe the wife was in on it?
@@amyschildgamerlive4519 yes I do definitely
The defense attorney really did have a fool for a client. Putting the wife on the stand just to have her look guilty was definitely a move I didn’t see coming. Great documentation of this case
I had hoped that action would've put a bullseye on her back.
To think Lake carried cyanide capsules around on him is crazy.
If only Ng had done the same thing could have saved a lot of time and money.
But so glad he did 🤣
No, its not crazy. It shows pre planning in the event of capture. He was a an organized in his thinking type of killer, unlike his partner in crime Ng.
@@ButtSauceversion1 - seriously, though. Would’ve saved taxpayers millions.
Too bad Ng didn't. They had the tapes and bodies.
Love how much depth and info was put into this story. I watched this same case on 2 different channels and they didn't come close to putting as much information as this one did.
This is an old professional T.v. show. Thats why.
Thank You for your comments. YOUR Comment/Review made Me Watch It & you were so right!!!
Thank You!!
And this is why I can watch the same story told many times🙂
Glad I read that as I ve seen the case on numerous utube channels, only I found their wasn't enough info.
@@michelleburt3468 yes not a cheep sky TV or freeview channel program this is the real deal
“I determined, through my training, that it was a silencer.” Officer Einstein
I know I couldn’t stop thinking about too
haha yes must have been some pretty difficult training for him to figure that out
@@harrydobell9629 hu Jun b😮😮😮😮😅😅 😊😊 kilo😮😮❤❤
Officer "Einstein" was employed for less than one year in 1985. He was also explaining, during a documentary, for those who wouldn't know. He also broke this case wide open by a simple theft investigation.
@@buckmelanoma2200 you got some on the corner of your mouth. Did you know?
that poor mother and her innocent little baby😰😭💔
Ahh, I remember this. I was about 14 and lived in Fremont Ca. When this case broke open and they figured out everything people were seriously blown away. Myself included. Normal people could never imagine something like this ..it's a real life nightmare.
Me too Santa Clara these guys are the worst of the worst
i was murdered by him
@@Tom-vl8kk I was the knife he used
@@5kr3aminMunk33 noo =(
These guys were a horrifying duo. I always feel bad for the people who have to sit on the jury for these trials. Ng fighting so hard against his trial shows what a cowardly murderer he is. Lake's ex-wife must have had some sense of something going on because she knew about the cinder block building enough to seek immunity and lawyer up before it got searched. I don't think she was involved, but she had some kind of knowledge of something going on. She knew Lake and Ng were freaks, at the very least. She was an ex-wife so she obviously wasn't wanting to be married to Lake. This is one of California's most chilling serial killer stories.
Most of the time I forgot that its an enactment. These actors and the way these enactments are directed is just fantastic.
I remember this case when I was a teenager living and still living in New York City. It was one of most horrendous and disgusting cases I have ever seen and heard about. It offended me back then in the 1980(s) and still rings in my head every so often and I thought the world had forgotten about this case and I can’t believe it that they made a documentary about it. These people were some sick people even by today’s standards.
I don't remember the case, but we had our own serial killer (BTK) about the same time that lived in the same small community as my family and was trying to get my cousin to meet him under creepy circumstances, possibly to try to kill her
@@MikeBarbarossa Wow. How frightening. Will your cousin grant an interview or write a book someday?
yeah its crazy because i live in the Bay Area not a good look for our area):
@@StonersAutoService hey , so what would be a good look for the Bay Area , I mean no disrespect , just curious is all .... you don't have to answer that anyway
@@StonersAutoService my bf took me to his hometown and maaaannn is it a Shthole. Like- no offence, it makes me sad to see. I really expected the Bay to be nice but everywhere I turn, there's homeless, tweakers, road rage, needles and trash everywhere! Worse than LA imo because at least LA isn't so compacted with people and buildings. There's some serious corruption going on in those cities...
I cant even imagine being a defender for this monster.
A barrister cant pounce fast enough at the opportunity though. so be satisfied that you're not a monster.
I don't think even they could believe that he didn't murder anyone. They taped him doing other stuff to the victims, they can't seriously think killing them was beneath him!
I farted
Yep,I'd pass on that one
Defense attorney is the proper term. Ng is the defendant.
That prosecution lawyer is incredible to watch, she's so professional and collected. Mad respect.
Um.. this is all a reenactment. You realize that right? They are all actors. This wasn't the real trial. Do an image search of the real people involved in this case. None of them were in this video except for the few snippets they threw in.
@@JakeKoenig omg thank you, that makes so much sense 😭 I like to think I've gotten better at not taking things at face value since I commented this!
Should've arrested the ex wife too for accessory.
After she received immunity? How does that work?
@@jimwerther prior to given her immunity... the fact that are went there to tidy up is accessory.
@@jimwerther accessory after the fact at least...I don't now... Jim... that's why people like are are giving out deals like that when simple facts are there and a 5 year old toddler could've figured out.
Just saying.
@@Timpon_Dorz
Well, Jeez, you're 43 and you haven't got a freaking clue. They gave her immunity on the assumption that she was barely involved and could help them nail Ng and also solve the crimes. That's common sense. It turns out she was far more involved, but they couldn't do anything about it once they gave her immunity, a deal which took place _after_ she interfered with the crime scene.
I'm sorry you don't get it. Have a five year old explain it to you.
@@jimwerther ok dunce, she was there to clean up the scene before they gave her the immunity. They should've have arrested her at that point instead of giving her a deal.
I know you can't comprehend. You just need a couple more years to grow into understanding common sense.
I had bought this documentary on DVD about 4 years ago, I watched it only one time and tossed it. It was a well-done documentary but I had nightmares after watching it for weeks and still get chills every time I even hear the word Boneyard, like some sort of PTSD. I cannot imagine the devastation/fear/stress the family, friends, and police feel from living it and watching unspeakable things on those tapes.
My channel does true crime and we did a video on the serial killer Maury Travis. He recorded what he did to some of the women he kidnapped and actually listening to the audio is heartbreaking. It's really hard to listen to.
I saw a true crime show about it when i was relatively young and I've never gotten over it. I keep pausing this. I don't know why i clicked on it. This one and the toy box killer story, along with a few others, keep running in my head if i get reminded of them
@@TheTwinFiles I know ! When someone bought his old house and found out what happened there, they moved immediately
@@TheTwinFiles I could only watch the Maury Travis doc once..chilling and horrifying
And yet, here you are again
The most frightening thing is..Serial killers are the everyday people we interact and they hide in plain sight hence committing the killings without being noticed
I'm surprised how many people in the comments thought the actors in this were actually the real people. They showed the real footage and pictures several times to let you know the rest is a reenactment.
People dont like to pay attention apparently.
@Sharon 20 y.o - check my vidéó stfu bot
Same people who watch all the RUclips pranks and believe it’s all real, i call them sheep.
shout out to the production team
People generally aren’t too bright
I can't believe the wife was granted immunity. It was clear from the start that she was in on it. Driving up to the cabin in the night to 'tidy up' ? That should've been enough to raise suspicion. And BTW, that's a nice toupee the Sheriff is sporting.
Very nice to me!! Haha👌
The toupee is epic
agreed! quite apart from his being a decent cop, he ought to be applauded for carrying it off with ablomb... 👍🏽👨🏻🦱
And to add to the already chilling story, "calaveras" literally translates to "skulls" in Spanish. So this all took place in "Skulls" County, California
One of my friends lives on Greenfield Ranch where Leonard also lived for a time. This was before he met Charles. Leonard often offered rides to his young daughter when she was going to school. My friend warned his daughter to never ever ride with him. My friend knew there was something off with the guy.
Maybe serial killers have feelings when you dig deep enough or maybe not.
@@hairlikewool.1435 he doesn’t deserve such soul- searching
@@hairlikewool.1435 You're quoting Richard Ramirez.
@LOLFIELDANDLOVE hey man love your work, i like your work on Lake and Ng, continue this serie please, dig the rabbit hole, happy new year Patrick
I was 6 in 1985, and I'll never forget the name Charles Ng. It was a huge deal when he was caught here in Calgary, and even as a kid I could tell that it was a major arrest. That Hudson's Bay Company is still in downtown Calgary.
I remember that too.
I was there at that store and saw it happen.
I lived in calgary a couple of years ago. Was it the store in the core (I think that's what it was called) off 6th ave
@@SuperMcbonez Near there, 7th ave and 1st SW
My dad was a Court Of Queen's Bench justice in Calgary for 32 years. He had MANY high profile cases - the largest mass murder in Calgary history at that point - a guy named Russell Rafuse who killed 4 people at a party. The first murder case in Alberta to go ahead without bodies - a guy named Alois Dolejs who took his two kids fishing during his court-ordered visitation and the kids never came back etc. But his highest profile case internationally was Charles Ng's shooting of a security guard at the Bay store who caught him shoplifting. Ng had been camping in Fish Creek park while on the run. He had actually had interaction with some kids that stumbled upon him in the bush. Those kids didn't have any idea how lucky they were to come out of that alive. Anyway, my dad was eventually appointed Associate Chief Justice of Alberta in the late 90's which he grew to hate because it took him off the bench and largely relegated to administration work. He loved the law and the courtroom and lawyers too much to be stuck behind a desk.
You know when you hear this narrator, it's about to be good
The actaul video of his neighbor begging for them to not kill her baby as they mock her and continue to let her know that they are going to kill the baby still haunts me to this day. Its one of the worst things ive ever seen and anytime this case comes up i am reminded of it.
Yupp...
Wheres the video?
Same here 💔
I hate them so much.
Also hate the wife and mother of Lake, for covering for him.
Oh god. That's not in this documentary right, they would have age restricted it.
I don't think I could handle, I'm only half way through.
Will Lymon, a top narrator. Right up there with Mike Wallace, Rod Sterling, et al.
The wife knew more than she let on, she became very nervous, when the police asked about the “fallout torture chamber”. That list of rules applied to her too!! And why ask for immunity if so innocent?🤔
Ahh thats a double edged sword. Its th3 same as presecuting say a s3cretary at Auschwitz. Both knew both shut their mouths to save their own lives
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Well said
@@ozdavemcgee2079 “I was just following orders” is not an excuse and secretaries from death camps deserve to be punished idgaf what the excuse is
@@mobilegameclips5628 - Seemed to be good enough for Lt Calley (and everyone above and below him) at his trial for the My Lai massacre!
I remember hearing about this case as a young boy. Finding the fact that Ing was kept in a steel cage at trial akin to something out of a movie. It was some 30+ years later I had found myself living in a small cottage with my new girlfriend and her daughter in a small town in the Sierra’s called Wilseyville. The kind of place that a well timed blink could cause you to miss entirely if driving through. I’m not exactly sure what it was that sparked my memory but after a little investigation it came to light that I was living about 2 miles away on the very same road as the property used by Lake and Ing. I’ll never forget the feeling that came over me wen I finally worked up the nerve to drive by the place. The main gate was exactly as it was in the documentaries that can be watched. The No trespassing signs, the heavy chain, everything. I immediately felt like a prey animal who knows the predators are out of his sight but that he is not out of there’s. Needless to say I didn’t stay long...
the whole property was very eerie and dark
im getting chills over here. you just never know who someone really is on the inside
Did you pray for the Victims?
My mother’s landlords secretary lived next to Charles and Leonard before they got caught and my mothers landlord had told her how she said she had dinner at Charles and Leonards cabin house with her husband a few times and they seemed like sweet, normal people. They never suspected!! So crazy. Guess they were lucky they weren’t also victims.
Sick mfers
Bet they knew or partaked as well
Thanks for sharing, hottie.
I call bs
@@kinkytailmopogo3389 whole town was in on it
Nobody even helped the Security guard, Thank's to the Security Guard, who had no Police experience. The real hero.
Eoiu
He overpowered a small asian man... wow. So strong. Such hero..
@Phyllis I have to agree! He did a great job by not giving up and taking him down! I don't care "how small" others think Charles was, IMO, he was a larger man and most likely very strong! Kudos to the security guard!
@@jkeezy93 It is the principle.This little man, was convicted for the murdering, of people, larger, than himself1
@@jkeezy93 im sure you, mr internet troll tough guy, would do the same in real life.
Lake did horrendous wicked things to his victims and the coward in him took the easy way out. Truly evil man the wife is a piece of work. Greetings from the UK 🇬🇧.
Its not really cowardly though he chose death over incarceration , from what i gather its a painful death
imagine sitting there with the pill in hand knowing you are about to die and face judgment
Cowardly is overused its selfish
@@iamamoghalfmanhalfdog5325 it is cowardly though. He died on his own terms and didn't face the consequences of his actions. He chose a short painful death then face a lifetime of prison or even the death penalty.
@@stormbreak7003 its not really cowardly though why would he want to go to prison its not a question of fear its a choice of death over a crappy future. Cowards don't murder or commit suicide its a ridiculous thing people parrot that makes no sense
"Then I did something very clever. I made what looked like a bookcase, only for tools and things, out of some old wood and fitted it with wooden latches in the doorway, so that if you gave a casual look it just seemed that it was an old recess fitted up with shelves. You lifted it out and there was the door through." The Collector, p.25
It's eerie to read first 33 pages of The Collector, knowing Lake read it and clearly followed parts of it to the letter.
I read that in Lake's voice
Charles Ng and Leonard are two sociopaths. This is evident from disturbing events of their childhood.
Ng is very brilliant and thus used his brilliance to manipulate the justice system.
The ex wife is well aware of the killings and may have participated in the crimes.
Ng stole something from a store with a murdered man's car with an illegal murder weapon inside. You're right. He's so brilliant.
Ng is smart alright. He knew how to manipulate the justice system but got caught twice for shoplifting.
@@kurtbrewski7050 At that point he was emboldened and arrogant - common traits of sociopaths that often get them caught. But it's a good thing that stupid little mistake got him caught.
Well that is obvious. If you were some of these victims like the women would you trust Leonard or Charles? No but the exwife
I have a feeling it’s more the brilliance of his lawyers. Dad was a businessman and I guess he might have inherited by that point. Still, kleptomania and arrogance is not incompatible with brilliance
Who else can’t get past being pissed off that Lake took his own life
Why pissed off? Saved the taxpayer quite a bit of money.
@@fraxizztv6433 I’d personally pay money to watch this guy suffer years in prison. It doesn’t pack the same punch if he’s dead.
Damn, a criminal, a murderer, was treated better than his victims. Just how incompetent this justice system was to allow that criminal to get the better of them? Just utter incompetence for allowing the criminal to delay proceedings thus wasting resources and taxpayers' money. 🙄
at the time he was presumed innocent thought. You get the principle dont you?
And the westly allen dodd... Literally turned my stomach....
Fantastic ending to this crazy story : it worries me to think how many mental cases are roaming the streets right now. Unbelievable !
Universal health care is a socialist scheme aimed to destroy the free world. Sorry.🤣
@@JahBreed Mental Health you mean.
@@sonogabri1 😂Do you know how many mental health issues begin with small things like vitamin deficiency? Sorry, Dawg.
There's no way around it. Most tragedies like these would be prevented if we cared...if socualism worked....if lazy people would stop being lazy....😂
@@sonogabri1 you mean- mental health problems/issues/diagnosis. Everyone has " mental health"
I'm so annoyed that I already know this story legit I know all of them it seems like I'm only in a min and it's the story about the again guy and his friend who go and murder women in a dungeon on a farm like wtf why do I know all of them
I dont really believe in torture or knee capping people but for this dude id let that slide.
Well that's one good think about other countries. They know how to teach a lesson. Torture just like these two guys performed on the victims.
So sad that people go missing for months and no one even notices
Good thing he was trained to tell that was a silencer because anyone under the age of 6 might not realize that. Also props to him for responding to a theft under lights and siren.
🤣 🤣 🤣
It was actually dispatched as a "robbery in progress" as the 911 caller informed the operator a potential accomplice was still on site and becoming belligerent with employees; lights and sirens completely justified lol...
haaaaaaaaaaaaa its calaveras county haaaaaaaaaaa
thanks for this. I remember this case as a kid, and it was crazy! Often underrated in public knowledge that is.
Never having heard of this case, not knowing anything about the outcome, this is the WILDEST. RIDE. EVER. And then the juror said they were deadlocked .... On one count.
Prosecutor and defense attorney are BOTH geniuses. I mean I hate to say it, but if I'm ever on trial, I want that guy defending me. Calling the wife to the stand, reading her immunity agreement, and "no questions." That was brilliant. BRILLIANT.
If Ng hadn't insisted on testifying, I think he'd have gotten off.
I thought I had read or watched every serial killer ever discovered but this a new one for me..wow.
There are many thousands of them. Worldwide maybe millions out of 10 billion people. Who knows for sure. Everyone thinks serial killers are just an American thing but we are just a lil more wise to them.
@@ryanblack2986 sweeeet
Yesss and I wonder why they not told us about this case before???
When old hidden “ story popping up it always have a reason….
In this case the reason is..????? If someone find out please tell me. And I don’t like to hear guessing 🤓it’s not a game going on.!!
Facts.
@@mariawestman9026 I've heard this one before, years ago. My guess is they are just bringing it back up for people who forgot or havnt heard about it before. I kind of forgot about this one but all their faces looked so familiar.
Anyone who has an interest in true crime knows about Leonard Lake and Charlie Chitat Ng.
I’m so impressed by that prosecutor, she didn’t take her foot off the defence’s neck for one second
n. . Hhbhhhh h. H hm. H. H h. Mhh. Mmmh
Lmao what? The women they made an immunity agreement with (for which they got little information) sitting as witness for the defense AND not being able to cross examine her?
That was a massive hit to the prosecution.
Killing babies is so sick! The video of the poor mom pleading for her baby is horrible. These poor people in many cases knew and probably trusted these maniacs. The terror they all went through breaks my heart.
I watch these shows during all my free time 😭😭😭😭
You’re not alone love 😅
@@staceysmith8292 lol 😂
same.. 🤣.. it help me to be more aware of my surrounding..
His wife went back to destroy evidence of her own involvement. His letter to her was a hint to go keep herself out of jail.
It’s so creepy to think that when they replayed the disgusting videos in court Ng got to relive the event one last time. I feel like they shouldn’t be able to watch the videos they made so they can’t enjoy it.
Yup. I never thought of that...very good point.... This actually should be presented to the legal system...
Makes me feel a bit queasy listening to what these animals did to innocent people… especially the babies! Tough guys while people were handcuffed but when they were handcuffed they were cowards! One killed himself and the other just reminded me of a spoiled, entitled brat!
Those glasses on Charles NG could be used to view
the Nasa space station. ..or teach a cub scout to start a fire while camping.
idk why this was so funny to me 😭
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But not strong enough to see the
error of his ways.😶
This show left out a lot of the sadistic horror Lake and Ng inflicted on their victims.
Series was made for television. Content would've been sanitised for general viewing.
Respect to the investigators such a hard job!
This case is so evil, almost beyond compare..How sick, sadistic and twisted were the actions of Lake and Ng? ..I shudder to think just how long this bizarre folie a deux would’ve carried on if Ng didn’t get caught shoplifting..I’m not at all surprised Balazs cut a deal to save herself and to think she’d probably be free by now?
i dont understand what you mean by "she'd probably be free by now"... i thought immunity meant that she didnt get charged with anything at all and therefore was already out there being "oblivious" to her new partners murder spree
I cannot really understand how people can commit such acts of pure evil. I know it is apart of us as human beings but, I really wish these sorts of events did not happen.
I understand in reviewing these cases why women are scared of men. All I can do in my life is try to be an example a good man a defender of women and the helpless. Real men stand up to this sort of evil.
they are rare these days
It's often a gradual thing. Nearly always a toxic nurture growing up or some really messed up genetics, like a wolf. I believe most people are actually capable of committing these acts, but ofcourse and thankfully they rarely get to these extremes.
You need cloning.
The narrator is excellent. Always liked him.
Babies…. 😭😭 The fact that the wife got off is absolutely infuriating. How can you murder a baby.. let alone help your creepy husband cover it up. 😭
She didnt get "off" know that God will have vengeance.
No sin goes unpunished!!!
She will pay one way or another!!!
Atrocities beyond anything committed by any of the worst of the worst serial killers. There is something horrifically unique about guys with no qualms about abducting and murdering 2 couples and their infant children. Then you have the additional cruelty of sexually savaging the women on camera, the victims knowing that their rapes will be watched many times after they’re dead. Both mothers tortured and raped in a tiny prison while simultaneously enduring the agony of knowing or suspecting their babies were dead. I’ve never heard of even War Atrocities as extreme as that.
That's Nanking levels of messed up.
You’ve never heard of the Rape of Nanking ? Truly horrific what the Japanese did to the Chinese
@@sanitarycockroach9038 dang beat me to it
The wife and mother knew full well what was going on. The wife seems very very involved
That's why SHE GOT IMMUNITY FROM MURDER AND KIDNAPPING CHARGES....
Yeah. Cricket/his wife knew everything. He constantly told his partners about his fantasy.
And you know this how?
@@Stevekixs it was in his diary/journal/manifesto. Whatever you want to call it. I'd advise "Die for Me" by Don Lasseter who covered the case extensively.
@@Stevekixs do some research, this case was crazier than this documentary lets on. This one was okay, but it really doesn't do this case justice.
This was my favorite video from you guys. It was really satisfying to see the prosecution question Ng when he testified.
The most unbelievable part of this story is a San Francisco police officer responding to a shoplifting call.
Anytime I hear the Frontline narrator guy I am compelled to listen to everything he says
I had it turned low but then I heard Bill Curtis and I'm like "crank it"
@@Elleoaqua but it’s not Bill Curtis
100 percent agree 😂😂
And I do mean every damn thing 🎯
This is not Bill curtis or the guy who narrates Frontline this is the guy from the show the new detectives.
The only problem I have with the death penalty is the waiting procedure. If your deemed 100% guilty enough to get the death penalty you need to go from the courtroom to the injection immediately. Pointless to make everyone wait. It’s not the death penalty it’s the waiting in jail penalty. Which does not include the prisoner dying but prolongs his life and makes the tax payers continue to pay their way through life.
Around 5% of people on death row are later proven innocent.
That’s well and good until you kill an innocent person.
@@jvc8947 which is why the entire judicial system needs to be revamped
I see what you are saying in certain cases, but there have been many instances in which death row inmates have been exonerated because they have been wrongly sentenced. So an immediate lethal injection might mean that even more innocent people could be killed before they have a chance for the real perpetrator to be caught and tried
If anything doing time on death row is a lot worse than general population
I can't believe how long they got away with this. The neighbors go missing? The brother goes missing? The friends go missing? These people were all undeniably linked to these two guys. Took way too long to search the property. It looks like a dump, some states protect their criminals too well. I guess innocent civilians' lives don't matter much in California.
The way the lawyer attempted to attack the victims of this case that survived is disgusting and it's not surprising. That guy was trying to hard to win at any cost. Nauseating.
Excellent narration, the narrator's delivery is so compelling the listeners stay with the story until the end...
The Only reason I continued watching
@@PBSKIDS2024 same here
Respect getting the voice over guy who does Frontline. He’s the sound of legitness
Frightening guy that Charles Ng - I've met him early in my career. I was only the resident radiologist. Around 1987, in Canada, I am the doctor that did his upper GI series. Prince Albert Saskatchewan is where the real bad guys are in Canada. An expert in delaying things. They had to have one guard for each limb! (so he wouldn't flee custody while having medical complaints at the hospital.)
Believe it or not he was quite well behaved when he wanted to be.
There's a guy even worse if you can believe it. Criminal XYZ or maybe XYYYYYY was mad at a Prince Albert jail guard, knew where he lived came to his place of residence when on a day pass and chopped him apart - an axe murderer. The quadraplegic roommate who had witnessed the murder then had his face chopped apart by the axe murderer. Believe it or not he lived to go to the hospital, brain still intact, face gone. Now the axe murderer was going to come to the hospital to finish the job on the wards. I well remember being on CT call the night of the hospital lockdown. This stuff is so terrifying if you made a movie about it-- the audience wouldn't even believe it.....but the truth is far more terrifying than fiction.!!!
Dr. Jim Watt
Crazy how you actually met him
Are you trolling?🤔
I thought medics, doctors etc took the hypocratic oath??? Obviously when you took yours you had your fingers crossed?...... 🤞🤡
Thank you Dr. Watt. I'm sure you are well versed in dismissing haters. Great story.
Thanks Dr Watt, I appreciate your story.
I remember this (or something like it) from years ago. As soon as I heard Ng's name I knew, though I didn't remember all the details. I also think Balazs was suspicious, as was Leonard's mother to a degree but she could have just been listening to Balazs.
Damn I miss 90s crime shows! This and Forensic Files were my jam 😎
My brother used to buy pot from Lenard when he lived on & off in South San Francisco with his mom, this was in the late 70s. I’ve always been curious to know what his mom & ex-wife took out of the cabin the night before the police got there.
They were probably growing the devil's lettuce in there.
%100 no doubt it was more than some weed plants
@Byndas I wonder the same thing! IMO they both knew what had happened, that Leonard had raped, tortured, and murdered people there, then had disposed of their bodies there on the property! Of course his ex knew or she wouldn't have ask for immunity and gotten it! IMO she should have spent many years in prison as well, then had to do community service everyday for the rest of her life!
You seem, like the only one that was interested
His wife should have went to jail, for tapering with evident. She claim, she did not feel like going , that night, with the Police. However, she went with his Mom that night.
Hahaha nice lie man 😂 and he was my father
These two murders might be one of the most terrifying serial killers yet.
name one serial killer who wasnt terrifying
@@thewkovacs316 Harold Shipman
Check out Norris and Bittaker.
@@darkkiss7247 Rose and Fred West
@@ViewByRay I’d but NG & Lake over either one of those couples. Although it close Between Lake & Bittaker. I’d list my top 3 most sadistic as Lake, David Parker Ray, Bittaker
Yikes. I was there when the security guard took down Charles Ing in the Hudson Bay store in Calgary, Alberta , Canada. I didn't realize at the time what was happening, until it was on the 6 o'clock news. He was one sicko. I shudder to think what they were going to use the vise for.
Police ~ shouldn’t leave people alone with pencils either. 🙄