This is very interesting, but is important to remember that the aztec monarchy was elective among the nobles, and thus it didn't follow the primogeniture rules of europe. That is also why there is so much horizontal transitions of mandate between brothers and cousins instead of just passing the crown down to the eldest son.
Yes, but as long as you were related closely to the royal line; being a noble alone was not enough. In fact, it was very similar to the rules of succesion in Europe and other parts of the world, where it was also accepted pass the throne to a brother, or nephew, if there was not a primogenit fit or available.
@@パト-k5k That doesn't meant all those 100 children could aspire to the throne. In Mesoamerica there were "Primary" Wives and secondary Wives, which depended also on the charges which the womans family had. It is good to note here that there was a strict hierarchy of titles and posts among nobles if they wanted to aspire to the different offices in reign. Titles like Tecuhtli ("Lord"), Tlatoani ("King") and Huey-Tlatoani ("Emperor") are an example of that kind of hierarchy.
Dinosaursrecycle the succesors are Not others than the Borgia, who live by now in Ecuador... an inca princess married to a St. Ignacio de Loyola nephew, and their daughter married a Borgia
Jorge Contreras Then they have lost their divine right to rule, the moment they decided to mix races they lost their divine right. A great shame isn’t it
If I recall well, a descendant from the incan throne was proposed as king when what now is Argentina got it's independence. The idea wasn't supported by the more conservative side and a federation like the USA, with a France like constitution was (attempted to be) implemented. One can nothing but wonder what would've happened if an incan emperor would have ruled a much larger territory (Argentina, Perú, maybe Bolivia and Chile too) since that time
I posted a similar topic 2 weeks ago but decided to delete and re-make the video because: A. I wanted to improve the pronunciation; and B. I wanted to include who would be emperor today. So here's Version 2.0. Hope you like it. Special thanks to the Aztlan Historian for his help: ruclips.net/channel/UCOP_ZassEVTM_1CMbMZfArA
Great Job but are there any Nahua claims to Tlaotiani sorry we sound so demanding but I guess with Great Content comes a lot of accountability take care of yourself and your island
I love how in a class I would find this boring. But for some reason when I first found this channel I binged watched majority of the family tree and every one released since then.
12:00 That's not Count Maximilian, that is Matthew Festing, Prince and Grand Master of the Order of Malta. From what I know, there are no public photos of Count Maximilian. However, his children Ferdinand and Isabella have somewhat of a presence in social media.
For your next video on America, try to find who would be the emperor of the United States if emperor Norton was officially recognized as an emperor. I think that idea would be very cool
Ivy Ruonakoski Emperor Norton. He was this slightly crazy guy in the 1800s who said he was the emperor of America and he actually became somewhat recognized by the press. He’s not very well known however
Wow, this was great! I had no idea Montezuma has loads of living descendants! In terms of other pre-colonial dynasties from the Americas, the Incas might be interesting. The Inca Empire was massive, and had several notable leaders.
Moctezumas descendants are like socialites of New York and Spain now. But this video forgets that TLAXCALA actually defeated the Aztec(Mexica). A lot of Tlaxcallans dynasties exist today... and I believe one of them married with the HINOJOSA clan which is Felipe Calderons.
@michael ojeda They had Altepetl. Tizatlan & Ocotelolco clans.. it was similar to Italys(Renisance) families/Houses.. i.e Sforza family of Milan. Xicotencatl II who actually defeated CORTEZ, was from the Tizatlan house and he was killed by the Ocotelolcans for control of Tlaxcala. People forget that Tlaxcala was also a super state of what is now PUEBLA and it united to combat the Mexica state of the Tripple alliance based out of Mexico City. I would say that in 1500s Tlaxcala was like England and the Aztec were like the Germans during WW1. For some reason Americans(Gringos not Argentine's) love to push the narrative that Cortez single handly defeated the Aztec(their southern neighbor) .. .they do the same shi* with WW2.. according to them if it wasn't for America in WW2 we would all be speaking german(deutche) today. Yet they never talk about how the Russians, Polish and British did the majority of the fighting..by the time the US arrived at Normandy the war was pretty much over. By the time the Leonese arrived to Meso America.. Tlaxcala had already secured alliance with the Tarascans(Perepuecha). Why would Moctezuma have behaved like such a cu** to the Leonese if his Empire was so powerful.??? Tlaxcala easily defeated the Leonese (even the Zapotec/Chichimeca did in the 1600s)... Moctezuma knew the end was imminent and needed them as an ally. We need a video on TLAXCALA as they are one of the most underrated MESO AMERICAN empire... truely leaving them out of this picture is like leaving Russia out of the picture of WW2.
My husband Traced his roots on ancestry and found out he part of the montezuma II line part of one of his daughters (Mariana or also known as leonor) not be be confused with Isabel’s daughter leonor. It’s very interesting
What I like about you is that it doesn't matter that you have 174k subscribers you still listen to your viewers. Thank you for considering our requests and redoing the video. I wish I could subscribe two times
Great video, and a HUGE improvement from last time. Thank you so much for the extra effort! One interesting candidate for Mexican emperor you skipped (I don't blame you though), is Carlos Felipe of Hapsburg-Lorraine and Arenberg. He is a great-great-grand nephew of Emperor Maximilian. The claim in his favor comes from the ambiguity of Maximilian's "adoption" of Agustin's grandsons. His supporters claim that it was not an adoption, but a guardianship under the condition that they would produce heirs while Maximilian was still alive. Since Maximilian was executed while the grandsons were minors, Carlos' supporters claim the Mexican succession rights stayed in the Hapsburg family. Carlos by far is the least likely candidate for Emperor if we go by bloodline, but he's actually got the biggest amount of support among Mexican monarchists. Why? Because he's the only one that's actually Mexican. He was born, raised, and still lives in Mexico City. His sons are Canadian-born but inherited Mexican citizenship. AND he has a presence both online and irl. They've got social media accounts under the name "Casa de Habsburgo-Lorena en México", hold public events in favor of the monarchy, and Carlos travels around the country giving lectures on the history of the Second Mexican Empire and the imperial couple. Their Twitter: twitter.com/casahabsburgomx A lecture by him (in Spanish): ruclips.net/video/WK4OcXK9dE4/видео.html
Hey, just wondering if you have anymore info. I would be the 16th grandson of montezuma II but once you get to his kids things get confusing. I linked my family from parents to parents. But didn't even try to find distant cousins or anything
TheWolfboy180 Well, if you want to answer the question who would be the emperor of a country today, you usually look at the still living descendants of the previous emperor. It's not Useful charts' fault that they are Spanish.
... I am amazed we actually still have a family tree for this. Kind of figured the vanquished elites of the Aztec empire kind of either died or just assimilated into your average joe citizen of Mexico City.
Native elites, if surrended or allied remained rich and had power positions. In fact the first universites in America were built by spanish to educate the children of the native and spanish elites. Most current mexicans have native DNA, if those current mexicans are powerfull it means their native ancestors were likely already powerfull. An important conquistador would have married native princess, not commoners.
Very interesting. According to the research of my family tree, I am a descendant of Moctezuma Xocoyotzin, 18 generations removed. My family comes down through his daughter, Mariana Leonor De Moctezuma, who married Cristóbal de Valderrama Haro y Céspedes. So he was my great-x18 grandfather. Moctezuma was born in 1466 and I was born in 1966, exactly 500 years later. Knowing this gives me a whole different perspective of history.
@@SCP999-r3h existen familias que conservan el registro de sus antepasados, por ejemplo yo soy de Coahuila y soy familiar de Venustiano Carranza, hasta mi bisabuela se conservo el apellido pero ya no mi abuela, una de sus hermanas (de don Venustiano) llamada Hermelinda es mi antepasada
Yes! I was waiting for this. Do a Mayan chart!! I don't think that is going to be easy, as the Mayans covered what now are five different countries and never formed an empire as per se, it was, and still is more of a group of states.
The five Caciquedoms of Hispaniola's ruling families had some family relations, but their recorded line died out after three generations, so it'd be a short video
this was a really interesting video! i’m glad you decided to get more educated on the topic as so many creators would not have. i’m not sure if you have all of your american videos planned out but something on the maya or inca would be interesting!
Hi ! I really love this video, being an admirer of the meso-american culture (and especially the aztecs) thank you so much for your sharing ! Could you make a family tree about the inca empire ? Keep up the good work ! :)
I found out I'm a descendent of Isabel! She is my 18th great grandmother!! So I've been looking into this history and your video had a lot on info I wanted to know! Thank you!
there were no mesoamerican empires in Brazil as far as I'm concerned, but if you are talking about the descendents of the Brazilian Empire, it would be quite a short video. I don't know who would be the emperor nowadays, but it wouldn't be hard to come and follow the bloodline.
There is a monarchist movement in Brasil right now and they have the "rightful heir" to the Brazilian Empire, he is I think Luiz Orleans de Bragança. Maybe a family treeof the Orleans de Bragança House would be better as they branched out after the fall of the empire and have many strong ties with "royalty" in Belgium, where many of the Orleans are settled.
Do the Incas and the Mayas! And the Muisca! Also it would be interesting to see what you could put together for North American Natives, they didn't have the same systems of government at first, but they adopted some things from British folks once they showed up on the scene and became fully-fledged empires of their own Also as a Spanish speaker-great job with pronunciations! Nahuatl is hard to pronounce for us too lol
Makes me wanna watch the old video to compare the pronunciation because I didn’t think this video had it right either. Definitely better than a lot of other people’s videos about it though, I’ll give you that.
Carmen Ruiz Enriquez de Luna's daughter of the same name took over as the Countess of Miravalle in 2016. The new Carmen's descendants start with a 'Carlos', but she has 2 others, so the heir and the spare are taken care of too.
Great video. In the future perhaps you could make a video on who would be monarchs of the Latin American countries today, or go through the independence movements to see who has a claim, if any.
Im a descendant of Moctezuma thru my mom. Thanks for posting this. I’d love to see one video for the Purepecha of Michoacan. I descend from Tangaxuan II on my dad’s side. Their descendants eventually married into our Villaseñor, Méndez de Torres and Pérez de Garfias lines.
Now, how about a video on some of the last viceroys of New Spain and their relations or appointments by the kings of Spain up to the Independence war? (sorry for being so demanding or tasking you but, it's your fault for creating such good content). :D
☼ Have you had a go at Australian Aboriginal tribes or famous family lines? There may not be anything there, or too much. But im sure the AU Gvt will fund it and you'll get your charts in schools in the southern hemisphere. Probs a massive undertaking tho. I know nothing about it. Just that there were thousands of dialects. But they had clevermen (wizards) and chiefs i think. & the people still exist so *shrugs*. There must be EU records of something. Probs massacres, mostly, but something.
It would be cool to see videos on other pre-colonial American powers. (I really want to see a video on Mayan emperors because I visited some ancient Mayan ruins this summer)
there were wheels in the Aztec Civilization, they were used used as toys. there were no animals similar to horses/camels for the people of North America to combine both animal and wheel. Edit: Mayans also had knowledge of the wheel
I totally thought it was going to be that guy who skis for Mexico in the Olympics, but I guess he was just born in Mexico. Great job btw, the pronunciation was much improved 👍
I had no idea that there was a claim about a Mayan city. How do we know that his claim is legitimate? Uxmal was a city of the classical period, none of the pre-hispanic codex that exist speak about lineages. Or his claim comes from the colonial era?
@@alejandroesquivel6950 It's a claim based on early colonial agreements between the spanish and the local Maya nobility. Uxmal was built by the Xiu and Gaspar Antonio could prove that he is a true Xiu nobleman by those documents.
The picture of the Countess of Miravalle is that of her mother's (the 12th Countess, who died in 2014). The current Countess has no photo available on the Internet, as she doesn't like to be seen in public--or, at least, it's what she claims.
At the very beginning, after seeing that opening and the "fungus kingdom" at the bottom of the chart, the very obvious question came to my mind: Who would be the fungus king today?? And would Isabel de Moctezuma marry with him/her too??
You missed that Moctezuma, before being killed by his people, was voted out of his position by the council... the Mexica rulers weren't automatically put in just because they were blood related, a council of elders voted who would be the next Tlatoani.
It's already explained a bit when discussing about Portuguese royal family. Nevertheless, it's still interesting. Even better if done alongside Portuguese one.
You may have needed help with pronouncing the Spanish names along with the Aztec ones. I'm Spanish, a C followed by an I or an E, is always pronounced like an S in English. The ch- sound you used is more of an Italian thing. Also, the double L "LL" is pronounced like a Y. Hence Marcilla would be pronounced Mar-SEE-ya, not Mar-cheel-ah.
I'm writing a paper on this right now. I never once looked for a source on youtube or even firefox. Also never remotely searched for anything similar to this on youtube before this. Now I'm paranoid. Also thanks for the source.
Please redo this video and call it Mexican Monarchs or Monarchies of Mexico or even Emperors in Mexico, since these aren’t just Aztec!! Many people do not know about Mexico’s post-independent imperial periods! Also, if you need help with Spanish surname pronunciation, I can easily write them out phonetically for you!! You can also explain that Maximilian I of Mexico was a descendant of the first King of Spain (unified) Charles V, when Cortes conquered the Aztec empire… the Habsburgs. There is also a great grand nephew and family of Maximilian living in Mexico today, Carlos Habsburgo, son of Archduke Felix, that can accept the Mexican throne should it ever be returned to a monarchy.
Great video! That being said, I'd like to provide a few clarifications: Firstly, it should be noted that "Aztec" meaning "Mexica" is only one way the term gets used: It's also often used to refer to the Nahua culture as a whole, including it's other subgroups, and sometimes to the whole "Aztec Empire"; of both the triple alliance itself and it's various vassal and tributary states: It's a mundane point, but it's sort of important, since only the city of Tenochtitlan was Mexica, and not all Aztec Empire-controlled cities and towns were Nahua; nor were all Nahua states inside the Aztec empire (The Republic of Tlaxcala was Nahuan, for example, but never conquered, though about to be when Cortes showed up, and became the Conquistador's greatest allies). Secondly, saying Cuauhtémoc is the last Aztec emperor is a bit misleading: It's not wrong, in that he was the last Tlatoani of Tenochtitlan before it fell to the Conquistador-Tlaxcalatec-Texcoca etc force, but Tenochtitlan as Mexico City continued on to be the capital of New Spain, and the city still has Tlatoani, elected using existing Mexica succession norms, and depicted in early colional period art (in general Mesoamerican society and culture actually continued largely intact for a few more decades) still with the classic triangular diadem (Xiuhhuitzolli,) you see in Nahua art, which acts as a "crown" that Tlatoani wore: This can be seen with Diego de Alvarado Huanitzin in the Codex Aubin; who is depicted not just with the xiuhhuitzolli, but also seated on the reed throne Tlatoani were depicted sitting at in other codices. Even in the 1620';s the line of Governors in the city could be traced back to the Mexica royal line you discuss here. Thirdly, You mentioned that Tenochtitlan, Texcoco, and Tlacopan joined forces to overthrow Azcapotzalco, but never touched on why this is, exactly. When the Nahuas migirated from Northern Mexico, likely around the Bajio region, into Mesoamerica (which by this point had established civilizations for thousands of years already, though most of these earlier ones do not get that much attention, sadly), they were led by an individual named Xolotl in semi-legendary accounts. Xolotl had a daughter, who married into the Azcapotzalco (mentioned in the video, one of the cities the Nahuas founded) royal line, giving them a claim of genealogical power. The Mexica were actually among the last Nahua groups to enter into Central Mexico, by the time they arrived, Azcapotzalco and many other cities and towns in the valley and adjacent areas had already been settled (the valley had a long history in Mesoamerica, 1000 years prior for example being home to the massive metropolis of Teotihuacan, but was never as densely settled as it was after the Nahua migirations). After a series of escapdes i'll skip here, Tenochtitlan found itself as a subservient city to Azcapotzalco, and aided them on various military campaigns, eventually being given one of the daughters (Ayauhcihuatl) of the then king of Azacpotzalco (Tezozomoc) as a political marriage. Ayauhcihuatl would then be the mother of Chimalpopoca, which would be important, since when Tezozmoc died, one of his two heirs, Maxtla, assassinated the other, as well as the then king of Tenochtitlan, Chimalpopoca, as he also represented a hereditary threat. This set off the conflict which would result in the birth of the Triple Alliance. I think it would have been cool if you showed more of these political marriages connecting the Mexica royal line to that of other city-states in the valley, since if you do that you can trace some lines all the way back to the 8th century AD (allegedly, at a certain points many of these records become semi-legendary), but I get that might have been a bit much. Tlacaelel is interesting, in that he and Itzcoatl, shortly after the formation of the triple alliance, worked together to burn existing texts and re-write Mexica religion and history to suite the new political situation. Namely, Tlacaelel set up a new version of the state sponsored creation myth placing an increased emphasis on the sacrifice of enemy soldiers, thereby giving a religious impetus to justify military expansionism; and this is why the Mexica also sacrificed more people then other Mesoamerican and even other Nahua groups, though the insane figures you see of tens or hundreds of thousands being sacrificed a year are still hyperbolic and aren't supported archeologically. Tizoc is another fun one, in that he was sort of a failure: Mesoamerican politics, likely due to the fact that there were no beasts of burden, was largerly hands off: That is, captials of kingdoms and empires tended to not directly govern their subservient towns and cities, relying on indirect merhods of political control. So cities and towns switching allegiences, seceding, and the like was pretty common in response to shifting political tides. For example, whenever an Aztec emperor (and there is an actual term for this, Huetlatoani, ("Hue" or "huey" meaning "great" or "large" in Nahuatl; though sometimes the term was applied to the tlatoani of all 3 triple alliance cities, with the Tenochca king/tlatoani actually being the Huehuetlatoani)) died, distant border provinces tended to stop paying tribute, and the new emperor would have campaigns to reconquer these cities and towns and bring back enemyt soldiers as captives to sacrifice for their cornoration ceremoney, almost as a tradition. When Tizoc did this... he failed: he lost nearly his entire army and gained only a few dozen captives, and barely conquered any towns and cities. Over the next few years of his rule, he continued to have poor military success, and due to the increasingly percarious position of Aztec influence and the increasing secession of provinces, he was actually assassinated by the Aztec nobility. Even though his successor, Ahuizotl, did a swimming job for his cornoration campaign, he got amusingly told to "shove it" and even got ghosted at his cornoration ceremony by the other rulers of indepedent states in Central Mexico, a reflection of the diminished influence Tizoc caused. This also ties into the last point I want to make: Often the alliances made between local states and Conquistadors to take out Tenochtitlan is often framed as "wanting to be free of Aztec oppression" or something similar, when in reality it was the opposite: I noted before how Aztec rule was largerly hands off: conquered towns and cities kept their own rulers, laws, and customs, generally speaking, and only had pretty basic obligations of taxes/tribute of economic goods, aiding on military endveors, and the like. But since rule was indirect, states kept their own political identity and interests, and helping some other player get more power and conquer other cities, while pledging support to them, is a great way to further your own political standing with the new captial you helped prop up, since "pledging subservience" doesn't actually mean much with the indirect political systems. The Aztec Triple Alliance itself was formed this was, as we've seen. The states that sided with Cortes in the Siege of Tenochtitlan largerly did so for this reason, something evidenced by that almost all only joined after Montezuma II had died, the city struck by smallpox, etc, when it was already vulnerable. The only state which joined before this was Tlaxcala (which was actually a unified republic of 4 city-states (and a few dozen smaller depedencies) with a collective senate; with senators needing to undergo public beatings and a year of legal and ethical training prior to taking office), which was actually currently undergoing Aztec invasions and blockades to be worn down to be conquered. I could keep going, but I'll leave it at this, for now at least. Hopefully my comment wasn't too long!
@@michaelhenry3234 I can probably give sources, yeah, though since I presented a ton of information It'd be really helpful for you to specify a specific thing you are wondering about.
There's another line to Moctezuma mine. I belong to his daughter Mariana Leanor who was Pedro's sister. She married 2x and had a daughter Leanor not to be confused with her cousin Leanor Cortes. Princess Mariana Leonor Moctezuma’s daughter, Leonor de Valderrama y Moctezuma, eventually married Diego Arias Sotelo. They had four children named Fernando, Cristobal, Ana, and Petronilla. I'm a descendant of both Ana and Petronila respectively via my dad's matrilineal line
About montezuma's death, in the official history some spaniards suspicious about the natives entered in a fight with them, angering all of tenochtitlan, then they basically forced moctezuma to try to control the people, the angry mob then started to throw rocks against moctezuma, he quickly came back to cover with the spaniards and its unclear if one of the rocks that hit him caused him to die by bleeding or if the scared spaniards decided to kill him there, after that night the spaniards scaped the city and many of them died, they also lost many equipment and many expensive gifts and offers, this event was called "la noche triste de Cortés" (Cortés's sad night) because after such a big failure it is told that once in safety he just sat under a tree and started to cry
@@lucasithegreat2711 This video talks about Maximilian the Emperor of Mexico. Maximilian's grandpa is the grandpa of Pedro 2. If you've ever played Napoleon Total War, their Grandpa(Franz 2) is the faction leader of Austria. Franz 2's kids were: Daughter (Marie Louise) was the wife of Napoleon which made her Empress of France. Daughter (Maria Leopoldina) is the Empress of Brazil and mother to Pedro 2 of Brazil(Brazil faction leader of Civ 5). Son is Ferdinad 1 , who is the father of Maximilian and Franz Joseph of. Maximillians brother is Karl Ludwig which made him the uncle of Franz Ferdinad (tje one killed in sarajevo).
@@lucasithegreat2711 All of these guys are HAPSBURGS. One of the biggest funders of the New World Expeditions was not Spain but the HAPSBURGS mainly Charles V. Essentially New Spain was really like an EAST INDIA COMPANY.. and CharlesV ( Hapsburg) was the biggest shareholder. So Maximillian was sent to Mexico to help the conservatives out who were losing their place against the Masonic-Liberals. The economy was going bad (due to indepence) and the rich/ catholic wanted things to go back to the colonial days. Maximillian was sold as the HAPSBURG who was going to take back control of the Nation that his ancestors(HAPSBURGS) helped create. Maximilian was Austrian , he was sold on becoming Emporer of Mexico because he was a huge fan of BOTANY and Mexico(like Brazil) has one of the most diverse ecologies..and he was a fan of ALEXANDER VON HUMBOLDT who wrote about Mexico. But if you think about it the HAPSBURGS had rulers in every country. The Windsors of ENG The Czars of Russia They were also in Germany(bavaria) Spain , Portugal, France
As I'm listening to the video, I'm realizing some differences. In spain, they had Hernan Cortez (a name we could normally find in 2020). Meanwhile, the Aztecs had rulers who had one nicknames (like Pharaohs). Is it actually a nicknames they give themselves (or their people give them) or is it their real names given by their birth parents? Idk if I make sense in what I'm saying...
interesting! the other day someone on a genealogy group on FB posted a document from the 1600s with the genealogy of Incan rulers, so that might be interesting to research as well.
México was founded as New Spain. A Spanish kingdom that lasted 300 years, mantaining and creating indigenous aristocracy before the republic ended that however, you managed you wipe out completely from your dissertation. WOW! Just W O W
Could you please do a video on Azerbaijan A country that is directly east of Turkey and Armenia We rarely ever get represented and I would very much appreciate it if you would try and find out about our missing monarchy who’s last members where assassinated by the Russian empire
I see why you deleted this video I thought RUclips started targeting your videos but now I see you just wanted to update the chart also please do the Olmecs, Mayans, and Incas next
We know nothing about the Olmec rulers. The rulers of the Mayan city states on the other hand kept plenty of records, especially during the Classic Period.
Carmen Ruiz Enríquez died in 2014, but her daughter is claiming the title here in Spain in 2016, although with all the political instability in the country, there has been no resolution yet.
It was my pleasure to help you with this fantastic video ¡Saludos!
Damn, no comments? Let me change that. I also like your map videos, keep it up
@@fallendown8828 Thanks for the compliment
“One of Moctezumas daughters married one of Itzcoatls sons”
*Sweet home Tenochtitlan!*
Stfu
Haha
Royalty and incest seems to not only transcend borders but empires as well
they arent white you cant make fun of it
*monterrey music starts playing*
The remake - especially the improved pronunciation - is greatly appreciated, thanks!
This is very interesting, but is important to remember that the aztec monarchy was elective among the nobles, and thus it didn't follow the primogeniture rules of europe. That is also why there is so much horizontal transitions of mandate between brothers and cousins instead of just passing the crown down to the eldest son.
Montezuma had many wives. I once read that at the time of his death he had over one hundred children.
Yes, but as long as you were related closely to the royal line; being a noble alone was not enough. In fact, it was very similar to the rules of succesion in Europe and other parts of the world, where it was also accepted pass the throne to a brother, or nephew, if there was not a primogenit fit or available.
@@パト-k5k That doesn't meant all those 100 children could aspire to the throne. In Mesoamerica there were "Primary" Wives and secondary Wives, which depended also on the charges which the womans family had. It is good to note here that there was a strict hierarchy of titles and posts among nobles if they wanted to aspire to the different offices in reign. Titles like Tecuhtli ("Lord"), Tlatoani ("King") and Huey-Tlatoani ("Emperor") are an example of that kind of hierarchy.
@@パト-k5k lol he must of known the end was near and just started pumping out children left and right
They are all mixed race with Spanish blood.
The Habsburg's are everywhere
Jaw dropping isn't it?
Like Charles II of Spain??
Including each other.
"The habsburg marry everyone so much that they might have to start marrying each other"
Heranara I see what u did there
I would love to see a video about the royal line of the Inca
Dinosaursrecycle the succesors are
Not others than the Borgia, who live by now in Ecuador... an inca princess married to a St. Ignacio de Loyola nephew, and their daughter married a Borgia
Obviously it would be Chabelo
Jorge Contreras Then they have lost their divine right to rule, the moment they decided to mix races they lost their divine right. A great shame isn’t it
@@nibbanibba7202 yeah because they liked marrying their sisters so much that even the Habsburgs condemned them for incest
If I recall well, a descendant from the incan throne was proposed as king when what now is Argentina got it's independence. The idea wasn't supported by the more conservative side and a federation like the USA, with a France like constitution was (attempted to be) implemented. One can nothing but wonder what would've happened if an incan emperor would have ruled a much larger territory (Argentina, Perú, maybe Bolivia and Chile too) since that time
I posted a similar topic 2 weeks ago but decided to delete and re-make the video because: A. I wanted to improve the pronunciation; and B. I wanted to include who would be emperor today. So here's Version 2.0. Hope you like it. Special thanks to the Aztlan Historian for his help: ruclips.net/channel/UCOP_ZassEVTM_1CMbMZfArA
that's why it looked similar at first
Thank you. Are we able to see the earlier works? I’m curious to see them.
Can you make the Family tree of the actual Arabian Monarchies like Jordan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman?
You should do Iroquois
Great Job but are there any Nahua claims to Tlaotiani sorry we sound so demanding but I guess with Great Content comes a lot of accountability take care of yourself and your island
Moral of the story: don't marry Isabel if you like living
Isabel of France!
@@jabber1990 no.of spain.
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition.
@@cgt3704 well, didn’t expect that
@@markthebikethief1248 fun fact, many people expected tue inquisition because they always tell when they will arrive
She was 11.
also a habsburg cousin of Maximilian I of Mexico (Carlos Felipe de Habsburgo) also claims to be a Successor of him
Oh god damn it, those Habsburgs are everywhere
Fabio Di Miceli good luck. His house was overthrown in both Mexico & Austria. No legitimate claim to either sovereign nation.
@@Alusnovalotus Considering they once ruled.... what do you think the whole point of a claim is?
@@Nexsyana that's settler colonialism for ya
I love how in a class I would find this boring. But for some reason when I first found this channel I binged watched majority of the family tree and every one released since then.
Another great job. I enjoyed the extras you put in to make it a little different. Great job on pronunciations, I'm sure that wasn't easy!
12:00 That's not Count Maximilian, that is Matthew Festing, Prince and Grand Master of the Order of Malta. From what I know, there are no public photos of Count Maximilian. However, his children Ferdinand and Isabella have somewhat of a presence in social media.
Thanks for pointing that out. You're right.
Can you please link their social media ?
The house of Saud would be interesting.
@Hoàng Nguyên good one
House of Terrorism*
Just Vienna Bruh -_-
This time it'd be the last son. Next in line is the grandson.
For your next video on America, try to find who would be the emperor of the United States if emperor Norton was officially recognized as an emperor. I think that idea would be very cool
What are you talking about? Emperor Norton is still alive, waging a shadow war against the occupying rebel forces through ancient blood magic.
Who?
Ivy Ruonakoski Emperor Norton. He was this slightly crazy guy in the 1800s who said he was the emperor of America and he actually became somewhat recognized by the press. He’s not very well known however
There’s also the King of Beaver Island Michigan. He was James Strang. Was among the leaders of the early Church of Latter Day Saints
It would likely be a South African as he and his siblings lived there before he left for California.
Wow, this was great! I had no idea Montezuma has loads of living descendants! In terms of other pre-colonial dynasties from the Americas, the Incas might be interesting. The Inca Empire was massive, and had several notable leaders.
Moctezumas descendants are like socialites of New York and Spain now.
But this video forgets that TLAXCALA actually defeated the Aztec(Mexica).
A lot of Tlaxcallans dynasties exist today... and I believe one of them married with the HINOJOSA clan which is Felipe Calderons.
One child of a Tawantinsuyu noble (incorrectly called "an Incan princess") actually fought during the last conquest of an Islamic emirate in Spain.
@michael ojeda They had Altepetl. Tizatlan
& Ocotelolco clans.. it was similar to Italys(Renisance) families/Houses.. i.e Sforza family of Milan.
Xicotencatl II
who actually defeated CORTEZ, was from the Tizatlan house and he was killed by the Ocotelolcans for control of Tlaxcala.
People forget that Tlaxcala was also a super state of what is now PUEBLA and it united to combat the Mexica state of the Tripple alliance based out of Mexico City.
I would say that in 1500s Tlaxcala was like England and the Aztec were like the Germans during WW1.
For some reason Americans(Gringos not Argentine's) love to push the narrative that Cortez single handly defeated the Aztec(their southern neighbor) .. .they do the same shi* with WW2.. according to them if it wasn't for America in WW2 we would all be speaking german(deutche) today. Yet they never talk about how the Russians, Polish and British did the majority of the fighting..by the time the US arrived at Normandy the war was pretty much over.
By the time the Leonese arrived to Meso America.. Tlaxcala had already secured alliance with the Tarascans(Perepuecha).
Why would Moctezuma have behaved like such a cu** to the Leonese if his Empire was so powerful.??? Tlaxcala easily defeated the Leonese (even the Zapotec/Chichimeca did in the 1600s)... Moctezuma knew the end was imminent and needed them as an ally.
We need a video on TLAXCALA as they are one of the most underrated MESO AMERICAN empire... truely leaving them out of this picture is like leaving Russia out of the picture of WW2.
I'm a dependent. 16th grandson. Our family come out of Mexico and into Colorado. Been here since
My husband Traced his roots on ancestry and found out he part of the montezuma II line part of one of his daughters (Mariana or also known as leonor) not be be confused with Isabel’s daughter leonor. It’s very interesting
What I like about you is that it doesn't matter that you have 174k subscribers you still listen to your viewers. Thank you for considering our requests and redoing the video. I wish I could subscribe two times
However, mexica monarchy was elective inside the same family, there was not a father-elder son succesion
Jorge Contreras do you have more details on the selection process?
Sounds like how a lot of Germanic kingdoms used to do things as well
Great video, and a HUGE improvement from last time. Thank you so much for the extra effort!
One interesting candidate for Mexican emperor you skipped (I don't blame you though), is Carlos Felipe of Hapsburg-Lorraine and Arenberg. He is a great-great-grand nephew of Emperor Maximilian. The claim in his favor comes from the ambiguity of Maximilian's "adoption" of Agustin's grandsons. His supporters claim that it was not an adoption, but a guardianship under the condition that they would produce heirs while Maximilian was still alive. Since Maximilian was executed while the grandsons were minors, Carlos' supporters claim the Mexican succession rights stayed in the Hapsburg family.
Carlos by far is the least likely candidate for Emperor if we go by bloodline, but he's actually got the biggest amount of support among Mexican monarchists. Why? Because he's the only one that's actually Mexican. He was born, raised, and still lives in Mexico City. His sons are Canadian-born but inherited Mexican citizenship. AND he has a presence both online and irl. They've got social media accounts under the name "Casa de Habsburgo-Lorena en México", hold public events in favor of the monarchy, and Carlos travels around the country giving lectures on the history of the Second Mexican Empire and the imperial couple.
Their Twitter: twitter.com/casahabsburgomx
A lecture by him (in Spanish): ruclips.net/video/WK4OcXK9dE4/видео.html
It is so refreshing to hear the pronunciation in such a clear way for a English speaking person! Thank you!
I really appreciate the pronunciation effort! I can’t even pronounce these names as well.
I love watching your videos and learning all of this information. My cat also loves to watch your videos because of the moving mouse 😂
That's awesome. I have 3 cats at my house 🐱🐱🐱
Passed to you by Cuauhtémoc, Jaguar Warrior of Tenōchtitlan.
Age of Empires 2.. Good times
Out of my way PIG!!!
@Hoàng Nguyên 100% agree with you!
Loved that campaign, and I'm not even mexican
I am from texcoco thank you for sharing a bit of of my history
Lol I read this with that exaggerated accent that is given to a Mexican guy lol no idea why
Hey, just wondering if you have anymore info. I would be the 16th grandson of montezuma II but once you get to his kids things get confusing. I linked my family from parents to parents. But didn't even try to find distant cousins or anything
Absolutely love the extra effort in pronunciation
Your one of the best content creators.
I'd love to see some of the Inca emperors and whether they have known descendants today
@@TheWolfboy180 lol? You can't possibly blame UsefulCharts for that. He doesn't choose who get to be a claimant, you know.
@@TheWolfboy180 Both of the Aztec claims are direct blood claims… you wanted him to tell a false narrative just to fit your racist views?
TheWolfboy180 Well, if you want to answer the question who would be the emperor of a country today, you usually look at the still living descendants of the previous emperor. It's not Useful charts' fault that they are Spanish.
I descend from two inca princes, Elvira de Talagante and Barbola Diaz la Coya. Both married to Spanish conquistadors. ;), I’m from Chile
Well turns out its not me :/ darn
... I am amazed we actually still have a family tree for this. Kind of figured the vanquished elites of the Aztec empire kind of either died or just assimilated into your average joe citizen of Mexico City.
Indegenous élites were granted benefits during colony
Native elites, if surrended or allied remained rich and had power positions. In fact the first universites in America were built by spanish to educate the children of the native and spanish elites. Most current mexicans have native DNA, if those current mexicans are powerfull it means their native ancestors were likely already powerfull. An important conquistador would have married native princess, not commoners.
Very interesting. According to the research of my family tree, I am a descendant of Moctezuma Xocoyotzin, 18 generations removed. My family comes down through his daughter, Mariana Leonor De Moctezuma, who married Cristóbal de Valderrama Haro y Céspedes. So he was my great-x18 grandfather. Moctezuma was born in 1466 and I was born in 1966, exactly 500 years later. Knowing this gives me a whole different perspective of history.
My family also originates through Mariana Leonor De Moctezuma.
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@@AlmightyLatinKing Quivo, primo, lol.
Este vato 😂
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@@SCP999-r3h existen familias que conservan el registro de sus antepasados, por ejemplo yo soy de Coahuila y soy familiar de Venustiano Carranza, hasta mi bisabuela se conservo el apellido pero ya no mi abuela, una de sus hermanas (de don Venustiano) llamada Hermelinda es mi antepasada
Yes! I was waiting for this. Do a Mayan chart!! I don't think that is going to be easy, as the Mayans covered what now are five different countries and never formed an empire as per se, it was, and still is more of a group of states.
Exactly, mayans were more like the greek Citystates. No empire just an alliance.
Thank you! I have been expecting this video for a long time now! 🙂
Isabel de Moctezuma was the true black widow
Shes my 14th grandma lmao
I would love to see something regarding the Taino people. I know that would be very difficult as they dont have the history of the Aztecs or Mayans.
The five Caciquedoms of Hispaniola's ruling families had some family relations, but their recorded line died out after three generations, so it'd be a short video
This would probably be the wrong channel for this, but I would like to see it.
this was a really interesting video! i’m glad you decided to get more educated on the topic as so many creators would not have. i’m not sure if you have all of your american videos planned out but something on the maya or inca would be interesting!
Hi ! I really love this video, being an admirer of the meso-american culture (and especially the aztecs) thank you so much for your sharing !
Could you make a family tree about the inca empire ?
Keep up the good work ! :)
He needs do one about TLAXCALA because their lines are still around today.
Great video, been waiting some time for it. Love this channel
I found out I'm a descendent of Isabel! She is my 18th great grandmother!! So I've been looking into this history and your video had a lot on info I wanted to know! Thank you!
Hello
She’s my 15th great grandmother hi cousin
I would love to see “Who would be Emperor of Brazil today”
there were no mesoamerican empires in Brazil as far as I'm concerned, but if you are talking about the descendents of the Brazilian Empire, it would be quite a short video. I don't know who would be the emperor nowadays, but it wouldn't be hard to come and follow the bloodline.
There is a monarchist movement in Brasil right now and they have the "rightful heir" to the Brazilian Empire, he is I think Luiz Orleans de Bragança. Maybe a family treeof the Orleans de Bragança House would be better as they branched out after the fall of the empire and have many strong ties with "royalty" in Belgium, where many of the Orleans are settled.
@@RenegadeShepard69 I see, thanks for the information!
Please do a video over the Hashemite Dynasty & who would be King of Arabia if Britain & France had kept their agreement with them after WWI.
This is part of my family tree, recently just discovered by a family relative. It’s incredible we are able to trace back our ancestors
Hey same here. How were you related? Would like to talk about it some more for insight
Same.
There were Aztec puppet emperors beyond Cuauhtemoc, under Spanish rule, until about 1566.
Do the Incas and the Mayas! And the Muisca! Also it would be interesting to see what you could put together for North American Natives, they didn't have the same systems of government at first, but they adopted some things from British folks once they showed up on the scene and became fully-fledged empires of their own
Also as a Spanish speaker-great job with pronunciations! Nahuatl is hard to pronounce for us too lol
The picture of the current heir, Count Maximilian, is actually a picture of the former Maltese Prince and Great Master Matthew Festing
Makes me wanna watch the old video to compare the pronunciation because I didn’t think this video had it right either.
Definitely better than a lot of other people’s videos about it though, I’ll give you that.
yeah there are definitely still errors but i've seen much much worse
I agree, it was hard for me to get past the pronunciation but I commend him for trying.
Carmen Ruiz Enriquez de Luna's daughter of the same name took over as the Countess of Miravalle in 2016.
The new Carmen's descendants start with a 'Carlos', but she has 2 others, so the heir and the spare are taken care of too.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE THESE VIDEOS.
Please i would love to see some of the South America Empires
I love hearing U pronounce every city
Thanks for this video. I have been interested in the Aztec culture for a few years now
Great video. In the future perhaps you could make a video on who would be monarchs of the Latin American countries today, or go through the independence movements to see who has a claim, if any.
Im a descendant of Moctezuma thru my mom. Thanks for posting this. I’d love to see one video for the Purepecha of Michoacan. I descend from Tangaxuan II on my dad’s side. Their descendants eventually married into our Villaseñor, Méndez de Torres and Pérez de Garfias lines.
Looks like im related to you than from both side lol. Hello cousin aha
Hi cousins 😬
I'm related through my mom as well but also related to Cortez through the illegitimate daughter Leonor born 1528.
Tecuixpo Ixtlaxóchitl is my great Grandmother.
@@vine3112same. How you doing cuzzo
Love the vids. Do a/some Welsh King ones! 🙏
Another great video as usual
Now, how about a video on some of the last viceroys of New Spain and their relations or appointments by the kings of Spain up to the Independence war? (sorry for being so demanding or tasking you but, it's your fault for creating such good content). :D
There weren't many direct relations between the different viceroys
☼ Have you had a go at Australian Aboriginal tribes or famous family lines? There may not be anything there, or too much. But im sure the AU Gvt will fund it and you'll get your charts in schools in the southern hemisphere. Probs a massive undertaking tho. I know nothing about it. Just that there were thousands of dialects. But they had clevermen (wizards) and chiefs i think. & the people still exist so *shrugs*. There must be EU records of something. Probs massacres, mostly, but something.
It would be cool to see videos on other pre-colonial American powers. (I really want to see a video on Mayan emperors because I visited some ancient Mayan ruins this summer)
Aztecs: Highly populous cities, advanced religion with large buildings
Also Aztecs: *have approximately 0 wheels*
And that what makes it even more fascinating my Ancestors were able to do all of that whit out the wheel
there were wheels in the Aztec Civilization, they were used used as toys. there were no animals similar to horses/camels for the people of North America to combine both animal and wheel.
Edit: Mayans also had knowledge of the wheel
When you skip researching the wheel in Civ V
very eurocentric comment here. that's like making fun of europeans for not inventing zero. what's the point?
Never clicked so fast. I feel like my prayers for mexican related content are being answered. Keep'em up!
I totally thought it was going to be that guy who skis for Mexico in the Olympics, but I guess he was just born in Mexico. Great job btw, the pronunciation was much improved 👍
Fun Fact: Francisco Javier Girón, founder of the Spanish Civil Guard, was a Moctezuma descendant.
So not only did the european nobility intermingle with each other, the american nobility also went in there
All royal families on earth intermarried.
Great topic!! Can we get a chart of the Mayan city states and their political relations? It would be a cool change of pace from lineage charts.
Here is much harder challenge for you: Who would be the Kuhul Ajaw of the Mayan city of Uxmal today? TIP: Gaspar Antonio Xiu Cachon
I like the way you think. Do we know who would rule on Toniná? They would sure make for a fearsome army (according to their past). Lol
He died in 2017.
I had no idea that there was a claim about a Mayan city. How do we know that his claim is legitimate? Uxmal was a city of the classical period, none of the pre-hispanic codex that exist speak about lineages. Or his claim comes from the colonial era?
@@alejandroesquivel6950 It's a claim based on early colonial agreements between the spanish and the local Maya nobility. Uxmal was built by the Xiu and Gaspar Antonio could prove that he is a true Xiu nobleman by those documents.
@@Frodojack Yup, but he has a legitimate son, but IDK if he is interested in his lineage.
do one about the brazilian royal tree
that would pretty much be the same as Portugal
@Barry no it wouldn't. Research the Orleans de Bragança i think that's the one op might be referring to.
@@RenegadeShepard69 yes, and there is a lot of cool and interesting stuff about the descendants of D. Pedro II
I'm a descendant of Moctezuma II through two different lines. He's my 15th great grandfather.
Dices la verdad? Porque me encantaría hacerte algunas preguntas. Agradecería que me respondieras
which lines?
The picture of the Countess of Miravalle is that of her mother's (the 12th Countess, who died in 2014). The current Countess has no photo available on the Internet, as she doesn't like to be seen in public--or, at least, it's what she claims.
Very interesting and informative video.
I loved this!! I'm gonna go see if he's made one on the Inca Empire. If not, please put that on the list!! 💜💜💜
At the very beginning, after seeing that opening and the "fungus kingdom" at the bottom of the chart, the very obvious question came to my mind: Who would be the fungus king today?? And would Isabel de Moctezuma marry with him/her too??
You missed that Moctezuma, before being killed by his people, was voted out of his position by the council... the Mexica rulers weren't automatically put in just because they were blood related, a council of elders voted who would be the next Tlatoani.
An Incan Empire Family Tree Might Be Neat, Or Perhaps Family Trees Of Pre-Aztec Mesoamerican Empires, If Possible.
This is a great channel
I love this so much.
Do one for the Brazilian Monarchy next!
It's already explained a bit when discussing about Portuguese royal family. Nevertheless, it's still interesting. Even better if done alongside Portuguese one.
You may have needed help with pronouncing the Spanish names along with the Aztec ones. I'm Spanish, a C followed by an I or an E, is always pronounced like an S in English. The ch- sound you used is more of an Italian thing. Also, the double L "LL" is pronounced like a Y. Hence Marcilla would be pronounced Mar-SEE-ya, not Mar-cheel-ah.
I'm writing a paper on this right now. I never once looked for a source on youtube or even firefox. Also never remotely searched for anything similar to this on youtube before this. Now I'm paranoid.
Also thanks for the source.
Please redo this video and call it Mexican Monarchs or Monarchies of Mexico or even Emperors in Mexico, since these aren’t just Aztec!! Many people do not know about Mexico’s post-independent imperial periods! Also, if you need help with Spanish surname pronunciation, I can easily write them out phonetically for you!!
You can also explain that Maximilian I of Mexico was a descendant of the first King of Spain (unified) Charles V, when Cortes conquered the Aztec empire… the Habsburgs. There is also a great grand nephew and family of Maximilian living in Mexico today, Carlos Habsburgo, son of Archduke Felix, that can accept the Mexican throne should it ever be returned to a monarchy.
Great video! That being said, I'd like to provide a few clarifications: Firstly, it should be noted that "Aztec" meaning "Mexica" is only one way the term gets used: It's also often used to refer to the Nahua culture as a whole, including it's other subgroups, and sometimes to the whole "Aztec Empire"; of both the triple alliance itself and it's various vassal and tributary states: It's a mundane point, but it's sort of important, since only the city of Tenochtitlan was Mexica, and not all Aztec Empire-controlled cities and towns were Nahua; nor were all Nahua states inside the Aztec empire (The Republic of Tlaxcala was Nahuan, for example, but never conquered, though about to be when Cortes showed up, and became the Conquistador's greatest allies).
Secondly, saying Cuauhtémoc is the last Aztec emperor is a bit misleading: It's not wrong, in that he was the last Tlatoani of Tenochtitlan before it fell to the Conquistador-Tlaxcalatec-Texcoca etc force, but Tenochtitlan as Mexico City continued on to be the capital of New Spain, and the city still has Tlatoani, elected using existing Mexica succession norms, and depicted in early colional period art (in general Mesoamerican society and culture actually continued largely intact for a few more decades) still with the classic triangular diadem (Xiuhhuitzolli,) you see in Nahua art, which acts as a "crown" that Tlatoani wore: This can be seen with Diego de Alvarado Huanitzin in the Codex Aubin; who is depicted not just with the xiuhhuitzolli, but also seated on the reed throne Tlatoani were depicted sitting at in other codices. Even in the 1620';s the line of Governors in the city could be traced back to the Mexica royal line you discuss here.
Thirdly, You mentioned that Tenochtitlan, Texcoco, and Tlacopan joined forces to overthrow Azcapotzalco, but never touched on why this is, exactly. When the Nahuas migirated from Northern Mexico, likely around the Bajio region, into Mesoamerica (which by this point had established civilizations for thousands of years already, though most of these earlier ones do not get that much attention, sadly), they were led by an individual named Xolotl in semi-legendary accounts. Xolotl had a daughter, who married into the Azcapotzalco (mentioned in the video, one of the cities the Nahuas founded) royal line, giving them a claim of genealogical power. The Mexica were actually among the last Nahua groups to enter into Central Mexico, by the time they arrived, Azcapotzalco and many other cities and towns in the valley and adjacent areas had already been settled (the valley had a long history in Mesoamerica, 1000 years prior for example being home to the massive metropolis of Teotihuacan, but was never as densely settled as it was after the Nahua migirations).
After a series of escapdes i'll skip here, Tenochtitlan found itself as a subservient city to Azcapotzalco, and aided them on various military campaigns, eventually being given one of the daughters (Ayauhcihuatl) of the then king of Azacpotzalco (Tezozomoc) as a political marriage. Ayauhcihuatl would then be the mother of Chimalpopoca, which would be important, since when Tezozmoc died, one of his two heirs, Maxtla, assassinated the other, as well as the then king of Tenochtitlan, Chimalpopoca, as he also represented a hereditary threat. This set off the conflict which would result in the birth of the Triple Alliance. I think it would have been cool if you showed more of these political marriages connecting the Mexica royal line to that of other city-states in the valley, since if you do that you can trace some lines all the way back to the 8th century AD (allegedly, at a certain points many of these records become semi-legendary), but I get that might have been a bit much.
Tlacaelel is interesting, in that he and Itzcoatl, shortly after the formation of the triple alliance, worked together to burn existing texts and re-write Mexica religion and history to suite the new political situation. Namely, Tlacaelel set up a new version of the state sponsored creation myth placing an increased emphasis on the sacrifice of enemy soldiers, thereby giving a religious impetus to justify military expansionism; and this is why the Mexica also sacrificed more people then other Mesoamerican and even other Nahua groups, though the insane figures you see of tens or hundreds of thousands being sacrificed a year are still hyperbolic and aren't supported archeologically.
Tizoc is another fun one, in that he was sort of a failure: Mesoamerican politics, likely due to the fact that there were no beasts of burden, was largerly hands off: That is, captials of kingdoms and empires tended to not directly govern their subservient towns and cities, relying on indirect merhods of political control. So cities and towns switching allegiences, seceding, and the like was pretty common in response to shifting political tides. For example, whenever an Aztec emperor (and there is an actual term for this, Huetlatoani, ("Hue" or "huey" meaning "great" or "large" in Nahuatl; though sometimes the term was applied to the tlatoani of all 3 triple alliance cities, with the Tenochca king/tlatoani actually being the Huehuetlatoani)) died, distant border provinces tended to stop paying tribute, and the new emperor would have campaigns to reconquer these cities and towns and bring back enemyt soldiers as captives to sacrifice for their cornoration ceremoney, almost as a tradition. When Tizoc did this... he failed: he lost nearly his entire army and gained only a few dozen captives, and barely conquered any towns and cities. Over the next few years of his rule, he continued to have poor military success, and due to the increasingly percarious position of Aztec influence and the increasing secession of provinces, he was actually assassinated by the Aztec nobility. Even though his successor, Ahuizotl, did a swimming job for his cornoration campaign, he got amusingly told to "shove it" and even got ghosted at his cornoration ceremony by the other rulers of indepedent states in Central Mexico, a reflection of the diminished influence Tizoc caused.
This also ties into the last point I want to make: Often the alliances made between local states and Conquistadors to take out Tenochtitlan is often framed as "wanting to be free of Aztec oppression" or something similar, when in reality it was the opposite: I noted before how Aztec rule was largerly hands off: conquered towns and cities kept their own rulers, laws, and customs, generally speaking, and only had pretty basic obligations of taxes/tribute of economic goods, aiding on military endveors, and the like. But since rule was indirect, states kept their own political identity and interests, and helping some other player get more power and conquer other cities, while pledging support to them, is a great way to further your own political standing with the new captial you helped prop up, since "pledging subservience" doesn't actually mean much with the indirect political systems. The Aztec Triple Alliance itself was formed this was, as we've seen. The states that sided with Cortes in the Siege of Tenochtitlan largerly did so for this reason, something evidenced by that almost all only joined after Montezuma II had died, the city struck by smallpox, etc, when it was already vulnerable. The only state which joined before this was Tlaxcala (which was actually a unified republic of 4 city-states (and a few dozen smaller depedencies) with a collective senate; with senators needing to undergo public beatings and a year of legal and ethical training prior to taking office), which was actually currently undergoing Aztec invasions and blockades to be worn down to be conquered.
I could keep going, but I'll leave it at this, for now at least. Hopefully my comment wasn't too long!
Great info. Thanks :)
Do you have a source for this? I'm not doubting you, I just want to read more about all this.
@@michaelhenry3234 I can probably give sources, yeah, though since I presented a ton of information It'd be really helpful for you to specify a specific thing you are wondering about.
@@michaelhenry3234 Also if you have a twitter I'd be hqappy to just send a bunch of resources your way if that'd be help!
I recently found out that Moctezuma was my ancestor. I'm obsessed now!
The only Aztec ancestor I would ever need is Kars
Ayayayayayay
Awaken, my masters!
Do the Sapa Inca (leaders of the Inca Empire) family tree next! I wonder who would be the Sapa Inca of a restored Inca Empire.
There's another line to Moctezuma mine. I belong to his daughter Mariana Leanor who was Pedro's sister. She married 2x and had a daughter Leanor not to be confused with her cousin Leanor Cortes.
Princess Mariana Leonor Moctezuma’s daughter, Leonor de Valderrama y Moctezuma, eventually married Diego Arias Sotelo. They had four children named Fernando, Cristobal, Ana, and Petronilla. I'm a descendant of both Ana and Petronila respectively via my dad's matrilineal line
This is so interesting, did you ever think that Isabel de Montezuma was a Black widow? Was it revenge for all her Aztec family dying?
To be honest I thought you were going to butcher the pronunciation, but actually did outstanding, congrats.
Hi. Thanks for your great inspirational family tree charts. Would you be interested in making the tree of the Inca dynasty ?
About montezuma's death, in the official history some spaniards suspicious about the natives entered in a fight with them, angering all of tenochtitlan, then they basically forced moctezuma to try to control the people, the angry mob then started to throw rocks against moctezuma, he quickly came back to cover with the spaniards and its unclear if one of the rocks that hit him caused him to die by bleeding or if the scared spaniards decided to kill him there, after that night the spaniards scaped the city and many of them died, they also lost many equipment and many expensive gifts and offers, this event was called "la noche triste de Cortés" (Cortés's sad night) because after such a big failure it is told that once in safety he just sat under a tree and started to cry
Doesn’t sound very sad to me, except for the part where moctezuma dies.
@@nibbanibba7202 well it was sad for Cortés who lost all he had gained, thats why its called "Cortés's sad night" not "Tenochtitlan's sad night"
Make one about the Brazilian Imperial House
he alraedy did.. Maximillian is Pedro 2's cousin.
Who's Maximillian?
@@lucasithegreat2711 This video talks about Maximilian the Emperor of Mexico.
Maximilian's grandpa is the grandpa of Pedro 2. If you've ever played Napoleon Total War, their Grandpa(Franz 2) is the faction leader of Austria.
Franz 2's kids were:
Daughter (Marie Louise) was the wife of Napoleon which made her Empress of France.
Daughter (Maria Leopoldina) is the Empress of Brazil and mother to Pedro 2 of Brazil(Brazil faction leader of Civ 5).
Son is Ferdinad 1 , who is the father of Maximilian and Franz Joseph of.
Maximillians brother is Karl Ludwig which made him the uncle of Franz Ferdinad (tje one killed in sarajevo).
That's amazing. Btw I do have Napoleon Total War yes but I didn't know that. How come he was the emperor of Mexico?? Was he from Mexico by any chance?
@@lucasithegreat2711 All of these guys are HAPSBURGS.
One of the biggest funders of the New World Expeditions was not Spain but the HAPSBURGS mainly Charles V.
Essentially New Spain was really like an EAST INDIA COMPANY.. and CharlesV ( Hapsburg) was the biggest shareholder.
So Maximillian was sent to Mexico to help the conservatives out who were losing their place against the Masonic-Liberals.
The economy was going bad (due to indepence) and the rich/ catholic wanted things to go back to the colonial days.
Maximillian was sold as the HAPSBURG who was going to take back control of the Nation that his ancestors(HAPSBURGS) helped create.
Maximilian was Austrian , he was sold on becoming Emporer of Mexico because he was a huge fan of BOTANY and Mexico(like Brazil) has one of the most diverse ecologies..and he was a fan of ALEXANDER VON HUMBOLDT who wrote about Mexico.
But if you think about it the HAPSBURGS had rulers in every country.
The Windsors of ENG
The Czars of Russia
They were also in Germany(bavaria)
Spain , Portugal, France
As I'm listening to the video, I'm realizing some differences. In spain, they had Hernan Cortez (a name we could normally find in 2020). Meanwhile, the Aztecs had rulers who had one nicknames (like Pharaohs). Is it actually a nicknames they give themselves (or their people give them) or is it their real names given by their birth parents? Idk if I make sense in what I'm saying...
Would love to see a video about the Ainu people
Very good history and very informative
Why are Isabell and Pedro's surnames MOCTezuma and not MONTezuma? Did you mess up or did the spanish want to further insult the Aztec's?
interesting! the other day someone on a genealogy group on FB posted a document from the 1600s with the genealogy of Incan rulers, so that might be interesting to research as well.
I could give information for most of the women they married and their families. You should make also an aztec gods Family Tree :D
México was founded as New Spain. A Spanish kingdom that lasted 300 years, mantaining and creating indigenous aristocracy before the republic ended that however, you managed you wipe out completely from your dissertation. WOW! Just W O W
Could you please do a video on Azerbaijan
A country that is directly east of Turkey and Armenia
We rarely ever get represented and I would very much appreciate it if you would try and find out about our missing monarchy who’s last members where assassinated by the Russian empire
Very interesting. Would you make one of the Incas?
I see why you deleted this video I thought RUclips started targeting your videos but now I see you just wanted to update the chart also please do the Olmecs, Mayans, and Incas next
We know nothing about the Olmec rulers. The rulers of the Mayan city states on the other hand kept plenty of records, especially during the Classic Period.
Would love to see your take on the Habsburgs in a timeline
haha your video on them got suggested to me next lol
Montezuma 2 is my 14th great grandfather from his daughter Mariana Leonor.
please create Inca emperors family chart
That Isabel is either very unlucky or she favored the 'divorce by death' strategy
Carmen Ruiz Enríquez died in 2014, but her daughter is claiming the title here in Spain in 2016, although with all the political instability in the country, there has been no resolution yet.