Imagine It with 12gb of VRAM, even just 10gb would even be a big upgrade in some situations and higher res, same for the RTX 3070 ti that is even worse
I mean that's one way to see it, but in ray tracing I kinda see it the other way around, as the RX 4060 without ray tracing has similar results to the RTX 2080 super but on ray tracing it should have way better results with RT cores that are 2 generations newer IMO.
@@teflonstestbenchyea but the 2080s used still cost double a new 4060 and the 2080 still does draw double the power and has 50% more rt cores its not a viable comparison except to show that now for a literal fraction of the price you can get 2080 super performance in new price to new price a 4070 or 4070super would be the right comparison to a 2080S
@@teflonstestbench YES! That was what I noticed too. Old cards aren't worse in RT, of all things. Sure, you go up 2 performance classes (from xx60 to xx80), but if you bught a 2080 or better GPU back in 2018 - you're still laughing as people buy 4060 cards NOW!
Why is frame generation turned off on the RTX 4060 in games that allow it? It is assumed that if you are going to make a comparison between several graphics cards you have to do it using 100% of each one to really know the difference between them, I know that many will say that it is not fair to do it that way but if you think a little, the RTX 4000 have a dedicated part of the hardware for that and if you don't use it you wouldn't really be using 100% of this card... it's just my humble opinion
I'm not using it because it is a tech that affects the visual quality of the game when active, so the runs are not comparable. If I was reviewing it I would enable it and use it to compare it to other cards, but the goal in these tests are to compare the GPUs in the same exact scenario, so you can know how each one performs. I will do separate tests with dlss and frame gen both with the Nvidia and AMD counterpart in the future, and I'm preparing one to explain exactly this kind of thing. But it's not only about the fps number, and dlss frame gen affects a lot more things so at the same time you will be getting more fps and less responsiveness and image quality so it is not comparable to other cards running without it. About using the 100% it does not work like that, it's true that it has a dedicated piece of hardware but they are all connected and using one affects the others in different ways, that is why if you see the ray tracing ones you can see the clock speed is different and the power consumption too, so it's not like using more or less internal circuits is using more or less of the cards capacity. You just use all of it but in another way.
@@teflonstestbenchyo lo uso en 4k y horyzon zero dow da a 60 fps alto sin rt sin dlls y muchos juegos va genial a en 4 k 60 fps estables foenite da 150 fps en modo rendimiento sin 100% resolución y eso que mi cpu es solo una ryzen 3400g imagínate con algo mejor muchos juegos ganas fps con un mejor procesador ya que el mio anda a 80 % a 99 % de uso siempre pero aun así puedo darme el lujo de jugar 4k en todo alto
Best thing about rtx 4060 is its low power usage , with this , it can be used in a laptop and performs just like its desktop version, but you can't say that about other rtx laptops cards. In rtx 4 series laptops , you aether have to buy a 4060 or a 4080 or 4090 , and in budget gaming , 4060 laptop is the way to go( it has better dlss and FG)( but you should get a laptop with like a 12th intel cpu , not a i9 14900hx cpu, that will be just a waste of money with that 4060)
Old cards aren't worse in RT, of all things. Sure, you go up 2 performance classes (from xx60 to xx80), but if you bught a 2080 or better GPU back in 2018 - you're still laughing as people buy 4060 cards NOW! The only secret sauce that a 4060 can benefit from here is frame gen...which while it is really useful (I have a 4090 and use it plenty) - it's not for everyone's taste, since it adds latency, especially at those already low fps thresholds on a lower-end card! I played through RoboCop Rogue City recently with frame gen off - even though the framerate and animations looked smoother - popping headshots was easier at lower fps, but less latency. Really puts my long-time stance into perspective. I always said I'd rather buy high-end and enjoy it longer than be stuck with mid-end ALL the time. The end result in several years is maybe the same, but the high end card is waaay more fun to use when it's fresh.
Yeah I agree that the only benefits from the 4060 are frame gen and I would add the lower power consumption. But higher end cards are way better overall and last longer thanks to the beefy memory configurations and high core counts that will power through even if the architecture is older. The latency problem and it's relation to framerates is a completely different discussion here, as they affect gameplay in different ways, and people don't seem to consider than when talking about frame gen and just think that higher fps means better, even if you loose quality or smoothness
@@teflonstestbench I don't mind frame gen in racing games where I don't need to move the mouse. Forza Horizon 5 plays wonderfully at 4K, maxed, RT maxed - and it still maxes out my 165Hz screen's refresh with frame gen. Let's say there's added latency...but I can't feel it, as I'm not controlling the camera, but even if I did - the base framerate is also already very high. Another game that surprised me was Cyberpunk 2077. The game has such low base input latency - even at low FPS - that adding frame gen was a net positive (smoother animations/gameplay), so I ended up playing the entire game with it on (pistol / sniper / shotgun / mantis blades build - so I still need to aim). The added latency was not enough to negatively outweigh the added framerate/smoothness gains. But then there's RoboCop, as I mentioned, where the mouse control felt too soupy for my liking to use frame gen... And this is on a 4090, imagine a 4060 doing frame gen slower due to less tensor perdormance...
Sir, i need the answer. I have i7 8700 cpu with 32 gigs ram. Which shoould i buy? Im so cofuses between 4060ti & 3070. I need that vga for my rendering lumion. Which should i take for better fast render? Pls answer
Probably the RTX 4060 ti would be better as it is more modern and should be a little faster tho I haven't tested it. So that in theory should make it better for rendering tho it's impossible to know without testing that specific task in particular
@@teflonstestbench thank you sir. Another question. How about bottle neck? Some ppl and forums rtx 40 not optimal if we have old cpu. How do you think about that?
Bottleneck is more complicated than that, it depends on the task. For gaming that system will be a little bottlenecked with that, but nothing to bad and not noticeable if you play at high resolutions or high quality settings so not a problem. For productivity work bottlenecks means nothing because it depends on what the task uses. If it's a 100% GPU task then no bottleneck, if it's mixed and relies on a lot of CPU then a lot of bottleneck but again means nothing because in that task the limit is always gonna be the CPU. So don't worry about it
Yeah, RT settings for this game are a little bit weird and I had to redo the test a couple of times with different settings until I settled on a configuration that looked and performed ok and I could test on other cards too
Imagine what a disappointment 4060 is when you see 3070 being better than last gen 2080 super not just 2080 and 4060 can't even beat 3060 or 3060 ti let alone 3070 or 3070 ti. RTX 4 series is just overpriced garbage.
No a todos nos gusta como se siente dlls3 en juegos online ya hay latencia por internet o servidor de país ahora con rt y dlls3.5 aunque uses reflex se siente retraso para otros juegos quisas pero que no sean enlinea
I know it's not maybe the most popular, but I usually choose games depending on if they are a good benchmark for the cards. In this case Control is a really good benchmark because it pushes the cards a lot on RT and on non RT benchmarks it is one of the tests where the cards use the most power, so it's a really good game to benchmark GPU performance.
Sir, i need the answer. I have i7 8700 cpu with 32 gigs ram. Which shoould i buy? Im so cofuses between 4060ti & 3070. I need that vga for my rendering lumion. Which should i take for better fast render? Pls answer
3070 is such a beast. if it came with more vram it would go down in history books
Imagine It with 12gb of VRAM, even just 10gb would even be a big upgrade in some situations and higher res, same for the RTX 3070 ti that is even worse
It was a mid tier beast*
Impressive that the 4060 gets comparable performance to the 2080 super at just half the powerdraw !
I mean that's one way to see it, but in ray tracing I kinda see it the other way around, as the RX 4060 without ray tracing has similar results to the RTX 2080 super but on ray tracing it should have way better results with RT cores that are 2 generations newer IMO.
@@teflonstestbenchyea but the 2080s used still cost double a new 4060 and the 2080 still does draw double the power and has 50% more rt cores its not a viable comparison except to show that now for a literal fraction of the price you can get 2080 super performance in new price to new price a 4070 or 4070super would be the right comparison to a 2080S
@@teflonstestbench YES! That was what I noticed too. Old cards aren't worse in RT, of all things. Sure, you go up 2 performance classes (from xx60 to xx80), but if you bught a 2080 or better GPU back in 2018 - you're still laughing as people buy 4060 cards NOW!
Thinking of modding my 3070 to 16gb 😮💨
Why is frame generation turned off on the RTX 4060 in games that allow it? It is assumed that if you are going to make a comparison between several graphics cards you have to do it using 100% of each one to really know the difference between them, I know that many will say that it is not fair to do it that way but if you think a little, the RTX 4000 have a dedicated part of the hardware for that and if you don't use it you wouldn't really be using 100% of this card... it's just my humble opinion
I'm not using it because it is a tech that affects the visual quality of the game when active, so the runs are not comparable. If I was reviewing it I would enable it and use it to compare it to other cards, but the goal in these tests are to compare the GPUs in the same exact scenario, so you can know how each one performs.
I will do separate tests with dlss and frame gen both with the Nvidia and AMD counterpart in the future, and I'm preparing one to explain exactly this kind of thing. But it's not only about the fps number, and dlss frame gen affects a lot more things so at the same time you will be getting more fps and less responsiveness and image quality so it is not comparable to other cards running without it.
About using the 100% it does not work like that, it's true that it has a dedicated piece of hardware but they are all connected and using one affects the others in different ways, that is why if you see the ray tracing ones you can see the clock speed is different and the power consumption too, so it's not like using more or less internal circuits is using more or less of the cards capacity. You just use all of it but in another way.
Feel great having 3070 as primary rig
Solid card, just needed a bit more VRAM to last longer
@@teflonstestbenchyo lo uso en 4k y horyzon zero dow da a 60 fps alto sin rt sin dlls y muchos juegos va genial a en 4 k 60 fps estables foenite da 150 fps en modo rendimiento sin 100% resolución y eso que mi cpu es solo una ryzen 3400g imagínate con algo mejor muchos juegos ganas fps con un mejor procesador ya que el mio anda a 80 % a 99 % de uso siempre pero aun así puedo darme el lujo de jugar 4k en todo alto
Best thing about rtx 4060 is its low power usage , with this , it can be used in a laptop and performs just like its desktop version, but you can't say that about other rtx laptops cards.
In rtx 4 series laptops , you aether have to buy a 4060 or a 4080 or 4090 , and in budget gaming , 4060 laptop is the way to go( it has better dlss and FG)( but you should get a laptop with like a 12th intel cpu , not a i9 14900hx cpu, that will be just a waste of money with that 4060)
Old cards aren't worse in RT, of all things. Sure, you go up 2 performance classes (from xx60 to xx80), but if you bught a 2080 or better GPU back in 2018 - you're still laughing as people buy 4060 cards NOW!
The only secret sauce that a 4060 can benefit from here is frame gen...which while it is really useful (I have a 4090 and use it plenty) - it's not for everyone's taste, since it adds latency, especially at those already low fps thresholds on a lower-end card!
I played through RoboCop Rogue City recently with frame gen off - even though the framerate and animations looked smoother - popping headshots was easier at lower fps, but less latency.
Really puts my long-time stance into perspective. I always said I'd rather buy high-end and enjoy it longer than be stuck with mid-end ALL the time. The end result in several years is maybe the same, but the high end card is waaay more fun to use when it's fresh.
Yeah I agree that the only benefits from the 4060 are frame gen and I would add the lower power consumption. But higher end cards are way better overall and last longer thanks to the beefy memory configurations and high core counts that will power through even if the architecture is older. The latency problem and it's relation to framerates is a completely different discussion here, as they affect gameplay in different ways, and people don't seem to consider than when talking about frame gen and just think that higher fps means better, even if you loose quality or smoothness
@@teflonstestbench I don't mind frame gen in racing games where I don't need to move the mouse. Forza Horizon 5 plays wonderfully at 4K, maxed, RT maxed - and it still maxes out my 165Hz screen's refresh with frame gen. Let's say there's added latency...but I can't feel it, as I'm not controlling the camera, but even if I did - the base framerate is also already very high.
Another game that surprised me was Cyberpunk 2077. The game has such low base input latency - even at low FPS - that adding frame gen was a net positive (smoother animations/gameplay), so I ended up playing the entire game with it on (pistol / sniper / shotgun / mantis blades build - so I still need to aim). The added latency was not enough to negatively outweigh the added framerate/smoothness gains.
But then there's RoboCop, as I mentioned, where the mouse control felt too soupy for my liking to use frame gen...
And this is on a 4090, imagine a 4060 doing frame gen slower due to less tensor perdormance...
Sir, i need the answer. I have i7 8700 cpu with 32 gigs ram. Which shoould i buy? Im so cofuses between 4060ti & 3070. I need that vga for my rendering lumion. Which should i take for better fast render? Pls answer
Probably the RTX 4060 ti would be better as it is more modern and should be a little faster tho I haven't tested it. So that in theory should make it better for rendering tho it's impossible to know without testing that specific task in particular
@@teflonstestbench thank you sir. Another question. How about bottle neck? Some ppl and forums rtx 40 not optimal if we have old cpu. How do you think about that?
Bottleneck is more complicated than that, it depends on the task. For gaming that system will be a little bottlenecked with that, but nothing to bad and not noticeable if you play at high resolutions or high quality settings so not a problem.
For productivity work bottlenecks means nothing because it depends on what the task uses. If it's a 100% GPU task then no bottleneck, if it's mixed and relies on a lot of CPU then a lot of bottleneck but again means nothing because in that task the limit is always gonna be the CPU. So don't worry about it
@@teflonstestbench thank you sir. I'm sure now for get that rtx 4060 ti now. I gonna subs u. U're really good at it
@@teflonstestbench sir. I have another choices. How about 3080 or 4060ti?
tbh alan wake 2 looks too blurry at 1080p and with a framerate under 60 it's even more unenjoyable.
Yeah, RT settings for this game are a little bit weird and I had to redo the test a couple of times with different settings until I settled on a configuration that looked and performed ok and I could test on other cards too
wait, am i wrong or should you compare the 60ti and not the clear one, bc the ti is on the right spot between these 2
Imagine what a disappointment 4060 is when you see 3070 being better than last gen 2080 super not just 2080 and 4060 can't even beat 3060 or 3060 ti let alone 3070 or 3070 ti. RTX 4 series is just overpriced garbage.
The RTX 4060 does beat the RTX 3060, but its kinda disappointing how bad it performs vs the RTX 3070 at that price
4060>>>>2080 s with Frame generation :))
No a todos nos gusta como se siente dlls3 en juegos online ya hay latencia por internet o servidor de país ahora con rt y dlls3.5 aunque uses reflex se siente retraso para otros juegos quisas pero que no sean enlinea
Спасибо
4060 is pathetic
control so boring overblown game i think u don't need to benchmark it anymore that game is irreverent
I know it's not maybe the most popular, but I usually choose games depending on if they are a good benchmark for the cards. In this case Control is a really good benchmark because it pushes the cards a lot on RT and on non RT benchmarks it is one of the tests where the cards use the most power, so it's a really good game to benchmark GPU performance.
@@teflonstestbenchDon't worry, you did the right thing testing Control. It's a great benchmark.
taking the 4060 because of the watts alone.
Nah I got my 2080super for 200usd then I undervolted it saved alot of money 4060 is way to expensive 😂
Sir, i need the answer. I have i7 8700 cpu with 32 gigs ram. Which shoould i buy? Im so cofuses between 4060ti & 3070. I need that vga for my rendering lumion. Which should i take for better fast render? Pls answer
La 4060ti tiene más potencia que las rtx 3070 aparte más vram tampoco es mucho pero si le gana
@@angelleonardgonzaleszuniga6572 sorry sir. I don't understand your language 🙏