I own a Fathom and it's been a wonderful kayak. Mine is old enough that it doesn't have the (self) adjusting seat. The new seat is a mistake. My friend has one with the new seat and he (as well as many others I have spoken to,) agree the seat moves when in rough conditions or when trying to roll. I have written Eddyline about the issue, but never received a reply. Now they are making kayaks in Mexico. I believe that was because the socialist leaning government in Washington State, made business unrealistic for Eddyline forcing them to move the factory. But in any case, I truly hope the folks in Mexico can come up with some improvement on their self-mis-adjusting seat. If they cannot come up with a FAR better way to lock it down they would be better off going back to the old design like what I have. MY fathom is excellent in every way. Eddyline also made one other mistake in my opinion. That was dropping the low volumn Fathom, which is one they should bring back.
@@SteveZihn I think they should put another locking bolt in the back. I think it would help minimize movement. Guess you could use marine adhesive to glue the seat in. But why would you when the issue could be resolved by EL.
@@TheSeriousWaterman To me it's sad they have any such problems because other than that one issue I have nothing but high praise for the Fathom. Because mine has a fixed seat it's been excellent in all regards. Only the newer ones seem to have this problem . The Sitka line too.
It’s really not a kayak designed for rolling due to the high back deck. They seem to target general population in the fact that it’s adjustable for a variety of people who want performance for light touring.
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I own a Fathom and it's been a wonderful kayak. Mine is old enough that it doesn't have the (self) adjusting seat. The new seat is a mistake. My friend has one with the new seat and he (as well as many others I have spoken to,) agree the seat moves when in rough conditions or when trying to roll. I have written Eddyline about the issue, but never received a reply. Now they are making kayaks in Mexico. I believe that was because the socialist leaning government in Washington State, made business unrealistic for Eddyline forcing them to move the factory. But in any case, I truly hope the folks in Mexico can come up with some improvement on their self-mis-adjusting seat. If they cannot come up with a FAR better way to lock it down they would be better off going back to the old design like what I have. MY fathom is excellent in every way. Eddyline also made one other mistake in my opinion. That was dropping the low volumn Fathom, which is one they should bring back.
@@SteveZihn I think they should put another locking bolt in the back. I think it would help minimize movement. Guess you could use marine adhesive to glue the seat in. But why would you when the issue could be resolved by EL.
@@TheSeriousWaterman I'd agree, but so far I have no information saying they are working on the problem.
@@TheSeriousWaterman To me it's sad they have any such problems because other than that one issue I have nothing but high praise for the Fathom. Because mine has a fixed seat it's been excellent in all regards. Only the newer ones seem to have this problem . The Sitka line too.
It’s really not a kayak designed for rolling due to the high back deck. They seem to target general population in the fact that it’s adjustable for a variety of people who want performance for light touring.