Both are very sturdy and capable sports chronographs first. Jewellery only in the eyes of the beholder as they are made of steel and not previous metals..
@@progressivelibertarianview8832 precious metal? Two years on I still stand by the comment, in fact I would go to Zenith if I wanted another chronograph, cheaper, available and with that wicked 10 second sweep. Oh and it looks great through the case back, as does the new Speedy.
I chose a Speedmaster over a Daytona and I have no regrets. I wear nothing else except my Speedmaster now. I will warn you however, you will probably end up spending hundreds of dollars on different straps for the Speedmaster. The thing looks so damn good on absolutely anything.
Curious...as I am also a proud owner of a Speedy Saphire sandwich and love it, however, when you say you "chose a Speedmaster over a Daytona", does that imply you actually had the opportunity to buy a Daytona? I can't honestly say that given the choice between the two I would have turned down purchasing a Daytona given the demand. That's a smart investment even if you prefer to wear a Speedy over a Daytona. Especially since you could have sold the Daytona at a massive profit, and then got a Speedy out of it :) All in all, I love the Speedy, but facing facts, I'm still on a Daytona waiting list for a call that (let's not kid ourselves) will never come.
You buy a Speedmaster because you have 3 grand to spend on a watch not because you have 20K to spend on a Daytona. These watches are not even in the same ballpark.
Daytona needs a "date" to be able to daily wear time-piece for the cost. Which is why I like the automatic version of Speedmaster with a date. Not a fan of manual wind.
@@986C loll how old are you boy ? People buy speed bcoz it's a speedy and not because they're investing for their retirement , investment buyers hardly wear their watches and never enjoy it
The Cosmograph was never designed for space use. The name doesn’t refer to space use if that’s what you’re thinking. Rolex already used the name ‘Cosmograph’ during the fifties on models that had a moonphase complication.
Both win, but the choice is down to means. If you’re not a Rolex VIP and don’t have 20 grand......You could own and enjoy the Speedy while waiting for a call that never comes on a new Daytona.
@@986C Absolutely......If Ferraris come down on price to match more affordable cars, you will see only Ferraris on the street. Reality is, its not going to happen. In the same breath, i for one believe, if Daytona is sold at the same price tag as Speed master, it wouldn't have the craze it has today. If available readily, i am 100% certain, every watch enthusiast will have both in their collection. I think the craze is what making Rolex purposefully delay direct sales but watch and get thrills on the grey market. Who wouldn't like their products sell @ 200% of the retail? It's a dangerous game though.....especially when there are far better movements & complicated watches available (If investment is not ones top priority). That said, i have 2 Omegas , on waiting list for Daytona @ 6 ADs but i also know that i am never getting one from an AD.....I bought a Date just II and a OP 39 with the money i am saving for Daytona...To add more variety rather than waiting from my grave, i decide to treat myself with a JLC Master Geographic in couple of months for my birthday. You don't buy a Rolex, Rolex buys you ;) Cheers!
986C, that’s absolutely not true. I already own a modern Rolex Submariner and I could get either one of those watches. If I was in the market for a chronograph watch, I would choose the Speedmaster. The Speedmaster has way more legibility, the Daytona’s hour/minute hands and sub dial hands are very poorly designed and the legibility is terrible. When I glance down at my watch, I want to recognize the time immediately, not examine it. Furthermore, legibility is one of the reasons why I have a Submariner ... and the fact that they go a step further by implementing the Mercedes hour hand to easily distinguish between the hour and minute hands at a glance. The contrast is excellent too on both the Submariner and Speedmaster.
Great points, great video! I'm a doctor, and I just bought the Speedmaster to be my "ER/on call watch". Even though the Hesalite crystal may scratch easier, you can polish it easier than sapphire, which you might have to end up replacing completely. Plus, a NATO strap makes it a bit more utilitarian and flexible in my mind. I think it's the better choice as a "work" watch between the two!
Congratulations on you watch. You made a great choice. There is hardly a watch out there that is so easy on the eyes when you need to know the time. I will buy the new model that has a magnetic resistance of 15000 gauss. I am working as an x-ray technician (I think that is the title outside my country) and am swimming in magnetic fields at work. Have a great day :-)
The fact that it was close is exactly why I love omega. This watch is basically unchanged since it went to the moon and it can compete with what Rolex is putting out now. A better comparison might be the Rolex to the speedy racing. Can’t really see Rolex competing with a modern omega on any level except for gravitas and design (in terms of ‘iconicness’ as the design hasn’t changed!).
I couldn’t agree more. A more modern Speedmaster racing would indeed be a fairer comparison. Comparing the Speedmaster professional to this Daytona is like apple and oranges.
This is not about watches. This is about psychology and money. Kudos to Rolex as the GRANDMASTERS of marketing. The Omega has been on the moon, the Daytona has been in ...well, Daytona. It is fortunate for us, that Tim just presents these two icons in the usual, professional and persuading fashion.
I definitely prefer the Speedmaster. I need a watch to be able to tell the time easily and quickly in any light conditions. I've had a Speedmaster for 12 years now and it's legibility among chronograph wristwatches is just unbeatable. It is clear and simple, it has a high contrast, great lume so that I can read it in the night as well. When I send it in for maintenance I miss it really badly. I also abused the watch a lot, it has been my sports watch for road cycling and mountain biking, hiking, trekking and it has held up great. Rolexes never really appealed to me, I just don't like their design, the shapes of the hands, the shapes of the markings. If I really had to choose a Rolex, because no other brand and design of watches were available, I would still not choose the Daytona, but one of their most simple designs, like the Explorer or Oyster Perpetual, because of their simplicity, or maybe a Milgauss.
Seeing how you can't just go into an AD and purchase a Daytona I go with the Omega. I am a Rolex guy but they are getting ridiculous with regard to the lack of supply. It does not pay for an AD to sell to a normal customer when an AD can sell a Daytona to a grey market dealer for way more over retail then they would charge a walk in customer or a customer they have a long relationship with. Not saturating the market is a good thing but Rolex has gone too far in my opinion.
I've been hearing rumors that some sales reps at ADs receive kickbacks for selling Daytona, Hulk, GMT Pepsi and Batman to grey market and second hand dealers. That's how they're able to control the market and prices. Ordinary folks who are not VIP customers will then have to wait forever or pay over 20k to the grey/secondary market dealers.
For me, this is an impossible choice. Why? Well, as a value proposition - Rolex simply cannot win, no matter the investment value and such crap. It is overrated, overpriced, overhyped etc... On the other hand, as a longtime (former) Speedy owner, I can say it with ease - Rolex is significantly better watch in every possible way - its movement is newer, well proven, automatic and more accurate (plus with hacking), it has a superior water resistance, it is all-around tougher and much better proportioned (I found that Moonwatch wears unnecessary large because of the protruding endlinks of the bracelet), it has a sapphire crystal (that feature alone would make it a winner in my book) and the build quality is simply on a higher level. That being said, the money difference is of such magnitude that Omega presents much better value albeit being obviously inferior watch. If the Rolex was priced in the 5000-8000$ range (and that is probably what it SHOULD be priced, considering the competition) it would be a winner without a sweat. But, being priced as it is now, plus ridiculous waiting lists and stuff...the winner must be Omega Speedy Pro, not because it is a better watch (it is not, not even close), but because it is fairly priced, well-designed and historically important timepiece from the established manufacture.
Omega: prettier, much better legiblity, all the waterresistance a normal man needs, and better value, especially if you get the sapphire. And about movements: I really don't think the Omega movement is a slouch:)
the fact is that you should of compared the speedmaster reduced which has the selfwinding complication like the daytona also if it wasnt for zenith ther would be no daytona and furthermore rolex didnt modifiy the zenith movement they removed the calender complication
i absolutely love the history behind the moonwatch, but since i wear it every day, i've chosen the daytona. the ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal still look brand new after a year and a half of hard use. I dont believe the omega would have fared the same.
Get the Omega in the sapphire version... Granted you don't get the ceramic bezel, but the sapphire version has a clear sapphire back as well to show that vintage movement
People who know nothing about watches are easily impressed by the Rolex...because its Rolex. People who know about watches are impressed by the speedy. I think that about answers the question as to which is the better piece.
My Omega Seamaster is my my daily...recently, I recieved a Daytona two tone gold and black. I must say that it feels more comfortable comparing and Seamaster.....even more comfortable than my Submariner.
Love the moonwatch - unrivaled history and high adventure , its guts and glory real life events completely and overwhelmingly defeat any Rolex - which no doubt - is the better watch spec for spec for any earthbound man - but then again - so is a high end G shock. The moonwatch is the horological champion of our times - the Rolex - the better tec. Great competition Tim.
I feel like it's worth mentioning, the speedmaster looks so much better in person than on video. When you handle it in person, it looks so much more eye catching and almost dressy in a sense. It plays with the light so well
I'd pick the Speedmaster although the sapphire sandwich variant fir everyday use. You were on the money as always on the review with interaction with the watch more often which I kind of like. Thanks Tim
I'm from Houston and have owned both. The only Daytona to own is a Zenith-powered Daytona. Otherwise, go with the Speedmaster: far more practical to wear every day.
I am choosing the Rolex Daytona because it is more beautiful and modern then the Omega Speedmaster. I like the screw down chronograph pusher that keep the chronograph from activate accidentally.
I am not sure when the switch happened but now All Omegas get 5 Year warranty. I Purchased a Co-axial speed master in May,2019 which got 5 years and got a Moon watch in June,2019, which also came with 5 year manufacturer's warranty.
Anyone saying they are equivalent in quality and the price difference is just because of the Rolex name and marketing has no idea what they are talking about. Handle both and it's instantly obvious the build quality on the Rolex is on another level. The winding action, case back design, bracelet, etc., is excellent on a Rolex. There is no play in the hands and the date changes instantly at midnight. All specs are better, WR and accuracy. Rolex movements are the gold standard in accuracy, durability, reliability, and servicibility.
I have the new Speedy and love it. May eventually get the Daytona, but would get the Panda version because the Speedy's black dial makes the Daytona look like a wantabe.
I realize it's a matter of opinion, but you buy the Daytona if you want the more attractive watch. You buy the Speedmaster for the history. Both are great pieces.
I'd take the daytona just for the thinnest, although I like the panda version better. Then again it's 4x the price of the moonwatch right now, so maybe not a very fair comparison.
My dealer told me that I have to first buy some junk Rolex watches(the ones that don’t sell very well) to build a relationship with them. And then they will take my name for a waitlist that has a few years backlog. No thanks. It has become an organized crime now.
I like the Daytona better, but the Omega is easier to get and it fits in my budget better. My next watch will probably be the Omega Sapphire Sandwich on a black leather strap.
Two titans. A world of difference in price at retail, nevermind the current secondary market. I'll take the speedy and pocket the 15-20 grand. The daytona however is the superior machine. Better in every way.
For my tastes, I'm not too high on either of these icons...but both are great watches. I would prefer the Daytona though. Tim, how is the Moon Watch tougher without a full balance bridge or a free sprung balance? Thank you, Mark
As someone that once both raced Porsches and flew aircraft I always thought that I should own a Daytona. I looked at them many, many times (back when they were easy to get) and just could not get past the bulky, glitzy, busy look. I think the Omega is a far more attractive watch.
I think he’s saying that a preowned Daytona is even more expensive than a new Speedmaster. So you can buy a new Speedmaster cheaper than an old Daytona. And even cheaper if you buy a preowned Speedmaster.
Both Watches are Perfect, go with The Daytona Ceramic because of value and is rare to get one. However, having owned both the Ceramic as well as the vintage Big Red Daytona, I would choose big red Daytona over any watch there is.
A 50 years old designed watch vs a 2016. Are you kidding!?! Compare the Daytona to the modern Omega speed master with the Coax movement. That would be fair and interesting.
Both watches are nice, but the Omega is better value and certainly easier to obtain without getting gouged. A big negative with the Omega is that there are so many diffferent versions of the Speedmaster that does a wonderful job of confusing the potential buyer.
benvolio mozart don’t give a rats arse about NASA. You’re not an astronaut are you or nasa employee? The facts are it’s a $3k entry level watch. Deal with that. When you save up and have enough for a Daytona, your delusions will end.
Never thought of myself as having a brand preference, but I seem to be drawn to Omega. It started when my dad willed me his presentation DeVille from 1976. I now own a dress version and a 41mm Seamaster. To complete this phase of my collection I've been looking at a dressy sports watch, or a sporty dress watch. For me it always seems to come back to the Speedmaster. There's the history of course but the value/price ratio is just insane with Rolex. Rolex is a better brand, but are they a better watch? I say no. Right now my choice is between a "First in Space" and a Moonwatch in Hesalite.
i honestly don't get the Daytona. i find it way over rated. i also think it looks better on Ladies' wrist than men's. Speed Master ticks all the boxes for me. really an all around GREAT watch.. thanks great review.
Kevork Nourian no brainer. The quality of rolex is evident if you are lucky to be able to hold both in hand. Anyone thinking the speedy is anywhere near the same quality has never been able to compare objectively. I’d never buy omega. Always rolex for anything under $15k retail
The Rolex is a better watch. For the price, it sure as hell ought to be. But I still think 40mm is too small for a chronograph. If I'm actually going to use the stopwatch, I'll take the incredible, 46mm, Sinn EZM-10 over either of these.
The Rolex is too expensive to comfortably wear for me. Hitting my watch against the doorknob would be like putting a dent in my car. The Omega however, for 3-4k secondhand you can wear without worry and bash around and has more of an old-school rough and tumble style to it. The advantage of designs like that is that they still look good when you beat them up a bit. Where a beaten up Daytona just looks like a damaged watch.
Great review and summary. However it's to some extent comparing apples with oranges. The Rolex costs FAR more at the end of the day, though the physical build costs are most likely pretty comparable. The marketing is the difference. Was Neil wearing a Rolex on the MOON? - No. Did the Rolex pass space environment testing and prove itself in space on multiple occasions No. The speedy is a pure classic it even looks Apollo!. - However both are great watches. Personally I went for a Speedmaster with Sapphire glass, and exhibition back, best of both worlds. Raw posing power or pure class. The speedy for the class, the Rolex is for flashing around..
What about a mention of the “sapphire sandwich” Moonwatch. It’s not quite the purist’s watch, but it can still take everyday use much better. Just my opinion. However, Daytona still is my choice as well. Great video Tim!
This is a difficult one! The Rolex very luxurious, it just oozes quality! The Omega more workman like, but it’s a legend and I’m interested in space travel and astronomy. I’m also a car enthusiast, classical and new. Even though motor racing, funnily enough never really interested me. Still I can’t choose here...I’d have both! 🙂
Tim, I suspect the Trip-lock of Daytona and GMT is identical to the Submariner and Rolex hides this fact, instead just claiming 100 meters for marketing reasons? Has any one ever investigated this when taking apart the watches?
The triplock crown is the same for the Sub and the Daytona (& GMT among others). However, the Sub has a much thicker caseback that's why it is rated at 300m compared to the 100m rating of the Daytona. Hope that helps. Cheers!
I prefer the Moon watch. It’s more of a youthful watch even for a youthful 40something man. It’s the right price for everyday use. It’s proven, been to the moon, NASA preferred. It looks great on any strap. I don’t like the bracelet on it. Rolex makes way better bracelets. The Speedmaster bracelets from the early 70’s match the case better and look timeless. These modern Omega bracelets look dated and belong in 1995. The Daytona as bad ass as it is. It became more of a statement watch due to the hype. It’s no longer thought of a tool/racing watch even though it has a racing heritage. The Daytona does not look good in a strap. Maybe if it was a smaller morevintage size case, then yes. For me I wouldn’t wear it much which is sad because of what it’s worth. Too pricey to wear and tear. If theDaytona was as common as a Submariner and it was priced accordingly ($8-$10k)? Yes, for me I would rock it daily. Still no wrong choice either watch. I’d get both. I’m a Speedy owner and a Date Just guy. If I could find a Daytona at retail I would definitely buy. I won’t buy at double the price.
Speedy and Date Just owner here too...Love them both ! I wouldn't mind a cool Daytona however...but...as you mention yourself,...one can't seem to find them at retail anymore ! Peace :)
All they fucking need to do with speedy is to update in forward in one linear path and NOT the sprawl of L.E speedmasters. Applied logo. Ceramic Bezel. Steel lumed plots.
Why such a great watch reviewer would team up with a slime ball such as the Gerbil Entry is beyond me. Tim - much love to you. Do whatever you need to do and make sure you get away from that little dirt bag.
It’s a watch that hasn’t changed much. It looks vintage yet the design is timeless. For a Chronograph it’s very versatile. Any strap looks good on it. It’s not a homage to anything, plus it’s NASA preferred. Sure it’s not a Daytona (better bracelet, better power reserve, automatic, value retention, also an icon) but, for $3-$5k you get more bang for buck. Plus suited for everyday use, it could be a beater or a safe queen.
i have the sapphire caseback 1863 movement and is is very pretty to look at. Open case rolex is interesting but not pretty. when the Daytona was first presented it was Rolexes worst selling watch. Thats how much hype can do to a watch. Now everyone wants one.
Daytona is great jewellery, Speedmaster is a great watch.
@@thetruthhurts7500 How many you got man hahaha.
So true.
@User 2389 Not nonsense when you can wear a Speedy to space, you can’t do that shit with a Daytona muahaha
Both are very sturdy and capable sports chronographs first. Jewellery only in the eyes of the beholder as they are made of steel and not previous metals..
@@progressivelibertarianview8832 precious metal? Two years on I still stand by the comment, in fact I would go to Zenith if I wanted another chronograph, cheaper, available and with that wicked 10 second sweep. Oh and it looks great through the case back, as does the new Speedy.
I chose a Speedmaster over a Daytona and I have no regrets. I wear nothing else except my Speedmaster now.
I will warn you however, you will probably end up spending hundreds of dollars on different straps for the Speedmaster. The thing looks so damn good on absolutely anything.
Curious...as I am also a proud owner of a Speedy Saphire sandwich and love it, however, when you say you "chose a Speedmaster over a Daytona", does that imply you actually had the opportunity to buy a Daytona?
I can't honestly say that given the choice between the two I would have turned down purchasing a Daytona given the demand. That's a smart investment even if you prefer to wear a Speedy over a Daytona. Especially since you could have sold the Daytona at a massive profit, and then got a Speedy out of it :)
All in all, I love the Speedy, but facing facts, I'm still on a Daytona waiting list for a call that (let's not kid ourselves) will never come.
You buy a Speedmaster because you have 3 grand to spend on a watch not because you have 20K to spend on a Daytona. These watches are not even in the same ballpark.
986C that’s rubbish. You buy the speedy because of its history. Most speedy owners have loads of other watches. Cost is often not a factor.
Daytona needs a "date" to be able to daily wear time-piece for the cost. Which is why I like the automatic version of Speedmaster with a date. Not a fan of manual wind.
@@986C loll how old are you boy ? People buy speed bcoz it's a speedy and not because they're investing for their retirement , investment buyers hardly wear their watches and never enjoy it
If you were going to give me one of the two, I'd take the Daytona. But only because I would sell it and buy a speedy and a submariner.
That would be brilliant. you get two great watches instead of one.
Not going to lie. You had me in the first half.
I'm a Speedy owner, and I'd do the same - almost! - I'll get a SD4000 instead of the Sub:-D
Yes. A 40.5 mm *master* co-axial chronometer OMEGA Speedmaster '57 and a no-date Rolex Submariner for me.👍
Ironic how the speedmaster was originally designed as an automotive watch, while the cosmograph was originally designed for space use.
True. The Speedy was a racing watch way before Rolex. The Cosmopraph never made it to space.
The Cosmograph was never designed for space use. The name doesn’t refer to space use if that’s what you’re thinking. Rolex already used the name ‘Cosmograph’ during the fifties on models that had a moonphase complication.
This is a good one
@@Gnomosfortheoffice uh you sure ? Rolex steel is made from aerospace material .. for some it has use in space .
Both win, but the choice is down to means. If you’re not a Rolex VIP and don’t have 20 grand......You could own and enjoy the Speedy while waiting for a call that never comes on a new Daytona.
Andrew Kendall - Finally someone that is honest. You only vote for the Speedmaster if you can’t afford the Daytona.
@@986C Absolutely......If Ferraris come down on price to match more affordable cars, you will see only Ferraris on the street. Reality is, its not going to happen. In the same breath, i for one believe, if Daytona is sold at the same price tag as Speed master, it wouldn't have the craze it has today. If available readily, i am 100% certain, every watch enthusiast will have both in their collection. I think the craze is what making Rolex purposefully delay direct sales but watch and get thrills on the grey market. Who wouldn't like their products sell @ 200% of the retail? It's a dangerous game though.....especially when there are far better movements & complicated watches available (If investment is not ones top priority). That said, i have 2 Omegas , on waiting list for Daytona @ 6 ADs but i also know that i am never getting one from an AD.....I bought a Date just II and a OP 39 with the money i am saving for Daytona...To add more variety rather than waiting from my grave, i decide to treat myself with a JLC Master Geographic in couple of months for my birthday. You don't buy a Rolex, Rolex buys you ;) Cheers!
@@Raghav2384 I only buy watches because of its beauty. If It dont know the brands, I would never buy a Daytona, its not impressing to me.
986C, that’s absolutely not true. I already own a modern Rolex Submariner and I could get either one of those watches. If I was in the market for a chronograph watch, I would choose the Speedmaster. The Speedmaster has way more legibility, the Daytona’s hour/minute hands and sub dial hands are very poorly designed and the legibility is terrible. When I glance down at my watch, I want to recognize the time immediately, not examine it. Furthermore, legibility is one of the reasons why I have a Submariner ... and the fact that they go a step further by implementing the Mercedes hour hand to easily distinguish between the hour and minute hands at a glance. The contrast is excellent too on both the Submariner and Speedmaster.
Great points, great video! I'm a doctor, and I just bought the Speedmaster to be my "ER/on call watch". Even though the Hesalite crystal may scratch easier, you can polish it easier than sapphire, which you might have to end up replacing completely. Plus, a NATO strap makes it a bit more utilitarian and flexible in my mind. I think it's the better choice as a "work" watch between the two!
Congratulations on you watch. You made a great choice. There is hardly a watch out there that is so easy on the eyes when you need to know the time. I will buy the new model that has a magnetic resistance of 15000 gauss. I am working as an x-ray technician (I think that is the title outside my country) and am swimming in magnetic fields at work. Have a great day :-)
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The fact that it was close is exactly why I love omega. This watch is basically unchanged since it went to the moon and it can compete with what Rolex is putting out now. A better comparison might be the Rolex to the speedy racing. Can’t really see Rolex competing with a modern omega on any level except for gravitas and design (in terms of ‘iconicness’ as the design hasn’t changed!).
I couldn’t agree more. A more modern Speedmaster racing would indeed be a fairer comparison. Comparing the Speedmaster professional to this Daytona is like apple and oranges.
This is not about watches. This is about psychology and money. Kudos to Rolex as the GRANDMASTERS of marketing. The Omega has been on the moon, the Daytona has been in ...well, Daytona. It is fortunate for us, that Tim just presents these two icons in the usual, professional and persuading fashion.
I love Rolex but when talking about chronographs, nobody beats the Speedy in my heart!
I definitely prefer the Speedmaster. I need a watch to be able to tell the time easily and quickly in any light conditions. I've had a Speedmaster for 12 years now and it's legibility among chronograph wristwatches is just unbeatable. It is clear and simple, it has a high contrast, great lume so that I can read it in the night as well. When I send it in for maintenance I miss it really badly. I also abused the watch a lot, it has been my sports watch for road cycling and mountain biking, hiking, trekking and it has held up great. Rolexes never really appealed to me, I just don't like their design, the shapes of the hands, the shapes of the markings. If I really had to choose a Rolex, because no other brand and design of watches were available, I would still not choose the Daytona, but one of their most simple designs, like the Explorer or Oyster Perpetual, because of their simplicity, or maybe a Milgauss.
i really feel like speedmaster has more elegant design than daytona....
For sure. Understated, less text, easier to read. No contest there.
Seeing how you can't just go into an AD and purchase a Daytona I go with the Omega. I am a Rolex guy but they are getting ridiculous with regard to the lack of supply. It does not pay for an AD to sell to a normal customer when an AD can sell a Daytona to a grey market dealer for way more over retail then they would charge a walk in customer or a customer they have a long relationship with. Not saturating the market is a good thing but Rolex has gone too far in my opinion.
I've been hearing rumors that some sales reps at ADs receive kickbacks for selling Daytona, Hulk, GMT Pepsi and Batman to grey market and second hand dealers. That's how they're able to control the market and prices. Ordinary folks who are not VIP customers will then have to wait forever or pay over 20k to the grey/secondary market dealers.
It’ll be Rolex’s demise. I’ll pay for quality by I refuse to get ripped off.
Omega speedmaster and rolex submariner, the perfect couple!
For me, this is an impossible choice. Why? Well, as a value proposition - Rolex simply cannot win, no matter the investment value and such crap. It is overrated, overpriced, overhyped etc... On the other hand, as a longtime (former) Speedy owner, I can say it with ease - Rolex is significantly better watch in every possible way - its movement is newer, well proven, automatic and more accurate (plus with hacking), it has a superior water resistance, it is all-around tougher and much better proportioned (I found that Moonwatch wears unnecessary large because of the protruding endlinks of the bracelet), it has a sapphire crystal (that feature alone would make it a winner in my book) and the build quality is simply on a higher level. That being said, the money difference is of such magnitude that Omega presents much better value albeit being obviously inferior watch. If the Rolex was priced in the 5000-8000$ range (and that is probably what it SHOULD be priced, considering the competition) it would be a winner without a sweat. But, being priced as it is now, plus ridiculous waiting lists and stuff...the winner must be Omega Speedy Pro, not because it is a better watch (it is not, not even close), but because it is fairly priced, well-designed and historically important timepiece from the established manufacture.
could not have said it better.
@@janbeggebeen +1
Omega: prettier, much better legiblity, all the waterresistance a normal man needs, and better value, especially if you get the sapphire. And about movements: I really don't think the Omega movement is a slouch:)
Vukota Brajovic obviously inferior...but went to the moom?
This is literally the only answer. Every other comment on this video might as well disappear
Speedy! The greatest sports watch in history
If it’s not a Rollie, what’s the point?
the fact is that you should of compared the speedmaster reduced which has the selfwinding complication like the daytona also if it wasnt for zenith ther would be no daytona and furthermore rolex didnt modifiy the zenith movement they removed the calender complication
i absolutely love the history behind the moonwatch, but since i wear it every day, i've chosen the daytona. the ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal still look brand new after a year and a half of hard use. I dont believe the omega would have fared the same.
Get the Omega in the sapphire version... Granted you don't get the ceramic bezel, but the sapphire version has a clear sapphire back as well to show that vintage movement
Rolex vs coaxial Omega would be a better comparison. Lots more in common.
Omega all the way.
People who know nothing about watches are easily impressed by the Rolex...because its Rolex. People who know about watches are impressed by the speedy. I think that about answers the question as to which is the better piece.
My Omega Seamaster is my my daily...recently, I recieved a Daytona two tone gold and black. I must say that it feels more comfortable comparing and Seamaster.....even more comfortable than my Submariner.
Daytona would be my choice as well, the black dial as featured
I have never gotten the hype over the Daytona (and I do love Rolex). When I bought my first chronograph, it had to be a Speedmaster.
Two great watches. No wrong choice here. Daytona is my choice.
Agree!
Indeed
Love the moonwatch - unrivaled history and high adventure , its guts and glory real life events completely and overwhelmingly defeat any Rolex - which no doubt - is the better watch spec for spec for any earthbound man - but then again - so is a high end G shock. The moonwatch is the horological champion of our times - the Rolex - the better tec. Great competition Tim.
I love Speedmaster but here I go with Daytona🥇🏆😍
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I feel like it's worth mentioning, the speedmaster looks so much better in person than on video. When you handle it in person, it looks so much more eye catching and almost dressy in a sense. It plays with the light so well
I'd pick the Speedmaster although the sapphire sandwich variant fir everyday use. You were on the money as always on the review with interaction with the watch more often which I kind of like.
Thanks Tim
I'm from Houston and have owned both. The only Daytona to own is a Zenith-powered Daytona. Otherwise, go with the Speedmaster: far more practical to wear every day.
I am choosing the Rolex Daytona because it is more beautiful and modern then the Omega Speedmaster. I like the screw down chronograph pusher that keep the chronograph from activate accidentally.
mena seven in the hand the omega feels cheap. The Daytona exudes quality.
Would be good to see the same comparison with the Daytona and the 2021 sapphire sandwich moonwatch
The warranty on the Speedy Pro is still only two years. The five year warranty is for the master chronometers only.
I am not sure when the switch happened but now All Omegas get 5 Year warranty. I Purchased a Co-axial speed master in May,2019 which got 5 years and got a Moon watch in June,2019, which also came with 5 year manufacturer's warranty.
Your reviews are top of the line.
Both icons
Anyone saying they are equivalent in quality and the price difference is just because of the Rolex name and marketing has no idea what they are talking about. Handle both and it's instantly obvious the build quality on the Rolex is on another level. The winding action, case back design, bracelet, etc., is excellent on a Rolex. There is no play in the hands and the date changes instantly at midnight. All specs are better, WR and accuracy. Rolex movements are the gold standard in accuracy, durability, reliability, and servicibility.
Are all speedmasters antimagnetic?
I would like to read what time it is..so speedy for me!
Best watch reviewer online.
I have the new Speedy and love it. May eventually get the Daytona, but would get the Panda version because the Speedy's black dial makes the Daytona look like a wantabe.
I realize it's a matter of opinion, but you buy the Daytona if you want the more attractive watch. You buy the Speedmaster for the history. Both are great pieces.
The Moonwatch is a icon. The Daytona is only a Rolex.
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No doubt, the Daytona is a better watch. But at 20% the cost, hard to dismiss the Speedy.
I'd take the daytona just for the thinnest, although I like the panda version better. Then again it's 4x the price of the moonwatch right now, so maybe not a very fair comparison.
Anyone knows how long I can expect to wait if I order a steel Daytona from an authorized dealer?
My dealer told me that I have to first buy some junk Rolex watches(the ones that don’t sell very well) to build a relationship with them. And then they will take my name for a waitlist that has a few years backlog. No thanks. It has become an organized crime now.
They will never call you. If you really want it just pay double retail and have it delivered by next morning.
I like the Daytona better, but the Omega is easier to get and it fits in my budget better. My next watch will probably be the Omega Sapphire Sandwich on a black leather strap.
Buy the sapphire sandwich. I have it and the movement is beautiful for this price range.
@@janbeggebeen I bought my speedmaster for the beautiful back :)
@@hsuhaochang very few people know to appreciate such thing.
but everytime I look at it I marvel at its beauty
im still waiting for the master chronometre speedy versus daytona and b01 navitimer
Two titans. A world of difference in price at retail, nevermind the current secondary market. I'll take the speedy and pocket the 15-20 grand. The daytona however is the superior machine. Better in every way.
0:06 even at this extreme magnification you still cant read the DAYTONA text on the dial.
Both watches are legend....I wore daytona b4 anyone thought it was cool or in high demand. Also, wore the omega speedmaster# both legends
it would de interesting to compare the new speedmaster with the Daytona
For my tastes, I'm not too high on either of these icons...but both are great watches. I would prefer the Daytona though.
Tim, how is the Moon Watch tougher without a full balance bridge or a free sprung balance?
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Mark
lower beat rate.. bigger balance wheel, manual wind, cam based clutch Chronograph:
deployant.com/nasa-certification-end-debate-column-wheel-vs-cam-chronographs/
As someone that once both raced Porsches and flew aircraft I always thought that I should own a Daytona. I looked at them many, many times (back when they were easy to get) and just could not get past the bulky, glitzy, busy look.
I think the Omega is a far more attractive watch.
in switzerland i see only fat people wearing rolex.. i let you think why is that so, for omega +1 with history quality timeless movement
Buy both. Both are great watches, with the two, they will completely blend it and excel in whatever occasions you end up in.
Can anyone tell me what did he mean "purchase new or pre-owned the value proposition does side with omega?" (10:25)
I think he’s saying that a preowned Daytona is even more expensive than a new Speedmaster. So you can buy a new Speedmaster cheaper than an old Daytona. And even cheaper if you buy a preowned Speedmaster.
Great comparison video Tim 👍🏽
I would go Daytona, just because I dont have a big wrist and the Daytona fits me better.
Both Watches are Perfect, go with The Daytona Ceramic because of value and is rare to get one. However, having owned both the Ceramic as well as the vintage Big Red Daytona, I would choose big red Daytona over any watch there is.
A 50 years old designed watch vs a 2016. Are you kidding!?! Compare the Daytona to the modern Omega speed master with the Coax movement. That would be fair and interesting.
If the prices were similar, I'd take the Rolex. But since I bought a brand new Speedy for $3500 online, the Omega is a no brainer
Your really good with words man well said.
Both watches are nice, but the Omega is better value and certainly easier to obtain without getting gouged.
A big negative with the Omega is that there are so many diffferent versions of the Speedmaster that does a wonderful job of confusing the potential buyer.
Great video, Tim. Gotta have both!
In a hypothetical situation, if Daytona is readily available as the Speedy how many of you will choose daytona over speedy?
Heavyweight versus featherweight
benvolio mozart whatever helps you sleep at night
benvolio mozart it is your blind love for a $3k entry level watch that has made you deluded.
benvolio mozart don’t give a rats arse about NASA. You’re not an astronaut are you or nasa employee? The facts are it’s a $3k entry level watch. Deal with that. When you save up and have enough for a Daytona, your delusions will end.
benvolio mozart you’re just a fool
benvolio mozart I’m good mate. You need a pair of glasses and a brain transplant
speedmaster and zenith chronomaster sport 1tenth of a second are better watches than the daytona hollywood hype
By far the biggest difference is you can actually buy the Speedmaster whereas the Daytona is a never ending waitlist
You can get the speedy with sapphire
Watch sleeve fit - Daytona
Watch legibility - Speedmaster.
Speedy also can fit under a shirt cuff.
Never thought of myself as having a brand preference, but I seem to be drawn to Omega. It started when my dad willed me his presentation DeVille from 1976. I now own a dress version and a 41mm Seamaster. To complete this phase of my collection I've been looking at a dressy sports watch, or a sporty dress watch. For me it always seems to come back to the Speedmaster. There's the history of course but the value/price ratio is just insane with Rolex. Rolex is a better brand, but are they a better watch? I say no. Right now my choice is between a "First in Space" and a Moonwatch in Hesalite.
i honestly don't get the Daytona. i find it way over rated. i also think it looks better on Ladies' wrist than men's.
Speed Master ticks all the boxes for me. really an all around GREAT watch.. thanks great review.
I’d go with the Rolex Daytona in spite of the Legendary status of the Omega Speedmaster. As Tim pointed out it’s just better in every respect!👍🏻
Better if you pay way more..... of course.
For me always Rolex
Kevork Nourian no brainer. The quality of rolex is evident if you are lucky to be able to hold both in hand. Anyone thinking the speedy is anywhere near the same quality has never been able to compare objectively. I’d never buy omega. Always rolex for anything under $15k retail
For me always Omega
The Rolex is a better watch. For the price, it sure as hell ought to be. But I still think 40mm is too small for a chronograph. If I'm actually going to use the stopwatch, I'll take the incredible, 46mm, Sinn EZM-10 over either of these.
white or black tim
Another great vid Tim.
The Rolex is too expensive to comfortably wear for me. Hitting my watch against the doorknob would be like putting a dent in my car. The Omega however, for 3-4k secondhand you can wear without worry and bash around and has more of an old-school rough and tumble style to it. The advantage of designs like that is that they still look good when you beat them up a bit. Where a beaten up Daytona just looks like a damaged watch.
I would go for Daytona because I would never ever been on the moon 😂
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@benvolio mozart i am sure the Rolex could easily.
@benvolio mozart where did you get your info from..if it is so please send me the link. Thanks in advance.
Great review and summary. However it's to some extent comparing apples with oranges. The Rolex costs FAR more at the end of the day, though the physical build costs are most likely pretty comparable. The marketing is the difference.
Was Neil wearing a Rolex on the MOON? - No. Did the Rolex pass space environment testing and prove itself in space on multiple occasions No. The speedy is a pure classic it even looks Apollo!. - However both are great watches. Personally I went for a Speedmaster with Sapphire glass, and exhibition back, best of both worlds.
Raw posing power or pure class. The speedy for the class, the Rolex is for flashing around..
Have the speedy but probably the Daytona, however it is close.
Rolex Rolex Rolex!!
What about a mention of the “sapphire sandwich” Moonwatch. It’s not quite the purist’s watch, but it can still take everyday use much better. Just my opinion. However, Daytona still is my choice as well. Great video Tim!
This is a difficult one! The Rolex very luxurious, it just oozes quality! The Omega more workman like, but it’s a legend and I’m interested in space travel and astronomy. I’m also a car enthusiast, classical and new. Even though motor racing, funnily enough never really interested me. Still I can’t choose here...I’d have both! 🙂
Tim, I suspect the Trip-lock of Daytona and GMT is identical to the Submariner and Rolex hides this fact, instead just claiming 100 meters for marketing reasons? Has any one ever investigated this when taking apart the watches?
The triplock crown is the same for the Sub and the Daytona (& GMT among others). However, the Sub has a much thicker caseback that's why it is rated at 300m compared to the 100m rating of the Daytona. Hope that helps. Cheers!
Both are iconic and deserving of inclusion in any collection. If money is no issue, I’m going with Daytona. But the Speedy is serious value for money.
Daytona if you like speculation, Speedmaster if you like watches.
3:25 and a partridge in a pear tree
The Omega is a manual wind by NASA request because they weren't sure how an automatic would fair in zero gravity. To be fair.
I prefer the Moon watch. It’s more of a youthful watch even for a youthful 40something man. It’s the right price for everyday use. It’s proven, been to the moon, NASA preferred. It looks great on any strap. I don’t like the bracelet on it. Rolex makes way better bracelets. The Speedmaster bracelets from the early 70’s match the case better and look timeless. These modern Omega bracelets look dated and belong in 1995. The Daytona as bad ass as it is. It became more of a statement watch due to the hype. It’s no longer thought of a tool/racing watch even though it has a racing heritage. The Daytona does not look good in a strap. Maybe if it was a smaller morevintage size case, then yes. For me I wouldn’t wear it much which is sad because of what it’s worth. Too pricey to wear and tear. If theDaytona was as common as a Submariner and it was priced accordingly ($8-$10k)? Yes, for me I would rock it daily. Still no wrong choice either watch. I’d get both. I’m a Speedy owner and a Date Just guy. If I could find a Daytona at retail I would definitely buy. I won’t buy at double the price.
Speedy and Date Just owner here too...Love them both ! I wouldn't mind a cool Daytona however...but...as you mention yourself,...one can't seem to find them at retail anymore ! Peace :)
$6k Speedmaster > $15K Daytona , all day, everyday, twice on Sundays.
How can you pass over the Daytona? Best watch to have when ordering street tacos. I like the 47mm. Beefy baby beefy. It's what's for dinner. 👍
Who owns both? Let’s here their opinion
Daytona: dressier and feminine
Speedmaster: sportier and masculine
At the end it all depends on what do you want your watch for.
It's not an either/or for me here. Sorry, has to be BOTH.
All they fucking need to do with speedy is to update in forward in one linear path and NOT the sprawl of L.E speedmasters.
Applied logo.
Ceramic Bezel.
Steel lumed plots.
Why such a great watch reviewer would team up with a slime ball such as the Gerbil Entry is beyond me. Tim - much love to you. Do whatever you need to do and make sure you get away from that little dirt bag.
I know I’m in the minority, but don’t understand the love of the Speedmaster...
It’s a watch that hasn’t changed much. It looks vintage yet the design is timeless. For a Chronograph it’s very versatile. Any strap looks good on it. It’s not a homage to anything, plus it’s NASA preferred. Sure it’s not a Daytona (better bracelet, better power reserve, automatic, value retention, also an icon) but, for $3-$5k you get more bang for buck. Plus suited for everyday use, it could be a beater or a safe queen.
golfbuddy1969 we are both in the minority. I bought one in 2014. Sold it a month later. Used to own the 116520 Daytona, it was so much better
M Riley it’s obvious it hasn’t changed, it feels cheap like a watch from the 60s
Nah, overly hyped by watch hipsters. Had one, sold it after a few months... terrible bracelet and clasp
i have the sapphire caseback 1863 movement and is is very pretty to look at.
Open case rolex is interesting but not pretty. when the Daytona was first presented it was Rolexes worst selling watch. Thats how much hype can do to a watch. Now everyone wants one.
The two better watches
Speedmaster subdial are easier to read at a glance