It's kinda funny but also probably accurate that, no matter how dire the situation gets, and no matter how limited their own resources become, NASA never thinks to phone up the Soviet space agency to see if their Lunar cosmonauts can rescue the Apollo.
This actually makes sense. In this exact case, coordinating an ad-hoc rescue between two different space agencies talking different languages using different spacecraft would be a nightmarishly difficult endeavour. Even today, if a Dragon ship had an issue in orbit, it would be functionally impossible for the Russians, Chinese, Europeans or Indians to rescue them. Space travel is monumentally difficult and dangerous, even without improvising frantically. That's why in real life, Apollo 13 was so extraordinary.
The Harry metaphor is so apt, we don't even get to see his wife in mourning and no one brings up his death ever again. That's just hilarious to me for some reason.
Its also crazy just how low tech it was. That massive engine is just a pressure fed karolox engine. It could have put 550 tons into low earth orbit, which is a lot, but this rocket is roughly 27 times the size of Starship, which in theory could put 550 tons into orbit if fully expended (which admittedly defeats a lot of thr point).
@@Hevach Though the size was also part of the point - the idea was, a bigger rocket is not much more expensive than a small one, so why not just make a simple booster _really big?_ Excellent payload to orbit, at affordable rates.
Interesting Idea of building and lunching a space ship from under water, so they can build a larger ship... I still thing it would crumble the moment it left the water But still.
1:15 I don't know if Chuck was trying to poke fun at Idaho, but the joke falls flat for the people who know that one of the few semiconductor companies that still have fabs in the US is Micron Technology...and they're based in Boise, Idaho.
@@Mate397The rocket would be built at a shipyard and towed out to a launch site at sea. The first stage would have ballast tanks that would be filled, causing the rocket to sink. The tanks would then be emptied, causing it to rise, meaning the rocket would already be moving when the first stage was ignited. They actually did do some tests of the concept with smaller rockets and found it to be feasible. The full scale design never went into production presumably because as the space race wound down, there just wasn't any demand for something capable of sending 450 tons of payload to the moon. Which is a pity, because Sea Dragon probably would have made construction of the ISS a hell of a lot easier, or it could have allowed for the construction of something much bigger and more ambitious.
@@Mate397 Apparently, the idea was to reduce costs by not requiring a lot of support systems like a launch pad or service structure. There's a Wikipedia page for "Sea Dragon".
HFS there's WAY too much Dramorz for me to stand this show. EVERYONE is s broken, EVERYTHING goes wrong in the most dramatic way possible, and about the only part I like is the foreign astronaut helping because it's the law/the right thing to do. Hollywood... Learn to write something OTHER than characters being tormented by writers for our amusement!
I do agree to an extent. The tormented characters would stand out more if there weren't so many. And the catastrophic failures would stand out more if they were rarer. But on the other hand, nobody wants to tune in for a routine mission going completely according to plan, so something engaging has to happen. And it risks falling into the habit of constantly escalating spectacle if every episode is "and this time, the catastrophic failure is _even worse!"_ Mind you, I've not watched the show myself (yet; I'm planning to eventually), so I'm more speaking about general television trends. Grain of salt, etc.
@@KianaWolf yeah. Some disasters can happen, and some drama can happen, but this series seems like it has everything go wrong all the time in the most dramatic way possible just for the drama it causes. Edit: Honestly, my favorite part of the series is the Russian guy helping to get the fuel to rescue the other astronauts, even after what's already happened.
At least season one and two had very good science and a well thought out alternate history to balance that out. Starting with season three the writers threw that out the window and now it's just unnecessary drama.
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It's kinda funny but also probably accurate that, no matter how dire the situation gets, and no matter how limited their own resources become, NASA never thinks to phone up the Soviet space agency to see if their Lunar cosmonauts can rescue the Apollo.
This actually makes sense. In this exact case, coordinating an ad-hoc rescue between two different space agencies talking different languages using different spacecraft would be a nightmarishly difficult endeavour. Even today, if a Dragon ship had an issue in orbit, it would be functionally impossible for the Russians, Chinese, Europeans or Indians to rescue them.
Space travel is monumentally difficult and dangerous, even without improvising frantically. That's why in real life, Apollo 13 was so extraordinary.
I liked the way this sort of thing was incorporated into The Martian. They had more time to work things out, in that case.
The Harry metaphor is so apt, we don't even get to see his wife in mourning and no one brings up his death ever again. That's just hilarious to me for some reason.
Poor dumb Harry
14:04 yeah, the rubrik's cube. Pretty cool.
A friggin Sea Dragon? Who else rewinded that part, just so to rewatch the launch?
the Von Braun joke fucking slayed me
"and killed poor Harry." It wasn't until this moment that I put Voyager Harry and this Harry together. Poor Harry.
At least _this_ Harry isn't poor _dumb_ Harry. He had that going for him.
The Seadragon is such a cool concept. Sure, its likely the rocket version of Little Lisa Slurry… but screw them whales
Its also crazy just how low tech it was. That massive engine is just a pressure fed karolox engine. It could have put 550 tons into low earth orbit, which is a lot, but this rocket is roughly 27 times the size of Starship, which in theory could put 550 tons into orbit if fully expended (which admittedly defeats a lot of thr point).
@@Hevach Though the size was also part of the point - the idea was, a bigger rocket is not much more expensive than a small one, so why not just make a simple booster _really big?_ Excellent payload to orbit, at affordable rates.
Had to pause the video after that Deep Space Nein joke 🤣
Interesting Idea of building and lunching a space ship from under water, so they can build a larger ship... I still thing it would crumble the moment it left the water But still.
the sea dragon was a real plan for a spacecraft by nasa
As a german, Deep Space Nein is really good. :)
I prefer Nächste Generation but that show was good too
1:15 I don't know if Chuck was trying to poke fun at Idaho, but the joke falls flat for the people who know that one of the few semiconductor companies that still have fabs in the US is Micron Technology...and they're based in Boise, Idaho.
I'm sorry did they just launch a space rocket from the bottom of the ocean?
It's a real rocket design that NASA considered. It sounds insane, but it was viable.
@@Cailus3542 I honestly never heard of this concept. What was the main idea behind it?
@@Mate397The rocket would be built at a shipyard and towed out to a launch site at sea. The first stage would have ballast tanks that would be filled, causing the rocket to sink. The tanks would then be emptied, causing it to rise, meaning the rocket would already be moving when the first stage was ignited.
They actually did do some tests of the concept with smaller rockets and found it to be feasible. The full scale design never went into production presumably because as the space race wound down, there just wasn't any demand for something capable of sending 450 tons of payload to the moon.
Which is a pity, because Sea Dragon probably would have made construction of the ISS a hell of a lot easier, or it could have allowed for the construction of something much bigger and more ambitious.
@@Mate397 Apparently, the idea was to reduce costs by not requiring a lot of support systems like a launch pad or service structure. There's a Wikipedia page for "Sea Dragon".
@@MrSaywutnow Using buoyancy to provide the initial acceleration. Ingenious.
_help me make the most of freedom, and of pleasure_
_nothing ever lasts forever_
_Everybody wants to rule the world_
6:07 No, Pam gives Karen pity after learning she is Karen Baldwin because the whole nation knows about shane
HFS there's WAY too much Dramorz for me to stand this show.
EVERYONE is s broken, EVERYTHING goes wrong in the most dramatic way possible, and about the only part I like is the foreign astronaut helping because it's the law/the right thing to do.
Hollywood... Learn to write something OTHER than characters being tormented by writers for our amusement!
I do agree to an extent. The tormented characters would stand out more if there weren't so many. And the catastrophic failures would stand out more if they were rarer. But on the other hand, nobody wants to tune in for a routine mission going completely according to plan, so something engaging has to happen. And it risks falling into the habit of constantly escalating spectacle if every episode is "and this time, the catastrophic failure is _even worse!"_
Mind you, I've not watched the show myself (yet; I'm planning to eventually), so I'm more speaking about general television trends. Grain of salt, etc.
@@KianaWolf yeah. Some disasters can happen, and some drama can happen, but this series seems like it has everything go wrong all the time in the most dramatic way possible just for the drama it causes.
Edit:
Honestly, my favorite part of the series is the Russian guy helping to get the fuel to rescue the other astronauts, even after what's already happened.
At least season one and two had very good science and a well thought out alternate history to balance that out.
Starting with season three the writers threw that out the window and now it's just unnecessary drama.