I'm glad you mentioned that the Mercurys had Raptor launch tubes, something that's never mentioned and you'd only notice if you looked hard at its flight pods.
The old raptor might not be the most glorious craft but it did its job with all the reliability of a Toyota truck. There can’t be higher praise for anything that spends it life working then to be compared to the toughest truck on planet earth
In concept a bit like the Eagle from Space 1999. A versatile _rugged_ workhorse that could do anything, without the fluff of larger ships just adding extras on extras. Based around a simple chassis thats pragmatic and utilitarian.
I like the Raptor. But when I see it and hear about all the things it's meant to be able to do (Scout, SAR, ECM, personnel carrier, heavy assault vehicle) I can't help but be reminded of the scenes with Richard Schiff in Pentagon Wars about the Bradley Fighting Vehicle... Like there's gotta be some Colonial Commander who was in charge of designing the thing who got anxiety from it.
I played hours and hours of that game, but I hated the imbalance, everyone wanted to be a colonial, also I did not like the story and that there wasn't an end goal.
I have versions of Raptors in my novels they're called Marauder class gunships, they're scouts, assault craft and transports, they have stealth capabilities and hyper drives..
I know that is a bit off topic, but does anyone knows how heat management in the Expanse works? I just had to think about it because so many ships in sci fi don't have those sail like radiators, like those on the ISS, or something familiar for that job, at least not visible.
No concrete answer there. There's mentioning of "heat sinks" in regards to stealth frigates, and there seems to be one hypothesis about using water as a medium to dump heat into, then using the steam as propellant in RCS. But... again, no concrete answer.
@@cy-one heat-sinks would just store the heat internally and gradually radiate it outwards, that's what made the stealth ships so hard to detect prior to combat. They weren't getting rid of their heat, they were storing it but that technology isn't perfect and won't ever be perfect because of the laws of thermodynamics. But I think we're onto something with the idea of using water for cooling, letting the heat turn it into steam then using that as propellant, in the books it's stated numerous times that at least the Roci gets around using superheated steam... So it's only reasonable to assume that that's what every dedicated spacecraft in The Expanse universe uses. For dropships, shuttles etc. It may well be something different. After all we know that the Goliath powered armour used by the MMC Force Recon marines uses Hydrazine for the "jetpack".
Agreed, but I always wished it were a bit bigger. More the size of a Runabout from Star Trek or the "Huey" helicopter from, uh, the US Army. I think I read somewhere that it was meant to be bigger but budget/logistic restrictions (it's like a set within a set) forced them to make it smaller. So my head cannon is like the Raptors are the size of a Huey (UH-1, and just the cab not the tail/rotor) and the Vipers more the size of a Viper (F-16).
@@truesus1718 Yeah, that was one thing I could tell right off the bat, that it was definitely a practical restriction on the show's part to make it so small. Still, it's size at least makes sense in-universe as well.
Welcome to the new video narrator/producer! I love these craft, they’re just very cool. If I were somehow translocated to the BSG universe and in Fleet I would want to be in the Raptor.
I always thought the raptor was too small for her abilities. Especially atmospheric flight. Love the design visually, but I can't help but compare to the E2 Hawkeye which is significantly larger.
GREAT VIDEO! The closer to perfection you get, the harder it is to get there. For example. The "civilian" version of the Raptor (Red and white paintjob) was used for SAR missions all the way back during the First Cylon War. You see this at the End of Blood and Chrome when Husker and Coker are rescued by a raptor which is the same design as what you see in "The Plan". I would go so far as to say the Raptor as we know it today was designed somewhere at the end of the first Cylon war as a SAR platform which eventually evolved into a ECM platform.
The Raptor never really gets enough love. Humanity would not have survived without it. But none of the cast ever appreciated it like they did with Vipers and Battlestars.
It's interesting how Race Track ends up such an integral part of the survival of the colonists, nearly every time by accident. One thing that isn't mentioned here is how Race Track is also SPOILERS SEASON 1: piloting the raptor with Boomer at the end of season 1, when Boomer deposits the nuke and discovers she's a cylon, shortly before shooting Adama. Race Track witnesses that shooting, if I remember correctly she's standing directly next to Adama when it happens. She basically has a front row view of several of the most important events of the Colonial odyssey. She's also a mutineer, when that unfortunate incident happens. One of my most favorite lines of dialogue in the entire series is Lee Adama's total shock over realizing that Race Track and Skulls are part of it: "Race Track? Skulls? I flew with them!" By the end of the series, Lee is my favorite character. Wasn't in the beginning. But Jesus did the writers take him in amazing directions. And Jamie Bamber was brilliant.
Loved the ending of the series. Adama: "if their are not enough to crew Galactica I will lead a raptor assault with anyone willing to join me. " Chills every time I watch that scene.
I know in the bsg universe space fighter planes are mostly a thing cause people want to see ww2 style dogfights in space, but from a practicle standpoint imagine if the galactica only had raptors? Their not as maneuverable as vapors but their capable gunships with guided missiles out the wazoo so they could probable still tear through hordes of raiders by themselves. Aside from being usable transports their ftl capable so their actually more useful for long range hit and run attacks than vipers. From a practical standpoint aside from maneuverability (which realistically matters fuck all in space) what do vipers really bring to the table than raptors couldn't fulfill themselves.
Does anyone else feel in retrospect the Raptor was perhaps a bit too capable for such a small design? It feels like it logically would have been spread across a few more hull designs. But from the point of few of the TV show it allowed for very economic story telling and SFX work.
perhaps, but maybe not. if you remove the fancy bells and whistles its a ftl drive with a empty box and a 2-3 man crew. its easy enough to strap some sensors on and some drones and hook up a control console in the box, or leave it empty for transport. and id imagine its similar for the missiles on the assault variant. not sure about the gatling cannons though
As a small utility craft it was a well designed vehicle, and I suspect part of its design was because it was portable enough to be used as a prop on the set. For transporting people however it was woofully inadequate. Especially as in show it seemed to be the only for people and goods to be moved among the ships of the ragtag fleet. It's like using EA6 Prowler as a transport aircraft. The amount of Raptors needed to shuttle people and good along the RTF would mean the entire Galactica and Pegasus Raptor squadrons would be kept busy, and not available for combat duties. At least in the original BSG series they had a much larger transport ship. It looked boxey and ugly as f***, but it was a believable transporter. Ironically Colonial One, the spacecraft that was the heart of the Colonial government of the RTF was essentially that much larger transport ship that could shuttle larger numbers of people and goods. It could even land aboard a battlestar.
Considering that most of the time we were following military or government personnel, seeing Raptors makes sense. I imagine there were also a fair number of civilian shuttles that we just didn't see all that often. We also saw ships connect directly to Galactica for water, so there was probably docking for other bulk supplies/equipment too.
@@hoojiwana The information was great, but I hope you don't mind if I make a suggestion to improve delivery. My only suggestion would be to try to make it sound less like you are reading from a script, at times during the video it sounded like you were reading one word then saying that word, then reading and saying the next, if you could read a sentence, and then say that sentence, or even just read a few words ahead so it sounds like you are talking naturally rather than reading one word at a time, I think it would sound better. I hope I'm making sense there, and again, no offense intended and you are of course free to completely ignore my suggestion, I know a video like this is a lot of work, so thanks for the effort you clearly put into this.
@@terryforsdyke306 Oh yeah I know exactly what you mean, its an artifact of audio editing and combining different takes. I'm getting better at it all the time though so I can avoid the things that cause me to have to create some of the stilted dialogue.
Ok, just started the video and heard him make reference to the Phoenix and other BSG pre Cylon war ships. Where is this info coming from?! I want to read it or check out any cool art or stories!
Thank you! I barely watched the first few episodes and probably just reverted to SG1 viewing around that time. It seemed pretty good, but a different critter than BSG.
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Behind every great Viper or Galactica moment there is a Raptor making it possible.
The Viper may be the shiny example of colonial spaceships but the Raptor is the real mvp
I think you'll find the real mvp is battlestar flak
SO SAY WE ALL!
"Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make history." -- Lt. Jake Grafton. (Flight of the Intruder)
I'm glad you mentioned that the Mercurys had Raptor launch tubes, something that's never mentioned and you'd only notice if you looked hard at its flight pods.
The old raptor might not be the most glorious craft but it did its job with all the reliability of a Toyota truck. There can’t be higher praise for anything that spends it life working then to be compared to the toughest truck on planet earth
In concept a bit like the Eagle from Space 1999.
A versatile _rugged_ workhorse that could do anything, without the fluff of larger ships just adding extras on extras.
Based around a simple chassis thats pragmatic and utilitarian.
Big thanks to Hoojiwana for his awesome work on this vid!
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bloodred927... Someone had a rebrand.
@@Jaydee8652 You saw nothing
I'm in love
Love this video. The Raptor is basically like an old VW Beetle that just won't die and got you from point A to point B. Looking forward to more.
“Flying pillbox”
-BSG blood and chrome ensign adama
Yes! I love the raptor so much. So glad I finally finished BSG.
One of the greatest sci fi shows of recent years , looking forward to seeing what the new series looks like.
New series?
@@cy-one yeah definitely on the horizon , do a quick internet search.
Fun the BSG version of the shuttlecraft.
The more durable, less prone to getting blown up for lolz, more adaptable version
@@seanwhitman8353 Fair enough, maybe more like a runabout from DS9.
A shuttlecraft with some sharp teeth!
@@spethmanjones2997 I always thought of a Huey helicopter...
@@phillipcollier4055 This. It's basically the scifi equivalent of a modern multipurpose helicopter.
What a Swiss Army Knife! Great vid, guys!
Welcome Hoojiwana! I'm sure that with practice you will become a great member of the Spacedock team!
Glad to be here for the month! I hope everyone enjoys the content.
lets Hoojiwana up to 1000 subscribers
I like the Raptor. But when I see it and hear about all the things it's meant to be able to do (Scout, SAR, ECM, personnel carrier, heavy assault vehicle) I can't help but be reminded of the scenes with Richard Schiff in Pentagon Wars about the Bradley Fighting Vehicle... Like there's gotta be some Colonial Commander who was in charge of designing the thing who got anxiety from it.
Pentagon wars is a comedy…don’t take it literally as a documentery
@@stevegeve1200 I don't. It's bullshit in regards to its accuracy. I'm just saying the Raptor reminds me of that scene.
The Raptors might be the hardest-working craft in the Colonial Fleet.
i miss so god damn much the game "battlestar galactica online". never found out a substitute in terms of game mechanics
Just thought of BGO, when did it get shitcanned?
I played hours and hours of that game, but I hated the imbalance, everyone wanted to be a colonial, also I did not like the story and that there wasn't an end goal.
@@annelisemeier283 feb 1 2019 according to wikipedia
The server mergers didnt help... Suddenly a bunch of stupid high level guys in cyclon fighters griefing everything...
@@AdmiralJT like that frakker, Scar?
The BSG is My most love. Thanks so much!
If I had to choose one small spacecraft, this would be it
Just finished watching BSG then this Appeared, Great Timing love your vids as always.
I'm so glad to see Hoojiwana cooperating with this channel, his stuff is great!
Just a note, there were 4 "unofficial" variants of the raptor. each of these was named "Talon" A through D.
I have versions of Raptors in my novels they're called Marauder class gunships, they're scouts, assault craft and transports, they have stealth capabilities and hyper drives..
I know that is a bit off topic, but does anyone knows how heat management in the Expanse works? I just had to think about it because so many ships in sci fi don't have those sail like radiators, like those on the ISS, or something familiar for that job, at least not visible.
No concrete answer there.
There's mentioning of "heat sinks" in regards to stealth frigates, and there seems to be one hypothesis about using water as a medium to dump heat into, then using the steam as propellant in RCS.
But... again, no concrete answer.
@@cy-one heat-sinks would just store the heat internally and gradually radiate it outwards, that's what made the stealth ships so hard to detect prior to combat. They weren't getting rid of their heat, they were storing it but that technology isn't perfect and won't ever be perfect because of the laws of thermodynamics. But I think we're onto something with the idea of using water for cooling, letting the heat turn it into steam then using that as propellant, in the books it's stated numerous times that at least the Roci gets around using superheated steam... So it's only reasonable to assume that that's what every dedicated spacecraft in The Expanse universe uses. For dropships, shuttles etc. It may well be something different. After all we know that the Goliath powered armour used by the MMC Force Recon marines uses Hydrazine for the "jetpack".
I did not know Mercury Battlestars had Raptor launch tubes.
I always thought the raptor was a great if not one of the best small sci-fi craft designs.
Agreed, but I always wished it were a bit bigger. More the size of a Runabout from Star Trek or the "Huey" helicopter from, uh, the US Army. I think I read somewhere that it was meant to be bigger but budget/logistic restrictions (it's like a set within a set) forced them to make it smaller. So my head cannon is like the Raptors are the size of a Huey (UH-1, and just the cab not the tail/rotor) and the Vipers more the size of a Viper (F-16).
@@truesus1718 Yeah, that was one thing I could tell right off the bat, that it was definitely a practical restriction on the show's part to make it so small. Still, it's size at least makes sense in-universe as well.
Yoo 10 minute video on the raptor let’s go!
Racetrack went out like a boss. So Say We All!
So say we all!
Chuckles bought the farm 🙁
@@sci-figuy6668 at least he was surprised
Welcome to the new video narrator/producer!
I love these craft, they’re just very cool. If I were somehow translocated to the BSG universe and in Fleet I would want to be in the Raptor.
Pilot with important mission gets killed, an meteorite completes the mission, the luck is over 9000.
The Raptors are the BSG version of the Voyager shuttlecraft... no matter how many they lose they always have loads more!
Watching a video on the Raptor while playing some BSG deadlock 😀. Looking fwd to the next one
You improved alot since this video! Good job
I always thought the raptor was too small for her abilities. Especially atmospheric flight. Love the design visually, but I can't help but compare to the E2 Hawkeye which is significantly larger.
Sci-Fi future technology mate. That'll do something to size
Subbed to Hoojiwana a while back, glad to see he's getting a neat platform!
GREAT VIDEO! The closer to perfection you get, the harder it is to get there. For example. The "civilian" version of the Raptor (Red and white paintjob) was used for SAR missions all the way back during the First Cylon War. You see this at the End of Blood and Chrome when Husker and Coker are rescued by a raptor which is the same design as what you see in "The Plan". I would go so far as to say the Raptor as we know it today was designed somewhere at the end of the first Cylon war as a SAR platform which eventually evolved into a ECM platform.
Love the Raptor design, so versatile.
The Raptor never really gets enough love. Humanity would not have survived without it. But none of the cast ever appreciated it like they did with Vipers and Battlestars.
Raptor, a very underrated ship!
One of the best designs I have ever seen.
My compliments to Hoojiwana on an excellent video. Entertaining, informative, well executed.
Here is a challenge. Ship breakdown of the police cruiser from space Precinct
It's like the UH-60 Blackhawk of the BSG universe
There is actually a tiltjet version of the Blackhawk in the BSG universe in the Caprica show, and its part of the lineage of the Raptor!
@@hoojiwana woah, nice!
@@hoojiwana link or pics?
I have the same Logitech attack III joystick the dude on the back has.
This was a great video on one of my favorite small ships
Nice job! Looking forward to more from you!
that was AWESOME!!! VERY thorough and knowledgable. Made me want to run out and buy a Colonial Raptor. Lmao. WELL DONE!
It's interesting how Race Track ends up such an integral part of the survival of the colonists, nearly every time by accident.
One thing that isn't mentioned here is how Race Track is also SPOILERS SEASON 1: piloting the raptor with Boomer at the end of season 1, when Boomer deposits the nuke and discovers she's a cylon, shortly before shooting Adama.
Race Track witnesses that shooting, if I remember correctly she's standing directly next to Adama when it happens.
She basically has a front row view of several of the most important events of the Colonial odyssey. She's also a mutineer, when that unfortunate incident happens. One of my most favorite lines of dialogue in the entire series is Lee Adama's total shock over realizing that Race Track and Skulls are part of it:
"Race Track? Skulls? I flew with them!"
By the end of the series, Lee is my favorite character. Wasn't in the beginning. But Jesus did the writers take him in amazing directions. And Jamie Bamber was brilliant.
Lee did took several ships into "amazing directions" .. usually into something else (another ship.. a sun.. )
@@sparrowlt That last image of the Colonial fleet entering the Sun is just...beautiful.
Loved the ending of the series.
Adama: "if their are not enough to crew Galactica I will lead a raptor assault with anyone willing to join me. "
Chills every time I watch that scene.
They're*
So say they all!
ISA Intruder or the Helghast Overlord, please! :-D
Love this video and channel, thanks for sharing! I just subscribed 😁
The true “workhorse” of the fleet.
A great addition to the new series that saw a lot of action
I know in the bsg universe space fighter planes are mostly a thing cause people want to see ww2 style dogfights in space, but from a practicle standpoint imagine if the galactica only had raptors? Their not as maneuverable as vapors but their capable gunships with guided missiles out the wazoo so they could probable still tear through hordes of raiders by themselves.
Aside from being usable transports their ftl capable so their actually more useful for long range hit and run attacks than vipers. From a practical standpoint aside from maneuverability (which realistically matters fuck all in space) what do vipers really bring to the table than raptors couldn't fulfill themselves.
a damn fine ship.. and a damn fine video.
great video, thank you
Ummm Daniel ... I know we're married but I'm taking a lover ... this guys good
@User 905 so what is wrong with gay? You are still stuck on gender? Really?
I think the Raptor is part of why I love the Terrapin in Star Citizen
Love BSG 😊👍
That was a good addition to the show.
The true backbone of the fleet.
Is there any role this ship is not capable of? The only thing that seems missing is a coffee maker.
i think im gonna fall asleep listening to this
Well done!
Can you do the adamant frigate or arachne cruiser from battlestar galactica deadlock please?
Well if you head to my channel there are videos on those exact two ships, though they're not Spacedock breakdowns like the Proving Grounds videos.
I miss Battlestar Online (before server mergers)
I like the more tone down voice over the THIS IS THE BEST STORE ON THE PLANET
Watched this guys breakdown of Deadlock ships, pretty good stuff and hope to see more of him
The salvaged FTL was from a Raider not a heavy Raider.
Yooo go Hooji!!
I do go!
@@hoojiwana To Space. In Raptors, apparently!
Raptor is simply awesome so say we all : )
Beautiful design.
Information is ammunition.
Wait, wasn't there a year between settling on New Captiva and the occupation?
Can you do a video on the bad batch's shuttle?
Workhorse of the fleet
Does anyone else feel in retrospect the Raptor was perhaps a bit too capable for such a small design? It feels like it logically would have been spread across a few more hull designs. But from the point of few of the TV show it allowed for very economic story telling and SFX work.
perhaps, but maybe not. if you remove the fancy bells and whistles its a ftl drive with a empty box and a 2-3 man crew. its easy enough to strap some sensors on and some drones and hook up a control console in the box, or leave it empty for transport. and id imagine its similar for the missiles on the assault variant. not sure about the gatling cannons though
Raptor pilot reporting, 3 tours on caprica server!!
As a small utility craft it was a well designed vehicle, and I suspect part of its design was because it was portable enough to be used as a prop on the set. For transporting people however it was woofully inadequate. Especially as in show it seemed to be the only for people and goods to be moved among the ships of the ragtag fleet. It's like using EA6 Prowler as a transport aircraft. The amount of Raptors needed to shuttle people and good along the RTF would mean the entire Galactica and Pegasus Raptor squadrons would be kept busy, and not available for combat duties. At least in the original BSG series they had a much larger transport ship. It looked boxey and ugly as f***, but it was a believable transporter. Ironically Colonial One, the spacecraft that was the heart of the Colonial government of the RTF was essentially that much larger transport ship that could shuttle larger numbers of people and goods. It could even land aboard a battlestar.
Considering that most of the time we were following military or government personnel, seeing Raptors makes sense. I imagine there were also a fair number of civilian shuttles that we just didn't see all that often. We also saw ships connect directly to Galactica for water, so there was probably docking for other bulk supplies/equipment too.
the Raptor from x4 is a very impressive ship you shod check it out
SMOOTH
Raptor pilots flyin high...raptor pilots flying high...raptor pilots flyin by......
The Jeep of the Colonies!
90 new subs since I watched you go boy
UH-60 of the fleet
More like an SH-60B Seahawk. A Blackhawk can carry more people than a Raptor (and a Seahawk) because they don't carry all that equipment.
8:05 Defender in the top left
This was more like a BSG summary than about Raptors.
Reminds me of Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk and Y-wing fighter.
If someone wanted to start watching Battlestar where should they start?
season one episode one , or if you can start with Blood and chrome
Thanks
The MH-60 of the Colonials
Does the audio sound off to anyone?
Kat Racetrack and Skulls all died badly all died and Were heroes. so say we all!
I can get used to listening to more of this guy, just could be a bit more enthusiastic
I'm relatively new to narration in general, still working things out. Thank you for the feedback!
@@hoojiwana
The information was great, but I hope you don't mind if I make a suggestion to improve delivery.
My only suggestion would be to try to make it sound less like you are reading from a script, at times during the video it sounded like you were reading one word then saying that word, then reading and saying the next, if you could read a sentence, and then say that sentence, or even just read a few words ahead so it sounds like you are talking naturally rather than reading one word at a time, I think it would sound better.
I hope I'm making sense there, and again, no offense intended and you are of course free to completely ignore my suggestion, I know a video like this is a lot of work, so thanks for the effort you clearly put into this.
@@terryforsdyke306 Oh yeah I know exactly what you mean, its an artifact of audio editing and combining different takes. I'm getting better at it all the time though so I can avoid the things that cause me to have to create some of the stilted dialogue.
Cobra Mk3 next please
Ok, just started the video and heard him make reference to the Phoenix and other BSG pre Cylon war ships. Where is this info coming from?! I want to read it or check out any cool art or stories!
The Phoenix and Blackhawk tiltjets are from the Caprica TV show
Thank you! I barely watched the first few episodes and probably just reverted to SG1 viewing around that time. It seemed pretty good, but a different critter than BSG.
@@hoojiwana thanks boss
You gotta do a breakdown of the recent UFO leaks haha
Still nothing about the Blood and Chrome Variant?!?
one raptor is the only non-sun trace of colonial tech as Adama kept his.
no problem
Huh, all these years, I thought racetrack was alive