New Helmets being tested by F-22 Pilots
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2023
- Select F-22 pilots are testing a new helmet, which is lighter and more versatile than today's HGU 55 helmets worn by most aircrews. Check out how Raptor pilots are testing these helmets, what that means for the Air Force, and future aircraft.
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I recently saw the F-22 demo team at the fort Lauderdale Air show, it was the most unbelievable display of military airmanship I've ever seen in my life. So inspiring. It's impossible for me to even consider that they could improve on something like the F-22 with the ngad. Although I am sure that people in the 40's thought the very same of the p51
NGAD sounds like a different concept altogether. I hope they don't forget about the dogfight.
Those demonstrations don’t really show real world capabilities but the F-22 is extremely hard to be in a dogfight.
The problem is that it’s getting more and more rare for fighters to enter into the merge and have an actual dogfight because seeking and tracking technology is so good that in order for two planes to get within 10 miles of each other they both are extremely likely to die.
What they say is that a lot had to go wrong for two fighters to enter into the merge.
That being said, they made an NGAD mod for DCS and it did to the F-22 what the F-22 does to other fighters and the physics weren’t out of this world or anything but can the US improve on the technology?
Who knows but their main focus is beyond visual range. Not dogfighting
Imagine how insane the son of Blackbird is
I finally got to see an F-22 doing Raptor stuff last year at the Cold Lake, Alberta Airshow. It is absolutely amazing what that plane can do. Up until then, I had only ever seen an MXR do a backflip or a tail slide in flight, and that's a tiny stunt plane. The aerial feats that the F-22 is capable of is absolutely mind blowing for such a large aircraft. I'm accustomed to legacy Hornets doing some pretty wild maneuvers at air shows (min radius turns, high alpha, pirouettes), but that Raptor is truly in a class of its own with how it can just flip itself around at will and then keep going like it was flying straight and level the entire time.
@@scoutworks Sukhoi jets are impressive with some of their manoeuvres but they seem to move around a bit. F22 looks so locked in doing the same thing. Flight control systems must be something else.
These helmets coupled with eventual 6th Gen fighters will certainly be an enormous asset in their own right, I think. Lets see what end of test results say. Oughta be interesting.
Not an expert myself but many of them claim 6th gen will be more of a hub to coordinate drones. So it might not even perform much better than what we have today. Hopefully it's not the case, I know militaries Will do what they always did and pick the seemingly best option but I hope we don't abandon jet fighters in favor of drones.
I'm expecting 6th gen to be super stealth due to RAS (radar absorbing structure) composites used for construction with it being the logical next step. I expect reasons including increased radar range and coverage for linking to drones, ease of connecting to developing spaced based tracking/detection /targeting systems, further enhance benefits of stealth, better kinematics for missile launch extending current munitions range, that'll they will operate at the altitude/speed of the yf12/sr71 taking advantage of variable bypass engines.
The f-35 is just on a whole different level
I hope this new helmet will finally give Raptor pilots HOBS targeting capability so they can make full use of the AIM-9X.
It's possible, but given that the missile is carried internally and partially under the body of the jet, it may not be that great of an asset. Lock on after launch would be much more useable. Let's not forget the raptor is extremely maneuverable, meaning that even without HOBS, it's likely to get a lock on solution before the enemy, while being in a better kinematic position.
Making use of HOBS requires LOAL for a heat seeker (outside being cued by HMS or das eg f35) to begin with even wing mounted doesn't it? as targets outside the seekers field of view would need it anyway.
@@madarius76 Negative. HOBS is a capability of the missile based off of its seeker-head's max angle. The 9x has a reported max angle of about 80-90 degrees. In fact, the primary use of the hmcs with heat seekers is to directly control the seeker head of the missile to gain a lock before launch. The pilots and their helmets have a fairly restricted ability to turn their head without turning their shoulders, which makes controlling their plane difficult. And the radar's gimbal is even narrower. So without a visual lock or a radar lock, the heat seeker has no idea what its looking for.
@@Blu0tuth0ninja couldn't the helmet feed data to the seeker in the bay? To pre load where it's going to fly before leaving the bay realistically? I don't know though. I'm definitely not knowledgeable in the subject.
HMCS, IRST/EOTS, DAS, etc are all planned for the F-22, the question is when those will be integrated because those have been planned for a long time but have always been postponed
from Lockheed standpoint the F-35is a lot more profitable for them - cheaper to make - so they always ask for too much money
when talk about relaunching F-22 begun (2019~2020) they asked Lockheed, they obviously said it would cost too much because they simply do not want to build more
NOTE: the reason is that when they were given the contract they signed on a target price-per-unit, they cannot escape that clause, which means that the profit margin was "only" enough for the CEOs to be able to afford 1 mega-yacht instead of 2
The F35 is a beast
One of the COOLEST CARS I ever owned was my 2004 Grand Prix, Comp-G. It had the HUD on my windshield! When I bought that car, I couldn't believe I was driving it home. It had the MPH, outdoor temp, and (I think) direction on it in green. It was a trued HUD projected onto the windshield from below. Astonishingly, General Motors quit making it available.
I mean nowadays you can get a HUD on most GMs like the Camro and Corvette.
My wife just purchased a BMW sedan, and I love driving it. All the controls are cock-pit like, with a full-color HUD that projects the speed, speed limit, road hazards, compass, and the navigation map onto the windshield. In certain modes, it has this thing where it shows how to get the best mpg by showing energy management in an intuitive way. It’s so cool.
Also… i wish you kept that car! I LOVE those era of Pontiacs! Holden’s influence of Pontiacs of that era were so cool.
My personal fav being the GTO. They had the best paint color ever, with that “brazen orange”
Cadillacs use to even have a little HUD that was night vision
@@dan725 That IS cool!
Dang, that’s SUPER advanced.
Also super expensive.
@@andyl6742 Of course It is. It’s the USA lol
@@andyl6742 At least the US stuff works. Patriot might be expensive but it can intercept Russia's "invincible' Kinzhal
In a Beyond Visual Range or BVR engagement, when a fighter is defending he goes cold.
What that means is that he turns to fly at a 90 degree angle to his bandit to trick radar guided missiles and make him difficult to track by them but they call it going cold because in that position you go blind as well and lose track of where your bandit is and you have to turn back towards the bandit and not only find him on radar but you have to be able to track and lock him.
The radar dish classically has to be able to point in the direction of your bandit.
This new radar means that the F-35 will be able to at least keep track of where his bandit is at ALL times.
When you get defensive in a BVR fight having situational awareness while defending is extremely important because if they are able to push you by keeping you on the defensive they control the engagement but if you are able to keep track of them and get a lock before you recommit to the fight you could even conceivably fire back while still being in a defensive posture.
When the new missiles they’re developing become available the US will have a huge advantage in aerial combat because they will be able to carry twice as many missiles and have much greater range giving them a huge edge in the fight
I was under the impression that the above maneuver is called 'Notching' or 'Beaming' going cold is flying directly away from an opponent in order to increase the distance the missile has to travel but is only used when outside of the mimimum disengage zone otherwise you guarantee yourself death.
Notching to my knowledge also only works against pulse doppler radars, but they are resistant to chaff.
@@fvlminata3999 notching is where you fly just within the gimble limit of your radar so you can continue to guide your own missiles while evading.
Anytime you are unable to see an enemy because you point your nose away from them outside the gimbal limit you have gone cold
@@fvlminata3999 if I’m wrong blame Growling Sidewinder. I get all my information from his channel😂
@@7gmeister I believe that one is cranking, though im not an infalliable source!
I can see where that comes from though, typically you would missile off, crank, then into a notch, or at least thats the way ive been taught with VtolVR and DCS
Utilizing GaN chips in the new radar will also boost power efficiency in a HUGE way over GaAs...so it will be more capable AND use less power. This will reduce stress on the engine and electrical generation systems, and will help everything perform much better. Even if the AN/APG-85's ONLY upgrade was switching from GaAs to GaNs, this would still be a huge improvement...but I'm sure it will come with many more upgrades as well on top of that!
I was just wondering the other day, if you were going to make a video about the new helmet. Very informative, thanks Tog! My opinion is that the Raptor most likely won’t get a HUD upgrade.
For quite a while now about 1/3 of F-22 Raptor's have been using Scorpion Monocle System!
They look cool and that's what matters most.
Interesting. I remember listening to an interview from a f22 pilot a couple of years ago. He said a HMD wasn't needed as the raptor was that good. And that it would be unlikely to ever get it due to cost. Funny how quickly that has changed with recent world events.
Only in dogfights though. In bvr which is what the raptor is supposed to do it doesn’t need one
IIRC, they've tested the Thales Scorpion helmet display on the Raptor. It's designed to simply clip on monocle to the existing helmet so cockpit space won't be a constraint. Feedback from pilots was reported to be favorable but for some reason it was not adopted.
Ooh Textreme. Very classy.
superb content.😍
Vert great video 👍
If they are designing with the canopy constraints in mind, then we are likely to see this cine to the F22.
With this new tracking system even if the new NGAD fighter isn't really made for dog fights this new radar will still give it a better advantage especially with it and it's drones having the same capability.
Maybe - and it's just a thought - the F-22's cockpit canopy might have room for a simplified helmet mounted missile cueing system, while flight data such as course, altitude, speed etc. being called via an audio system instead of visually. I've heard an F-35 pilot say that the data in his visor at times was too much and that in flight his eyes were tring very rapidly from focusing inside the visor and then back out again, etc., etc. also at times changing his depth perception. Maybe voice overs in the cockpit can help reduce the congestion of data displayed while enabling a somewhat simpler helmet design than say JHMCS. Since the F-22 does not have a distributed aperture like the F-35, it might give F-22 pilots a little bit of extra edge in air-air without having to implement and integrate complex equipement.
The Missile knows everything at all time
It knows this because it knows when the helmet can lock enemy bandits 80 degrees from the nose
Soo are they going to get HMD allowing better use of H.O.B fox-2
Let's take a look then.
F-22 will NEVER have an HMD.
Its on its way out.
Sidewinder can do a 180 turn
Yes, because they have one already.
The subscribe bell ping was a bit loud
thanks for the feedback, I'll lower the gain on that part of the audio
You didn't mention DASH IV
F*ck!! Mad respect for this edit that’s goes just sooo hard 🤌🏼💪🏼
Hey can you do a video about an anti missile missile for fighter jets, because I read a report from thedrive, about how us air force is investing money in a anti missile missile that could be carried and launched from a jet
do pilots get shorter on how many G's they pull?
Not sure about that, but my understanding is that you lose 1/10 of an inch of height each time you eject.
@@PilotPhotog do pilots initially gain thier height back overtime after they ejected?
(btw amazing videos, very educational and interesting especially for my future career as a pilot)
@@StrangestOwlNL Congrats on deciding to become a pilot! It is an incredibly rewarding career and experience. To answer your question - I believe that the height reduction is permanent due to the massive g forces experienced during ejections - it does beat the alternative though!
@@PilotPhotog may there be any way of reversing it? on my research it says its temporary but im not an expert here :)
@@StrangestOwlNL not sure, let me make a community post to find out
TMFA!
What, exactly, does a Helmet-Mounted Display have to do with the canopy??? The engineers created a canopy that would restrict the pilots head movement??? That is, IF they had the foresight to consider such an improvement as a helmet mounted display.
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Bro what? Why do some of these pilots have soviet logos on their helmets?
😂
They fly as aggressors in the fighter weapons school (Top Gun) and play the role of the pilots and aircraft from potential adversaries - the jets have red stars on them and patterns that are used by Russia or China
8:19 poeple have to stop overhyping, exaggerating the abilities and capabilities of russian and chinese equipment just so that they can compare them to the US.
Taxes well spent 😂
"Less G-Forces?"
No. For all things which can be counted, the correct word is "fewer".
So, "Fewer G-Forces?" is correct.
Less is reserved for amounts of stuff which can't be measured; Less love. Less hassle. Less pain.
And so, fewer apples, and fewer hours of daylight...
Great point and updated the thumbnail - thanks for the feedback!
New thing will be a suit that inflates when you clench your b-hole
lol
I've only seen on 1 video on all the RUclips videos out there about the F35 does it have a tow behind decoy? I haven't seen anyone else say this except 1 youtube video. If so that is insane
yes it does
I read they had to make new lighter helmet because the woman pilots necks were getting injured.
Same game with the helmet as with the bolts ??? Unfortunately, the industry is known for selling every crap with a 700% surcharge to the taxpayer. Politicians also live off the taxpayers' money, so everyone wins except for the taxpayer. Not that the helmet isn't good, but it's definitely a lot more expensive than it should be.
access real time data ? so tell me so what did the raptor pilots shoot down over the clondike ?? all the tech and the u.s couldnt identify something they shot down ? blah blah blah
You failed to note that HMD was standard with Russian fighters going back to the MIG 29 and SU 27. Was privileged to a demonstration from an East German fighter pilot who taught us uppity Americans what dissimilar ACM was all about. (We got our butts handed to us)
Near peer mentions the Chinese and not the Russians. Burn !!
Fixed wing helmet? The helmet has wings? give me a fucking break. It's a damn helmet, custom to be sure, but still just a damn helmet.
A fixed wing helmet is a helmet designed for use in fixed wing aircraft.
8:35 actually let's me honest with no BS. Though the F-35 is indeed a monstruous machine... the main reason why it's expected to be so largely produced, is due to USA's geopolitical influence. It's basically being used as a political weapon similar to how dollars have been used. Not demeriting the jet in any way... but some buyers have only really chosen it because of said influence.
The price itself is a cleaver tactic. People on the net saying how marvelous the F-35 is because it costs less than an F-16V. But the real thing is, Lockheed is heavily financed my the government and receives tones of subsidies, they can then sell the Lightnig II way bellow it's profitable price since the extra cash is provided directly by the government, in exchange the government gets more clients which will be fully reliant and dependent on the USA. It's all a huge political game really.
Who needs espionage when some Chinese spy can go to your channel and take down notes or send their government the video or any channel links. 😂
I think we should change the term, "Near Peer" to "Not Really Near Peer!" ❤🤍💙
China is still unknown.
@@Just_A_Random_Desk They ARE known, and very bad at what they are trying to design.
@@Just_A_Random_Deskthe country that can’t organically create its own original gear but instead tries to make sub par copies of others. Hasn’t been in a significant war in over 50 years. Has a penchant for lying to “save face.” Yeah, we know.