Great video! Very informative! I just have one thing to add and other viewers may find this useful too. I noticed that when I did it your original way, the first pull would have a delay of the full 5 seconds whereas the 2nd and 3rd and so on pulls would have a delay of roughly 2 seconds. This is due to not filling the reservoir up fully with fluid and the air remaining inside the chamber will pass through the delay hole much faster. To solve this, and have consistent subsequent delays, at around 7:30, before putting in the spring and the plunger, try to dump a bit of fluid right on top of the top stopper plate. This ensures the other side of the reservoir that your method didn't originally fill, would be filled with fluid. With this method, I am able to generate consistent 5-second delays that I have tested with around 10 pulls. Of course, over time, fluid will leak out. After a number of pulls, you will have to go through this process again, but its just a little maintenance to keep your gear running top-notch. Hope you can make an updated video showing this or pin this comment for other users. its the worst feeling when you pull the pin and before you can throw it, the grenade pops in your hand.
I also used Superlube Oring Silicone Lubricant as my "hydraulic fluid". It has a very thick consistency and worked great in my timer heads (in case somebody doesn't have access to the Lucas Oil stabilizer that you used.
I've noticed that the time delay is shorter on hot days. I tested it and put the timer in the fridge for a bit, and sure enough, the delay went back to 5 seconds to whereas before it was going off at around 2-3 secs. Have you experienced this?
@@unfussylobster I think that it is a very normal situation because the internal oil becomes less fluid at low temperatures and more fluid at high temperatures. If you want to increase the delay time, you can achieve this by using oil with a higher viscosity coefficient.
I literally have 12 of these, including a full set of 12 extra timer heads that A.I. sent me the first time they died, all 24 timer heads have been dead for (what feels like) years, you have saved me good sir, and I dearly wish I could give more then a like, comment and sub. Words cannot describe how appreciative i am that you took the time to make this tutorial. from the bottom of my heart thank you.
Sir, thank you so much! Both of my Bang 22's just started doing this in the last game of the season for me and I was freaking out on them now being useless. You have just saved me needing to look at replacing them. Amazing video, hope you can find the money for some proper tools soon.
Another super important point: make sure that when you put the top flange in, check that when you insert the spring into the two retention holes on the top plate and the plunger, the eyelet hole for the pin is aligned with the openings on the top of the timer head... Otherwise, when you pull the pin, and the plunger drops, it may realign to a position you cant put the pin back into.
Really awesome video man, I did some research online and learn so far as of now that if you use silicone differential oil with a viscosity of 10k cst is the one you should use, I will give it a try and update this with the results
Yeah I've heard traxxas 10k is another good option, I didn't know that before I started looking so I ended up with the Lucas but it works well and since it is a substance meant to be used in engines I doubt it'll have negative side effects on something as simple as a B22
@@sausageofmarnies2799 the 10k so far works pretty well, helps for anyone looking for a specific viscosity or if they wanna change or shorten their timers I was worried the lucas might eat away the o rings whatever it's made or additives it has, but I know for sure silicone is a safe bet for orings
@@sausageofmarnies2799 also I realized your guy from black ops airsoft from bristol, this is Solid ftw nice seeing you here and awesome video man keep it up
My AI Tornado 2 Timer Grenade stopped working 2~ years ago, it basically detonates immediately and they folded as a company, so I had an expensive brick. Thought I'd just have a quick Google again to see if more recent posts on self-fixes have been posted on the Net and a Reddit posted linked your video! Although a different grenade, the firing pin looks exactly the same - make sense for them to use the same machined component. So I am very hopeful!! Will keep you posted!
Just an update - it has fixed my grenade! Using 10K weight silicone oil and prefilling the spring cavity prior to compression and then filling the remainder - it took a whole 10-11 seconds to detonate on the longest setting. So there's much for me to test and tweak, but I am so happy to get this back to a working state. Thank you so much for this video!! 🤗
Over in aus had been a while since I've had mine out got it out for some new years bangs and had instant firing so will be trying this myself also being in Queensland which is more commonly above 30deg might try some thick rc diff silicon oil as you can get some thick stuff might make it more reasonable in hot humid environments
So as you know I got a Gorilla FCU for my Polarstar F2 I am having trouble finding videos or any information for a guide on how to adjust the settings for rps if you could make a video for that it would be absolutely amazing because there’s nothing online
@@strikesoft2482 Google fifewargames, Oli sent them to me, he knows how to get them cleared through customs. But they are obviously expensive, I think I spent $430 on both of mine
Using this video for reverse engineering if anyone has a broken one lmk trying to develop my own line of similar but better product and will send a set of them for the help
Hey man, are you on discord? I have a broken one that's taken apart and I've been trying to get a replacement for a while. Figure if you devolp your own I'd be willing to try it
Anyone ever found a new fill valve for the grenade itself , mine died and never found a good one… they are 2 way valve , kinda special. Please let me know !! Ps thanks for this great video
You are correct. Thank you for making this. I bought one for $50 and the guy didn't mention it was leaking so it's just been sitting on a shelf. I'm going to share this with everyone!
@michaelseeliger8292 the more information we have the better! Sounds like you got a great deal at a very opportune moment 🤣 I wouldn't go too thick on the o rings since the fluid needs to be able to move between both sides since that's how the timer works
Love the video though and honestly happy you didn’t have a press and all that because most of us don’t have all that so you showed us how we can do it with simple things around the house
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Great video! Very informative! I just have one thing to add and other viewers may find this useful too. I noticed that when I did it your original way, the first pull would have a delay of the full 5 seconds whereas the 2nd and 3rd and so on pulls would have a delay of roughly 2 seconds. This is due to not filling the reservoir up fully with fluid and the air remaining inside the chamber will pass through the delay hole much faster.
To solve this, and have consistent subsequent delays, at around 7:30, before putting in the spring and the plunger, try to dump a bit of fluid right on top of the top stopper plate. This ensures the other side of the reservoir that your method didn't originally fill, would be filled with fluid. With this method, I am able to generate consistent 5-second delays that I have tested with around 10 pulls. Of course, over time, fluid will leak out. After a number of pulls, you will have to go through this process again, but its just a little maintenance to keep your gear running top-notch.
Hope you can make an updated video showing this or pin this comment for other users. its the worst feeling when you pull the pin and before you can throw it, the grenade pops in your hand.
I also used Superlube Oring Silicone Lubricant as my "hydraulic fluid". It has a very thick consistency and worked great in my timer heads (in case somebody doesn't have access to the Lucas Oil stabilizer that you used.
I've noticed that the time delay is shorter on hot days. I tested it and put the timer in the fridge for a bit, and sure enough, the delay went back to 5 seconds to whereas before it was going off at around 2-3 secs.
Have you experienced this?
@@unfussylobster I think that it is a very normal situation because the internal oil becomes less fluid at low temperatures and more fluid at high temperatures. If you want to increase the delay time, you can achieve this by using oil with a higher viscosity coefficient.
I literally have 12 of these, including a full set of 12 extra timer heads that A.I. sent me the first time they died, all 24 timer heads have been dead for (what feels like) years, you have saved me good sir, and I dearly wish I could give more then a like, comment and sub. Words cannot describe how appreciative i am that you took the time to make this tutorial. from the bottom of my heart thank you.
Send me some of those extra timer heads!! I broke one of mine. I don't mind paying you for them
Hey man!! I'm serious about wanting to buy some of those spare timer heads if you're interested in selling
@@sausageofmarnies2799 sorry for not responding :P I'd be willing to sell, but given they are irreplaceable, i have no idea what they are worth.
@@MrToday-qt1fn are you on discord?
@@sausageofmarnies2799 Mr. Today#2528
Sir, thank you so much! Both of my Bang 22's just started doing this in the last game of the season for me and I was freaking out on them now being useless. You have just saved me needing to look at replacing them. Amazing video, hope you can find the money for some proper tools soon.
Glad I could help! AI is defunct now so if your B22 breaks you can get anymore, so I'm doing everything I can to keep mine alive and kicking
Another super important point: make sure that when you put the top flange in, check that when you insert the spring into the two retention holes on the top plate and the plunger, the eyelet hole for the pin is aligned with the openings on the top of the timer head... Otherwise, when you pull the pin, and the plunger drops, it may realign to a position you cant put the pin back into.
Once again your video was a big help I have a few of these laying around that I will fix now thanks.
Hey man I'm glad I could help!!
Really awesome video man, I did some research online and learn so far as of now that if you use silicone differential oil with a viscosity of 10k cst is the one you should use, I will give it a try and update this with the results
Yeah I've heard traxxas 10k is another good option, I didn't know that before I started looking so I ended up with the Lucas but it works well and since it is a substance meant to be used in engines I doubt it'll have negative side effects on something as simple as a B22
@@sausageofmarnies2799 the 10k so far works pretty well, helps for anyone looking for a specific viscosity or if they wanna change or shorten their timers I was worried the lucas might eat away the o rings whatever it's made or additives it has, but I know for sure silicone is a safe bet for orings
@@sausageofmarnies2799 also I realized your guy from black ops airsoft from bristol, this is Solid ftw nice seeing you here and awesome video man keep it up
@@SexySolidSnake oh shit 🤣🤣 what up bro!! I'll be going out there more often when the weather gets better 👍👍
Great video, thanks for taking the time to show the fix.
Just timed it and it was only 6 seconds your all good mate but besides that thank you your a god send!
Glad I could help man!!
My AI Tornado 2 Timer Grenade stopped working 2~ years ago, it basically detonates immediately and they folded as a company, so I had an expensive brick. Thought I'd just have a quick Google again to see if more recent posts on self-fixes have been posted on the Net and a Reddit posted linked your video!
Although a different grenade, the firing pin looks exactly the same - make sense for them to use the same machined component. So I am very hopeful!! Will keep you posted!
Just an update - it has fixed my grenade! Using 10K weight silicone oil and prefilling the spring cavity prior to compression and then filling the remainder - it took a whole 10-11 seconds to detonate on the longest setting.
So there's much for me to test and tweak, but I am so happy to get this back to a working state. Thank you so much for this video!! 🤗
Over in aus had been a while since I've had mine out got it out for some new years bangs and had instant firing so will be trying this myself also being in Queensland which is more commonly above 30deg might try some thick rc diff silicon oil as you can get some thick stuff might make it more reasonable in hot humid environments
Excellent video !!
I will be trying this. Thank you for making this video
Glad I could help, man!! I know how frustrating it can be to have something that no longer works and not being able to find a way to fix it
@@sausageofmarnies2799 seeing how it was a christmas gift from my wife i really want to see this in use again
So as you know I got a Gorilla FCU for my Polarstar F2 I am having trouble finding videos or any information for a guide on how to adjust the settings for rps if you could make a video for that it would be absolutely amazing because there’s nothing online
Honestly, since I don't have a Gorilla FCU I don't know that I'll be able to help you out with that one, sorry man
I use taraxxes slash 10k silicon diff oil mixed with some 30k it worked just as well!
Really great video my man. Thanks for doing this.
Just sharing knowledge man!
freaking life saver
Great work!
Do you know if this is the same step for the AI Tornado 2 Timer delay
I can't say for sure since I've never used a tornado but they look similar in pictures
i tapped one and used a micro set screw to fill works great
really want to do that with mine but i dont have the tools for that, would make refills so much easier and less chance to break things
Thx been waiting over a year so I do not damage bro thank u so much I have 4 I can repair now
Glad I was able to help!
What is the diameter of the pull pin? I have to make my own. Also i find leaving the timer off the body keeps them alive longer
Sorry about the late reply, I don't know the diameter of the pin but I do have a couple spares I could send your way if you're in the US
approximately how many uses do you have, after fill reservoir??
Not sure, I haven't tested it yet. I have a Quake8 reusable grenade that I run on my main kit so I don't use my B22 very often
@@sausageofmarnies2799 How did you send it from Europe to the United States? most stores don't ship them
@@strikesoft2482 Google fifewargames, Oli sent them to me, he knows how to get them cleared through customs. But they are obviously expensive, I think I spent $430 on both of mine
Omg thank you so much! Just fixed mine and it works again. Woohoo!!
Glad I could help man!
You think this fix is gonna work for tornado 2s? Or something similar?
From what I've seen the heads are designed to use a similar system. So yes it should work.
@@sausageofmarnies2799 i guess the question is how hard it is to dissaemble them
@@GeoffDerksen I've never used a Tornado 2 so I honestly couldn't tell you, is the head not able to just he screwed off?
Damn it fuckin worked thank you for the video man
Using this video for reverse engineering if anyone has a broken one lmk trying to develop my own line of similar but better product and will send a set of them for the help
I'd be interested in picking one up when you're done!! Especially if it's gonna be a timed detonation using .22 nail drivers!
Hey man, are you on discord? I have a broken one that's taken apart and I've been trying to get a replacement for a while. Figure if you devolp your own I'd be willing to try it
Works, but has problems striking the pin to ignite the .22
That might have something more to do with the striking mechanism than the timer
Que gran video amigo, muchas gracias
@@luismendez6378 de nada!
Anyone ever found a new fill valve for the grenade itself , mine died and never found a good one… they are 2 way valve , kinda special. Please let me know !!
Ps thanks for this great video
Does your grenade still work? Any update
As of two weeks ago, last I tested they are still working, they do still leak but I just have to refill and reuse
Do you notice the time delay being shorter on hot days and normal on colder days?
Does anyone have o ring sizes?
I have 2 Gold Tornado, 1 Bang 22 Xtreme, 1 Bang 22 for Sale if anyone is interested. Everything has been used less then a handful of times.
Don't we need to fill both sides of the reservoir?
No, the o rings have enough space for the fluid to pass from one side to the other
You are correct. Thank you for making this. I bought one for $50 and the guy didn't mention it was leaking so it's just been sitting on a shelf. I'm going to share this with everyone!
I am going to replace the o-rings on mine so I'll post sizes if you don't mind.
@michaelseeliger8292 the more information we have the better! Sounds like you got a great deal at a very opportune moment 🤣 I wouldn't go too thick on the o rings since the fluid needs to be able to move between both sides since that's how the timer works
If anyone wants to sell any bangs please lmk thank you
Something twll me that anyone who has seen this video probably won't be interested I selling their B22
Yeah your probably right worth a try though haha
Love the video though and honestly happy you didn’t have a press and all that because most of us don’t have all that so you showed us how we can do it with simple things around the house
I have 2 with the same issues. In great condition. Where are you located? @@william9275
😻 "promosm"
Big help. Thanks for the video.