I like how this channel gives Soviet aircraft equal time (understandably). Most people in the West ignore these planes, if they dont actively mock and dismiss them, but I think they are very interesting, and fresh and exciting too, since they are so rarely discussed here.
Skyships Eng, I enjoy learning the early research and development. After all my years I am still learning thanks to your informative RUclips presentations. Details and particulars of western built commercial airliners, you present well documented facts. Soviet Union era built airliners, known of them but I did not know of the histories to the research and development of technologies. Lots of credibility are owed to you.
When I was a kid I flew on one of those. Also flew on Tu-154 and Yak-40 back in 90ies many a time. My parents flew a lot. Many of my first childhood memories are airports. Domodedovo and Vnukovo mostly. But also a remote airport in Nadim. A wooden terminal and a walk across the field to board an An-2. That was the real lollygagger that old An-2. The only person on board who wasn't sick as hell was the pilot.
i have to agree. and the OPs accent works too lol :) love these russian/soviet era birds. you can see many of these still in service a bit. see the north korean airlines videos. ( people actually film these. iirc the airline is air koryo
I must announce that I was privileged to fly as a passenger on a Tupolev TU-134A from Minsk to Moscow in January 1982. It was a rather rough flight as we flew through a snowstorm during the landing phase, but it was easily one of the most exciting flights I have ever had, and the aircraft was quite competent and very solidly built. I was amazed that an aircraft could fly in that kind of weather. My favourite soviet airliner was of course the Tupolev TU-154B-2.
Skyships Eng Excellent history. In the west especially the USA we never have really heard about Russian civilian aircraft development. Yes, these planes are beautiful girls. They have graceful designs.
Jet nuts have known about Russian jets from both sectors for a long time now. Wings channel in the 90's offered 90% of this info. Even before that people like me found a way to get the info.
brian4480 I'm not a true fanatic really, but do like aviation. I also think that in the USA the powers that be like to "marginalize" anything the Russians ever did or have done that is innovative or high technology in nature.
I was working in Mogadishu Somalia. The UN used this to ferry people in and out. I've heard a lot of jets of all types in my life, but this twin engined passenger jet was the loudest I have ever heard.
I love this aircraft! I worked in Dublin airport in 1999 when Aeroflot operated it and I handled it on the ground. It was in a bad state of disrepair but it was so beautiful!!!
My absolute favorite plane. When I was 7 (back in 2001), I flew on one from Moscow(SVO) to Perm(PEE) and later back. It looked so cool from the outside, like an arrow. I mean the wings are tilted downwards, not upwards like on all other airliners (except the Tu-154) And I didn't had problems with my ears when landing like I had with a 737. Still flying it in the Flightsim on my computer :) Wish I could fly on onw again... Thx for the video and greetings from Germany :)
Hello from Australia. I always considered the Tu-134 an archaic death-trap. But I've kinda got a bit more respect for it now. I can see it played a crucial role in the development and expansion of aviation in Russia. I guess it is no more unsafe than say a DC-8 or DC-9 or a L-1011 and they had pretty woeful safety records.
DC-9 was actually it’s hard to think of any accidents where a design fault was believed to occur. Alitalia Flight 404 is sort of both Pilot and the Nav instrument Continental Airlines 1713 (Pilot Error) Southern Airways 932 & 242 (Pilot Error and in 242’s case partly bad weather) Hughes Air West 706 (Mid-Air collision with an F-4 Fighter Jet Failure of both flight crews not using “See and Avoid” though impossible due to the difference in speed) I think USAir 1016 (Alleged Microburst) They are some examples DC-8’s sort of the same thing Trans International 863 (Pilot Error and debris jamming the right side elevator) Emery Worldwide 17 (Jammed Elevator due to maintenance of the airline) Canadian Pacific 402 (Pilot Error) American International Airways 808 (Pilot Error due to Fatigue) United Airlines 173 (Pilot Error due to an alleged landing gear problem presuming a free falling landing gear and in a holding pattern for too long caused all four engines to flameout due to fuel exhaustion over Portland) Those are some examples of the DC-8 incidents L-1011 Eastern Airlines 401 (Pilot Error due to a burnt out bulb) Delta Airlines 191 (Pilot Error and Microburst) Some Russian Aviation Accidents Aeroflot Nord 821 (Pilot Error and Drunk Pilot) Aeroflot 593 (Child in control of the aircraft) Slightly assisted Malaysia Airlines 17 (Shot down in Eastern Ukraine allegedly over a No-Fly Zone I could be wrong about that info) 2002 Uberlingin Mid Air Collision (Bashkiran Airlines 2927 Flight to Barcelona collided Mid-Air with a DHL 757 Freighter (DHL 611) over the German-Swiss Border result of Pilot Error on the Russian crew not abiding TCAS and SkyGuide for negligence) Kazakhstan Airlines 1907 (Mid-Air Collision with Saudi 763 (B747) Pilot Error of Kazakhstan 1907 for descending past FL140 without permission or authorized however, investigators concluded had not been for this the accident would’ve never happened) Polish Air Force 101 (Pilot Error late go around, cancelled the TAWS (Terrain Awareness Warning System) or GPWS and controlled flight into terrain occurred) These are only examples of some and not all of the accidents involving the aircraft.
Tu-134 was the first Soviet/Aeroflot plane I flew on, in December, 1982, Moscow to Leningrad (St. Petersburg). It was a fine passenger plane, not lacking anything compared to western planes, except that our Intourist escort scolded me for shooting pictures of the airport out the window.
Soviet aircraft were always looked down on in the West. When the cold war ended we start getting more balanced perspectives - more information. The Soviets had a certain style that always appealed to me. The IL -76 is a classic ... looks like our C-141, and is still being used. The Antonov heavy lifters are still flying. TU-95, TU-114, 142 ... can't beat them for turbo props ... during the cold war the TU "Bear" sound (super- sonic propellers buzz saw) was unmistakable. Very good videos. Thank you for providing food for aviation nerds.
Those early Russian airlines have sexy lines. That one with the engines in the root of the wing looks awesome. Better than the Comet which wasn t a bad looker either. Also love the bombardier glass nose as well
Flew from Manchester to Moscow on Tupolov and onto Vladivostok on an Aleutian. Went around Russia on various turboprop plane and came back on an airbus which did a heavy landing at Manchester and a comment from a fellow passenger said the Russian pilots would not have done that,most of them had been pilots in Afghanistan and had to land on worse airfields than Manchester
I'm glad that you're giving us a "Russian aircraft-a-thon" because we don't often hear about them in the mainstream media/RUclips. You're a trailblazer...... top job mate!!
Thanks a lot for this set of videos about Soviet commercial airplanes. I think that for most people in the western they are unknown, but as far as I can see they have built a beautiful and reliable planes
At 10:45, Hungary isn't marked as an operator of Tu-134, however the late Hungarian Airlines (MALÉV) was the operator of more than a dozen 134s for 30 years (from 1969 to 1998). They were the first commercial passenger jet aircrafts in service in Hungary (one of them was leased from Aeroflot with an amalgamation of MALÉV and Aeroflot livery). Some of the withdrawn "Kistupi" ("Little Tupey" in Hungarian) were sold off to other airlines, and were operating even in the late 2000s. A few of them are on display in Hungary (albeit they are not in the best condition). Othervise the video is great and interesting, thank you for your work :), I'm looking forward to the Tu-154 video.
Yes! I noticed it too. There's a Malev (Hungarian Airlines) Tupolev Tu-134A-3 Reg: HA-LBE on display in the Budapest Aeropark. One can see it if they click along the photos here: www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g274887-d8369998-Reviews-Aeropark_Budapest-Budapest_Central_Hungary.html
your videos are the best, I have learned more about airlines in the past few weeks binging them than i ever thought i would be keen to know.. and i just want to learn more really.
In 1988 I flew from St. Petersberg/Leningrad to Moscow in what was the CCCP's version of a jumbo jet. Don't know the name/numbers as I was young. I just remember it seemed to be going WAY faster than other jets I had flown in and people were making comments how smooth the ride was
I've been reading a lot about russian and Soviet aviation and I see that had a lot of accidents but from what i observed, it mostly has to do with pilot error rather than the planes itself
the D30 equipped 134, has the best pollution and noise level specifications in it's class, fuel economy is also impressive for 2020, D30 's 1:1 bypass ratio is class leader, and is more efficient that Ge90/115, 200 hr overhaul time is also class leader.. also easiest to tail strike , highest take off speed, coupled with lowest mtow , and no apu or reverse thrust made it a joy on remote short runways .. "look out window/Drunken Yuri" type radar has special "give me more vodka" vocal mode not yet used in the West.. Easy to use low thrust power plants come with Russian Fadec, and elastic band that holds throttles at 104 percent for all modes of flight, far cheaper than western units.. Pilots motto for this aircraft "whole runway every time" makes it a legend of Aviation, short range also increases passenger comfort, cabin noise levels are comparable a C130 cargo hold, quietest ride in the east.. toilet has window, many airlines consider these aircrafts as airbus A320 neo replacement, and will compete easily with Dreamliner .. clever use of emergency lights , and cockpit warnings create mood lighting at fraction of cost of Boeing
An aircraft nose is one of the most complex things in an aircraft. It has to be aerodynamic, ergonomic (comfortable with good visibility), strong enough to withstand rain, hail, bird strikes, and 500 mph winds, and light enough that it doesn’t make the plane nose heavy. So most aircraft reuse the nose sections from other aircraft. The MD-90/MD-80/Boeing 717/ and DC-9 all use the DC-8 nose. The 737, 727, 707 and KC-135 use the nose from the 367-80 prototype. The C-17 and YC-15 use the nose from the DC-10. The Sud Caravelle used the nose from the DH Comet. So the Tu-104, 110, 114, 124, 16, and 134 all used the nose section of the Tu-95 Bear. Fuselages, on the other hand are very easy to make. Especially for passenger aircraft since they don’t need a large section to open up. So there was no bomb bay on any of these airliners. The nose section was used for the navigator rather than the bombardier. The glass made sighting landmarks and performing sun and star sightings and drift calculations easy in the days when radio navigation aids were unreliable or unavailable in the vastness of the USSR. Most western planes of the time also carried a navigator but they had smaller periscopes and astrodomes for visual sightings.
I really like your comparisons. Can you make more videos, that highlight influences/cooperation between people on each side of the iron curtain? Also these Soviet designs look great. I wish Russia was more integrated into Europe back then and now. The current situation makes me sad.
@@trash4cash454 Superjet is a bad example. The French part of the engine is defective and the French really let this project down. Europe did not want to allow a competitor to enter its market.
Two things, first I love your voice over work! 😀😀😀 Second, it would be a neat addition to airliners if they still had the glass nose! Passengers could pass the time looking at the scenery. 😀😀
It would only work in the 747. In every other plane you would need to have passengers passing through the cockpit to access the nose, or they would need to specially design one with an access passage under the cockpit, which would seriously complicate the design. That would basically require a whole new jet, so you may as well design it with a double-decker flight deck like the 747. Although you would still have the problem of where to install the weather/navigation radar, since the nose is the ideal place for it. So it would be really cool, but I don't see it happening. Even in the 747 they use the nose for the radar, it is the only thing that stopped them from putting a glass observation nose on it (except maybe the danger from bird strikes). Hard to make big glass windows bird proof.
@@justforever96 So then I guess the Russian Air Force must spend lots and lots of money replacing glass after bird strikes or they just use smaller panels and put bracing in between. If you look at the Russian Air Force's cargo planes, they still have glass noses. I do appreciate you taking the time to write a far too long comment response. I understand that it would require redesigning a whole new aircraft and you couldn't just stick a glass nose on a 767. My point was it would be neat not that it's practical or should be reality or anything else. It's called an opinion.
"Paper thin skin" you said it- (The B-707's skin was four times thicker than the DH-106 Comet to avoid similar problems. The DC-8's skin was even thicker yet perhaps for even more added safety, and possibly for bigger windows. And the CV-880's skin is the thickest of them all, to provide good structural integrity, some sound-attenuation characteristics, and most importantly to cut down on the number of fuselage stringers, thus saving considerable ammounts of weight.) I thought the Caravelle was a beautiful aircraft and I've always wondered why it had few non-European buyers. The French mindset of "we make products for the home markets, if they don't suit you, we could careless" shows through. too small, the range as in too short. nor could they be produced in quantity. The French produced 282, with only an order of 30 sold to United counting as a significant order outside Europe. The Brits also had the same production issues. Howard Hughes gave Bristol an order for 32 Britannia's for TWA. How did Bristol respond? They turned it down this was the only significant order received from an American carrier. Bristol would rather crank out a Brittanica every 60 days than take steps to increase production. As far as French heavy industry products, they sold almost no cars outside France and man those were the butt ugly-iest cars ever made. Do you know anyone with a Citroen in the garage, how about a Peugeot or Renault, just a few still insignificant.
Loved the shots of the 134 dropping its gear low over the highway! Was this an actual approach somewhere or just for a promotional video? I like the older glass nosed versions myself. The navigator had the best seat in the house!
I have seen these things fly as a kid. Noisy and smokey. I liked the visuals .Today the planes are more similar. Very exotic planes . It is more difficult to get information about these planes in english.
9:10 anti _spin_ parachute, friend. A chute cannot prevent or recover a stall that I am aware of. But anti-spin chutes are common on flight test aircraft.
i think i have to rewatch that one. i got so confused with the fast amount of numbers said in one sentence it was a bit hard to follow which one is which.
Do it just the same as I do......, and start to collect aircrafts...........I can tell you I have more than 400 now......and yes, I have a lot of Tu134's too....... Only thing.........they are all 500 times smaller than the original ones ;)................But that saves a lot of space and money!!! What about this one?.......... www.aviation-center-berlin.de/p/529938?20181024005146 Personal it's one of my favorite liveries!
Collection is an idea but is expensive and if you want a special livery, it isn't available sometimes. I would do modeling work. There are plenty of manufacturers of models like Zvezda, which has a Tu-134. Or ICM, for example. Good models for a cheap price, easy to build, you could use a Airbrush or spray cans to paint and there are many Decals for nearly all airlines and models in any scale available. It takes time and you might screw up the first models but if you have patience and a little bit of spending money left you will build up skills and the planes look like the real one!
For a Russian video must admit very candid indeed , especially regarding the crash figures as also the unflattering descriptions of some of the aircrafts.All in all these aircrafts did yeoman service for a country which was stuck with local produce due to the extreme cold war.
A Douglas Aircraft engineer told me of a visit to the Long Beach headquarters by a contingent of Soviet aeronautical engineers in the early 70's. He related that when the visitors were able to get distance from their political handlers, they talked of aircraft having to be turned out at the rates specified in five-year plans, regardless of whether sufficient quantities of aircraft-grade metals were available to a company. I guess whether it's capitalist airframe makers answering to shareholders, or their communist counterparts answering to party bosses, passengers might want to tighten their seatbelts.
It seems to me adding a parachute to protect the aircraft’s occupants from a high altitude stall, is like saying “Folks we have no idea what the hell we’re doing, regardless we’ll try to protect you from our incompetence’
There were two types parachutes. Spin-recovery parachutes are common for deep-stall flight test work -- a good idea while the limits of the design are being determined. But those weren't used on operational aircraft. Drag parachutes to aid in deceleration during revenue landings are what were installed for in-service use. As another poster with more knowledge of it than me stated, those drag chutes were rarely used, and were eventually removed and replaced with an auxiliary power unit (APU) in the tail location.
rivet holes for the windows were punched out instead of drilled. they also didnt glue the layers together to save time and cost. the story about square windows being the issue was just a coverup. as for the choice of square windows, apparently the lead designer said "im not having my plane look like a ****ing boat with portholes". DH also saved money by only having 1 prototype. because of the order of the tests, the flaws were never discovered and work hardening metals at that time was not as fully understood as now.
I like how this channel gives Soviet aircraft equal time (understandably). Most people in the West ignore these planes, if they dont actively mock and dismiss them, but I think they are very interesting, and fresh and exciting too, since they are so rarely discussed here.
Your programs are far and away some of the most fun to watch: informative, clear to follow and fun voice over.
Skyships Eng, I enjoy learning the early research and development. After all my years I am still learning thanks to your informative RUclips presentations. Details and particulars of western built commercial airliners, you present well documented facts. Soviet Union era built airliners, known of them but I did not know of the histories to the research and development of technologies. Lots of credibility are owed to you.
When I was a kid I flew on one of those. Also flew on Tu-154 and Yak-40 back in 90ies many a time. My parents flew a lot. Many of my first childhood memories are airports. Domodedovo and Vnukovo mostly. But also a remote airport in Nadim. A wooden terminal and a walk across the field to board an An-2. That was the real lollygagger that old An-2. The only person on board who wasn't sick as hell was the pilot.
Say what you want but those Russian birds are soo beautiful
And a bit exotic
i have to agree. and the OPs accent works too lol :) love these russian/soviet era birds. you can see many of these still in service a bit. see the north korean airlines videos. ( people actually film these. iirc the airline is air koryo
I must announce that I was privileged to fly as a passenger on a Tupolev TU-134A from Minsk to Moscow in January 1982. It was a rather rough flight as we flew through a snowstorm during the landing phase, but it was easily one of the most exciting flights I have ever had, and the aircraft was quite competent and very solidly built. I was amazed that an aircraft could fly in that kind of weather. My favourite soviet airliner was of course the Tupolev TU-154B-2.
Fully agree
"What you want". Sorry. : )
Skyships Eng
Excellent history. In the west especially the USA we never have really heard about Russian civilian aircraft development. Yes, these planes are beautiful girls. They have graceful designs.
Jet nuts have known about Russian jets from both sectors for a long time now. Wings channel in the 90's offered 90% of this info. Even before that people like me found a way to get the info.
brian4480
I'm not a true fanatic really, but do like aviation. I also think that in the USA the powers that be like to "marginalize" anything the Russians ever did or have done that is innovative or high technology in nature.
6:17 - passenger with a tree.
And a tuba next to it. What's up with these passengers?
Russians... what do you expect?
Soviet Ppl
I like the altercation that almost happens at 6:32 - see guy with crutches.
I was waiting to see one with a bear 🐻
I was working in Mogadishu Somalia. The UN used this to ferry people in and out. I've heard a lot of jets of all types in my life, but this twin engined passenger jet was the loudest I have ever heard.
I flew as a passenger on the Tu-104 (1964, 1975), Tu-124 (1965) and Tu-134 (2002).
I love this aircraft! I worked in Dublin airport in 1999 when Aeroflot operated it and I handled it on the ground. It was in a bad state of disrepair but it was so beautiful!!!
My absolute favorite plane. When I was 7 (back in 2001), I flew on one from Moscow(SVO) to Perm(PEE) and later back. It looked so cool from the outside, like an arrow. I mean the wings are tilted downwards, not upwards like on all other airliners (except the Tu-154) And I didn't had problems with my ears when landing like I had with a 737. Still flying it in the Flightsim on my computer :) Wish I could fly on onw again... Thx for the video and greetings from Germany :)
@pagansforbreakfast it just a big low thrust starfighter,
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Hello from Australia. I always considered the Tu-134 an archaic death-trap. But I've kinda got a bit more respect for it now. I can see it played a crucial role in the development and expansion of aviation in Russia. I guess it is no more unsafe than say a DC-8 or DC-9 or a L-1011 and they had pretty woeful safety records.
DC-9 was actually it’s hard to think of any accidents where a design fault was believed to occur. Alitalia Flight 404 is sort of both Pilot and the Nav instrument
Continental Airlines 1713 (Pilot Error)
Southern Airways 932 & 242 (Pilot Error and in 242’s case partly bad weather)
Hughes Air West 706 (Mid-Air collision with an F-4 Fighter Jet Failure of both flight crews not using “See and Avoid” though impossible due to the difference in speed)
I think USAir 1016 (Alleged Microburst)
They are some examples
DC-8’s sort of the same thing
Trans International 863 (Pilot Error and debris jamming the right side elevator)
Emery Worldwide 17 (Jammed Elevator due to maintenance of the airline)
Canadian Pacific 402 (Pilot Error)
American International Airways 808 (Pilot Error due to Fatigue)
United Airlines 173 (Pilot Error due to an alleged landing gear problem presuming a free falling landing gear and in a holding pattern for too long caused all four engines to flameout due to fuel exhaustion over Portland)
Those are some examples of the DC-8 incidents
L-1011
Eastern Airlines 401 (Pilot Error due to a burnt out bulb)
Delta Airlines 191 (Pilot Error and Microburst)
Some Russian Aviation Accidents
Aeroflot Nord 821 (Pilot Error and Drunk Pilot)
Aeroflot 593 (Child in control of the aircraft)
Slightly assisted Malaysia Airlines 17 (Shot down in Eastern Ukraine allegedly over a No-Fly Zone I could be wrong about that info)
2002 Uberlingin Mid Air Collision (Bashkiran Airlines 2927 Flight to Barcelona collided Mid-Air with a DHL 757 Freighter (DHL 611) over the German-Swiss Border result of Pilot Error on the Russian crew not abiding TCAS and SkyGuide for negligence)
Kazakhstan Airlines 1907 (Mid-Air Collision with Saudi 763 (B747) Pilot Error of Kazakhstan 1907 for descending past FL140 without permission or authorized however, investigators concluded had not been for this the accident would’ve never happened)
Polish Air Force 101 (Pilot Error late go around, cancelled the TAWS (Terrain Awareness Warning System) or GPWS and controlled flight into terrain occurred)
These are only examples of some and not all of the accidents involving the aircraft.
Tu-134 was the first Soviet/Aeroflot plane I flew on, in December, 1982, Moscow to Leningrad (St. Petersburg). It was a fine passenger plane, not lacking anything compared to western planes, except that our Intourist escort scolded me for shooting pictures of the airport out the window.
Soviet aircraft were always looked down on in the West. When the cold war ended we start getting more balanced perspectives - more information. The Soviets had a certain style that always appealed to me.
The IL -76 is a classic ... looks like our C-141, and is still being used. The Antonov heavy lifters are still flying. TU-95, TU-114, 142 ... can't beat them for turbo props ... during the cold war the TU "Bear" sound (super- sonic propellers buzz saw) was unmistakable. Very good videos. Thank you for providing food for aviation nerds.
Simply a copy of the DC9
Those early Russian airlines have sexy lines. That one with the engines in the root of the wing looks awesome. Better than the Comet which wasn t a bad looker either. Also love the bombardier glass nose as well
Excellent video. Very well researched...thank you!
Flew in a TU104 from Prestwick to Leningrad in the 1960's. A good machine.
The footage that begins at 12:40... holy crap that is beautiful
Приключения итальянцев в России
That's Russia for you
I flew from Newcastle to Varna in one of these in the early 2000's. Very comfortable I thought. Sadly lost the pictures I took.
Yes the Soviet marathon is starting!! Thank you!!
You’ve managed to find some great footage, that flyover of the motorway or Highway whatever you call it, is spectacular.
A favorite of mine also! 😀👏👍👍✈️
It's from the soviet blockbustert movie "Unbelievable Adventures of Italians in Russia"
It's such a badass and sleek looking aircraft! Imagine one fitted with modern high-bypass turbofans! 😍
Was thinking the same thing - make a awesome corporate jet. If only I was an oligarch...
Flew from Manchester to Moscow on Tupolov and onto Vladivostok on an Aleutian. Went around Russia on various turboprop plane and came back on an airbus which did a heavy landing at Manchester and a comment from a fellow passenger said the Russian pilots would not have done that,most of them had been pilots in Afghanistan and had to land on worse airfields than Manchester
Love the Tu 134 fly a lot with them in the old days and the specific sound they made.
I'm glad that you're giving us a "Russian aircraft-a-thon" because we don't often hear about them in the mainstream media/RUclips. You're a trailblazer...... top job mate!!
Great Video and thanks for making. Good footage. Used to see Aviogenex 134A YU-AHX frequently at Manchester in the very early 70's
I love this channel for filling in the gaps in my knowledge of civilian aviation!
Thanks a lot for this set of videos about Soviet commercial airplanes. I think that for most people in the western they are unknown, but as far as I can see they have built a beautiful and reliable planes
Could you do an episode about TU-114 too? It's not a jet but it's still soviet and from early era
Go look up "How the Soviets one-upped the West : The Tu-114 Story" by Mustard.
Beautiful machinery. Personally I go to pieces looking the Tupolev Bear, love to see and hear one in Oz but jeeze the tailplane wobbles on landing.
At 10:45, Hungary isn't marked as an operator of Tu-134, however the late Hungarian Airlines (MALÉV) was the operator of more than a dozen 134s for 30 years (from 1969 to 1998). They were the first commercial passenger jet aircrafts in service in Hungary (one of them was leased from Aeroflot with an amalgamation of MALÉV and Aeroflot livery). Some of the withdrawn "Kistupi" ("Little Tupey" in Hungarian) were sold off to other airlines, and were operating even in the late 2000s. A few of them are on display in Hungary (albeit they are not in the best condition).
Othervise the video is great and interesting, thank you for your work :), I'm looking forward to the Tu-154 video.
Yes! I noticed it too. There's a Malev (Hungarian Airlines) Tupolev Tu-134A-3 Reg: HA-LBE on display in the Budapest Aeropark. One can see it if they click along the photos here: www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g274887-d8369998-Reviews-Aeropark_Budapest-Budapest_Central_Hungary.html
I really enjoy and appreciate your videos. Please continue with our great work!
your videos are the best, I have learned more about airlines in the past few weeks binging them than i ever thought i would be keen to know.. and i just want to learn more really.
Nice to know Borat has found an interest.
An-22 deserves a video. Such a beast!
I like how you really delve into these aircraft built during the Cold War. Thank you for making such great videos for all of us aircraft enthusiasts.
I love this channel so much! Such high quality videos, I always look forward to them.
In 1988 I flew from St. Petersberg/Leningrad to Moscow in what was the CCCP's version of a jumbo jet. Don't know the name/numbers as I was young. I just remember it seemed to be going WAY faster than other jets I had flown in and people were making comments how smooth the ride was
IL-86.
classic plane spotting....amazing...
I've actually flown on one of these, flew from Teeside to Pula in the late 80's, was quite the rust bucket!
I've been reading a lot about russian and Soviet aviation and I see that had a lot of accidents but from what i observed, it mostly has to do with pilot error rather than the planes itself
Hard to get used to an airliner with a bombardier's window in the nose...
So then, economy class is what... the bomb bay?
occhamite the passengers had to navigate
Yes, it's where a navigator would sit with all his instruments.
the D30 equipped 134, has the best pollution and noise level specifications in it's class, fuel economy is also impressive for 2020, D30 's 1:1 bypass ratio is class leader, and is more efficient that Ge90/115, 200 hr overhaul time is also class leader.. also easiest to tail strike , highest take off speed, coupled with lowest mtow , and no apu or reverse thrust made it a joy on remote short runways .. "look out window/Drunken Yuri" type radar has special "give me more vodka" vocal mode not yet used in the West..
Easy to use low thrust power plants come with Russian Fadec, and elastic band that holds throttles at 104 percent for all modes of flight, far cheaper than western units.. Pilots motto for this aircraft "whole runway every time" makes it a legend of Aviation, short range also increases passenger comfort, cabin noise levels are comparable a C130 cargo hold, quietest ride in the east.. toilet has window, many airlines consider these aircrafts as airbus A320 neo replacement, and will compete easily with Dreamliner .. clever use of emergency lights , and cockpit warnings create mood lighting at fraction of cost of Boeing
There only one class on Soviet planes - working class!
An aircraft nose is one of the most complex things in an aircraft. It has to be aerodynamic, ergonomic (comfortable with good visibility), strong enough to withstand rain, hail, bird strikes, and 500 mph winds, and light enough that it doesn’t make the plane nose heavy.
So most aircraft reuse the nose sections from other aircraft.
The MD-90/MD-80/Boeing 717/ and DC-9 all use the DC-8 nose. The 737, 727, 707 and KC-135 use the nose from the 367-80 prototype. The C-17 and YC-15 use the nose from the DC-10. The Sud Caravelle used the nose from the DH Comet.
So the Tu-104, 110, 114, 124, 16, and 134 all used the nose section of the Tu-95 Bear.
Fuselages, on the other hand are very easy to make. Especially for passenger aircraft since they don’t need a large section to open up. So there was no bomb bay on any of these airliners.
The nose section was used for the navigator rather than the bombardier. The glass made sighting landmarks and performing sun and star sightings and drift calculations easy in the days when radio navigation aids were unreliable or unavailable in the vastness of the USSR. Most western planes of the time also carried a navigator but they had smaller periscopes and astrodomes for visual sightings.
@ 6:33 the passenger with crutches knocks the head of the passenger sitting down. u can see him getting pissed off...lol
This is from a movie
A very good video. Back in the 1980s I worked on Tu134s of Aeroflot, Balkan, Interflug and Aviogenex. It is my favourite Soviet era airliners.
what was your job? I wanna learn plane mechanic
I really like your comparisons. Can you make more videos, that highlight influences/cooperation between people on each side of the iron curtain?
Also these Soviet designs look great. I wish Russia was more integrated into Europe back then and now. The current situation makes me sad.
The SSJ 100 is a good example of the Russian and European cooperation
Your opinion is not interesting to the Führer Merkel
@@trash4cash454 Superjet is a bad example. The French part of the engine is defective and the French really let this project down. Europe did not want to allow a competitor to enter its market.
Excellent post!
Two things, first I love your voice over work! 😀😀😀 Second, it would be a neat addition to airliners if they still had the glass nose! Passengers could pass the time looking at the scenery. 😀😀
It would only work in the 747. In every other plane you would need to have passengers passing through the cockpit to access the nose, or they would need to specially design one with an access passage under the cockpit, which would seriously complicate the design. That would basically require a whole new jet, so you may as well design it with a double-decker flight deck like the 747. Although you would still have the problem of where to install the weather/navigation radar, since the nose is the ideal place for it. So it would be really cool, but I don't see it happening. Even in the 747 they use the nose for the radar, it is the only thing that stopped them from putting a glass observation nose on it (except maybe the danger from bird strikes). Hard to make big glass windows bird proof.
@@justforever96 So then I guess the Russian Air Force must spend lots and lots of money replacing glass after bird strikes or they just use smaller panels and put bracing in between. If you look at the Russian Air Force's cargo planes, they still have glass noses. I do appreciate you taking the time to write a far too long comment response. I understand that it would require redesigning a whole new aircraft and you couldn't just stick a glass nose on a 767. My point was it would be neat not that it's practical or should be reality or anything else. It's called an opinion.
Excellent video! Love the Tu-family!
Superlative videos. I love this guy. Quality work indeed !
That Tu-104 was a sexy beast!
"Paper thin skin" you said it-
(The B-707's skin was four times thicker than the DH-106 Comet to avoid similar problems. The DC-8's skin was even thicker yet perhaps for even more added safety, and possibly for bigger windows. And the CV-880's skin is the thickest of them all, to provide good structural integrity, some sound-attenuation characteristics, and most importantly to cut down on the number of fuselage stringers, thus saving considerable ammounts of weight.)
I thought the Caravelle was a beautiful aircraft and I've always wondered why it had few non-European buyers. The French mindset of "we make products for the home markets, if they don't suit you, we could careless" shows through. too small, the range as in too short. nor could they be produced in quantity. The French produced 282, with only an order of 30 sold to United counting as a significant order outside Europe. The Brits also had the same production issues. Howard Hughes gave Bristol an order for 32 Britannia's for TWA. How did Bristol respond? They turned it down this was the only significant order received from an American carrier. Bristol would rather crank out a Brittanica every 60 days than take steps to increase production.
As far as French heavy industry products, they sold almost no cars outside France and man those were the butt ugly-iest cars ever made. Do you know anyone with a Citroen in the garage, how about a Peugeot or Renault, just a few still insignificant.
Yeah, we know a lot of people with Citroen and Peugeots and Renaults.
The Ty-124 did stifling service in the Indian Airforce as a passenger liner. It even crossed the seas and flew from India to the Middle East.
Call me crazy. But I love all Russian planes and their unique personality!
Another well done very informative video. I sure hope you do a video on the Tu-114 too!
Last passenger flight of this model was about a year after the video was made.
these series "demands" a russian accent!!!! God work.
I love your videos man! Can't wait for more content
Loved the shots of the 134 dropping its gear low over the highway! Was this an actual approach somewhere or just for a promotional video? I like the older glass nosed versions myself. The navigator had the best seat in the house!
It was from a movie. They painted a landing strip to look like a motorway and had professionals drive down it.
Even so, amazing shots of the plane! (Also some cars not available here!) Do you know the name of the movie?
@@jpatt1000 www.imdb.com/title/tt0070439/
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@@jpatt1000"Невероятные приключения итальянцев в России"
I have seen these things fly as a kid. Noisy and smokey. I liked the visuals .Today the planes are more similar. Very exotic planes . It is more difficult to get information about these planes in english.
interior of several CSA TU 134 was remaked in GB, it was nice
Such a beauty
Great video!!! Thank you. I am an aeroflot fan!
I've always thought it would be cool to look out those navigator's windows in flight.
Such a cool plane!
Very interesting topic. Indeed the Caravelle is a great aircraft and inspired even Bombardier with the RJ.
9:10 anti _spin_ parachute, friend. A chute cannot prevent or recover a stall that I am aware of. But anti-spin chutes are common on flight test aircraft.
Muito bom canal cara !
Love Soviét planes & AEROFLOT CCCP!!
when ever I see those soviet airliners I can't think other than bomber or military reconnaissance.. Would have liked to fly in it.
Unique design
i think i have to rewatch that one. i got so confused with the fast amount of numbers said in one sentence it was a bit hard to follow which one is which.
Good video, lot of info.
Great video
Very pretty plane
small typo in your video description, should be "the plane was built" instead of 'build'. Keep up the great videos ;)
Nice content. Just subscribed!
perfect video
I want one ....
Do it just the same as I do......, and start to collect aircrafts...........I can tell you I have more than 400 now......and yes, I have a lot of Tu134's too.......
Only thing.........they are all 500 times smaller than the original ones ;)................But that saves a lot of space and money!!!
What about this one?.......... www.aviation-center-berlin.de/p/529938?20181024005146
Personal it's one of my favorite liveries!
Collection is an idea but is expensive and if you want a special livery, it isn't available sometimes. I would do modeling work. There are plenty of manufacturers of models like Zvezda, which has a Tu-134. Or ICM, for example. Good models for a cheap price, easy to build, you could use a Airbrush or spray cans to paint and there are many Decals for nearly all airlines and models in any scale available. It takes time and you might screw up the first models but if you have patience and a little bit of spending money left you will build up skills and the planes look like the real one!
In Soviet Russia you do not make the aircraft. The aircraft makes you!
Great research as usual Bro!
Almost a brawl at 6:34 LOL
thank you!
what about the Il-62 will you talk about that?
For a Russian video must admit very candid indeed , especially regarding the crash figures as also the unflattering descriptions of some of the aircrafts.All in all these aircrafts did yeoman service for a country which was stuck with local produce due to the extreme cold war.
A Douglas Aircraft engineer told me of a visit to the Long Beach headquarters by a contingent of Soviet aeronautical engineers in the early 70's. He related that when the visitors were able to get distance from their political handlers, they talked of aircraft having to be turned out at the rates specified in five-year plans, regardless of whether sufficient quantities of aircraft-grade metals were available to a company. I guess whether it's capitalist airframe makers answering to shareholders, or their communist counterparts answering to party bosses, passengers might want to tighten their seatbelts.
Este é o avião certo para a AVIANCA voar vôos domésticos no Brasil TU 154 M. Grato senhores!
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Ty 134 is so cool👍
I need more!
I flew in this bird in 2004, from Moscow to Chelyabinsk.
Yaa let's buy this one
Are you doing the Tu-114?
It seems to me adding a parachute to protect the aircraft’s occupants from a high altitude stall, is like saying “Folks we have no idea what the hell we’re doing, regardless we’ll try to protect you from our incompetence’
Well, better than 'we have no ideea and we will do nothing" :)
There were two types parachutes. Spin-recovery parachutes are common for deep-stall flight test work -- a good idea while the limits of the design are being determined. But those weren't used on operational aircraft. Drag parachutes to aid in deceleration during revenue landings are what were installed for in-service use. As another poster with more knowledge of it than me stated, those drag chutes were rarely used, and were eventually removed and replaced with an auxiliary power unit (APU) in the tail location.
I heard a cheeky jab at Comet's airframe lol. It took the far too long in my opinion to accept that the Comet's airframe was the issue.
rivet holes for the windows were punched out instead of drilled. they also didnt glue the layers together to save time and cost. the story about square windows being the issue was just a coverup. as for the choice of square windows, apparently the lead designer said "im not having my plane look like a ****ing boat with portholes". DH also saved money by only having 1 prototype. because of the order of the tests, the flaws were never discovered and work hardening metals at that time was not as fully understood as now.
Can you please tell me the titles of the movies you used in this video? I would like to see those very much. Thank you!
I love your content, wish you had more subscribers
Plz do the Tu-154 next.
It was a Tu16 bomber modified to be an airliner!
Hope the test pilots survived those crashes of the prototypes? I heard some could eject out?
7:23 was this a flight sim screenshot of the gauge?
Ah, Soviet planes become bigger in this marathon
Around 1964 I few in a Comet. I called it the vomit Comet as BOAC had seats forwards and backwards. Buurrrrp.