gotta love how small little caliborn wields a large black staff that changes into a fucking sniper but almightly lord english who can shoot multi colored kamehamehas from his mouth wields a tiny ass wand that can snap if he sneezes too hard
I always assumed that like Eridan, Caliborn discovered Rose's message out in the space between universes, but based on Act 7, maybe it's yet another thing he stole from his sister.
4:48 You know the new villain is dangerous when even the guy that destroyed a GENESIS FROG,which,remind you,contains an entire universe and the fifth dimension,is scared of what just happened
Alex Hackett Well tbh I think Jack Noir and PM might have killed some HorrorTerrors but I might just be mistaken, a sort of wrong place/wrong time dealy.
Beware the Man Who Speaks In Danks they killed a horrorterror on accident while they fought. LE however is actively hunting them down to destroy paradox space.
To put into perspective LE’s power: You can see multiple dead and dying horrorterrors injured by the explosion at 4:40. Feferi’s Lusus, which wasn’t even a horror terror itself, had the power to kill an entire galaxy with ONE SHRIEK. And LE kills multiple stronger beings with no effort.
@@deletedTestimony Yes... and no. There's the definition of the Rage Aspect according to the Extended Zodiac : "Those bound to the aspect of Rage are bringers of chaos. They posses great contempt for lies or false ideas, including the stability that false ideas can impart. To them, the true is far more important than the good; they would tear down a system just to destabilize it if, by their reckoning, it is built on faulty premises. Often the Rage-bound prefer anarchy to any of the alternate forms of civilization, which they believe to be riddled with lies and foolishness and obedient masses. They are bringers of confusion and doubt, and they can be frustratingly difficult to convince otherwise when they have attached themselves to an idea. If they sound dangerous, they are. The Rage-bound tend to be most volatile and unpredictable of the aspects. At their best they are original, revolutionary, and fearless. At their worst they are cruel, uncompromising, and vicious."
The fact that all four of the original versions of John, Rose, Jade and Dave are dead will never not be a constant source of emotional pain for this fandom
@@melonwozard the original Dave gets to live until the epilogues where they take Lord English into the black hole with them. He made it through the whole thing.
Alex Dagos actually he dies when jack comes to take the copies of the game from him, he finds a dead dave that tried to fight jack, making him not to try again. Also he was killed and revived, tho the version of him that was killed remains in dream bubbles. Also a whole bunch of doomed daves before cascade
So if Caliborn became god tier then his ghost must be somewhere in the furthest ring. Just imagine Caliborn dying and being all disappointed when he stays dead and then he comes across the ghost army and they beat the shit out of him and he has no idea why.
Abelalks 3.0 I mean he would just be wandering around and a bunch of ghosts would jump him and he wouldn't know why. I wouldnt think he would join them.
I agree, caliborn was my favourite character. The game gave him the hardest spawn which made his arc more enjoyable to read. The flash just felt so epic even though he's supposed to be the villain
Atomic Robo Tesla Kind of. The version of Calliope who actually Did predominate did so in a version of reality where she never knew other people yet still entered the game and God-tiered. She "ate" her brother's soul ( supposed to be a tenacious one..) and "drew comics to amuse herself". It foreshadows that That version of her would end Lord English, not so much predominate since that necessitated Calliope finding her spot in paradox space hidden in Echinda's Lair. Caliborn won because her aggravated his sister until she gave up. Considering that we've seen versions of the Felt sporting both pointed and rounded hats i'd say Caliborn's "joke" about switching the chess pieces to beat his sister has some more subtly to it.
While it wasn't, to, me as big of a "OH CRAP" moment that "Umbral Ultimatum" was (which btw, isn't that Caliborn's chathandle thing?) it was still a moment that, looking back, you understand the severity of. It's something that was later on a moment of knowing this huge dangerous creature, the reason for ALL of the problems in the Kids and Troll versions, started out there. Or maybe they ended there. At the beginning. Stupid Paradox Space.
LE's sarcophagus entering the dream bubble and the Felt Manor and his Time-aligned Questbed rising to make his entrance is such an underappreciated bit of genius
It was actually Dave’s LOHAC questbed, though it still serves the same sort of visual purpose regardless of if it was actually Caliborn’s or not. Also, the Dave that was on his questbed who Jack Noir killed was wearing the Felt Duds during it ;^]
Like, from the beginning the story was already random and crazy but you can see that it's from ectobiology that the story really gets even crazier than it already was.
I just realised that his kernel is absorbing his entire planet AND the dying gigant star, doesn't that mean that the Jack Noir of his session is going to have the power of a fucking litteral sun?
The bearer of the ring* would have the power. Derse and Prospit did exist in their session, in a sort of backwards way, since he had his sister assassinated on Prospit before he technically entered. I may have missed it, but the Prospit and Derse of his session were not explained very well.
Wooster CatSince he was a Derse dreamer, and is actively evil, I'm sure him and the Derse Royalty wouldn't have any problems. That being said, he probably destroyed Derse sometime during his quest.
@@volnartheunforgiving3952 Something to do with that server containing ~ATH code that was apparently floating in the void, it activated Lord English within Scratch somehow, likely through Lil Hal being a computer, the code was set to execute when the troll's universe ended, which happens, thus activating Lord English. But it's never been explained how, what, or who set up that server in the first place, you could think of a ton of plausible senarios that explain it's backstory, so it's not quite a TRUE plothole, but it's literally never been touched on since it was shown in [S] Begin Intermission 2.
Originally, in rl its a snake and a vulture. The snake supposedly can spit fire to protect the pharaho. I cant remeber the vulture, I think it has to do with the sky god.
Homestuck Fighting Game: It's a three character game, like Fighterz or Marvel vs Capcom. Except Lord English is one of the few characters who CAN'T be paired up with anyone, he fights solo. His super: THIS FUCKING SHIT.
This was where I stopped reading Homestuck so so very long ago. I still need to continue, especially now that it’s over, but this was the farthest i got 😅
angry green skeleton kamehameha's from his mouth all over the living after going to ridiculous lengths to get the prosthetic he always wanted and then growing so much he needs chest skin again.
I really don't know homestuck, I just like the music so here I go: There's this green dude who gnaws his leg off (I guess he's doing it now for story purposes that I don't know), and then this bigger version of him (I think? maybe cause he's missing that one tooth and his leg) is killing everyone because he's the antagonist or something like that. Then I'm really clueless of what the fuck is happening but I'm pretty sure is meaningful for you homestuck fandom
@@hachireloaded5717 In case you wanted to know: 1. The green guy previously shared his body with somebody else, but through the hired assassination of a physical manifestation of her mind, he gained full control of the body in spite of the natural order. 2. This, in turn, is why he bites one leg off while merely freeing the other, each of them can only open and close one of the chains. 3. As for the other crazy stuff, that glowing woven circle thing is a Kernelsprite, the green guy and all of the others play this game, normally, you put something inside the kernelsprite before entering and it customizes your game session for you, either increasing or decreasing the power of enemies in the process. 4. The game is, broadly speaking, a cooperative effort to create a new universe. The grey horned creatures are Trolls, who played the game twice, the first time they failed, and had to reset their session and universe. The second time around, their victory was guaranteed, but came saddled with the creation of the adult version of the green skull guy. Humans, and their universe, are the product of the one successful Toll session. 5. Because Green Guy killed his cohabitator, the only other player of his session, his kernelsprite instead became a black hole, he will have a very different experience from a normal playthrough, and instead of normal win and loss conditions, he will be offered a choice between the ultimate reward, and the ultimate sacrifice. Ofcourse, being ultimately selfish, he chooses the reward, and later becomes the monster we see here.
@@hachireloaded5717 Did you ever read a play? Hamlet or similar, anything, it's a lot like that. _Most_ of homestuck is reading lines, conversations over chat clients. Flash animations, and the music, are only a portion. I hope you do enjoy it, I just wanted you to be prepared.
I love how this animation does a slow "in case you haven't figured it out, Caliborn is Lord English."
That moment when even two god dogs are horrified at what just happened.
hope whenever homestuck 2 gets good it becomes like this
@@dragofire202 bad news from the future buddy
@@dragofire202 man
:(
@@dragofire202 with how it's now under new management with a competent and trustworthy team you should start praying for a new spark
The difference between a villain and a true antagonist;
PRESENTATION
gotta love how small little caliborn wields a large black staff that changes into a fucking sniper but almightly lord english who can shoot multi colored kamehamehas from his mouth wields a tiny ass wand that can snap if he sneezes too hard
Headcanon from years ago here but...
That's no wand. It's his stylus. His symbol of absolute authority over the timeline.
@@horrorfan117 ???
I always assumed that like Eridan, Caliborn discovered Rose's message out in the space between universes, but based on Act 7, maybe it's yet another thing he stole from his sister.
It's Calliope's wand. He took it from Hussie, because it was Doc Scratch's gun all along.
No, pretty sure that's Calliope's. Still has that BRAKABRAKA gun
I still remember feeling the pit in my stomach open up when his kernelsprite began to devour everything around it.
It's kinda horrifying that one of the few times caliborn seems at peace is when literally everything around him is being destroyed
4:48 You know the new villain is dangerous when even the guy that destroyed a GENESIS FROG,which,remind you,contains an entire universe and the fifth dimension,is scared of what just happened
Man, you forget how powerful English is sometimes. He can literally shatter parts of the void with ease and can evaporate all matter.
LE kills of the HorrorTerrors, actual godly entities, of the furthest ring with little competition.
Pretty powerful.
Alex Hackett Well tbh I think Jack Noir and PM might have killed some HorrorTerrors but I might just be mistaken, a sort of wrong place/wrong time dealy.
Beware the Man Who Speaks In Danks they killed a horrorterror on accident while they fought. LE however is actively hunting them down to destroy paradox space.
Alex Hackett Which proves how maniacal LE is.
Anything LE does becomes the alpha timelime.
To put into perspective LE’s power: You can see multiple dead and dying horrorterrors injured by the explosion at 4:40.
Feferi’s Lusus, which wasn’t even a horror terror itself, had the power to kill an entire galaxy with ONE SHRIEK.
And LE kills multiple stronger beings with no effort.
Explain His issue fighting them in the finale.
And the horrorterrors have blood matching Gamzee's... Still thinking that Rage aspect is linked to Madness.
@@deletedTestimony Yes... and no.
There's the definition of the Rage Aspect according to the Extended Zodiac :
"Those bound to the aspect of Rage are bringers of chaos. They posses great contempt for lies or false ideas, including the stability that false ideas can impart. To them, the true is far more important than the good; they would tear down a system just to destabilize it if, by their reckoning, it is built on faulty premises. Often the Rage-bound prefer anarchy to any of the alternate forms of civilization, which they believe to be riddled with lies and foolishness and obedient masses. They are bringers of confusion and doubt, and they can be frustratingly difficult to convince otherwise when they have attached themselves to an idea. If they sound dangerous, they are. The Rage-bound tend to be most volatile and unpredictable of the aspects. At their best they are original, revolutionary, and fearless. At their worst they are cruel, uncompromising, and vicious."
@@lindos602 Oh no worries, it's very simple, I don't believe in the Extended Zodiac
deletedTestimony I’m not sure I understand, it’s an official site, so what’s the problem ?
Wow this has forshadowing. It showed Equius' shades. Sadly the only thought that came to mind was "He has STRONGER muscles than me!"
Equius is jelly.
+Toddler-Kit and no his ashes
+Toddler-Kit He is so jelly he is jelly of himself (SPOILERS)
3 years later, but Equius is a part of LE so they are equal.
For a good sense of how serious this flash is, this is the only time we get to see a version of John die for good.
2:53 is anyone else sad about how the one in tve middle was actually the first john we followed?
Diskest
A year later- yes, very.
@@raptorcharly8055 5 months later-Same
The fact that all four of the original versions of John, Rose, Jade and Dave are dead will never not be a constant source of emotional pain for this fandom
@@melonwozard the original Dave gets to live until the epilogues where they take Lord English into the black hole with them. He made it through the whole thing.
Alex Dagos actually he dies when jack comes to take the copies of the game from him, he finds a dead dave that tried to fight jack, making him not to try again. Also he was killed and revived, tho the version of him that was killed remains in dream bubbles. Also a whole bunch of doomed daves before cascade
So if Caliborn became god tier then his ghost must be somewhere in the furthest ring. Just imagine Caliborn dying and being all disappointed when he stays dead and then he comes across the ghost army and they beat the shit out of him and he has no idea why.
tru but caliborn wouldnt join
Abelalks 3.0 I mean he would just be wandering around and a bunch of ghosts would jump him and he wouldn't know why. I wouldnt think he would join them.
I doubt he became god tier trough the normal way.
Memes He said so himself that he had to kill himself to GT.
Killing his actual self laying on the quest bed or on the sacrificial slab?
does anyone notice that the black hole from calibrons sprite sucks up a red star, while alternate calliope's black hole sucks up a green one?
how will this affect CaLebron’s legacy?
Aside from [S] Cascade, this is by far my favorite flash.
I can't get enough of the part at 3:49 to the end.
I agree, caliborn was my favourite character. The game gave him the hardest spawn which made his arc more enjoyable to read. The flash just felt so epic even though he's supposed to be the villain
@@runneypoHis kernelsprite was a freaking Black Hole, we all knew it could only go uphill from there
1:09 Never realized till now, the white snake is bigger than the black one
How sexual!
I just barely realized, but that was actually foreshadowing. Wow.
+Atomic Robo Tesla What was it foreshadowing? Im not entirely sure.
Andrew Roberts The fact that Calliope was the one meant to predominate over her brother. The only reason Caliborn took over is because he cheated.
Atomic Robo Tesla Kind of. The version of Calliope who actually Did predominate did so in a version of reality where she never knew other people yet still entered the game and God-tiered. She "ate" her brother's soul ( supposed to be a tenacious one..) and "drew comics to amuse herself".
It foreshadows that That version of her would end Lord English, not so much predominate since that necessitated Calliope finding her spot in paradox space hidden in Echinda's Lair.
Caliborn won because her aggravated his sister until she gave up. Considering that we've seen versions of the Felt sporting both pointed and rounded hats i'd say Caliborn's "joke" about switching the chess pieces to beat his sister has some more subtly to it.
While it wasn't, to, me as big of a "OH CRAP" moment that "Umbral Ultimatum" was (which btw, isn't that Caliborn's chathandle thing?) it was still a moment that, looking back, you understand the severity of. It's something that was later on a moment of knowing this huge dangerous creature, the reason for ALL of the problems in the Kids and Troll versions, started out there. Or maybe they ended there. At the beginning. Stupid Paradox Space.
Heh. If this scared you I wonder what you thought of Game Over.
Caliborn is undyingUmbrage, although the "UU" in that song's title certainly is interesting.
2:35 When you find out he isn't that into clowns you guess...
LE's sarcophagus entering the dream bubble and the Felt Manor and his Time-aligned Questbed rising to make his entrance is such an underappreciated bit of genius
It was actually Dave’s LOHAC questbed, though it still serves the same sort of visual purpose regardless of if it was actually Caliborn’s or not. Also, the Dave that was on his questbed who Jack Noir killed was wearing the Felt Duds during it ;^]
now THIS is a true main villain.
This is when the comic starts getting completely nuts
In fact, things went completely crazy after the introduction of ectobiology.
Like, from the beginning the story was already random and crazy but you can see that it's from ectobiology that the story really gets even crazier than it already was.
1:00 gives me chills to this day
So op that he can kill ghosts.
I mean a version of Dirk is in there. So it makes sense that he can get away with that.
I just realised that his kernel is absorbing his entire planet AND the dying gigant star, doesn't that mean that the Jack Noir of his session is going to have the power of a fucking litteral sun?
Don't think his session followed the same rules, so...
Anna. Do you have read the comic? They explaneid pretty well the Caliborn session
The bearer of the ring* would have the power. Derse and Prospit did exist in their session, in a sort of backwards way, since he had his sister assassinated on Prospit before he technically entered. I may have missed it, but the Prospit and Derse of his session were not explained very well.
Wooster CatSince he was a Derse dreamer, and is actively evil, I'm sure him and the Derse Royalty wouldn't have any problems. That being said, he probably destroyed Derse sometime during his quest.
+Ignis Solus perhaps they were both just sucked into the black hole during the "break", if thats what its called.
Hussie technically summoned lord english via killing doc scratch
I mean, he did kill doctor scratch to introduce a new, bigger villain. Like how an author will kill off a minor villain to introduce the main one.
@@CaribouGutSludge doc was meant to be an ANTAGONIST!? he barely even qualified as an asshole!
@@sumbuddy4088 i mean, he did kinda orchestrated alternias cruelty, so it feels more like a side villain to me. or a hench person?
Actually, it's apparently been confirmed that Scratch wasn't killed by Hussie.
Beats me what therefore ACTUALLY happened to him though.
@@volnartheunforgiving3952 Something to do with that server containing ~ATH code that was apparently floating in the void, it activated Lord English within Scratch somehow, likely through Lil Hal being a computer, the code was set to execute when the troll's universe ended, which happens, thus activating Lord English.
But it's never been explained how, what, or who set up that server in the first place, you could think of a ton of plausible senarios that explain it's backstory, so it's not quite a TRUE plothole, but it's literally never been touched on since it was shown in [S] Begin Intermission 2.
-[S] caliborn: enter-
[S] LoRD ENGLISH: enter
what are you talking about?
he's already here...
How do you expect him to enter
*WHEN HE'S ALREADY INSIDE ?*
Lord English = Caliborn + Lil Cal + Gamzee + Arquiusprite
@@higztv1166 isn't he also part first guardian
@@higztv1166 no wonder he's op
0:50 and at this part is where i got chills
When I first saw this I was freaking out and was in so much shock!!! Caliborn is lord english, HOLLY SHIT
01:16 fav part
Caliborn is a badass. No way of getting around that.
I LOVE CALIBORN RAHHHHH!!!! WTF IS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR SIBLING‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️💯💯💯💯💯💥💥💥💥
you're so real for this btw
The best version of this song.
We was ALREADY HERE with this one
I am a Vriska kinnie.
Calliborn
what if he took out his other leg instead because he read the symbols wrong?
Meanwhile in that timeline...
And that, my friends, IS WHY CALIBORN SHOULD GO GET SOME GLASSES!
+Voracious Commenter I was gonna comment that but then i saw you did xD
that was a good comic
he took of the leg because the lock was only for calliope to open and close it did really did not alter his soul or anything :/
The Wooden Cat they mean if he mixed up the chains
I should not be reading homestuck at 4 : 35 in the morning on the first day of school
So, how was that first day 4 years ago ?
yeah, how was it
How was first day
hey
hello, i instead read it on the last days of school, fun times
too op literally unplayable bungie pls nerf
It took the whole universe to beat this character in pvp, pls nerf hussie.
he literally has a doctrine of passing hUSSIE PLEASE
Originally, in rl its a snake and a vulture. The snake supposedly can spit fire to protect the pharaho. I cant remeber the vulture, I think it has to do with the sky god.
Bungo pls nurf Greg’s Promise too op pls bungo
Just liars handshake one two punch him
Homestuck Fighting Game:
It's a three character game, like Fighterz or Marvel vs Capcom.
Except Lord English is one of the few characters who CAN'T be paired up with anyone, he fights solo.
His super: THIS FUCKING SHIT.
That would be straight up ban-worthy, being able to one shot literally everything in sight
This is on the same level as Kid Buu fading the afterlife.
And here we can see the birth of the golden teeth that kills John in the epilogue....
Define badass.
This
Dave
Badass:
adj. _particularly difficult to achieve, and thus deserving of high praise or fear._
syn. _awesome,_ _impressive_
ghrrrr this music is making me feel some type uh way....
Can we point out how you can hear a small splashing sound effect when he puts the robot leg in at 2:14
02:52 - "Imma firin mah lazor!"
"No! Mah BIG Lazor!"
My friend said that twd was more hardcore then homestuck.
Then I showed her this.
She still thinks twd is more hardcore.
Did you explain to her how only one person in this flash was dead?
+Atomic Robo Tesla *three
xXSuperGLaDOSXx show her (S) GAME OVER lmao
Amethyst Daedrum (جينا ليما) the walking dead
This, game over, collide, and cascade are all valid arguments against her statement.
Huh, I didn't know the statue of liberty had so many clones!
Strider
This was where I stopped reading Homestuck so so very long ago. I still need to continue, especially now that it’s over, but this was the farthest i got 😅
i gasped so hard at this i activated my gag reflex and almost puked
You got english'd at 007712.
You're not even much of a villain anymore, you got PM'd and MS Painted all at once.
I LOVE YOU CALIBORN
and thus, one of the strongest fictional characters was born.
This is before Caliborn is even properly introduced.
did anyone else here saviour of the waking world right at the end really quietly
holy crap this is amazing
when this came out I really was afraid
is this a competitor in being the main antagonist in homestuck
pfft everyone knows im the best one
helllo my past version
Neophyte Redglare apperantly jack is redglare before redglare became redglare
This makes me wish there was version for Dead Tier Calliope when she entered.
Someone who doesn't know homestuck explain this
angry green skeleton kamehameha's from his mouth all over the living after going to ridiculous lengths to get the prosthetic he always wanted and then growing so much he needs chest skin again.
I really don't know homestuck, I just like the music so here I go:
There's this green dude who gnaws his leg off (I guess he's doing it now for story purposes that I don't know), and then this bigger version of him (I think? maybe cause he's missing that one tooth and his leg) is killing everyone because he's the antagonist or something like that. Then I'm really clueless of what the fuck is happening but I'm pretty sure is meaningful for you homestuck fandom
@@hachireloaded5717
In case you wanted to know:
1. The green guy previously shared his body with somebody else, but through the hired assassination of a physical manifestation of her mind, he gained full control of the body in spite of the natural order.
2. This, in turn, is why he bites one leg off while merely freeing the other, each of them can only open and close one of the chains.
3. As for the other crazy stuff, that glowing woven circle thing is a Kernelsprite, the green guy and all of the others play this game, normally, you put something inside the kernelsprite before entering and it customizes your game session for you, either increasing or decreasing the power of enemies in the process.
4. The game is, broadly speaking, a cooperative effort to create a new universe. The grey horned creatures are Trolls, who played the game twice, the first time they failed, and had to reset their session and universe.
The second time around, their victory was guaranteed, but came saddled with the creation of the adult version of the green skull guy.
Humans, and their universe, are the product of the one successful Toll session.
5. Because Green Guy killed his cohabitator, the only other player of his session, his kernelsprite instead became a black hole, he will have a very different experience from a normal playthrough, and instead of normal win and loss conditions, he will be offered a choice between the ultimate reward, and the ultimate sacrifice.
Ofcourse, being ultimately selfish, he chooses the reward, and later becomes the monster we see here.
@@IrvingIV thanks man, I've been considering reading homestuck for a while and I think I'll do it!
@@hachireloaded5717
Did you ever read a play?
Hamlet or similar, anything, it's a lot like that.
_Most_ of homestuck is reading lines, conversations over chat clients.
Flash animations, and the music, are only a portion.
I hope you do enjoy it, I just wanted you to be prepared.
We're in the endgame now
Goes HARR
Wow homestuck be popping off
5d chess with multiverse timetravel
That make me think,where are all the curtains?On the same planet?In different locations?One the battelfield?In Caliborn true land?
philéas
Beyond the fourth wall.
It is revealed, either earlier or later, that they are in a dreambubble, and Hussie is writing there.
Ah yes, our little anti-sjw's first murder spree. I remember it like it was yesterday.
rip leg.
Jack Noir orly, past me?
***** n-no Mr. English sir! D:
***** Your a evil cre- thingy... something? :oL
what?
+Lord English Sup boss
Avengers - Infinity War
What?
@@EQuivalentTube2 they said avengers infinity war
4:50
can it be that they are not that many B-Doomed timelines? there arent many human ghosts in the dreambubbles and those we see are all already known
there are ALOT of dream bubbles but the ones we see are mostly just for the A1 trolls so we get to know them
Tbf the b universe didn't have a homicidel clown going crazy in most timelines and killing everyone.
Isn't the main song English? Correct me if I'm wrong.
It's Eternity Served Cold, a it sure includes great portion of English.
Does anyone know how to make a black hole on Earth?
If so, create one.
Like, right now.
frik someone explain 1:20 to me. Where is that
One of the dream bubbles.
Those guys are dead versions of players.
Equivalent TheIncredible And now they're dead dead versions of those players
PIXLnxt Everyone is in one giant ass dream bubble and get rekt because of Lord English
+Pixl the furthest ring, dream bubbles
your typical halo fan K. I expect another answer again next year too
is this a Marksist work?
Yes
@@otherlego i'll pass then
@@Aku6Soku1Zan that was sarcasm also you spelled marxist wrong
It's, good, all American.
@@sumkindacheeto me is türkisch
WTF
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