Idk if you weren’t ready for the feedback I gave in a previous video, since you didn’t have all the essences yet that auroth uses in his latest dung and owf build. Now you do. And I can vouch that it’s amazing for both dung and owf, even though I don’t have summon damage reforges either. First, to answer your question about whether skill damage affects summon damage, it’s actually primary attack damage that affects the vast majority of summon damage. Certain summons, like the necro golem, have their own skills which are affected by skill damage, but primary damage is still definitely the more important one to stack for summons. Now some key things that would help you make summons better for you: 1) swap out your weakest gem for the build for freedom and devotion, like Christopher said. Believe it or not, at least for owf, your weakest gem for the build might be gloom cask. You should never have to primary attack with the build during owf, and you won’t get many primary attacks in even on dungeon bosses. My summons + vengeance alone melted bosses faster than any dungeon build I’ve played on any class, and I cycle between all classes. You can make gloom cask dormant if you don’t have the gem power to rank up feeedom and devotion. 2) anywhere but bosses, only drop one summon at a time, dropping the next when you get to around 1 3/4 charge and/or hit an orange or purple elite, which should still die behind you as you keep running. That’s all you need for owf and killing monsters as you go in dungeons/rifts/pillars/verge/etc. and oh boy is it a wonderful build for castle erreban, where you can safely open the door as your summons handle the monsters! Drop all your summons just before a boss spawns, and you should melt it before any of your summons die. 3) try fallow farm strafe with the movement speed mainhand, then one’s own fusillade offhand. That’s auroth’s build. 4) purify your curses to 6 vexed / 2 lashed. You were complaining the summon attack speed was slow. It won’t be with 4 vithus (+4 shepherds) and 6 vexed. Despite only having 50% movement speed compared to 70% on some classes, almost nobody could keep up with me in owf. That’s because, with the long range of the summons, I was able to cut corners and run tighter circles than most other classes can.
Thank you for the feedback. The thing is that i have no intension of changing my gem setup and there are many reason for that. Main is that i don't want to spend alot as of now and market itself is dead and my goal is to reach 4k reso. Also i like to test these new essences in a way that it could resonante with my playstyle and see how effective they are for me. I have gotten all the essences as of now and i personally am not impressed because they need a different direction to further enchance them and yes i do agree, primary is the strongest source.
Yeah, whole video and dude forgot the Strafe pet (off hand) there too. Actually using pets in DH is one of the best setups for Gauntlet bosses, since there are some pretty passive/semi-passive options now. Auroth himself used other versions of pets, along with vengeance, not the current ones. Vengeance pet (chest, now it's intangible, meaning it won't get hit by attacks), along with vengeance pants that made you and all summons in an area shower targets with additional attacks every 0.5s Strafe intangible pet, sentry intangible pet (helmet), which he uses too in pvp build with pets, just putting them in place and stepping back, letting them deal damage. I played all classes, and DH and Necro a lot, (Necro my main class, but I change around sometimes, while playing 4 other alts fixed to Necro, DH, Wizard and Crusader) and I envy the DHs pets. Sentry has low CD, last very long time, and has more options than necro's tankiesr one, golem, and I find Sentry tankier, with correct setup, its only downside being static, no more with the new helmet. I find it weird that the first intangible tanky pet is DH's, not necro, at least change the tank curse (pants) into an intangible 'pet' too, so necros can group mobs, even bosses without it dying instantly. DH, again, has the best tank in the game, in the form of the taunt trap, which is unnatackable, but 'taunts' everything within its area, which is somewhat big, for 5s (on 3 charges of 9s).
@@marcinostry I described the key differences between GZ’s test build and Auroth’s finished build. It’s RUclipsr Auroth’s, not mine. I like GZ as well, and I mean him no disrespect. He says full summons are not for him. Fair enough. I just wanted to share my experience with kicking butt with Auroth’s full summons build, not even being nearly as optimized for summons as he is.
Shadowsight ALWAYS in group content (dungeons, group ERifts, open woorld, etc), IMO haha, but specially in open world and rift farming at least, so you know where to go, and to detect those elites and goblins way before the rest. The extra speed boost lasts long enough (specially with vithu anyway), and it can help you dodge stuff faster in fights too.
DH have rly nice essences last times First they add strafe summon what was OP and funn After they add strafe with primary attack. What is still OP Now DH have got untargetable summons what follows and shoots like a crazy LOL I feel like all other classes are way behind DH
And DH summons seem better than necros in many ways. Sentry last longer, have a tone of pretty essences, even one making it intangible, while attacking continuously (pretty good for pvp and gauntlet, where high damage can negate summon builds), one in MH that increases damage up to ~400% and HP by up to ~520% (this one I use in Helliquary build, but with bombard/chilling helmet). They even made the vengeance pet intangible too, so you can have intangible sentry, strafe and vengeance pets now. Auroth even made a build with them for pvp, just drop em in place and DSwing back, they will deal enough damage to get mvp on kills if you push the rest of your setup (leg gems, reforge, etc), but even without those, you're already 80%+ good with just the essences and greens, without dying much.
Yea man, this is crazy. And funny same time Necro is true summoner class but have the worst summons in game 🤣 Even Crusarder have better summons( horse with knockback ) , wizard ( disintegrate for example ) DH new essences or old essence for Strafe EVEN TEMPEST have better summons xD I was Necro main for so long and this is one class summoner in game UNPLAYABLE in PvP as a summoner I hope Blizzard do somethink with Necro summoner PvP
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Idk if you weren’t ready for the feedback I gave in a previous video, since you didn’t have all the essences yet that auroth uses in his latest dung and owf build. Now you do. And I can vouch that it’s amazing for both dung and owf, even though I don’t have summon damage reforges either.
First, to answer your question about whether skill damage affects summon damage, it’s actually primary attack damage that affects the vast majority of summon damage. Certain summons, like the necro golem, have their own skills which are affected by skill damage, but primary damage is still definitely the more important one to stack for summons.
Now some key things that would help you make summons better for you:
1) swap out your weakest gem for the build for freedom and devotion, like Christopher said. Believe it or not, at least for owf, your weakest gem for the build might be gloom cask. You should never have to primary attack with the build during owf, and you won’t get many primary attacks in even on dungeon bosses. My summons + vengeance alone melted bosses faster than any dungeon build I’ve played on any class, and I cycle between all classes. You can make gloom cask dormant if you don’t have the gem power to rank up feeedom and devotion.
2) anywhere but bosses, only drop one summon at a time, dropping the next when you get to around 1 3/4 charge and/or hit an orange or purple elite, which should still die behind you as you keep running. That’s all you need for owf and killing monsters as you go in dungeons/rifts/pillars/verge/etc. and oh boy is it a wonderful build for castle erreban, where you can safely open the door as your summons handle the monsters! Drop all your summons just before a boss spawns, and you should melt it before any of your summons die.
3) try fallow farm strafe with the movement speed mainhand, then one’s own fusillade offhand. That’s auroth’s build.
4) purify your curses to 6 vexed / 2 lashed. You were complaining the summon attack speed was slow. It won’t be with 4 vithus (+4 shepherds) and 6 vexed.
Despite only having 50% movement speed compared to 70% on some classes, almost nobody could keep up with me in owf. That’s because, with the long range of the summons, I was able to cut corners and run tighter circles than most other classes can.
Thank you for the feedback. The thing is that i have no intension of changing my gem setup and there are many reason for that. Main is that i don't want to spend alot as of now and market itself is dead and my goal is to reach 4k reso.
Also i like to test these new essences in a way that it could resonante with my playstyle and see how effective they are for me. I have gotten all the essences as of now and i personally am not impressed because they need a different direction to further enchance them and yes i do agree, primary is the strongest source.
Yeah, whole video and dude forgot the Strafe pet (off hand) there too. Actually using pets in DH is one of the best setups for Gauntlet bosses, since there are some pretty passive/semi-passive options now. Auroth himself used other versions of pets, along with vengeance, not the current ones.
Vengeance pet (chest, now it's intangible, meaning it won't get hit by attacks), along with vengeance pants that made you and all summons in an area shower targets with additional attacks every 0.5s
Strafe intangible pet, sentry intangible pet (helmet), which he uses too in pvp build with pets, just putting them in place and stepping back, letting them deal damage.
I played all classes, and DH and Necro a lot, (Necro my main class, but I change around sometimes, while playing 4 other alts fixed to Necro, DH, Wizard and Crusader) and I envy the DHs pets. Sentry has low CD, last very long time, and has more options than necro's tankiesr one, golem, and I find Sentry tankier, with correct setup, its only downside being static, no more with the new helmet.
I find it weird that the first intangible tanky pet is DH's, not necro, at least change the tank curse (pants) into an intangible 'pet' too, so necros can group mobs, even bosses without it dying instantly. DH, again, has the best tank in the game, in the form of the taunt trap, which is unnatackable, but 'taunts' everything within its area, which is somewhat big, for 5s (on 3 charges of 9s).
Cannu send ur own build?
@@marcinostry I described the key differences between GZ’s test build and Auroth’s finished build. It’s RUclipsr Auroth’s, not mine.
I like GZ as well, and I mean him no disrespect. He says full summons are not for him. Fair enough. I just wanted to share my experience with kicking butt with Auroth’s full summons build, not even being nearly as optimized for summons as he is.
Thx a lot @@ShimshonDI
Ive been seening people use that build with shadowsight for a speed run burst
hmm interesting
Shadowsight ALWAYS in group content (dungeons, group ERifts, open woorld, etc), IMO haha, but specially in open world and rift farming at least, so you know where to go, and to detect those elites and goblins way before the rest. The extra speed boost lasts long enough (specially with vithu anyway), and it can help you dodge stuff faster in fights too.
You can use the rank 1 gem that prolong the summon ?
That we can
What's your PC Processor, Video and Memory(RAM)? I want compare yours to mine.
3900x, 32GB RAM, RTX 3070. Playing on NVME that has 2000 Read Speed
DH have rly nice essences last times
First they add strafe summon what was OP and funn
After they add strafe with primary attack. What is still OP
Now DH have got untargetable summons what follows and shoots like a crazy
LOL
I feel like all other classes are way behind DH
U must not play a DH lol
@@Aliefian713 i play all classes LOL
And DH summons seem better than necros in many ways. Sentry last longer, have a tone of pretty essences, even one making it intangible, while attacking continuously (pretty good for pvp and gauntlet, where high damage can negate summon builds), one in MH that increases damage up to ~400% and HP by up to ~520% (this one I use in Helliquary build, but with bombard/chilling helmet).
They even made the vengeance pet intangible too, so you can have intangible sentry, strafe and vengeance pets now.
Auroth even made a build with them for pvp, just drop em in place and DSwing back, they will deal enough damage to get mvp on kills if you push the rest of your setup (leg gems, reforge, etc), but even without those, you're already 80%+ good with just the essences and greens, without dying much.
Yea man, this is crazy.
And funny same time
Necro is true summoner class but have the worst summons in game 🤣
Even Crusarder have better summons( horse with knockback ) , wizard ( disintegrate for example )
DH new essences or old essence for Strafe
EVEN TEMPEST have better summons xD
I was Necro main for so long and this is one class summoner in game UNPLAYABLE in PvP as a summoner
I hope Blizzard do somethink with Necro summoner PvP