Meet Two Of The Worst Players In DnD History I Have Ever Encountered | Narrated D&D Story
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"because that's a reasonable reaction to someone not liking being talked down to, right?"
No, but it's at least a semi-reasonable reaction to being *shot*
until you consider his actions were putting the whole group in danger, not just himself--not to mention HE WAS IN THE BLAST RADIUS HIMSELF
@@willparry530 would have to say that's a situational call. The GM already admitted to some questionable homebrew content. Autocrits on firearms in close range, think I've seen a few call that out.
If he's been faithful with calling damage up to this point everyone in the blast radius should be dead with a few exceptions. Evasion literally being one of them.
If he's being kind he could have informed the guy what that would do. Or as DM there's any number of ways to Deus Ex Machina the situation. Maybe have a TPK and then Deus Ex Everyone but him.
Players get crazy with fireball in tight spaces all the time.
@@buckshott00 The problem with your point is--it's homebrew content that they all agreed to, or they never would have been playing with it in the first place.
We really have no idea if the DM gave him a warning IC or not, all we know is basically the consequences of their action, and It's fair to say the DM WAS being kind because the combat didn't continue to someone dying. Not even the barbarian who made those dumb calls.
He had it coming.
Do you deserve to get shot for flirting with a pirate captain? Probably not.
Do you deserve to get shot if a pirate captain pulls a gun on you and tells you to watch your mouth, and your response is to insult the captain ON THEIR TURF, IN THEIR CITY claiming their "pop gun" doesn't scare you? Definitely. Absolutely.
Nothing could break my immersion more than the leader of a band of Sea Gangsters not making good on a threat to shoot someone while being taunted in front of their entire crew
I think the consequences in the first story didn't quite fit the crime. Dude's Johnny Bravo. Johnny Bravo is funny. If the dude had been playing Johnny right he just would have taken the shot to the face in stride without letting it get him mad or affecting his party. After all, Johnny getting hurt and shrugging it off in the next scene was part of the fun.
"Hey there pretty lady. Wanna go back to my place and watch me comb my hair?" -Johnny Bravo
@@dustincameron787 Dont forget the, Hoo! Ha! Hur!
"Quiet steve "
Maybe if he did The Monkey, the fight wouldn't have happened. :P
Johnny Bravo is free of the burden of hit points. He had to choose fight or flight. Getting shot will do that to you.
The tiefling was lucky his party tried to talk down Bonne and then he surrendered. If it was me I would’ve sold him out on the spot.
First dude seemed fine? Roleplayed the low int well. Gave up when they failed. Didn't hear anything about bad behavior from the player. Didn't heavily roleplay but thats no crime, especially with a knuckle dragger of 6 int. Not ideal, but far from the worst around.
Entire party when tiefling degenerate pisses off the pirate queen: I have never met this man in my life.
YIRBEL LIVES!
I was thinking the same thing. They really shouldn't have began a battle.
He might have been with them earlier. So plausible denyability might have been off the table.
@@timwoods2852 That was my thought as well...the laying low that the OP mentioned may have been that they came to the island to keep out of sight of some other enemy.
For the pirate queen I'm surprised there wasn't a player who in game had they're character straight up be like nope and leave or grab a snack (in game) pull up a seat and watch the show
@@soulslayer9852 Yeah, same.
"Men can be sexually assaulted, women can be perverts, it's not illegal to feel uncomfortable when someone takes their bra off in front of you, and/or makes sexual jokes every five minutes." People in Japan understand those things, so I don't see why so many Americans FAIL to realize them; PREACH OP PREACH!
The dumbs answer would be if she is hot then why are you complaining lol sorry
@@nexusaquarion9281 that was just a joke right?
@@ezrafaulk3076 no, he isn't joking, what he said is literally what people say in these situations if the victim is a man. A girl is assaulted and everyone is crazy (what is the right reaction), but if a guy is a victim, he should be proud of being violated, used and discarded like a fucking toy (no pun intended). Just thinking about this gets me angry
@@ezrafaulk3076 He's basically saying that if a guy gets raped by a hot woman he must have enjoyed it, it's a stereotype here in the West. Men aren't taken seriously. A lot of men would be like the Dumb answer from above "If she's hot then why are you complaining about being raped." Also, this is pretty much every Western country, some are getting better but if a guy goes forward and says he's been raped there is shaming and distrust towards that man.
people in japan also have a HUGE public sexual assault problem where you can molest a girl on the train/bus/middle of a bar and no one does SHIT about (though if the girl tries to defend herself,SHE can get arrested for assault). don't pretend that japan has sex down,cause they REALLY don't.
In my oppinion the best way to deal with inappropriate or uncomfortable subject matter in D&D , like sex, gore, etc, is to bring it up in sesion 0, and make sure everyone is on the same page with what is acceptable to do or act like in game. This is also makes it so that the player or players that decide to act in a inappropriate way cant complain when they get kicked.
Aye, open communication is key to players being comfortable with the campaign.
Fully agree it's about open communication and managing expectations. Some players might be more comfortable with different aspects. Sex, Drugs, Gore, Slavery, Discrimination etc.
Based on the stories this channel is airing lately, it's like there's a whole generation of players that have never had a Ravenloft campaign.
@@buckshott00 Or just a whole generation of players that didn't learn to communicate :P
@@willparry530 Think that if you like but the history of all of mankind is filled with sex and violence, failing to communicate that is the real fantasy...
::Throws entire box of grenades:: "Because that's a reasonable reaction to somebody not liking being talked down to, right?"
Of course not. But it's also not a reasonable excuse to shoot somebody in the face.
Now, it could be argued that it's a reasonable response to hurl a box of grenades at somebody who just shot you in the face. :/
I would say one grenade, not the whole box--ESPECIALLY when you and your friends are in the blast zone too.
I mean... I would not have had a problem with the 1st guy. Social encounters become combat all the time. Including him makes me sus how sensitive they were
@@pitchforksdragon1252 so you wouldn't have had a problem with the first guy hogging the spotlight on your own character's backstory?
Trying to kill her is a reasonable reaction to someone trying to kill you... its funny how "is a reasonable" question actually applys to the npc, not the player
One word: "Pirate"
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim oh sure, at a stretch i agree her amazingly bad and oddly evil behavior could be chocked up to her being a pirate. Absolutely. It would fit if she was a depraved psychopath, and most pirates were. But the theam of the story is that barbarian was a bad player. He wasn't. He was just fine. Maybe evan good. The npc was the shitty person, and questionably played. The actual moral of this story is that player couldn't trust the other players, that did nothing to try back him up after being attacked.
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim two words: self defence
You're telling me you don't expect a crime boss' threat to be serious? She has a reputation to keep, it's not anyone who can adress her like he did out in the open
@@lkuhhdsfgasdgvdadfg no. You’re talking to a pirate QUEEN (who’s help you NEED ) and are being completely disrespectful. DM’s actions were totally justified, and he even took it easy on the party, by not punishing them for the Dbag’s actions.
once i played a female air ship captain that loved her crow and ship. a player came and traid to take frome her the control of the ship... he was tused away in the air
Please tell me it was the first mate that killed him.
@@NicoBlack69 he was on of them
The first story kind of reminds me of a group I ran where the group's Brawler decided to start actively pissing off the Goddess of Death in her own temple. I didn't have her manifest, but he was in serious danger of finding out how capable her clerics were. Some people just don't understand sometimes you need to not pick a fight.
Ikr?
the water boarding is okay in dnd is a phrase i didnt think id hear
Given that people recognize torturing is not a good act by any means, I'd say it's ok to be allowed in the game.
@@willparry530 Depends on the group.
@@zotaninoron3548 perhaps, but it still wouldn't have the same feel if their superiors were *competent* amirite? :P
So basically a video about two players who could not even become murderhobos.
Since their inner Thughobo's were even stronger.
I dont know....being shot point blank would make me chuck a grenade too.
Yeah I think talking down to someone is far less hurtful than SHOOTING SOMEONE IN THE FACE!!!
@@liamdalemon1525 exactly.
@@liamdalemon1525 Idk i wouldnt walk up to a mafia boss, start talking shit, and expect to not get my ass kicked, idk why pirates would be different
@@CS-sf5nq well the DM phrased it like he was being unreasonable for attacking someone, WHO LITERALLY SHOT THEM IN THE FACE!!! ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS, AND MAYBE TRYING TO INFLICT A LETHAL INJURY UPON SOMEONE IS GONNA MAKE THEM PISSED OFF! also which is a better way to start a fight according to you? talking or attempting murder?
I'm not saying I think that the guy shouldn't have been shot, I'm saying that the DM seemed completely oblivious to how the guy throwing bombs was only doing so because he took a bullet to the face. he's kinda victim blaming
@@liamdalemon1525 i mean dude taunted them after being threatened, clearly wanted to get shot, definitely acted with a death wish.
And the whole thing with the grenades is still stupid because he was in the blast zone, as well as his party, and he probably could have stopped fighting and gotten out alive, he caused the whole problem himself and it literally blew up in his face lol
Props to the DM for having the Pirate Queen being named Bonny Ann, though I would be disappointed if one of her closest companions or had a friendly rival Pirate Queen named Marry Read.
Damn, Bonny Anne is so damned good a name.
Anne Bonny was a real Irish Pirate, so not too strange to switch around and use as a pirate queen.
how do you dodge and evade 12 simultaneous explosions with just physical prowess alone... physically impossible and brain damaging to think about...
I had a player in my game several years ago that wanted his barbarian to have sex with a call girl in a tavern. I told him that he goes up to the room and has sex with her. That wasn't enough for him. He wanted to be explicit about the entire thing. I informed him that I didn't want to go that route. We were just going to say he went up to the room and had sex and leave it at that. He stated that wasn't happening. That on his turn he was going to to be explicit about the encounter and I could stop him. SMH. OKAY. So, as he is explicitly describing what is happening, I let him know what goes in, does not come out. He stated that yes, does come out. I told him no. Sharp teeth has just clamped down on "him". He said I was obviously confused because he didn't say anything about being near the woman's mouth. I told him I knew exactly where he was and that sharp teeth are clamping down. You're in bed with a doppelganger. So, he starts flailing around in the room beating this thing with his bare hands and only doing half the damage due to them being too close together for him to use his full strength. The rest of the group just sat there and laughed at his predicament. He finally killed the doppelganger and came down stairs and asked the rest of the party if they heard him upstairs. They all smiled and said, "Yeah, sounded like you had an amazing time!" He shouted that the hooker was a doppelganger and he was fighting for his life upstairs. The party told him out of character, "Maybe the next time the DM tells you he doesn't want to get explicit in sessions... maybe you should just accept that and move on."
I hate when people homebrew firearms to be "more lethal"
Guys. . .getting stabbed is just as lethal. So does every Melee weapon get boosted too? Arrows too?
Like. . .all weapons are lethal.
i agree with the arrows to a point. with Guns in games, it's usually always the same damage, when in reality a gun up close does more damage than a gun at a distance and you have better accuracy and chance of hitting vital organs deep in, all together, increases the crit and piercing of the projectile, ergo more damage. it's to make it more realistic to how guns are in real life. arrows should be the same way, though you also take into account that with an arrow, if you keep it lodged you can use the arrow to stem the bloodflow for a time and continue while with bullets that's not as simple b/c smaller.
TL;DR Not actually 'more lethal' period, just greater chance of causing more legal damage like reality.
armor made to stop a sword or an arrow will do jackshit to a gun, even an early era musket. if you're trying to stab or cut someone with a sword and they're wearing plate armor they won't even feel it unless you aim for a gap in the armor. if you shoot someone wearing that same armor, even with a musket ball and not a bullet, it's going to go right through at point blank range(unless the armor is reinforced, but that's already an armor specifically made to be resistant to gunfire). it's not really about making them "more lethal" but more about making the gun feel like it can go through the defense of the enemy with relative ease compared to a sword or an arrow.
3:46 I mean, she DID just try to blow his head off.
I would have too if some dumbass was trying to enter my personal space after rejecting their advances.
@@faylinnmystiquerose2224 so if you SHOOT SOMEONE IN THEIR FUCKING HEAD I suppose you expect them to just be cool with it?
@@faylinnmystiquerose2224 My point is that once the other party has tried to kill you, trying to kill them back is not escalation.
@@liamdalemon1525 Actually I'd expect them to be dead but anyway the NPC was a Pirate Queen and they were in her territory, and she did threaten him with the gun first and tell him to back off, genius just didn't take the hint and got shot as a result. Even if they had succeeded in killing her they would probably have had to contend with the rest of the island, kind of a bad idea there.
@@liamdalemon1525 it's not like she shot first, she actually bothered to give him a warning, it's just that he ignored the warning and suffered the consequences, the same way one would get bit if they ignored the warning sound of a rattlesnake.
Bonnie Anne not taking any damage from a box full of grenades just might be the most stupid move I’ve seen- and handwaving it as “she’s a very high level rogue”. Bruh. She’s at least taking half damage on ONE of those 🙄
If the DM is going by Play as Written rules, then one of the abilities the Rogue, and Monk, have is Evasion which negates damage from sources that require a Dexterity Saving Throw or receive half as much from a failed saved. Very stupid and broken. Though it would explain how the party's rogue managed to come off unharmed from the explosions. Personally I would have made them roll a Constitution Saving Throw but stuff happens.
If you want realism in the game, most classes just lose more than half of their abilities.
@@kani75 There's things line class abilities not being 100% realistic, but then there's literally 10 grenades exploding right next to you and you not taking any damage, despite having no cover at all.
It's a game with literal magic and mythical creatures and you're complaining about realism? Not not mention it being a heavily homebrewed game on top, so who knows what rules or things were going on behind the scenes.
@@MarkATorres1989 the implication of Evasion is that you move till you are outside the radius of the damage. At least that was how we always treated it anyway.
Sheesh. "That Girl" has issues. Sadly, I see myself in her just a little bit. Though I thankfully got better as a person and as a player with better friends and mental help. My main group can handle dark subject matter like sexual assault or child abuse. Thing is, we only expect that behaviour from the villains in the campaign. It highlights that they really need their teeth kicked in something bad.
And even then, that kind of behaviour has to spaced out pretty far apart to truly make the subject matter meaningful. Having those kinds of atrocities happening everywhere you go in-game will make you numb to them, which diminishes the importance of stopping such monstrous actions. And above all else, that kind of role-playing is not acceptable from the players, as it gives a very disturbing look into who they really are as people. GMs can get away with it (to a degree) because they have to play the role of the villain and the villains are meant to be defeated.
With all of that considered, you still need to take into account what subject matter your group is okay with. Everybody has to be comfortable with what happens at the table. That's how you get good D&D.
This. All of this. I agree 100%
I once played a princess from a race of asexual mushroom people. Our Barbarian was always looking for a brothel and she’s just like “What is a brothel?”
have her ask that while sporing on a nearby tree for added irony.
The barbarian 🎵Let me show you the world🎵
@@TheItzal11 LOL
Discount Princess Peach
@@tylercoon1791 HA! I regret I have but one upvote to give you for that comment.
The Pirate queen event reminds me of a time i played a homebrew DnD session set in the warhammer universe where our witch hunter (Rogue fighter Hybrid) blasted the skull open of one of our early contacts with a flintlock pistol (Firearms worked very similarly, to the way they worked in the pirate story). His excuse for doing so was "there was clearly a heretical aura sourrounding this man!" we all were kind of mad for at him for a bit thinking he was just a murderhobo until it was revealed that the man he shot was actually a high ranking chaos worshipper and our witch hunter had read between the lines of our conversation with him and concluded that he really was evil. Apprantly going on a hunch and killing out of the blue is actually effective sometimes.
i'm just gonna say it again;
please, less negative stories and more positive ones.
Tv and media is full of negative stories already.
Because the world is going to shit, and people like you are enabling it. If you'd stop running away, it wouldn't be so stressful to you.
This video is a testament to the fact that "horny jail" should be a real thing.
Not all horn should go there tho-
The second group doesn't sound like they were overly sensitive, at least, not until the waterboarding explanation, but when you have to say that it's okay to be overly sensitive, then it makes it seem like they're being overly sensitive and trying to cover it up.
The reason I disagree with the whole not waterboarding a 15 year old is that Children are often dangerous, especially a teenager going through their angsty years. And I've heard and seen far too many stories of Child Soldiers getting the drop on people by acting innocent. Though, I wouldn't waterboard anyone unless they made it relatively clear they knew important information about what we were after, and that's a last resort. Well, close to last, there are more severe things like nails under the fingernails. Or being in a tight room with your average Wizard.
Not to mention that a 15-year old in a medieval setting is practically an adult. I kinda understand people not accepting sexual assault in the game though, since some players might have had some bad experiences with that that they don´t want to be reminded of or talk about.
I don't think you understand the damage waterboarding can do to a person. It's cutting off oxygen to the brain. That can cause death and brain damage pretty quickly. It also causes seizures and vomiting, which in combination leads to victims choking to death on their own vomit. Additionally victims can just drown or the use of dirty water can cause infections in the throat and lungs which can also kill people.
A needle under nails is painful. But in terms of physical injury it leads to the loss of a nail. Waterboarding can and does kill or cause life long physical disability. It just doesn't leave obvious external scars.
Not anything against how you run your games. You have fun and play in a way you enjoy. But at the same time it's not overly sensitive for people who deal with the reality of this stuff to not want it in their games.
@@lkriticos7619 100% this
1 genado = 3rd level fireball spell (aka 8d6)
Tiefling Barbarian: "Imma use 12 of these at once for getting shot!"
Me: "Well I'm no fool but I don't think he's gonna survive 96d6 points of fire damage especially after taking 44 points of damage from getting shot point-blank in the face."
yeah i dunno. In the first story. It kinda sounds like the DM was taking things a little too personally.
I just want to put this out there, the homebrew firearm rules in the first story are stupidly, ridiculously broken. You basically get a free crit at 10 feet, in addition to being able to crit on top of that. Reload times can even be negated by things like rapid reload, which makes this even worse. On top of that some abilities give you AoOs in the range that this double damage homebrew would affect. It also makes it nigh suicidal to close distance and attack in Melee, especially if a character carries multiple guns because five foot steps exist, which pressures players to fight from range, which really shouldn't be how guns work.
Guns are... ranged weapons why shouldn't guns "work that was"? Besides if it works for him as a dm and players are having fun who cares about balance? DnD is inherently unbalanced also DRAMA (yknow the thing that makes fights, dialogue and other rp scenarios) is based on imbalance.
They could be going for some version of realism, theres a reason why after guns became popular melee weapons became very ineffective
@@DaxterL there's a difference between a fun challenge and utter nonsense. This also isn't just a difference between the players and something like a boss, considering this also applies to player characters and is such an overwhelming advantage compared to every other weapon that it actively disincentivizes build diversity.
Yes guns are ranged weapons, which means that staying at range to combat a ranged weapon should be the dumb thing to do. With ranged weapons the generally advisable strategy is to close the distance so that the range is no longer an advantage. This mechanic throws that very logical strategy out the window and forces people to spec into ranged attacks.
@@CS-sf5nq the reason for that was because closing the distance became nearly impossible, and firearms advanced beyond what armor could keep up with. However, this was not because weapons miraculously doubled in firepower at close range. Armor was less likely to make a difference at a certain range, but a bullet doesn't suddenly do twice as much to your body because of that, and in some systems, guns are already way more likely to hit and do damage than other weapons. If something hits in D&D, it generally symbolizes that you got around the person's armor in some way, like you cut into a gap in plate armor, or you shoot a hole in it with a gun. Those aforementioned systems represent this far better than double damage does. You could simply adapt one of those systems for 5E and it would be way less broken than what was done here.
@@danielhounshell2526 I mean getting shot up close is generally worse than getting shot from a distance
i dont know why youre trying to tell people how to run their game when it sounds like none of the players had a problem with it, just cause you feel they need to play it a certain way doesnt mean they should, its just your opinion
"Your Consequences, have Actions!" is a funny phrase i pretty much like. whenever something goes to shite and makes you roll for initiative~
*reads title*
"No, I don't think I will"
I wonder if they used modified point buy, with permission seeing as standard point buy the lowest score you can get is an 8.
Dragonborn Forge Cleric from the first party here. We were playing a heavily homebrewed game and he took minuses from base scores to max out other munchkin stats.
@@Zsenmalic Was he actually misogynistic or did they just rub the DM the wrong way one too many times?
@@Squall598 Is* and now that we have a female player, he's making passes at her even though her BF is at the table too
@@Zsenmalic Yikes, how is this player not kicked from the group yet? Ingame at least can *potentially* be excused, but no excuse for even remotely similar behavior out of character.
@@Zsenmalic That makes a lot of sense. I just couldn't put my finger on if the OP was leaving some stuff out.
I accidentally blew up an entire continent with a full set of fire beads. A single bead equals one fireball spell, full fire bead necklace... Nuclear fallout.
yikes XD
I wouldn't say party 2 was overly sensitive that was just in poor taste.
“Bonne Anne the pirate queen” I SEE WHAT THEY DID THERE
I call bull shit . I dont care what the rules say no one dodges that many grenades at point blank range lol.
Yeah I agree. This is what I like to call: the rule of projectile dysfunction. (Somehow taking no damage from something that should inflict serious injury)
@@liamdalemon1525 you also have to account for potential cover, and that grenades are a weapon that throws out shrapnel. The shrapnel is what inflicts damage.
The Shockwave from an explosion can fuck up your internal organs so it's safe to say everyone in the room is very hurt and no amount of evasion or cover will help.
Okay that dm went too far. Maybe the tiefling was being a misogynist but the fact that somehow the pirate queen was allowed too dodge 12 fireball explosions in a row and reacted to being hit on by player with attempted murder and a big boss fight idk why he was painted in such a bad light
Story 1- This Tiefling Barbarian sounds a lot like Gaston from Beauty and the Beast- and also got what he deserved.
Story 2- WTF? This person has the emotional maturity of a 3 year old- which might be an insult to 3 year olds. Good bye and good riddance.
Yeah atleast the tiefling barbarian learned his listen, I hope? as for the girl? Thats just weird as fuck.... but you get those "gamer girls" sometimes who act like they do whatever they want because they are a girl.....I had a similar player once who was the same way and honestly she got kicked the same way so good riddance to her.
Now I can see the pirate queen being unhinged enough to consider a shot in the face as an apropriate response to flirting.
But I don't like the whole tone of OP in that first one. He keeps calling the barbarian a misogynist but he fails to provide an example of that (unless he considers going to brothels and flirting misogynistic) and he also seemed very eager to excuse a murder attempt when the NPCs do it, yet waved away the barbarian retaliation as inapropriate.
Seems more like the GM was an incel with a hateboner for the barbarian than anything else.
Yeah, OP came off as a bit of an ass with a grudge against the PC
The way I see it, the dude was just doing what his character would have done.
In my group we just play for the fun of it, of course we can get serious.But the highlights are when we play unconventionally. Like the time we were taking a quest from someone we knew was sketchy, rather then follow their quest we made a stupid pun and began attacking.
We got wiped, but we were laughing the entire time because of how ridiculous it was.
And to be honest, that Teifling had way more restraint than us, he actually surrendered when the party was getting mad at him. I think that player should find another group or at least another DM if they really get that annoyed over a little thing.
Heck my group would gladly take him, he’d fit right in.
Those grenados would've done 576 damage if they all hit at max 😅
Why did I get a notification that this video was uploaded yesterday?
I got that too, but when I clicked on it, it said it was unavailable; I don't get it.
Channel members get to see it earlier.
@@R3GARnator but we're NOT members; so why did WE get the pop-up?
@@ezrafaulk3076 That's what I'd like to know, too.
yeah, no matter what the chick needed banned the second she uttered that disgusting line. My dnd discord server failed when it came to that and so we let one toxic person stay way to long. Should had known when the dude said that he was gonna seduce an aboleth that he shouldnt of been allowed to stay
Seduce a WHAT now?!
I once had a sorcerer who blew up an innocent caravan that got short by a wheel beside a road and tried negotiating with nomads charging against the party.
Had a campaign with a few players like this. One guy sat down at our table for the first time, made a female drow Ranger with 18 Charisma, described her as voluptuous and dressed in black leather, and immediately came onto my Fighter like a drunken prom date. Threw a tantrum when I refused. He was a friend of the hostess, so I couldn't kick him until he sexually assaulted another player.
Another player was aggressively atheist. Most of us didn't care, but we got a new player who was a devout Christian, and she bullied him out of the group with nasty jokes.
The pinnacle of the experience was when I had to miss half a session, and when I came back, I found my character was unconscious, and their characters were charmed, and were on top of my character, using the butt of his spear as a marital aid.
YIKES
Well I think waterboarding a 15-year old in dnd is perfectly fine as long as it fits the campain.
that gun homebrew is bad just begging for trouble
I am the 2 worst players, and you cant convince me otherwise
I dunno, can you top both these stories combined?
@@willparry530 as a cleric, i once left a player at 118 health without healing him back to 119
@@DeimosTheDude Oh no, you FIEND
A reasonable response to being talked down to? The bitch shot him! And how in the hell do you reasonably “evade” a box of grenades? I get thems the rules but I was legit rooting for the 1st guy.
Bonny Anne? Really? Wow that's lazy.
For a while when I was DMing via Discord, we had that one girl which constantly tried to get herself raped for "character development" and engaged private ERP, (with what I don't have issues with as long they don't bring it to the server), with a character which was actually a Minor IC. Technically two things I should have banned her for in the first place, but I left it with a warning. Though worse thing was that she later turned out to be a Minor herself and began to blackmail the player she ERP'd with.
DnD attracts weird kinds of people.
To be fair, anything seen as 'nerdy' will attract certain elements, especially if it allows for one to play out a fantasy without any perceived consequences.
Either water boarding is funny or it is not. Correct answer is water boarding is not ever funny.
Int and Cha are not mutually exclusive. Someone with a 60IQ is going to have a hard time seducing anything but a shoe box.
No, there is enough prove that's not true
Forrest Gump is a good example of a low INT high CHAR character.
People like to virtue signal about "wanting intelligence", but really that's a way of saying "I'm smart, be good enough for me". It's a social trick every time, no one should be falling for it. The arrogance of "high standards" is your implication that you can meet them.
@@screwgoogle4993 I want someone that's at least close ro my intelligence, at least on a base level. You can be as much of an idiot as you want, I'm an idiot too most of the time, but I don't want a partner that is genuinely stupid. I wanna have long conversations that can get interesting and complex or just give theories about anything really, and just have someone to think about them with. If I want to spend the rest of my life with someone, I at least want someone that doesn't make me angry by just talking. And I don't mean "You have to be incredibly intelligent, otherwise you're to low for me", there are just some people out there who are just painfully stupid. All the time.
@@privpi Your reply proves my point. If you lack the intellect to even communicate correctly, like you just showed, no one is going to want to be with you. There are chubby chasers, there are skinny chasers, there are short, tall and ugly chasers, but there is no record anywhere of an idiot chaser.
So wait the first dude is called a misogynist because he chose to go to taverns, wants to have sex at brothels and built his character to have high CHA and strength but no intelligence? How in blazes is that misogynist? Barbarians normally put INT as their low stat anyway.
From what was said he didn't talk down to her, he said he isn't afraid of the pop gun. So unless that is code for something else he wasn't being misogynist. And he threw the bombs not because she was a woman but because she shot him point blank, probably in his face.
That 2nd one. Man id like to play some battletech with that one.
I love how the girl *immediately* played the misogyny card •> you're out.*
-Player: wth this is misogyny 😠
Just for the record: i don't mind NSFW stuff in DnD, but it's an obvious rule of thumb that you should keep that stuff in NSFW campaigns, and make sure everyone is cool with that kinda stuff before even running session 0 :/
She looks much more like the kind of gunslinger I'm familiar with.
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I mean true, the tiefling was a dumbass and pissed her off, but she shot him first. Should he not have fought back and just stood still to be killed at that point?
She actually gave him a warning first, like how a rattlesnake rattles its tail. He just chose to ignore the warning. It's not like she just shot him the first time he opened his mouth.
@@willparry530 You're correct. But in DnD, combat tends to be a one way street. Once it starts, you're in battle, doing things and rolling dice. When the DM says to roll initiative, it almost universally means that the time for talk is over.
@@repthe21st66 You're right, but that's beside the point. Initiative wasn't rolled until AFTER he was shot. The order of events was as follows.
1. He burst into someone else's scene and hit on her.
2. She pulled a gun and gave him a warning.
3. He ignored said warning and hit on her again.
4. Trigger was pulled.
5. Initiative rolled.
6. Another player takes their turn and tries to reason with her.
7. He throws an entire box of grenades while he's close enough to her to be IN THE BLAST ZONE.
A more reasonable response would have been trying to punch her, take her weapon, or pull an actual melee weapon on her, maybe throw ONE grenade. He's a barbarian iirc, so he could take more damage than she could. But what he did was beyond dumb and could have resulted in his own death. Or he could have tried to retreat after finally realizing his mistake. But no, he goes straight to maximum escalation.
@@willparry530 True, the grenade idea was dumb. No denying that.
I'm not sure what you're arguing about when it comes to the initiative though
@@repthe21st66 I think it's honestly because I'm not 100% certain why you're bringing up initiative either.
I paused at the line “he did the worst thing possible.” While I am saying to myself “Do not do it. Do not even think about doing it. Do not even think about NOT doing it!”
*Edit: Dammit. He did. And got his face taco’d.*
Yep, he did. sounds like a miracle he actually survived
@@willparry530
I’m shocked that he did. With all that damage, he should have taken system shock or something from that attack. Had to have been a miracle.
@@Arcticmaster1190 Well, Barbarians ARE tanks for a reason--insane HP pools but not as high an AP as, say, a fighter, paladin, or cleric. So they need to have high HP because they are expected to always be tanking damage.
We also really don't know how high a level the party was at the time, either, but given the rogue was able to evade damage entirely, I'm guessing fairly high.
So perhaps an extremely high HP pool was a factor there.
This is what you do for troublemaker behavior as a DM: Give them the real consequences they'd face.
what is that sponsor all things dnd had a while ago? it was a website that helped making vivid descriptions about various topics to help with dm'ing or writing. I am looking for it but i cant find it
I love how the girl *immediately* played the misogyny card •> you're out.*
-Horny player: wtf this is misogyny 😠
Just for the record: i don't mind NSFW stuff in DnD, but it's an obvious rule of thumb that you should keep that stuff in NSFW campaigns, and make sure everyone is cool with that kinda stuff before even running session 0 :/
So assuming this was in D&D 5th Edition, and each grenade was equal to a base 3rd level fireball spell. That's 8d6 (average of 28 damage) times 12. Those PCs, and everyone within range really, were lucky he decided to just do "50 damage".
Based on the above information, these are what the totals would have been for min, max, and average damage on those 12 grenades:
Minimum total would be 96
Average total would be 336
Maximum total would be 576
At least it seems like the Tiefling learned his lesson.
given what another player came to the video to say...I doubt it.
I also have custom firearms rules. Mine are exploding damage dice: if the damage die rolls maximum, you reroll and add to what you just rolled. Yes this makes guns overpowered, but they should be. Also, guns in D&D are expensive, so it balances out.
@@bennysum8252 Yes they can.
@@bennysum8252 Okay. you have fun with that.
I think the “THAT GUY” and the “THAT GIRL” should play at a table together with a psychologist & a psychiatrist behind a one way mirror. I really want to see how these polar extremes would react to each other.
Not sure how you can dodge explosions like that, but otherwise a funny story.
I want in to that pirate campaign!
Agreed, those types needs to be YEETED out of the group.
Feel like the first story wasn't that bad. Nothing was mentioned that the player inside or outside of the game was toxic, or pissing off the other players and DM. As long as everyone is cool with the character you have, and that player doesn't mind any comeuppance that can come of it, I don't think its a problem to be a morally or ethically compromised character.
Misogyny itself is toxic. And he shoehorned his way into someone else's backstory scene, after being completely uninterested in RP for the rest of the game. Then he started a completely unnecessary and unwanted fight. This dude was 100% asshole.
Frankly, instead of the fight, it might've been better to just instakill the character and let that serve as a "get your shit together" moment.
@@adamhunter1223 I would have had that point blank shot insta-kill him tbh or if not that, then knocking him out, making him do death saves
@@adamhunter1223 Right those are good points, he wasn't being part of the game unless it suited him. But in movies and television there are plenty of morally or ethically compromised characters that we watch and root for. I will say a straight up misogynists would be pushing things. But I think there is a way to make things like this work, if the player toned it down, did not do stupid things, and learned lessons that changed him. But, I can get why that is a non starter and that's why I said if everyone is cool with it, it's not necessarily a bad thing.
@@adamhunter1223 Explain that. If a woman flirts with a lot of guys she is "empowered", "flirty", "strong", "courageous" and "sex positive, not to be slut-shamed"
But a guy over confident in his prowess is toxic? You ever think you might be projecting a bit much in these responses?
All for actions having consequences, all for NPC's not liking a given PC or his attitude and retaliating, but in a completely open world game don't you think it's a bit odd to try to apply a specific non-universal set of morals or values?
I mean other than universal Kantian idealism i.e. "The Golden Rule / Do onto others" seems a bit myopic IMHO
@@buckshott00 Its becoming more acceptable for women to be more forward romantically and sexually, but that's a reaction to centuries of extreme sexism. And this isn't a case of this dude just being overconfident. Its that the guy here shoehorned his way into someone else's backstory scene, acted like a paternalistic dick, and picked a fight the players whose story arcs this scene was a part of had been trying to avoid. He was spotlight hogging in addition to being a prick.
Poor bunder funder (pervy grenade guy) (yes thats what we call him at our table) getting picked on!
That's about as bad as the mermaid.person that her idea of seduction and rp was spreading her fishy smelling .. yeah. Was the fastest we kicked someone from the group.
I don't want to edit my previous post since there are replies to it. Wanting to go whoring is NOT misogyny. It's quite the opposite. The person who originally wrote that story really needs to open a dictionary once in a while.
I don't know, I've played with a few bad ones myself.
My DM has become a great friend. Everytime he starts a new campaign he will say it will contained sexual langues, assault, etc and that if any of the group are uncomfortable about this let him know either now or in private after the session or via chat. He doesn't want a reason why etc just so he knows what to avoid. He doesn't mind us gobbling off language, visiting brothels etc but if someone asks for things not to be included that we respect it.
He did draw the line with my friends rulebook on sex though. Despite it been funny 😄
Whys it gotta be a team? I think the core concept is to tell a story and have fun together
That doesent mean you camt have a game with a division between players. In fact the right game can and will be played 3 times a week . slme players lne day some another, then all together. Becausd on certain games its how we mimic privacy without just passing notes
Not defending these players though. Just the comment the narrator made at the start of the video
it's fine if they aren't a team--as long as it's agreed there might be inter-player conflict beforehand. In the middle of the campaign is not the place to decide that suddenly you want to put everyone else at risk.
"Everybody rolled for Initiative."
Why??? I would just deny knowing the guy.
same, would be better continuing on as they planned
@@darklusare7582 Denying might not have been possible, perhaps they had been seen together before. That or they didn't believe in throwing an ally under the bus.
Rolling for initiative is to order the combat rounds. Doesn't mean the players not instigating conflict had to participate on their round. And at least one of them opted to try and de-escalate. Seems fine. You deny when its your. They didn't get attacked. Neutral agents in the combat.
@@zotaninoron3548 an excellent point
Now that first story runs me the wrong way. I mean a misogynist when he's doing is flirting and going to the brothel.
May we have examples better than we would all call 'cliche bard's? Did he tell someone to get in the kitchen or say someone can't do something because she was born with two X chromosomes? No, then I really dont see him as misogynistic. Horny yes.
The gun rules are where I take biggest issue. What is that because it sounds like theres no reason they shouldn't run up and shot everyone. Theres no downside to the issue.
I'm not gonna gonna talk about the attempted flirt, point blank shot, or grenades because he's quite literally a cocky idiot in character and the pirate makes sense to me, just the attitude the DM had about combat starting erks me. Like yeah he got shot in the face, combat gonna start, also 12 grenades without a scratch.
Absolute bs.
Bonny Anne the Pirate Queen is one 9f my favorite NPCs
So getting shot in the face = No Nades. Bullshit
Not when you account for the fact he ignored a CLEAR warning first. She didn't just pull and shoot.
@@willparry530 hitting on someone becomes a death penalty...right, The women should have a bunch of heavies to just beat him and throw him out. Much better RP. 'well that escalated quickly' meme needs throw into that story.
@@Spacko So she shouldn't have gone through with the threat in her warning? IS that what you're saying? She didn't get to be queen of pirates by being soft and not making good on her threats. What she did was completely within the bounds of realism for the setting.
Also he didn't die in case you weren't paying attention. Even the extra damage from the homebrew 'point blank' rule and getting self-inflicted damage from his own grenades didn't kill him. The OP specifically said he was just in jail for the rest of their stay on the island.
And legally, insisting on hitting on someone after they made it clear it's not welcome is sexual assault. And that's in a more civilized setting than an island *populated by pirates.*
but if already been said but prepare for trouble and make it double
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why is the first guy in the story called a misogynists for going to a brothel in game yet the woman isn't called a misandrist for all the sexual stuff she did?
Because that's a fancy 10$ word that most people don't know
Misandrist means strongly prejudiced against men, this sounds like sexual assault to anyone and everyone, the first story probably was a misogynist due to the op saying he looked down on the pirate queen, just different definition technicalities
@@ramnsesallen4375 Misogynist: a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women
Misandrist: a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against men.
According to google dictionary.
tbh it doesn't sound like the second player was a misandrist to me so much as just...disturbing. She said everyone the character meets, not just men.
@@willparry530 she sexually assualted the bar tender right off the bat by grabbing his junk.
Seems the old saying holds true. "When a man does something bad everyone becomes a prosecutor but when a woman does something bad everyone becomes a defense attorney."
I’m in a game like the second one where a player keeps making / posting sexual stuff about their and other characters out of game. It’s exhausting 🙄
Oi. Remind me not to go to that DM's table. There's nothing wrong with such a character. In fact, one of the best characters at my table was someone who played a half-orc Sorcerer who was a casual racist. He saw all other races as inferior to Orcs, yet was also a total cultural snob, looking down on half the party. But he pulled through.
This DM better not read Dragonlance, cause he would hate Caramon Majere.
honestly? both D&D and Pathfinder (as well as other tabletop rpgs) should add an "EXPLOSION" descriptor to explosion type spells, (to prevent full damage negation) dodging some of the damage because of rp-ing falling behind cover, flipping a table, or whatever, is nice, but negating all damage from an explosion is...... well who am i to talk physics in tabletop xD.
Maybe something like "when a spell or item has the explosion descriptor, instead of negating or halving the damage on a successful reflex save, the character instead takes 2/4 damage, or 3/4 respectively", being in improved evasion's case either that or prevent criticals from classes and spells that can crit... whelp honestly im a sucker for homebrew.
2/4 damage IS half damage
One was he and other himself. 😂
I've played Lawful evil characters who where more cooperative than these two characters and heck my lawful evil assassin when my group was sent to the nine hells during the Decent into Avernus campaign he warned the group only once if you piss off a certain powerful begins or gods I will turn on you this your one and only warning but he still worked with the group
At least your character bothered to give a warning, not everyone does. Fortunately we can say the pirate queen here also gave a warning first.
Edgy atheists like that second problem player annoy me. We've got enough of a PR problem as it is with preachers telling their congregations that we're evil and just want to sin without people acting like that about things people hold dear.
While I agree that religious beliefs are mockery-worthy in a vacuum, I don't believe one should just do it anywhere and everywhere. There's such a thing as reading the room and tact. One of the perks of being an atheist is the understanding that this is the one life we get, and we've got to make it as good a life as we can. That includes getting along with people while we're here.
Well said. Not an atheist myself but I appreciate your call to be respectful even in disagreement :)
@@willparry530 A common mistake a lot of atheists seem to make is thinking that you have to be stupid to be religious. Looking at, like, all the contrary evidence makes it pretty clear that that's not the case, so a lack of respect is misplaced and, frankly, counterproductive. lol
Smart people can come to wrong conclusions, especially if they grew up being told this stuff from an early age, and smart people are very good at defending those wrong conclusions. S'why I don't think atheists have the right to be arrogant; just because we're pretty sure we're correct doesn't mean people who haven't come to this conclusion are dumb, and it doesn't mean we can't be wrong or dumb either.
@@SamWeltzin Well said. You'll find smart people in all walks of life, and dumb people in all walks of life.
@@willparry530 Absolutely. And I think we all should have the humility to understand that we can all be both smart in some ways and dumb in others.
@@SamWeltzin oh yeah, for sure. Blind spots are an inevitable part of being human.
Posturing as a lawful good paladin doesn't make you a good person. You aren't morally superior. Player has the right to play their character the way they like, this includes doing stupid, sexually promiscuous, or outright evil things, unless you explicitly said no evil characters. You have the right to not play with one who annoys you. But, you aren't morally superior.
yeah....not really feeling the first one there. sounds like pet NPC overreacting like a son of a bitch to a player. Was he a sleeze? sure, a dick? maybe but FLIRTING does not give someone the right to shoot you in the face...and having a firearm deal double damage at point blank range but having TWELVE explosive black powder bombs rip the side of a building off and not even worry the person standing in said blast zone? yeah....just doesnt jive.
"reasonable reaction to someone not liking being talked down to" ....lord if it was only OK to shoot people in the chest when they talked down to you, then get upset if they tried to kill you right back!
Yesterday when I tryed to watch this,its said it was a private😐😑😶BUT NOW I MAY SEE IT,YEEEEEEEEEEE
yeeeee!
@@willparry530 yes,we shall YEEEEEEE till we can't YEEEEEE no more
It can't be THAAT bad can it?
Having watched this channel for a while, these two are far from the worst. I mean playing a crappy person in-character like that first one is essentially roleplaying a chaotic neutral or chaotic evil character isn't it? As for the latter one, men like her are a dime a dozen.
@@R3GARnator Indeed, but I feel all players who feel like it's ok to act like that should be kicked, regardless of gender.
Dude that’s NOT being overly-sensitive. A character whose main/only descriptor is sexually assaulting whomever they meet? Hell to the no.
What was this chick thinking?!?
What happened to this video yesterday it was privite once i got the notification
Yeah guys getting sexually harassed by women is a thing, would know it from personal experience and heard that guys in my town would quit working at DQ cause they were harassed by the ladies working there. For me the harassment is being treated like a walking sex toy and not as a person
If we'd call women out when they start talking about "slut shaming" we wouldn't be having this problem. I guarantee that girl was a liberal. What, this has nothing to do with politics? Today's left doesn't teach women to hypersexualize themselves by claiming that sleeping around is "empowerment"? And we wonder why women view sex as so disposable and meaningless?
One day a DM will literally be murdered by a player, then won't this video title look silly, lol
dafuq is wrong with you
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 I live in America.
@@dannya.2616 Ok, that's fair.
Damm these Americans just love use "misogynist" out of the proper context
Well we use a lot of words inappropriately. With the current hypersensitivity people use any negative word for any reason. People use it just to shutdown others like a child having a tantrum. Racist, fascist, nazi, and homophobe are other buzz words. All you have to do is disagree with someone and one of these words are thrown at you. I've heard several blacks called white racist towards other blacks.
Inconceivable!!
As an anti-theist, I agree that she deserved to be kicked. Gamer etiquette requires some compromise on what behaviors are appropriate at the gaming table. After being given a second chance, she continued her bad behavior. As drogo would say, “she deserves a crown of gold”