Most people who slag Birmingham off have never been there. The people of Birmingham have been knocked down so many times but we just get back up and carry on. Unlike certain other cities we don't squeal and blame others. Birmingham led the Industrial Revolution not just in this country but the World. It had and probably still has the most skilled people in this country.
I've always wanted to move there and I felt that this might even be a better choice rather than London. Green areas, prospective Uni, solid PT, I would have probably stayed there for a while despite the obvious problems UK cities have.
I'm from Bristol, but lived and worked in Bradford for four years in the early seventies. I never had any problems there and liked both the town and its people. If I had to choose between London and Bradford, I'd opt for Bradford every time. The surrounding Pennine countryside is magnificent.
I was glad to leave Birmingham in 2016. When I moved there with my family back in 1989, it was lovely. There was plenty of green space, people were friendly, people had respect for historical buildings, etc. But by the time I left, many of the listed buildings had been unlisted & demolished, green space was reducing, people weren't friendly anymore, & "progress" now means a lack of respect for history. I have no desire to go back. Despite London creating difficulty for getting around due to my disabilities & there being so many people in London, I'd much rather go to London than go back to Birmingham.
Not all of it’s near Kent and not all of it it’s a dump either. I think that some people dislike our mayor (I don’t think much of him either) and they assume that London is twinned with Islamabad. London and the southeast generate a lot of income and a fair chunk of that is redistributed to other regions of the U.K.
@@alanwilton6806 .....I was having a good old winge to be fair .. Dont have an issue with the diversity and inclusion aspects of London , quite aware that if you live in Golders Green or Islington thats not Kent at all , I actually like some parks in London ...just get a tad fed up with the " if its not happening in London its not happening " --- perhaps if we moved the House of Commons to Leicester for instance any MP that survived the change of air or wasnt eaten by a stray bear might realise you dont fall off the earth just north of Watfotd ........ #ypicalnorthernermoaning
I am a born and bred Brummie, and left 20yrs ago, and I have no intentions of returning. the place as become more like a middle east country than the great city that I grew up in, At least you could walk the streets without being robbed when I was there. That changed when it was invaded by migrants from the Middle east, Asia. and the WI.
I couldn't agree more.im from Smethwick. Left in 1968 and moved ton new Zealand.and copped no end of grief because of my accent. But I had many fond memories of smethwick.plenty of work my dad worked at the huge Birmid complex on dartmore road.my nan and grandad lived opposite the district iron and steel works on brasshouse lane just down the road from the Hawthorns.home ground and hallowed turf of the great Baggies. So yes I get more than a tad pissed off when people start slagging off Birmingham. It's a bloody fantastic place. I came back in 2007 lots of changes and it was good to see snowhill station back.
Birmingham used to be such a good, but not great before. But now massive changes has happened and lots of people are moving in to Birmingham. So I don't know what you are saying but, not many people are moving out.
Bradford? Wow, I wonder why? There’s something about Bradford…..Now what is it? , Rochdale, Rotherham , Oxford, Newcastle, Oldham. There’s a common denominator, nope, bugger if I can remember it.
When the Bradford comment started about its restaurants, I expected him to mention the Pakistani influence in population and cuisine (there are excellent Pakistani restaurants in Bradford)... not that the city would be painted as home of sloppy chippies...
Hull is divided by the River Hull, east and west banks. East Hull is grim but West Hull is lovely, Willerby, Kirk Ella, Swanland. Entering Hull via the magnificent Humber Bridge is really very nice - wide tree lined roads. The centre of Hull needs a rebuild.
I worked in Bradford for 20 years, retired 7 years ago. The 5 mile commute took 45 minutes by car due to poor road networks and expensive public transport. It’s not a place you ever feel safe, more than one person in the office was mugged at lunchtime and thefts from cars in our car park was a weekly event. In the 7 years since I stopped working there, I have been in twice - not by choice. It absolutely deserves the tag of worst city, bereft of any redeeming features.
i can remember growing up in the 90s stoke was a pretty decent vibrant place especially during the rave scene days and Hanley was always a decent night out on weekends although was always a bit rough now its just completely dead, nothing going for it what so ever and getting worse
@@gazriley624 Exactly, it’s ridiculous. Liverpool is a great city with brilliant hardworking people. Liverpool and Brum are always the 2 major cities in the country everyone decides to hate. I think the accents don’t help us😂
@@georgewba6245 could be that a little bit but i think it's mostly the Media's image of both cities is usually negative and outdated which doesn't help
@@MiningForPies what’s so shit about it. I’ll agree the citys not perfect or even on the level of Manchester. But it’s not shit at all. The city centre has completely had a revamp the last 30 years. The location of it is brilliant too. Every city has horrible places but it’s really not shit
Birmingham always gets mocked, it's like a sponge that's been soaking up so much hatred, no biggi, it's Britain's 2nd biggest City & does never act or boast that its Britain's 2nd best, it never mocks other cities, some residents there have done but in retaliation. I say this for you Birmingham, your time is arriving, we have seen what they can do & have witnessed their greedy selfish act like they know it all experiences & I tell you this Birmingham, you have nothing to fear, your the heart of this country so if you stooped low then this nation would collapse & you would never be this way, be proud, be bold Birmingham, you Brummies are the salt of the Earth 🌎
I went to uni in Birmingham and I enjoyed it but when I came back a few years later after, it became just more office spaces and alot of trendy places were closing along with skyrocketing crime spreading in the city center which was outside of it
Birmingham as any other City in the UK has experienced much change, some good some bad, just a natural progression through the different cycles, I dont know what year your talking about but you imagine the 80s onwards & Birmingham had massive employers like IMI in Witton, Leyland in Longbridge, Cadburys in Bournville, Horizon travel HQ on the Broad St, Lucas plants & factories throughout the City, Dunlop tyres in Erdington, LDV vans in Washwood Heath, Metro Cammel train makers in Washwood Heath, Ansells brewery in Aston HP sauce in Aston, the Birmingham mint in Hockley where Britain's money was made, GKN osram again across the city, Severn Trent water in Sheldon, there are countless other companies that 1 by 1 dwindled away, + the brain drain down to the smoke, they didn't even leave those of us with a sweet tooth as finally Cadburys went to an American company for something like 13 billion quid, oh & where was Cadburys mentioned during the games 🤔,they said production of chocolates would remain in Birmingham but more lies, you see when the bull came out it was Birmingham saying to the World its reinvented itself & does not support or is in any way a representative of the greedy bullish lying selfish regime that gradually siphoned of all that made it the City it was, thats why crime rocketed, if people are hungry or encouraged by a system that is greedy they will steal, of course there is no justification for crime but this means crime all over, there ain't no rule for 1 & 1 for another & if you visited Birmingham throughout the games you will have heard of very little crime whatsoever, the Police were as tourist enjoying the vibe of a City that reflects a direction the Country will head & things will get a whole lot better for all of us I assure you , we will never go back to that shackle & chains & greedy selfish ideology. I hope you understand & GOD bless you 💚
I'd love to know where you get your statistical information about Hull from. I've never heard so much tosh. The city has taken a slow road to recovery after its lifeblood industry was ripped away from it in the 1970s - but the one advantage of that is that the city centre no longer smells of fish! We have a highly regarded university and many graduates, from all over the country and beyond, choose to stay beyond their degrees. The city gets slandered through ignorance. We are not on the way to anywhere else; you're either coming to Hull or you're not; so those who have not been and have no reason to come, find it easier to slag the city off. I find it very odd that Hull and Birmingham are on this list whilst Manchester (which is a total armpit) is not.
I've never been to Hull but i've never wanted to leave a city more than Birmingham, it's so bleak and ugly. Whilst Manchester probably should've been on here, I don't really find it as bad. I remember going once to a concert in the Cricket Ground and it was so empty, like no cars and barely any people, felt like a scene in 28 Days Later. If you find it odd that Birmingham is on this list, then god may have peace upon your soul.
Hull is a city with potential, if the city centre has more put into it in terms of repairing old buildings (which is currently underway), attracting businesses and providing more job opportunities the City would grow rapidly. East Park is beautiful as is the Humber bridge country Park. The New theatre is fantastic, and the town hall is beautiful. I moved to the area a year ago, and it reminds me of what Newcastle was like in the early 2000s and look how much that has developed and changed.
Not entirely. Britain's cities were blitzed by the faceless planners of the 60s who had no love for historic bits of architecture, to make way for ring roads.
@Vaughanb Brean not a Brummie but a fan of Brum -most like an American city in the UK; vibrant, threatre, arts, museums ,universities, parks and more miles of canal than Venice .It's critics usually are people who have never visited it .And plenty if nice countryside around it and good access to national motorway and rail.network .-sorry to disappoint its critics but I love visiting the place .
Pls I plan on replicating to Birmingham from Bournemouth , I need advice if it is a good move ? As bounemouth is so expensive now and has little to nothing to do regarding night life and areas of attraction
how old are you? any big city would be better for a young person! Bournemouth is where people retire to if your young you need somewhere with good nightlife - London, Birmingham, Liverpool or Leeds
I moved the other way when I was 46 ( 12 years ago ) as much as I love my hometown I now prefer Bournemouth, I just love the chilled vibe and living by the beach and have no problem finding things to do. But enjoy Brum if night life is what you're after you won't find anywhere better.
I have worked all over the country for the last 22 years , Bradford is the biggest Dump I have ever worked in and TBh I think a lot of people know WHY ??? 😡
I visit Bradford regularly, the comment about drugs and the smell of weed in the centre is spot on. The city centre is an absolute tip and l see they are going to make improvements by demolishing a large part of it again!
Stoke isn't that bad, it's not brilliant. Completely agree about the local station though 😂 it's truly terrible. However, the way Alsager has been pronounced is completely wrong, it's All-sage-er or locally Ul-sage-er
I'm a born and bred Stokie, writing this as I'm sat in Stoke now. It's a shithole duck- you can't kid a kidder and you can't polish a shit. I love it, it's my home and it's my shithole.. We had a good history but that's all it is, history.
I only flicked on this because as a Brummie I wondered which spot we'd get. I didn't doubt for a moment that we'd be in there, we always are. Knocking Brum is just taking an ill informed cheap shot. Its a big city, no better and no worse than any other big city.
Bradford is definitely the worst city I've seen and I agree with the list but I think Coventry is worse than Birmingham and I lived in both of these cities. Also lived in Leicester which is pretty awful too
@@brothersman524 Bradford one best minds born there JB Priestley one best University aka the University of Bradford being the first to teach peace studys and The food Lesister although the worst city in East Midlands it king Richard the 3rd being buried and found there it was once the second riches city in Europe although the Hub of Far right idiots hopefully dropped in numbers Conventy although Conventy is not britannia best city's it is nots its worse it invented the bicycle probably the best form of Private transport although I say this I also know Conventy was one worst bombing of the War but Conventy recovered quite quickly with aid of the motor car but Conventy had build the city of the Furture for the past it's quite possible the people of Conventy would be very similar to people of Rotterdam in The Netherlands today this will be there Furture
I was working in atherstone in the midlands once upon a time. I had only been there a week or so and decided when my wife came we would stay somewhere a bit more happening. Stayed in Birmingham, my god it looked so uninviting when we drove thru the city centre to check it out. It looked like a wanna be gangsta street at every turn. We drove straight back out again and went for a nice quiet meal out of town. And as for Bradford, that’s the only place I’ve gone out at 10pm after drinks in saltaire - within 15 mins the whole group of us decided to jump in a taxi straight to Leeds as it was so backward and chaotic.
I am beginning to think that Learning Canteen is a front for the BNP. Most of the commentary, is focused on how these cities are affected by drugs, homelessness, fast food and other divisive matters
@Matt Kent There's also no smoke without fire and there places mentioned are dire. Coventry and Wolverhampton should be on this list let's be clear about that, and also Leicester which has more short changing stinky _______ than rats.
How dare you say this crap about the amazing Birmingham. I lived there for ten years and I had a wonderful time. I lived in south Birmingham in the wonderful Moseley. Packed with musicians, artists and great shopping.
I had a feeling that Bradford would be number 1. Hull doesn't deserve the bad press it gets - at least, not all of it. I'm surprised Wakefield isn't included, as I've never heard good reports about it; nor Milton Keynes; and from personal experience I have to say Carlisle is also pretty unexciting.
i have noticed it's never mentioned in a bad light anywhere people only seem to ever praise manchester i don't get it and people from there never stop going on about the place and how good it is...all that is false manchester is a dump and very violent
Same here mate. Bentilee, Cobridge, Hanley, Longton, Chell Heath, Meir, Burslem, Middleport.. The list goes on. It's easier to name the nice parts of Stoke
Matthew 10:14 King James Version 14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet
@@stephenharris7982it's a city that is allows the events of Rotherham & Rochester to be repeated on it's own doorstep, any city allowing this is beyond redemption
I keep expecting Middlesbrough on one of your lists. My grandparents lived there. I have an uncle who’s still there, but I haven’t visited since the early 80s.
I live in stoke on trent, the place where I live is extremely pleasant, a wonderful canal, lots of sprauling green areas, lots of fields. But its extremely cut off, the wedgewood factory train station though small was so damned important for our area but no longer is in use. The bus service is awful and ends at 5pm and only goes to 3 useful places. Then you step foot in stoke which has trains and busses but the exact opposite of beauty, its a shithole and it feels like you need to shower after going out into stoke for a while. So many stores shuttered, buildings crumbling....its...awful.
My only problem with Birmingham is the WW2 Bombsite Heritage Area slap next to Digbeth coach station, a wasteland of roofless old factories whose demolition is long overdue.
@Vaughanb Brean Good to hear, I'm a big fan of Birmingham as I said somewhere else around here haha ! Still wandering round Cannon Hill Park in my head looking for a quick way to walk to Moseley which didn't exist.
I do not live, or have ever lived in Bradford....but I can not believe you use the word 'tramps' , that really offensive, surely there is a more suitable word...maybe such as homeless (which you used in the same video to describe another city)
Where is Coventry in this list.coventry deserve a place, if Birmingham is the list coventry also should be its sn extension of it and these days coventry is worst
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Birmingham, (once a great city), like the majority of large British cities was systematically trashed from the 1960’s on and has never fully recovered. Most U.K. cities are full of cheap, ugly, built to the lowest budget, trashy modern buildings that make them so depressing. By far the nicest ate the smaller cities e.g. Oxford, Cambridge, Bath, Winchester etc. that have managed to remain more human without trashing their historic centres.
Sorry one can tell be his accent the commentary is done by a southerner hence his bias the true most hated cities in Britain by those not living there 5.... Stoke on Trent...it not really one city its 7 towns put together hence its not like a real city. 4 .... Brighton even the beach is large stones full of trendy hippies and drunk Londoners 3 .... Milton Keynes never go without good GPS, every road looks the same. Take a sick bag you'll get dizzy going round the roundabouts. It most famous feature = concrete cows.... enough said. 2 Manchester.... just try driving into Manchester or even going by train you'll hate the journey. The only city center that has large plot of land that have been temporary car parking for 40 years. 1 London overcrowded expensive dirty outside the tourist areas.
I don't agree with the remark about Birmingham. I lived in the heart of the city centre for over a year and I love it. Great transportation network, multi cultural diversity, reasonable cost of living, etc. I look forward to going back there.
i left Bradford in 71 for work & no other reason, the nightlife then was fantastic, the centre vibrant & the people friendly but due to the abject failure of national & local government the place has become a shithole
@@brothersman524 Not much tourism in Derby and very tiny main library which takes the piss and they call it a city,plus Derby Council gave our donated central library away to now it being a nothing building to many muslims in the city too.
Wolverhampton and Coventry worse Birmingham and should be blown of the map . At least Brum has spaghetti junction so assuming no traffic jams or road works at you can get out of there quick.
Liverpool as some amazing parks and the waterfront is great . It does have some run down parts like every mayor intercity. I live in Newcastle and that's the same 😁
Your video snippets of Birmingham are all at least seven years out of date. Crime in Brum is a lot lower than in all of the other U.K. large cities. I would also say that it has far fewer homeless people and aggressive beggars than either Liverpool or Manchester.
I'm from Liverpool and lived in Birmingham for over 20 years and commuted to work in Coventry every day. Coventry is a badly designed modern City with some but, little heritage due to WWII bombing and loses out to Birmingham it's close neighbour. Liverpool is infact one of the safest Cities in Europe from statistics showing safe and unsafe cities. It is below Manchester which is one of the highest crime rates. Also below London and Birmingham. If I'm not mistaken it is the 17th lowest crime rate in the UK...that's below most if not all Metripolitan Citues and other Cities in the UK. Birmingham is a vibrant City as is Liverpool. The days when Birmingham was strangled by the Bournville /Cadbury family preventing bars, pubs or clubs to expand are well and truly over. It has more miles of Cannals than Venice (but maybe not as beautiful) there are lots of greenery with many commons rather than Parks but it has parks too. If you are looking for heritage then Birmingham has less to offer but as a modern city it has plenty. Bradford I found to be depressing and dull. Decided not to go to the University there because of the City. Hull has plenty of heritage but it's bad reputation of crime, exenaphonia, homophobia and racisum is something to keep away from.
@@gazriley624 You seem to have misinterpreted my commen I moved to Birmingham 20 years ago but I checked the statistics on Liverpool crime about 3 or 4 years ago (so they are slightly out of date but not by 20 years since I moved to Birmingham). So there not as out of date as implied by your comment of 20 years. Those would have been taken into consideration when I checked the stats. Again I emphasis Liverpool has one of the lowest crime and serious crime rates in the UK.
Bradford needs investment and is a result of many decades of poor investment into the City, although this started to change after the 2001 riots and with the help of a Labour Government in charge, after the Conservatives came back to power in 2010 everything went downhill yet again. I will give you an example, in 2013, I would have been 11, there were three - four youth clubs on my estate of Buttershaw, back then crime committed by youths were declining. By 2016 there was only one youth club remaining and by the time that I am writing this in 2022 there is no longer a single youth club in the estate. I have witnessed the increased drug usage among youths and because the young population is bored, they are commiting crime and getting involved in organised crime like never before. The problem here isn't the people or the local government that keeps getting funding cut, it's the investment from the Government to services across the City, Bradford has the youngest City in the UK yet the investment by the Government into the City keeps getting cut. Now with the pressures of the Cost of Living Crisis things are getting worse. Instead of making a video about the most Hated Cities in the UK and placing an image of Bradford as the thumbnail, maybe you need to recognise the wrongs that are going on in Bradford at a Governmental level. Educate yourselves, you don't even need to go to Bradford to look at the problems which could be alleviated with the proper funding. Why don't you see for yourselves in the latest documentary by the BBC about the services within Bradford here... www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00184w4/bradford-on-duty-series-1-1-levelling-up a documentary that looks at the lives of those who are trying the fix the problems with Bradford with an ever decreasing budget. By saying Bradford is the most hated City in the UK, is saying that you just take things at face value and do not look at the underlying issues that are causing this in the seventh most populous and the youngest City in the UK.
Bradford cannot be fixed. Youngest city because of the high birth rate among the asian population and large influx of recent immigrants from everywhere in the world. Just let then get on with it and allow Ilkley and the other towns in the Bradford metropolitan area to form a new district.
@@davidreed9671 I live in Keighley and wholeheartedly agree. I'm absolutely sick of my hard earned money being ploughed in to the centre of Bradford whilst my home town is going the same way through the complete contempt Bradford Council have for us. They want to build an incinerator on the edge of town whilst putting a clean air zone in Bradford City Centre, the hypocrisy is staggering.
I agree with all these places being on your list except Bradford - a few people smoking weed doesn't make a place unsafe - that is just ignorant. But why is the list so short? We have so many diabolical messed up cities. Birmingham and Hull would be near the top of mine for their accents alone. Leeds has shocking back-to-back ghettoes, Middlesborough Portsmouth Northampton Luton and Sunderland are just dreary, Sheffield is bleak and rude, Manchester has the worst weather, Plymouth is like the Village of the Damned. Durham and Brighton are ruined by stuck up people and general meanness and of course London isn't even an English city - so doesn't count. Believe me I could go on.
Most people who slag Birmingham off have never been there. The people of Birmingham have been knocked down so many times but we just get back up and carry on. Unlike certain other cities we don't squeal and blame others. Birmingham led the Industrial Revolution not just in this country but the World. It had and probably still has the most skilled people in this country.
I've always wanted to move there and I felt that this might even be a better choice rather than London. Green areas, prospective Uni, solid PT, I would have probably stayed there for a while despite the obvious problems UK cities have.
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I'm from Bristol, but lived and worked in Bradford for four years in the early seventies. I never had any problems there and liked both the town and its people. If I had to choose between London and Bradford, I'd opt for Bradford every time. The surrounding Pennine countryside is magnificent.
I'd choose anywhere but London tbh. The Pennines and Peak District are indeed phenomenal.
Bradford is the only town in Britain where the locals are worse than the immigrants
Totally agree. Bradford has a lot going for it. I think it is often confused with some of its neighbours.
Never seen the point of these surveys or this channel. Three of the cities mentioned Birmingham Bradford and Hull are among my favourite cities!
Absolutely 💯% agree @Steve Bramhill.
I live in one of those hated cities
Once the heart of a country as gone London the rest fell like skittles. RIP England 🇬🇧
I was glad to leave Birmingham in 2016. When I moved there with my family back in 1989, it was lovely. There was plenty of green space, people were friendly, people had respect for historical buildings, etc. But by the time I left, many of the listed buildings had been unlisted & demolished, green space was reducing, people weren't friendly anymore, & "progress" now means a lack of respect for history. I have no desire to go back. Despite London creating difficulty for getting around due to my disabilities & there being so many people in London, I'd much rather go to London than go back to Birmingham.
Why isnt London top of the list ..... Its a dump near Kent
It is also near Surrey as well. Surrey is a nice county with many pleasant towns.
Not all of it’s near Kent and not all of it it’s a dump either. I think that some people dislike our mayor (I don’t think much of him either) and they assume that London is twinned with Islamabad. London and the southeast generate a lot of income and a fair chunk of that is redistributed to other regions of the U.K.
@@angusmeigh5141 agreed on both counts ,,,
@@alanwilton6806 .....I was having a good old winge to be fair .. Dont have an issue with the diversity and inclusion aspects of London , quite aware that if you live in Golders Green or Islington thats not Kent at all , I actually like some parks in London ...just get a tad fed up with the " if its not happening in London its not happening " --- perhaps if we moved the House of Commons to Leicester for instance any MP that survived the change of air or wasnt eaten by a stray bear might realise you dont fall off the earth just north of Watfotd ........ #ypicalnorthernermoaning
London is an absolute dive.
In Birmingham when you enter a corner shop one must possess greater mathematical arithmetic than both Carol Vorderman and Rachel Riley .
I am a born and bred Brummie, and left 20yrs ago, and I have no intentions of returning. the place as become more like a middle east country than the great city that I grew up in, At least you could walk the streets without being robbed when I was there. That changed when it was invaded by migrants from the Middle east, Asia. and the WI.
The beauties of multi culturasim that most care not too see...
You are right Birmingham is finished, like many others people are moving out and not coming back
I couldn't agree more.im from Smethwick. Left in 1968 and moved ton new Zealand.and copped no end of grief because of my accent. But I had many fond memories of smethwick.plenty of work my dad worked at the huge Birmid complex on dartmore road.my nan and grandad lived opposite the district iron and steel works on brasshouse lane just down the road from the Hawthorns.home ground and hallowed turf of the great Baggies.
So yes I get more than a tad pissed off when people start slagging off Birmingham. It's a bloody fantastic place. I came back in 2007 lots of changes and it was good to see snowhill station back.
Birmingham used to be such a good, but not great before. But now massive changes has happened and lots of people are moving in to Birmingham. So I don't know what you are saying but, not many people are moving out.
@Vaughanb Brean Birmingham was rubbish before but now many people are moving to Birmingham so...'Birmingham has not finished'
Hands off Birmingham mate.
It’s crappy town due to high numbers of immigrants.
You said it.
The only thing I have against Birmingham is the lack of places to sit in the city.
Bradford? Wow, I wonder why? There’s something about Bradford…..Now what is it? , Rochdale, Rotherham , Oxford, Newcastle, Oldham. There’s a common denominator, nope, bugger if I can remember it.
Nasty and slimy.
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yeah man, there is a common denominator in all the stinking shithole areas of my town too
im also struggling to put my finger on it 🤣
London isn't part of England now.
Sadly true.
not sure what you mean by that but your wrong! it's in fact the capital of England
When the Bradford comment started about its restaurants, I expected him to mention the Pakistani influence in population and cuisine (there are excellent Pakistani restaurants in Bradford)... not that the city would be painted as home of sloppy chippies...
Hull is divided by the River Hull, east and west banks. East Hull is grim but West Hull is lovely, Willerby, Kirk Ella, Swanland. Entering Hull via the magnificent Humber Bridge is really very nice - wide tree lined roads. The centre of Hull needs a rebuild.
I worked in Bradford for 20 years, retired 7 years ago. The 5 mile commute took 45 minutes by car due to poor road networks and expensive public transport. It’s not a place you ever feel safe, more than one person in the office was mugged at lunchtime and thefts from cars in our car park was a weekly event. In the 7 years since I stopped working there, I have been in twice - not by choice. It absolutely deserves the tag of worst city, bereft of any redeeming features.
i can remember growing up in the 90s stoke was a pretty decent vibrant place
especially during the rave scene days and Hanley was always a decent night out on weekends although was always a bit rough
now its just completely dead, nothing going for it what so ever and getting worse
Birmingham get’s hated by people who haven’t even been or because they get told to hate it
same here in Liverpool we get a lot of hate unfairly
@@gazriley624 Exactly, it’s ridiculous. Liverpool is a great city with brilliant hardworking people. Liverpool and Brum are always the 2 major cities in the country everyone decides to hate. I think the accents don’t help us😂
@@georgewba6245 could be that a little bit but i think it's mostly the Media's image of both cities is usually negative and outdated which doesn't help
I’ve been to Birmingham, it’s shit. I’ve been to Liverpool. It’s also shit.
@@MiningForPies what’s so shit about it. I’ll agree the citys not perfect or even on the level of Manchester. But it’s not shit at all. The city centre has completely had a revamp the last 30 years. The location of it is brilliant too. Every city has horrible places but it’s really not shit
Birmingham always gets mocked, it's like a sponge that's been soaking up so much hatred, no biggi, it's Britain's 2nd biggest City & does never act or boast that its Britain's 2nd best, it never mocks other cities, some residents there have done but in retaliation. I say this for you Birmingham, your time is arriving, we have seen what they can do & have witnessed their greedy selfish act like they know it all experiences & I tell you this Birmingham, you have nothing to fear, your the heart of this country so if you stooped low then this nation would collapse & you would never be this way, be proud, be bold Birmingham, you Brummies are the salt of the Earth 🌎
Agree Birmingham is a great city.
I went to uni in Birmingham and I enjoyed it but when I came back a few years later after, it became just more office spaces and alot of trendy places were closing along with skyrocketing crime spreading in the city center which was outside of it
Birmingham as any other City in the UK has experienced much change, some good some bad, just a natural progression through the different cycles, I dont know what year your talking about but you imagine the 80s onwards & Birmingham had massive employers like IMI in Witton, Leyland in Longbridge, Cadburys in Bournville, Horizon travel HQ on the Broad St, Lucas plants & factories throughout the City, Dunlop tyres in Erdington, LDV vans in Washwood Heath, Metro Cammel train makers in Washwood Heath, Ansells brewery in Aston HP sauce in Aston, the Birmingham mint in Hockley where Britain's money was made, GKN osram again across the city, Severn Trent water in Sheldon, there are countless other companies that 1 by 1 dwindled away, + the brain drain down to the smoke, they didn't even leave those of us with a sweet tooth as finally Cadburys went to an American company for something like 13 billion quid, oh & where was Cadburys mentioned during the games 🤔,they said production of chocolates would remain in Birmingham but more lies, you see when the bull came out it was Birmingham saying to the World its reinvented itself & does not support or is in any way a representative of the greedy bullish lying selfish regime that gradually siphoned of all that made it the City it was, thats why crime rocketed, if people are hungry or encouraged by a system that is greedy they will steal, of course there is no justification for crime but this means crime all over, there ain't no rule for 1 & 1 for another & if you visited Birmingham throughout the games you will have heard of very little crime whatsoever, the Police were as tourist enjoying the vibe of a City that reflects a direction the Country will head & things will get a whole lot better for all of us I assure you , we will never go back to that shackle & chains & greedy selfish ideology. I hope you understand & GOD bless you 💚
I'd love to know where you get your statistical information about Hull from. I've never heard so much tosh. The city has taken a slow road to recovery after its lifeblood industry was ripped away from it in the 1970s - but the one advantage of that is that the city centre no longer smells of fish! We have a highly regarded university and many graduates, from all over the country and beyond, choose to stay beyond their degrees. The city gets slandered through ignorance. We are not on the way to anywhere else; you're either coming to Hull or you're not; so those who have not been and have no reason to come, find it easier to slag the city off. I find it very odd that Hull and Birmingham are on this list whilst Manchester (which is a total armpit) is not.
Fully agree with this!
I've never been to Hull but i've never wanted to leave a city more than Birmingham, it's so bleak and ugly. Whilst Manchester probably should've been on here, I don't really find it as bad. I remember going once to a concert in the Cricket Ground and it was so empty, like no cars and barely any people, felt like a scene in 28 Days Later. If you find it odd that Birmingham is on this list, then god may have peace upon your soul.
Hull is a city with potential, if the city centre has more put into it in terms of repairing old buildings (which is currently underway), attracting businesses and providing more job opportunities the City would grow rapidly. East Park is beautiful as is the Humber bridge country Park. The New theatre is fantastic, and the town hall is beautiful. I moved to the area a year ago, and it reminds me of what Newcastle was like in the early 2000s and look how much that has developed and changed.
Watch mr.bean movie, the city seems out side europe like in Uzbekistan .
Birmingham? I don’t think it Is
Not entirely. Britain's cities were blitzed by the faceless planners of the 60s who had no love for historic bits of architecture, to make way for ring roads.
Allah loves Birmingham.
@Vaughanb Brean not a Brummie but a fan of Brum -most like an American city in the UK; vibrant, threatre, arts, museums ,universities, parks and more miles of canal than Venice .It's critics usually are people who have never visited it .And plenty if nice countryside around it and good access to national motorway and rail.network .-sorry to disappoint its critics but I love visiting the place .
Pls I plan on replicating to Birmingham from Bournemouth , I need advice if it is a good move ? As bounemouth is so expensive now and has little to nothing to do regarding night life and areas of attraction
how old are you? any big city would be better for a young person! Bournemouth is where people retire to if your young you need somewhere with good nightlife - London, Birmingham, Liverpool or Leeds
U are so correct , I am 32 by the way
@@quincyileh3250 i'm 59 and regret not moving around more when i was younger so that's my advice to you
I moved the other way when I was 46 ( 12 years ago ) as much as I love my hometown I now prefer Bournemouth, I just love the chilled vibe and living by the beach and have no problem finding things to do.
But enjoy Brum if night life is what you're after you won't find anywhere better.
2:28 im not surprised. Its practically a slum. do not visit. Mark my words. I live there.
Most English cities look like islamabad
I still don't think any of these could even come close to as nasty as Detroit in the U.S.
I live in Stoke on Trent and I love it there ❤ and it's my home
What about Oldham, Bolton and Rochdale?
they are towns not cities
I love Birmingham……its great…
I have worked all over the country for the last 22 years , Bradford is the biggest Dump I have ever worked in and TBh I think a lot of people know WHY ??? 😡
I visit Bradford regularly, the comment about drugs and the smell of weed in the centre is spot on. The city centre is an absolute tip and l see they are going to make improvements by demolishing a large part of it again!
if putin decides to send a few rockets over im hoping bradford is on the receiving end of at least one 🤣
Bradford the pits
They talk funny in Birmingham like they're stoned
Try a look at sheffield
Sheffield’s great - shouldn’t be near this list.
agreed it's a dump and insignificant doesn't even deserve a mention in a good or bad light nobody cares about sheffield either way
Or Liverpool for that matter
Stoke isn't that bad, it's not brilliant. Completely agree about the local station though 😂 it's truly terrible. However, the way Alsager has been pronounced is completely wrong, it's All-sage-er or locally Ul-sage-er
Yeh it’s alright tbf just a bit of a 💩hole
I'm a born and bred Stokie, writing this as I'm sat in Stoke now. It's a shithole duck- you can't kid a kidder and you can't polish a shit.
I love it, it's my home and it's my shithole.. We had a good history but that's all it is, history.
I only flicked on this because as a Brummie I wondered which spot we'd get. I didn't doubt for a moment that we'd be in there, we always are. Knocking Brum is just taking an ill informed cheap shot.
Its a big city, no better and no worse than any other big city.
It's actually a shithole with added Islam and a bankrupt woke council
Yes. Agree. I am from Stoke. Can't say that it's terrible, but I don't like it
Bradford is definitely the worst city I've seen and I agree with the list but I think Coventry is worse than Birmingham and I lived in both of these cities. Also lived in Leicester which is pretty awful too
Allah loves all of these cities.
@@LabRat6619 Schhhh, we know, but mustn’t say!
Bradford Lesister Conventy
@@sglenny001 All terrible cities
@@brothersman524 Bradford one best minds born there JB Priestley one best University aka the University of Bradford being the first to teach peace studys and The food
Lesister although the worst city in East Midlands it king Richard the 3rd being buried and found there it was once the second riches city in Europe although the Hub of Far right idiots hopefully dropped in numbers
Conventy although Conventy is not britannia best city's it is nots its worse it invented the bicycle probably the best form of Private transport although I say this I also know Conventy was one worst bombing of the War but Conventy recovered quite quickly with aid of the motor car but Conventy had build the city of the Furture for the past it's quite possible the people of Conventy would be very similar to people of Rotterdam in The Netherlands today this will be there Furture
Hull however is a city despite it not having a cathedral Contrast to Guildford which has a cathedral despite it being a town
Having a cathedral is not a perquisite for city status.
@@MiningForPies the old requirement so as to be called a city was to have a cathedral
@@harriettt9857 No it wasn’t. I suggest you do a bit of research on the subject.
@@MiningForPies as demonstrated by Blackburn which also has a cathedral but is NOT a city.
@@harriettt9857 not true. It’s never been a requirement
I was working in atherstone in the midlands once upon a time.
I had only been there a week or so and decided when my wife came we would stay somewhere a bit more happening.
Stayed in Birmingham, my god it looked so uninviting when we drove thru the city centre to check it out.
It looked like a wanna be gangsta street at every turn.
We drove straight back out again and went for a nice quiet meal out of town.
And as for Bradford, that’s the only place I’ve gone out at 10pm after drinks in saltaire - within 15 mins the whole group of us decided to jump in a taxi straight to Leeds as it was so backward and chaotic.
I am beginning to think that Learning Canteen is a front for the BNP. Most of the commentary, is focused on how these cities are affected by drugs, homelessness, fast food and other divisive matters
@Matt Kent
There's also no smoke without fire and there places mentioned are dire. Coventry and Wolverhampton should be on this list let's be clear about that, and also Leicester which has more short changing stinky _______ than rats.
Hmm
So drugs and homelessness is diverse now not crimes amazing
How dare you say this crap about the amazing Birmingham. I lived there for ten years and I had a wonderful time. I lived in south Birmingham in the wonderful Moseley. Packed with musicians, artists and great shopping.
He's right with the money, minimum wage everywhere 😁
I grew up in Bradford and went to university in Hull. I wouldn't say I hated either city, though I must admit my favourite big city is Leeds.
I had a feeling that Bradford would be number 1. Hull doesn't deserve the bad press it gets - at least, not all of it. I'm surprised Wakefield isn't included, as I've never heard good reports about it; nor Milton Keynes; and from personal experience I have to say Carlisle is also pretty unexciting.
but the list is about Hated cities not boring cities Milton Keynes and Carlisle are pretty insignificant really and not worth a mention in any list
Wakefield is shit hole Centralè Milton Keynes Is Shit Hall South
I’ve lived in hull for 6 years it is not dangerous at all
Peterborough is a nice city! I live there 7 years. Great place! I love this city! London should be on this list. London its a crap!
London, Manchester, Bristol should be in there.
Imagine living in stoke it will make u kys
Lived in hull as university student - it is rather dull but it’s what you make of it
Manchester is a suitable why is that not on the list??
i have noticed it's never mentioned in a bad light anywhere people only seem to ever praise manchester i don't get it and people from there never stop going on about the place and how good it is...all that is false manchester is a dump and very violent
it should be! it's a dump
It’s a lovely place compared to Bradfordistan
Leeds is the worst and hated city in the UK.
Knew my old home town of SOT would make it!
Stokies represent! Bet you're glad to be out of here..
As a stokie, I was surprised it was not higher! Especially knowing Bentilee.
Same here mate. Bentilee, Cobridge, Hanley, Longton, Chell Heath, Meir, Burslem, Middleport.. The list goes on. It's easier to name the nice parts of Stoke
Why is
Luton?
I’ve lived in Stoke since 1990 it used to be good but now a days I’d rather live somewhere else
Very surprised that Slough wasn't on the list.
Because Slough is NOT a city.
Slough isn’t a city
Matthew 10:14
King James Version
14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet
Rotherham, Rochester, Bradford, Telford, Sheffield, Newcastle, and shortly Leeds
Newcastle is amazing 😂
@@stephenharris7982it's a city that is allows the events of Rotherham & Rochester to be repeated on it's own doorstep, any city allowing this is beyond redemption
2:31 ah yes. Home. It has its ups and downs. Charming in areas and utter crapholes in others.
This must be a micky take. Brum is a top spot.
Birmingham is the worst, a migrant 3rd world inside uk. Its a less English city nowadays.
No, Birmingham isn't even hated. Liverpool is 'SO' on the list.
@@chiomaemekwa9116 why are you knocking Liverpool? please explain! have you ever been? it sounds like you haven't
Can you hate a city.
Listen boys on a level Bradford is the worst
I keep expecting Middlesbrough on one of your lists. My grandparents lived there. I have an uncle who’s still there, but I haven’t visited since the early 80s.
I live in stoke on trent, the place where I live is extremely pleasant, a wonderful canal, lots of sprauling green areas, lots of fields. But its extremely cut off, the wedgewood factory train station though small was so damned important for our area but no longer is in use. The bus service is awful and ends at 5pm and only goes to 3 useful places. Then you step foot in stoke which has trains and busses but the exact opposite of beauty, its a shithole and it feels like you need to shower after going out into stoke for a while. So many stores shuttered, buildings crumbling....its...awful.
MTV needs to pimp my stoke
My only problem with Birmingham is the WW2 Bombsite Heritage Area slap next to Digbeth coach station, a wasteland of roofless old factories whose demolition is long overdue.
Digbeth Bus Station in the 70's was my acme for awfulness.
@Vaughanb Brean Good to hear, I'm a big fan of Birmingham as I said somewhere else around here haha ! Still wandering round Cannon Hill Park in my head looking for a quick way to walk to Moseley which didn't exist.
True and accurate.
Ha makes me laugh, I live in Bradford, it really isn't THAT bad at all, certainly not the top spot in the country
I'm a stokie and proud
*seeing Stoke on Trent
*Lives in Stoke on Trent
Me: WTF WHYYY IDC WhAT U SAY ABOUT MY HOME I Love Stoke and if you don't I'm insubing and dislikeing
Liverpool is the most loved
I graduated from University of Bradford, and am sad to hear about the ranking！
I do not live, or have ever lived in Bradford....but I can not believe you use the word 'tramps' , that really offensive, surely there is a more suitable word...maybe such as homeless (which you used in the same video to describe another city)
Where is Coventry in this list.coventry deserve a place, if Birmingham is the list coventry also should be its sn extension of it and these days coventry is worst
I agree, Coventry is worse than Birmingham - lived in both of these cities too
Birmingham is a dump. I know, I live there.
I was surprised to see stoke on trent here!
I wasn't mate.. Do you live here? Have you been to Hanley? Look up 'monkey dust' it's a Stoke-on-Trent exclusive
@@ethanwashington60 I live there, and its good..
@@stockjjk I live here too. Just curious mate but what do you find good about it?
@@ethanwashington60 Its not good, but its not bad is what I mean.
Love Birmingham! Awesome city!!!
Bollocks
@@swaldron5558 Don't want to know what's between your ears.
i can endorse you kingston on hill , you are right. Mr. Bean movie will tell you how the city is poor and not developed.
*HOW COULD YOU HATE BIRMINGHAM??????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT LITERALLY GAVE US THE KICKASS ALBUM SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Preston on the other hand...................................*
Preston? pretty insignificant and obscure not even worth hating
Any city is what you make of it.
Birmingham, (once a great city), like the majority of large British cities was systematically trashed from the 1960’s on and has never fully recovered. Most U.K. cities are full of cheap, ugly, built to the lowest budget, trashy modern buildings that make them so depressing. By far the nicest ate the smaller cities e.g. Oxford, Cambridge, Bath, Winchester etc. that have managed to remain more human without trashing their historic centres.
I quite like Hull
Sorry one can tell be his accent the commentary is done by a southerner hence his bias the true most hated cities in Britain by those not living there
5.... Stoke on Trent...it not really one city its 7 towns put together hence its not like a real city.
4 .... Brighton even the beach is large stones full of trendy hippies and drunk Londoners
3 .... Milton Keynes never go without good GPS, every road looks the same. Take a sick bag you'll get dizzy going round the roundabouts. It most famous feature = concrete cows.... enough said.
2 Manchester.... just try driving into Manchester or even going by train you'll hate the journey. The only city center that has large plot of land that have been temporary car parking for 40 years.
1 London overcrowded expensive dirty outside the tourist areas.
Birmingham should be no1, lived he all my life now 90% a no go area for true Brummies
Does a British owl say Aberdeen is the worst city in the UK😂😂😂😂😂
I don't agree with the remark about Birmingham. I lived in the heart of the city centre for over a year and I love it. Great transportation network, multi cultural diversity, reasonable cost of living, etc. I look forward to going back there.
I live in stoke
Birmingham two soccer teams really what happened to Yankee accent?
i left Bradford in 71 for work & no other reason, the nightlife then was fantastic, the centre vibrant & the people friendly but due to the abject failure of national & local government the place has become a shithole
Derby
I have to agree, Derby is pretty bad
@@brothersman524 Not much tourism in Derby and very tiny main library which takes the piss and they call it a city,plus Derby Council gave our donated central library away to now it being a nothing building to many muslims in the city too.
@@robfisher3578 Hate to break it to you Rob but I'm a Muslim too. But yes Derby isn't great and I know it well because I'm from Nottingham
Wolverhampton and Coventry worse Birmingham and should be blown of the map . At least Brum has spaghetti junction so assuming no traffic jams or road works at you can get out of there quick.
Alsager is pronounced Alsajer
Why is Bradford hated I love it
Liverpool
Liverpool as some amazing parks and the waterfront is great . It does have some run down parts like every mayor intercity. I live in Newcastle and that's the same 😁
Bradford should be renamed to Bradstan.
Who are you to judge? Coming from someone who is from the USA must be perfect
I like live in Stoke on trent right know
Your video snippets of Birmingham are all at least seven years out of date. Crime in Brum is a lot lower than in all of the other U.K. large cities. I would also say that it has far fewer homeless people and aggressive beggars than either Liverpool or Manchester.
Wrong. Less crime rate and less homeless in Liverpool.
I'm from Liverpool and lived in Birmingham for over 20 years and commuted to work in Coventry every day. Coventry is a badly designed modern City with some but, little heritage due to WWII bombing and loses out to Birmingham it's close neighbour. Liverpool is infact one of the safest Cities in Europe from statistics showing safe and unsafe cities. It is below Manchester which is one of the highest crime rates. Also below London and Birmingham. If I'm not mistaken it is the 17th lowest crime rate in the UK...that's below most if not all Metripolitan Citues and other Cities in the UK. Birmingham is a vibrant City as is Liverpool. The days when Birmingham was strangled by the Bournville /Cadbury family preventing bars, pubs or clubs to expand are well and truly over. It has more miles of Cannals than Venice (but maybe not as beautiful) there are lots of greenery with many commons rather than Parks but it has parks too. If you are looking for heritage then Birmingham has less to offer but as a modern city it has plenty. Bradford I found to be depressing and dull. Decided not to go to the University there because of the City. Hull has plenty of heritage but it's bad reputation of crime, exenaphonia, homophobia and racisum is something to keep away from.
the crime rate has gone down in Liverpool over the last 20 years
@@gazriley624 You seem to have misinterpreted my commen I moved to Birmingham 20 years ago but I checked the statistics on Liverpool crime about 3 or 4 years ago (so they are slightly out of date but not by 20 years since I moved to Birmingham). So there not as out of date as implied by your comment of 20 years. Those would have been taken into consideration when I checked the stats. Again I emphasis Liverpool has one of the lowest crime and serious crime rates in the UK.
@@alandillon968 Agreed
The ufck was that racist intro about 3rd world countries and showing an African village?
Bradford needs investment and is a result of many decades of poor investment into the City, although this started to change after the 2001 riots and with the help of a Labour Government in charge, after the Conservatives came back to power in 2010 everything went downhill yet again. I will give you an example, in 2013, I would have been 11, there were three - four youth clubs on my estate of Buttershaw, back then crime committed by youths were declining. By 2016 there was only one youth club remaining and by the time that I am writing this in 2022 there is no longer a single youth club in the estate. I have witnessed the increased drug usage among youths and because the young population is bored, they are commiting crime and getting involved in organised crime like never before. The problem here isn't the people or the local government that keeps getting funding cut, it's the investment from the Government to services across the City, Bradford has the youngest City in the UK yet the investment by the Government into the City keeps getting cut. Now with the pressures of the Cost of Living Crisis things are getting worse. Instead of making a video about the most Hated Cities in the UK and placing an image of Bradford as the thumbnail, maybe you need to recognise the wrongs that are going on in Bradford at a Governmental level. Educate yourselves, you don't even need to go to Bradford to look at the problems which could be alleviated with the proper funding. Why don't you see for yourselves in the latest documentary by the BBC about the services within Bradford here... www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00184w4/bradford-on-duty-series-1-1-levelling-up a documentary that looks at the lives of those who are trying the fix the problems with Bradford with an ever decreasing budget. By saying Bradford is the most hated City in the UK, is saying that you just take things at face value and do not look at the underlying issues that are causing this in the seventh most populous and the youngest City in the UK.
Bradford cannot be fixed. Youngest city because of the high birth rate among the asian population and large influx of recent immigrants from everywhere in the world. Just let then get on with it and allow Ilkley and the other towns in the Bradford metropolitan area to form a new district.
@@davidreed9671 I live in Keighley and wholeheartedly agree. I'm absolutely sick of my hard earned money being ploughed in to the centre of Bradford whilst my home town is going the same way through the complete contempt Bradford Council have for us. They want to build an incinerator on the edge of town whilst putting a clean air zone in Bradford City Centre, the hypocrisy is staggering.
Birminghams finished, time to get out.
Rubbish. Everyone knows Liverpool is the most hated city in the UK by far
Liverpool is the most loved not hated
@@gazriley624 i love Liverpool!!!
@@joeydowney2865 most people do
Yeah right. Scallies central 😂😂😂😂
@@gazriley624 everyone does! Liverpool is the most loved
I agree with all these places being on your list except Bradford - a few people smoking weed doesn't make a place unsafe - that is just ignorant. But why is the list so short? We have so many diabolical messed up cities. Birmingham and Hull would be near the top of mine for their accents alone. Leeds has shocking back-to-back ghettoes, Middlesborough Portsmouth Northampton Luton and Sunderland are just dreary, Sheffield is bleak and rude, Manchester has the worst weather, Plymouth is like the Village of the Damned. Durham and Brighton are ruined by stuck up people and general meanness and of course London isn't even an English city - so doesn't count. Believe me I could go on.
What a load of rubbish.