Argon One M.2 Raspberry Pi 4 Case

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @piconano
    @piconano 3 года назад +275

    My first computer was an IBM PC I put together out of parts I was supposed to send back to IBM, working as an IBM field technician back in 1984.
    The motherboard alone cost $1500 to buy as a part, so I did component level repairs on things I needed, until I built a system. Something one can't do today.
    One look at today's motherboard, and one will faint at the thought of repairing it!
    Now, one can buy a RPi 4 for under $100 that is 400+ times faster (1600 times with 4 cores), and has 500,000+ times the RAM of an original IBM PC!
    How far and fast we have come! Amazing times.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  3 года назад +28

      :)

    • @waltercomunello121
      @waltercomunello121 3 года назад +14

      "one will faint at the thought of repairing it!"
      oh I agree so much. especially if there are no public schematics.

    • @ElmerFuddGun
      @ElmerFuddGun 3 года назад +25

      @@waltercomunello121 - Or if the manufacture refuses to sell OEM specific components trying to force you to just buy a new computer. _ie. _*_Apple_*

    • @frankenberry9670
      @frankenberry9670 3 года назад +17

      My first PC was an Apple II+ clone. A friend of mine had access to a wave solder machine so we bought the board and parts, got it soldered and went on from there. When I retired the machine it had a Rana 4 drive controller with a total of 512KB of possible floppy disk storage, if you notched the floppys and flipped some of them over by hand. At one point I nearly bought a hard disk for the thing for $2,000 because who would want more than an astounding 5 megabytes of high speed storage? You tell that to kids today and they just don't believe you ;-). The current machines are way more powerful, astoundingly fast, fantastically more convenient and no where near as bug eyed, "think what I can do with this thing" exciting. Yin meet Yang.

    • @Sharp931
      @Sharp931 3 года назад +2

      Then everything computer related (hw&sw) cost a fortune.

  • @butters_147
    @butters_147 3 года назад +27

    This is the perfect box to replace my 12 year old Linux box. I love the adaptor for the full size HDMI ports. The M.2 drive just puts the icing on the cake.
    Thanks as always Chris. You're a gentleman and I could listen to your videos all day.

  • @lawrenceallwright7041
    @lawrenceallwright7041 3 года назад +83

    1:25 "Oh, there's an instruction leaflet in here, that's always good to have."
    (Tosses it aside like a true pro.)

    • @g00gleminus96
      @g00gleminus96 3 года назад +8

      The oldest axiom in personal computers is: "If all else fails, read the manual."

    • @Texas1FlyBoy
      @Texas1FlyBoy 3 года назад

      @@g00gleminus96 RTFM - Read The Fine Manual (substitute favorite expletive for Fine, if desired). :)

  • @ElmerFuddGun
    @ElmerFuddGun 3 года назад +24

    The glittery silver grey paint finish reminds me of the early *_TRS-80_* computers!

    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 3 года назад

      Man I wanted one of those so bad but they were hard to come by in UK. Settled for Atari and never looked back. But TRS (and some Sharp clone?) Looked the business.

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise 3 года назад

      time to make a retro station?

    • @ElmerFuddGun
      @ElmerFuddGun 3 года назад

      @@stephenhookings1985 - I liked it and learned to program on one. BASIC and Assembler. TRS-80s were used well past their prime on TV shows. Remember the Seinfeld episode with the car rental company that didn't know how to hold a reservation?

    • @FritzPinguin
      @FritzPinguin 3 года назад +1

      My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I, Level II Basic, 4 kB of RAM. Those were the days, my friend ...

    • @billfusionenterprise
      @billfusionenterprise 3 года назад

      @@FritzPinguin mine was the c64

  • @AskaLangly
    @AskaLangly 3 года назад +6

    I got two. One for my Retropie build and one for my dedicated Minecraft server. Both got 250GB Samsung 860s. Love this kit. Thank you for showing it off for the rest of the world to see.

  • @darlakim5120
    @darlakim5120 3 года назад +2

    Excellent review as usual...I very much enjoy your series. Three additional thoughts:
    1. Running the RPi without the GPIO cover significantly improves cooling...that might be an interesting metric to add to your table.
    2. The Argon One's power port frees up the RPi's original USC-C port !!! Unbeknownst to many, this port is also capable of passing data as well as power delivery ( the Argon One's USB-C is only capable of power delivery).
    I modified my case to connect an Apple iPadPro OEM cable USB-C cable to this connector, and can directly power and connect to the RPi via SSH or XRDP from my iPadPro while on the road.
    I have full access to my programming environments (command-line, Python, Jupyter Hub, etc.) as well as RPi desktop accessible from the iPadPro ( I don't own / need a tradition laptop anymore ;-) ).
    3. Argon sells just the M.2 bottom-half of the case to upgrade the original Argone One for about $25 USD.
    -Thanks! -d

    • @SchoolforHackers
      @SchoolforHackers 3 года назад

      Thank you! Point 2 is especially big: I was disappointed to get down to just one usb 3 port.

  • @msthalamus2172
    @msthalamus2172 3 года назад +8

    You had me at "All the connectors are on the back"! Trying to arrange several Pis in anything other than a stack is normally a messy endeavor! :)

  • @eddiehughes2136
    @eddiehughes2136 2 года назад +2

    I bought several of these cases for a project after watching your review, Chris. I added a heatsink with thermal adhesive pad to the top of the case for each one, and it dropped the temperatures down a few degrees cooler than your test results. It doesn't look as nice, but it is performing very well on 8GB Raspberry Pi 4's with Ubuntu and with Raspberry Pi OS (32-bit, Buster).

  • @KryptoKiddi
    @KryptoKiddi 3 года назад +6

    I think the biggest selling point is the design! I love the look of it and the easy access/assembly!

    • @harrkev
      @harrkev 3 года назад

      Except that they block access to the sd slot. BIG mistake. If you need to reinstall the OS, it would be nice if you didn't need a screwdriver. I got around this with a USB 3 to micro-SD adapter, but that is clunky.

  • @NewAgeDIY
    @NewAgeDIY 3 года назад +15

    Thanks Chris, you made your case for this case! I love the design it’s a easy build for anyone. 👍🏼

  • @paullandry6573
    @paullandry6573 3 года назад +12

    Good to see Stanley the Knife again. And, as always another excellent video.

    • @loginregional
      @loginregional 3 года назад

      @@markpavlowski7223 Mackie Messer wound up making millions... Und der Haifisch! der hat Zahne...

    • @KameraShy
      @KameraShy 3 года назад

      @@markpavlowski7223 Mack is my knife, busy doing dastardly deeds.

    • @theguardian8317
      @theguardian8317 3 года назад

      I wonder if when Stanley was a baby he liked eating Gerber

  • @paladingeorge6098
    @paladingeorge6098 3 года назад +4

    I still love what you did for your "Ultimate raspberry Pi" video but this one is going to be my ultimate raspberry pi!

  • @sbc_tinkerer
    @sbc_tinkerer 3 года назад +13

    Full size HDMI… SOLD!!!
    Also love how you always add screws diagonally for torsion control.

    • @StephanLeclercq
      @StephanLeclercq 3 года назад +1

      Unless you already BOUGHT mini-hdmi cables :-)

    • @johnm2012
      @johnm2012 3 года назад +2

      @@StephanLeclercq micro

    • @scality4309
      @scality4309 3 года назад +2

      Did you ever change a tire?

    • @sbc_tinkerer
      @sbc_tinkerer 3 года назад +2

      @@scality4309 Never. but I have changed the whole wheel.

  • @rickieodem488
    @rickieodem488 3 года назад +2

    I built one of these using Pi4 4GB, WD 250GB SSD, and put in a 256GB MicroSD because I had a spare. Bought the $10 remote control too. The best things about the case are that all the connectors go in the back, full-size HDMI, and neatness of the overall case. It sits in my office as a media hub and DVR, using a $12 cheapo HDMI/USB video capture dongle that actually gives great performance for my purposes.

    • @cyberhard
      @cyberhard 2 года назад

      Can the remote power the rpi on?

  • @Flymochairman1
    @Flymochairman1 3 года назад +1

    I am a railway muddler. It's way past time I got a Pi or two. Great video as ever; concise, to the point and clear. Cheers Chris! Keep Well, sir.

  • @Tuulos
    @Tuulos 3 года назад +5

    Argon actually sells a conversion kit separately so if you have the older Argon One case you can simply convert it to M.2 case using it.

    • @njbair
      @njbair 3 года назад

      I recently bought this kit for my v1 case. It worked just fine but I still don't have those nice full-size HDMI ports. I'm using it for my headless proxy server and I bought a v2 with full-size ports to use for retropie.

    • @ernestgalvan9037
      @ernestgalvan9037 3 года назад

      @@njbair .. yes, nice kit to let you update a V1 to SATA, but as you say, missing full-size HDMI, and the IR receiver and Fan Jumper.
      I purchased it to upgrade one of my V1 cases to give to my sister.. a wireless Logitech mouse/keyboard, a 32” 1080HD TV that a friend gave her, and she’s happy with it… simple web-surfing, email and light typing…perfect.

  • @VideosfromNH
    @VideosfromNH 3 года назад +3

    I think this is the first time I bought something just before your video came out on the same item. I'm very surprised at the bad reviews left in the comments. My impressions are down below.
    I bought the Pi4 and Argon case to run JMRI on my model railroad.
    I bought the Argon One M.2 for the SSD and full size HDMI interfaces. I set up the Pi with SD card and SSD connected. Booted from SD card, did all upgrades, then used SD card copier. Took out the SD card and booted from SSD. Works great on two monitors.
    WiFi: I use the Pi in the basement, the router is on the first floor. Looks to be working properly. Occasionally, when browsing the web, the Pi looks to take a bit of time but I don't know if it's the WiFi signal, or the speed of the Pi.
    Temperature: I used the thermal pads. I set up the scripts to run the fan at default 50, 55, 60 degrees C at 10, 55, 100%.
    The Pi is in the basement which is cool 50's degrees F. So far for what I'm currently using it for, the Pi has not gone above 42 degrees C. If I put my hand on the case, it feels very warm. Makes a nice hand warmer.
    I have not stressed out the Pi in this case, but am glad to see what Chris used to do so. I will be doing this as well as a sanity check for me to know that the Pi is running as it should. I will also rerun the config script to run the fan continuously and see how it runs or how loud it runs.

  • @Ollital
    @Ollital 3 года назад +1

    The assembly of this case is so easy that I could do it single handed on my own in a few minutes. I love it.

  • @moaliyt
    @moaliyt 3 года назад +1

    Extensive and to the point reviews. No unnecessary, feigned excitement or theatricals as Linus who had binged on sugar candy. Subscribed!

  • @Sidecutter
    @Sidecutter 3 года назад +2

    Looks like they could add a couple very nice features pretty easily. Extend the SD card slot out slightly and give you a slot to use it on the case, and flip the M2 socket onto the bottom of the board, with a hatch in the case bottom for easy access. If they could find a way to jumper the USB3 connection internally as well so you don't use up a port for the connection, this would be about the best case out there.

  • @grigoris.7732
    @grigoris.7732 3 года назад +2

    You, sir, are the source of my computer literacy, and I can't thank you enough.

  • @sid_gm1949
    @sid_gm1949 3 года назад +33

    Argon one seems impressive, however "cooling tower" looks cool .

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  3 года назад +8

      Yes, I would totally agree!

    • @lastinline1958
      @lastinline1958 3 года назад

      I used one for a while. Highly effective, but I wanted to streamline my system.

    • @pyramis47
      @pyramis47 3 года назад +2

      To be honest, cooling towers look too flashy and are pretty bulky and overkill for something like the Pi, I'd rather have a gray box on my desk

    • @ernestgalvan9037
      @ernestgalvan9037 3 года назад +1

      Absolutely look cool… and as the cooling temperature tests showed, they are great at cooling the Pi..
      Lowest temp 29C vs 38C
      Highest temp 35C vs 49C
      But, the smaller, fully enclosed Argon, with all wires/cables in the back, and IR receiver is SO nice.

    • @desmondsparrs
      @desmondsparrs 3 года назад

      Im using the first version of this case for my Pi 4b since my shitty Pimoroni fan stopped working then it just broke.
      Best case ever! I can run it over locked at 2000mhz all day long and the fan doesn't need to actually go on, altho it becomes much cooler, but that fan is so noisy.
      I havent used my Pi 4 in a long time tho.
      Wow this new case has full sized HDMI-ports!I almost wanna get this one just cause of that because micro-hdmi gets worn out and crap out very fast for me. I hate them.
      I would need a new Pi 4 tho to use this new Argon one case because I broke one of my USB3-ports on mine

  • @chrisg6597
    @chrisg6597 3 года назад +1

    One thing that is really useful to have with one of these cases is a USB3 A plug to A plug cable. This allows a PC to be connected directly to the bottom USB3 connector (SSD) on the Argon One. This allows setting up the SSD in situ.

    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 3 года назад

      And better to use than the supplied dongle - that seems to contribute to WiFi interference.

  • @seguramlk
    @seguramlk 3 года назад +4

    That second thermal pad triggered my OCD lol. Awesome video again my friend 👍

  • @tonymurphy30
    @tonymurphy30 3 года назад +44

    A round of applause for Stanley the knife please....

    • @fmlazar
      @fmlazar 3 года назад +2

      Word is that EC is going to be bumped and Stanley's getting his own dare I say.... cutting edge... podcast.

    • @klauskugelmann7719
      @klauskugelmann7719 3 года назад +1

      Stanley deserves it. Just remember, his cousin Mack is famous in show business since 93 years now!

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 3 года назад +7

    This is pretty neat, I might need to get one for an application I have. I wish there were more cases that brought all of the connections out the back.

  • @alexmcd378
    @alexmcd378 3 года назад +1

    Just found out they released an adapter to add m.2 to the original Argon one. Nice!

    • @mariopojoy
      @mariopojoy 3 года назад

      Yeah, but be careful... It must contain the 2.2 version of the board, that one fixes the WiFi problems of the original version, basically the original one makes a faraday cage for the pi4 wifi antenna, the new one removes a chunk of copper on both sides of the board for that matter. Also I don't know if it fits the very first original argon one case that has micro HDMI ports.

    • @alexmcd378
      @alexmcd378 3 года назад

      @@mariopojoy good to know. Thanks!

  • @epsileth
    @epsileth 3 года назад +4

    Bought the original case when pi 4 came out, glad the lower m.2 part is sold separately. 😁

    • @jfan4reva
      @jfan4reva 3 года назад

      You're still stuck with the mini-HDMI connectors, but, yeah, I was glad to see that I could add M.2 after buying an Argon One before the M.2 came out.

    • @TheOleHermit
      @TheOleHermit 3 года назад

      @@jfan4reva Oh well. Yeah, mini-HDMI sucks, so I suggest avoiding connecting/disconnecting the mini-HDMI ports and use the inline connectors on the adapter cables. ;-)

    • @BradClarke
      @BradClarke 3 года назад

      @@jfan4reva they've released a V2 of the original case with full size HDMI connectors.

  • @mlgreenspan1760
    @mlgreenspan1760 3 года назад

    This is just about the Ultimate case for the RPI 4 - my only (almost too minor) comment is to take the door off the top that covers the GPIO PINS OUT
    I noticed a 2-3 degree drop in temp from doing this, as I think it helps increases airflow.
    Bought a RPI 4 about 2 months ago and love it - used this case to go from the 32 GB micro SD card to a 128GB SSD.
    This case might seem expensive but it's worth it and it looks sharp. Great video!

  • @smartassist9700
    @smartassist9700 3 года назад +1

    Argon has stepped up bigger on cases! Awesome!

  • @arthurdent8091
    @arthurdent8091 3 года назад

    Hi Chris, a belated Towel Day greetings to you. I just bought a Baofeng Tri-band radio for about $35 here and it seems to be performing quite well soo far. I also took this opportunity to get out my Ailunce HD-1 and begin to program it. I bought it shortly before getting sick so now I decided is the time. I also had a very nice surprise and discovered that if I downloaded a certain driver the memory locations DOUBLE without the need to send into a shop. And to top it all off I downloaded several codeplugs that hope to have installed before the summer is over. All I can say is THANK YOU Ailunce!! You never mentioned, that I recall, if you said you were a Ham or not. I find that it is good to have several ways to make contact with the rest of the world in an emergency. Just a brief story to illustrate my point, some years ago when mobile phones were new a local fire chief held aloft his shiny new mobile and pronounce to all of the surrounding Hams, that he felt that hams had become redundant. Naturally, the hams had two unvoiced opinions, one - "I've heard that before" and "We will see." One of the chief hams knew the area and sly challenged him to make a contact right now. The fireman fired it up and got NO bars, not even static. The chief ham knew that they were standing in an rf "Black Hole". He then proceeded to make an effortless contact to another ham, who was standing by some miles away in crystal clear audio. "Civilians" have no concept of such things while Hams do. The ham left him with two parting thoughts, 1- That Amateur radios death has been predicted many times before, and 2- Good luck with his new toy. and walked away trying to stifle a laughing fit with some of the other hams present.
    I'm a bit wordy but I didn't have the time to make it any shorter. 73

  • @SuperHaunts
    @SuperHaunts 3 года назад +4

    A *most excellent* find ... thanks for introducing this to the world!

  • @plutoniumshore
    @plutoniumshore 3 года назад +1

    Ive got one of those older argon cases...but I absolutely love it.

    • @C0MPUTERPHILE
      @C0MPUTERPHILE 3 года назад

      They sell the M.2 board as a standalone upgrade (and they also sell the non-M.2 version with some upgrades, like fullsize HDMI)

  • @billfusionenterprise
    @billfusionenterprise 3 года назад +1

    Finally someone has mad a case that both fixes stupid design flaws (micro HDMI and cooling) and makes the Pi useful

    • @BradClarke
      @BradClarke 3 года назад +1

      There currently is one issue with the m.2 case related to 2.4 gHz wi-fi signals.
      You can force it to use a 5 gHz connection by specifying the bssid of the nearest access point in the wifi configuration.

  • @sagetechnology4913
    @sagetechnology4913 3 года назад +1

    Idk why, but I stopped receiving notifications from your channel for maybe a month, glad to be back.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  3 года назад

      I'm glad you are back too! :)

    • @sagetechnology4913
      @sagetechnology4913 3 года назад

      @@ExplainingComputers :)

    • @TheOleHermit
      @TheOleHermit 3 года назад

      For some unknown reason, over the past month, YT keeps randomly logging me out, which stops all notifications. Very annoying, indeed.

  • @chriholt
    @chriholt 3 года назад +1

    Wow Chris, that is a VERY impressive case. If I were ever to use a Raspberry Pi as a daily driver, that's the case I would get. Thanks for the (as always) great review.

  • @Colin_Ames
    @Colin_Ames 3 года назад +2

    It is definitely a good looking case that goes together nicely. Great video, as always.

  • @ianbertenshaw4350
    @ianbertenshaw4350 3 года назад +1

    The only thing that concerns me is the security of the usb 3.0 adapter - I wouldn’t want to unplug it by mistake while it is running - some form of retaining clip or screw would have been nice 😀
    I think a few different case manufacturers will now be scurrying about trying to play catch up with some of the features like the daughter board - that really is a neat solution !

  • @lastinline1958
    @lastinline1958 3 года назад

    Thanks C. Been using this case for a while now. Can't say enough about how great it is. My Rpi 4 4GB in this case running Twister is my main system, now. My only knock against it is that I needed an external wifi to get any reception with it. I use ethernet, now with no issues.

  • @woolfy02
    @woolfy02 2 года назад +2

    I'm not sure if it's well known but you can hook up a USB A to USB A to the m.2 bottom port (The one connected to the m.2 bottom case) If you need to flash the SSD. A lot easier than having to deal with the SD card as well as pulling the case apart. Mine runs so much better with the SSD!

  • @leonkernan
    @leonkernan 3 года назад +1

    Coming third wasn’t a bad effort considering it didn’t turn its fan on, while the others were presumably on due to their fan based design.
    I’ve been running one of these on my home assistant Pi and it hasn’t turned the fan on once yet.
    Admittedly it’s winter here in Australia, but I’m expecting it to behave quite well over summer too.

  • @johnmartin1555
    @johnmartin1555 3 года назад

    Crazy concept for a video.
    I just moved to Florida and bought an old uninsulated house.
    Florida is warm and humid in the summer. And I would like to protect cameras and stuff from humidity. I have one room that has a small window air conditioner.
    I would like to build a unit that would control the airconditioner and a fan to pull exterior air into the room.
    So what is needed is a device to control an electrical plug that also analyzes indoor/outdoor/ambient temp and humidity.
    Logic is straightforward but I have no knowledge of current technology to control power to an electrical outlet. The device I am pondering is a solenoid/relay.
    Also a screen that shows measurements and targets. A way to adjust targets easily.

    • @skoolspirit1476
      @skoolspirit1476 3 года назад

      People use these types of devices to accomplish things similar to what you describe and many have documented it on RUclips. Greenhouse control, watering plants, etc. I use a Pi Zero, a relay, and open source software to control my underground sprinklers for instance; and (possibly) in future, greenhouse automation. I would suggest you may like to look at ChilliChumps Beginners Guide to Automation - ruclips.net/p/PLuQ_ySnkV1elVl8hCvmYyEzjs_vxEIsxu for some of what you describe, as the scope may be more than Chris wishes to tackle as a project.

  • @IRgEEK
    @IRgEEK 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this awesome post. Been looking for a next-level case beyond bare Canakit type shells for my 4s. This post was super helpful mate.

  • @galatei11
    @galatei11 3 года назад +1

    It's worth mentioning that this is M.2 to USB converter, and I had it for some time now, but found the Rpi4 with argon m.2 case to be very unstable. I run into serious storage handling problems which come after a while of the system running. Same M.2 drive (Samsung) works perfectly in a Mini PC for the last 4 months. I would say it's just not worth it until RPi has full and stable sata support rather than over USB.

  • @TiberiusWallace
    @TiberiusWallace 3 года назад +5

    Chris, you're a legend.

  • @andrewd4906
    @andrewd4906 3 года назад +6

    When I added the M2 base to my Argon One case I didn't put the screws in until I sorted the USB boot out. Then I removed the microSD card and screwed the base to the case.

    • @njbair
      @njbair 3 года назад

      Same here. The rigid USB bridge actually did a decent job keeping it all together during the migration.

  • @MrMalchore
    @MrMalchore 3 года назад

    So glad to see you got around to reviewing this amazing RPi case. Love this case. But I have to admit - blocking the microSD port is a pain. Also - it bothered me it includes full size HDMI ports. I bought a microHDMI to HDMI cable for the RPi but can't use it now.

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy 3 года назад +1

      Switch to an ssd...it's night and day difference. One could cut a slot in it rather easily

  • @deechvogt1589
    @deechvogt1589 3 года назад

    Yep have the original Argon 1 case. Still need to upgrade to this model with the full size HDMI. Thanks for another video and as always, cheers and stay well.

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 3 года назад +5

    That doesn't seem a very fast boot time considering that is probably a stock install of Rpi OS.
    I had my Pi4 booting from a USB stick and I'm sure it was much faster than that, I now have that Pi employed with my 3D printers running Octopi and 4 USB webcams so I can't really test boot times

  • @deviationblue
    @deviationblue 3 года назад +24

    Yay, my favourite computing channel did a video on my pi case! I bought the Argon One M.2 in November and it has served me very well.

  • @alinaqirizvi1441
    @alinaqirizvi1441 Год назад +1

    Also btw you can by the case without the m.2 stuff for £26 and if you need to add an m.2 at a later date you can buy the £20 expansion board

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Год назад

      Yes, I've reviewed the standard case here: ruclips.net/video/IJn3fz7Zk4Q/видео.html

  • @Cheerok
    @Cheerok 3 года назад +2

    The only thing the argon one is missing for becoming the perfect alrounder when using the pi as a desktop device, would be PoE as a power option. Would not mind it getting a bit bigger for doing so. I mean you could use a poe splitter, but built in would be a bit more neat :)

    • @Cheerok
      @Cheerok 3 года назад

      @@_Clivey its kind of weird that his is a feature many case developers seem to overlook oO

  • @scheimong
    @scheimong 3 года назад +2

    Funny how I was configuring my new Argon One (w/o m.2 edition) just yesterday and RUclips recommends this video to me today... I guess I google searched sometihng.

  • @PS_Tube
    @PS_Tube 3 года назад +1

    Another cool video from our favourite channel. And behold it's has co-starring Stanley.

  • @marvintpandroid2213
    @marvintpandroid2213 3 года назад +6

    I wonder if we will ever get a £100 Pi with M.2 and everything that would be needed to make a really nice desk top replacement, maybe with an option for ARM based windows 10 64 bit.

    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 3 года назад +3

      If it was NVMe maybe - the M.2.SATA is getting rarer. But NVMe takes way too much power than the Pi4 USB can supply.

    • @harrkev
      @harrkev 3 года назад

      @@stephenhookings1985 : Nope. I can run a NVMe case just fine from a Pi. The drive is a crappy 500GB model without DRAM that came with my Dell gaming laptop that I had to dump for something bigger. Bit it boots my Pi just fine. Especially if you use a quality power supply.

  • @ElmerFuddGun
    @ElmerFuddGun 3 года назад +1

    49°C is no better than the "Fan Shim" that didn't even have a heat sink. *BUT* your settings prevented the fan from coming on below 55° so this confuses the comparison a bit more. In the end though it is better to not even need a fan running.
    It would have been interesting to run a longer CPU stress test to see how hot it gets and whether the fan will keep it cool.

  • @alexlandherr
    @alexlandherr 3 года назад +1

    My regular Argon One works just fine, I’ve set the fan to only trigger if the temperature rises above 50 degrees Celsius.

  • @rogerkoh1979
    @rogerkoh1979 3 года назад

    It is a nice Case . Have been using it for three months.Temperature is well control.

  • @digitalmediafan
    @digitalmediafan 3 года назад

    The hdparm test only gave me 257MB/sec with my WD green 240gb M.2 ssd. Little bit disappointed it's not the same

  • @Capitaine.Albator
    @Capitaine.Albator 3 года назад

    Again amazing review and awesome little case... You are the best SBC / tech channel. 👍🏻✌🏻🇨🇦

  • @RetroSegaDev
    @RetroSegaDev 3 года назад +2

    Beautiful little case! I am very tempted to pick one up!

  • @rivertees
    @rivertees Год назад +1

    Just what I needed at this time, thanks

  • @joegee2815
    @joegee2815 3 года назад +3

    That is fantastic and would make a nice little portable desktop.

  • @Tree2Tool
    @Tree2Tool 3 года назад +1

    Your design using an all brass body & ICE tower is better option. You can cut, drill & fit to your exact needs. The only component you really need to make your design a bit more compact is the dual USB adapter. ICE tower can probably be programmed to run at different speeds depending on temperature; have to find how that's done. Still prefer your design.

  • @therealjackfisher
    @therealjackfisher 2 года назад

    Probably the best case for raspberry pi 4.

  • @insanemainstream3633
    @insanemainstream3633 3 года назад

    Good Sunday morning to all. I setup a Raspberry Pi 4 DNS server using Pi-hole has been doing a stellar job.

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 3 года назад +1

    It truly is an impressive case and almost perfect, yet I’m not a fan of the use of an outside USB connector for a “completely enclosed” case. Looking forward to your next video!

    • @Reziac
      @Reziac 3 года назад +1

      Same thought, tho you can always use a hub and get your 2nd port back, and more. But now it occurs to me to wonder if you can route the M.2 through a hub. (Yes, I try silly things like that... I have a KVM powered off a USB hub that way.)

  • @debr961
    @debr961 3 года назад +1

    I got this case a while ago. I love it. Kinda reminds me of Tesla's cybertruck aesthetic wise.

  • @AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
    @AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 3 года назад +1

    Finally we can take........ a closer look, again 💪😍

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 3 года назад

    Nice case. I 'rolled my own' mounting a pi 4 and 2.5" form factor SSD inside a case for Home assistant. I also had the idea to use solid aluminum stock (1/2" X 1/2", two of them) to come in contact with the CPU and ram chip and carry that heat out to the all aluminum case. I'm not using any fan. Only the mass of the bar stock and the exterior of the case to carry away the heat. I'm also using a bulkhead type ethernet connector that has punch down connects and a very short cat 6 to get my ethernet connection out. The only penetrations in the case are the ethernet connector, 5vdc power supply to the pi board, and I cut a slot just for convenience for the sd card just in case I need to use one and as such won't have to open the case to access it. There are two board slide rails inside the case and I have internal copper clad board that I used to mount everything. the only screws that are outside the case are the stock end plate mounting screws, and two bevel head screws I use to mount the 1/2" x 1/2" barstock solidly to the case for good heat transfer.
    The case that I chose:
    www.amazon.com/dp/B07KYDVH4T?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
    The SSD cable that I chose that fits in the box nicely and is fully compatible with the pi (Linux compatible):
    www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y825SB8?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
    Ethernet connector:
    www.amazon.com/dp/B07JZFWB1X?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
    All together I have about $30 dollars invested in hardware for a case and a few hours labor, although I have the time and enjoy these kinds of project, but really for the time and labor involved in rolling your own solution I think that the Argon case is well worth the money. It's an eloquent solution.

  • @stephenlittle7534
    @stephenlittle7534 3 года назад +4

    Looks like your ICE TOWER was the beez knez. Then. When it comes to temperatures. 😂
    But i do think after looking at this I might get one now.
    A BIG Thanks to you Sir.

    • @C0MPUTERPHILE
      @C0MPUTERPHILE 3 года назад

      It's still comparing apples to oranges. Ice Tower is always on fan (and nothing lasts forever) and this only turns on a fan when it's needed (and delay the period before the fan turns to shit and makes horrible noises).

    • @stephenlittle7534
      @stephenlittle7534 3 года назад

      @@C0MPUTERPHILE Hi Jan. I surpose you could always say better to have some Cold air then over heat. 😉

  • @digitalmediafan
    @digitalmediafan 3 года назад +1

    I presume there's no limit on the storage with an M.2 ?

  • @My03Tundra
    @My03Tundra 3 года назад +1

    I’m SO tempted to build a PI 4 computer like this, and do a good Linux installation on it, for basic daily stuff and game emulation, too.

    • @KingKevin108
      @KingKevin108 3 года назад

      What linux distro would you use instead of Raspbian?

    • @My03Tundra
      @My03Tundra 3 года назад

      @@KingKevin108 That’s the hard part, as there are now many options. If I were to do a build like this, Raspbian (based off of Debian), is pretty solid.

  • @cdsentone3832
    @cdsentone3832 3 года назад +1

    It would be nice if, since the m.2 part has ports on it already, they gave you an extra USB 3.0 port to replace the one taken by the m.2.

    • @thanatosor
      @thanatosor 3 года назад

      Taken and returned, like a fair trade !

  • @k7ufo819
    @k7ufo819 3 года назад +1

    It would have been nice to see a comparison of the download speed and signal strength before and after putting the case. My Flirc Raspberry Pi 4 Case aluminum body design affected them compared to not having a case.

  • @RDTOYS
    @RDTOYS 3 года назад +1

    You are a super teacher Sir

  • @JuryDutySummons
    @JuryDutySummons 3 года назад +1

    I have this case! It's really nice. I use it as my bench pi for writing my python scripts for my other pi projects. The top fits a GPIO ribbon cable just fine, thankfully.

  • @KanielD
    @KanielD 3 года назад

    Always excited for a new video! Thank you!

  • @ChrisShawc
    @ChrisShawc 3 года назад

    That 'U' shaped USB connector looks very handy for other projects.

  • @2ndEditionBryce
    @2ndEditionBryce 3 года назад

    I have that case. Try as I might I could not get the fan to work properly. At first it was on non stop. After tinkering around it no longer starts up at all. When I first turn the pi on it turns on and spins for a few seconds but after that it will never turn on again. Oh well. The case itself cools pretty good on it's own.

  • @emadalzahid4626
    @emadalzahid4626 2 года назад +1

    Great job, Chris 👍

  • @sovereignlivingsoul
    @sovereignlivingsoul 3 года назад

    I have an Argon M.2 case, not currently using it, I find the temperature with mine is between 45 and 55, I am currently using the DeskPi pro and after receiving the updated parts, I find I have the same issues I had with the DeskPi Pro and it runs at 56 during normal operation. I am building a raspberry pi case at the moment, and I will probably be switching to my Muizei case while I do that, which usually runs under 45. I also have the official raspberry pi case, I installed the fan accessory, it runs real hot, and an aluminum case which also runs hot. So so far the cases I have purchased haven't been up to par, the Argon case is a nice design, but with no access for the sd card and a poor cooling system, I think it needs a remodel. The DeskPi Pro I have has a few issues, you can't access the GPIO pins with a 40 pin cable, the slot is too small and its positioned too close to the plate it is attached to, the first HDMI port doesn't work and the USB 2.0 ports don't work. I had to take the DeskPi Pro out of its case to install my sound card with a GPIO edge extension. I checked the Argon M.2 case and its GPIO slot fits the female header nicely. Its a nice case, but I do think the cooling needs work, really my only problem with it. Great video as always.

  • @DaveSomething
    @DaveSomething 3 года назад +60

    I have 2 of them, the fan inside is crappy and starts squealing like a pig on startup. I've found a larger fan just sitting on top blowing down on it works MUCH better. also, don't use the stupid thermal pads, use thermal goo... drops temps significantly. otherwise, the overpriced case works nicely and looks good.

    • @richards7909
      @richards7909 3 года назад +8

      Will thermal goo make good contact though? I assume apart from keeping things clean and easy to install, the pads are also used to ensure good contact as I guess the case/board tolerance isn’t that accurate. :)

    • @knghtbrd
      @knghtbrd 3 года назад +2

      I have wondered about the most ideal replacement for the Argon One fan. I do like the case and it's kind of my go-to case just for the full-size HDMI and the integrated SATA. The fan gets little use, but … I've definitely owned better fans.

    • @snax_4820
      @snax_4820 3 года назад +3

      I can only confirm your observations. But it seems that our friend here has got some benefits from Argon.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 3 года назад +3

      If you care about the fan unscrew it and pop the sticker off the back, you can usually oil them. I haven't found many fans i can't oil like this and fix the noise.
      External cooling will certainly do a better job, but sometimes you can't beat a compact package like that.

    • @lastinline1958
      @lastinline1958 3 года назад +5

      My fan, which is always on, is virtually silent, so you may have a dud, there. +1 on the thermal goo, though. Works perfectly for me. Won't need thermal pads ever again.

  • @weskirkland5850
    @weskirkland5850 2 года назад +1

    12:00 That command was giving me fits on my US keyboard. Apparently my pi (retropie) is using a UK keyboard setting so I had no way to make the symbol before bash at the end of the command.
    Figured it out on my US keyboard you have to hit RIGHT ALT and the ` key over the tab button to get the proper symbol.

  • @dustinmeier9753
    @dustinmeier9753 3 года назад

    I missed the release of an 8 GB RPi 4. Now that my 4GB RPi unit has been assigned to duty on my 3D printer with Octopi, I need to grab another, and I like this set up here.

  • @rickwt64
    @rickwt64 3 года назад +1

    I always look forward to your videos. Great and informative site!!

  • @ninline2000
    @ninline2000 3 года назад

    I wish this had been available when I bought my Pi 4 boards. I have Ice Tower coolers on them now, but to have a slick case with excellent cooling plus M.2 would be great.

  • @none941
    @none941 2 года назад

    The only tool I have found that will write an OS successfully to the M.2 is the Pi Imager, and then, only using a listed OS. Attempts to write an OS not included in the library of the imager always ended in a failure to boot. Etcher proved useless, where it always wrote micro sdhc cards and USB keys correctly. This product is great now that it is working, however using it is not as straightforward as you claimed. There are clearly issues that need addressing in future releases of the Argonone M.2.

  • @NewmanOnGaming
    @NewmanOnGaming 3 года назад

    I have this case. Worth every penny. I actually use this as a mini plex server.

  • @waynec369
    @waynec369 3 года назад

    I suppose RUclips is too concerned with matters other than user experience, such as politics. I spent the day yesterday wondering what may have happened to Chris as there was no notification, nor did a search reveal a new video. Lo and behold I find this video in the feed this evening. A full day later. Go figure...
    Good to see all is well!

  • @doncosner2611
    @doncosner2611 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting seeing what can be done with such a small form factor! I like your ultimate build better though!

  • @gamercop911
    @gamercop911 3 года назад

    Hey Chris, Not sure if you've tried it or not but considering full utilization of the RPi4, The DeskPi case is also worth considering in competition with the Argon One seeing how the DeskPi will allow SATA HDD/SSD or M.2 with simple access to the SD card and built in low-profile Cooler similar to the ICE tower (tho laying down). They even had to improve their design due to some features causing EMF interference. likely the most costly case with similar form factor.

  • @karbinunit
    @karbinunit 3 года назад

    Its a good case, all good been running it for months as my Amiga emulator!

  • @hikkiyt3556
    @hikkiyt3556 3 года назад +1

    Well That intro never gets old

  • @dossaer
    @dossaer 3 года назад +1

    Quite a tidy case solution. I still kinda prefer your steampunk solution, personality goes a long way. 🙂
    Do I hear something different in your voice Chris? A cold perhaps? Or were you using a different setup for the middle part of this vid? Hope you’re well.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  3 года назад +1

      Some voice problems in one section, yes.

    • @dossaer
      @dossaer 3 года назад +1

      @@ExplainingComputers still just as clear and informative regardless of the minor variation. 👍🙂

  • @JediBuddhist
    @JediBuddhist 3 года назад

    Cheers Chris. 🙏 Would you consider a Wi-Fi and Bluetooth test ?
    A man down the pub told me this case interferes with transmissions.
    I Do trust him... but I think I trust you more.

  • @wisconsinwintergreen6296
    @wisconsinwintergreen6296 3 года назад

    I want this so bad because the design and color are somehow nearly identical to my Lenovo Leigon y545 laptop. The Pi would look so cute next to it!

  • @rassman48
    @rassman48 3 года назад +1

    Trouble is, it is all nice and neat until you do anything with the PIO, then you have to take that panel off and probably will never put it back on, even if you only wanted a two wire serial coms to an external device/bread board of your own making, you will forever have that part exposed, and ready to receive bits of wire or solder (or even the jam from a donut).
    I would rather they had allowed a ribbon connecter out through a slot. My general point of view is that though R-Pi makes a nice Linux desktop terminal, most users will have a much more powerful Laptop/computer already on their desk.
    The Pi comes into it's own when the cases etc make it easy to build/control projects that are off the processor board. So some of the other cases do a better job of exposing the parts you would need to the outside world whilst protecting the CPU board from damage.

  • @VideosfromNH
    @VideosfromNH 3 года назад +2

    If you are getting slow SSD speed like I was, there is a thread on raspberry pi forum about SSDs and USB Attached SCSI(UAS). I guess my older M.2 ssd did not handle UAS.
    My initial speed was 87MB/s, far less than the speed shown in this video. After applying the 'quirks' entry in /boot/cmdline.txt, I rebooted the Pi. Speed went up to 137MB/s. Better, but still not as high as in this video. I shutdown and powered back on. I'm now up to 220MB/s.
    The thread I looked at was: www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1501426

    • @TheOleHermit
      @TheOleHermit 3 года назад +1

      Yes, I found the same issue, until I saw Jeff Geerling's YT video on the subject. It's also true with flash drives. Discovered that the "Corsair Flash Voyager GTX 512GB USB 3.1 Premium Flash Drive" performed as well as my SATA M.2 SSDs. Unfortunately, the same wasn't true with the less expensive "Corsair CMFSL3X1-32GB Flash Voyager Slider X1 32GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive". Education can be expensive. :-(

  • @SJPretorius000
    @SJPretorius000 3 года назад +8

    Hey Chris
    I heard Windows got a package manager, you might wanna check that out!

    • @Appalling68
      @Appalling68 3 года назад +1

      You mean "Winget"? LOL! The phrase "package manager" and "Windows" are mutually exclusive. For fun, check out Gardiner Bryant's video on it. Too funny.