Woke people: "We're protecting Latinos and feeling offended on their behalf!" Latinos: "No you're not. There is nothing to be offended by here. Just stop. You're not helping us in anyway." Woke people: "Shut up! You're an asshole! You're attacking me!" *starts crying*
Me: *_heh, pathetic._* In all seriousness, these woke people really made my head to boiling up to highest point, even higher than the heat of the Sun. They never deserves a place in society if they're keeping with their childish behavior.
As a Latino, I hate that the gringos pretend to be like our defenders, it's as if they think we are weak or something, the worst thing is that in the end they base themselves on stereotypes when criticizing that type of art, saying that its racist to add a white latino, when that argument is racist
They're not defenders, they're just THAT side of SJWs who think they're doing the "right" things just to seek validation from others and themselves without realizing the consequences, or even to build their own ego or attempt to paint themselves as "good" people when they're clearly not. Some of them also take advantage of their status and they think they can do whatever they want. Honestly though, they think they're doing the world a favor, but in reality they're the most selfish scumbags who often fall in irony and hipocrisy.
Imaginate que otroz weyes que se sientan tan entitulados que haveces los e cachado que elijan palbras suaves y alenten su forma de hablar. No mames wey, ni que fuera chango. Casi usualmente encuentro ese tipo de gente siendo liberales hippies y tipo twittard, pero si hay otros que les vale mango, y nomas los invito por una chela y hablan como normal. ESO es mucho mejor.
Pero esque hay unos que se pasan de tarados y parece que no tienen neuronas, refiriéndome a los de Twitter para no meter a todos en el mismo saco. Lo peor es que cuando se trata de defenderse no se compara la efectividad entre el latino y el gringo promedio en cuanto a defendernos por cuenta propia
Reminds me how this artist that made a drawing of a light brown chubby girl with tribal tattoos. And someome "fixed her art" by making the drawing of the girl be black, obese and took off her ink. Along with a message saying "Learn to draw proper diversity, also those tattoos were cultural appropriation." That was a self portrait of the artist! Who just so happen to be native hawaiian!
I wish they would stop trying to talk for other races. I am a Latina and it looks just FINE I quite like it! You can tell their style has a more pastel tone over it! Its very well done and they deserved praise over the garbage people who have nothing to do with it gave them. They're the same people who make Encanto's movie about something that IT ISNT and THAT makes me more angry than an artist who colored the skin just a bit lighter than the original.
This. I’m pretty sick of people dog piling artists just because they use different painting mediums or have a certain style. I mean, you have to make slight alterations to darker shades/colours in order to fit within the pastel watercolour style or else it just doesn’t work out right. It’s clear what the artist’s intentions were here, people should just appreciate this gorgeous piece and stop creating unnecessary drama.
@@thehipsterhamster1929 I'm just waiting for the day these SJWs have the balls to tell latin people right to their face that they're being racist, transphobic, and countless other things for refusing the accept the latinx term.
As a Latina, I can’t understand these kind of people that pretend to tell me I don’t know what it’s like to be a Latina because my skin is different from what they think is normal in my country. Honestly sometimes they shouldn’t talk about what is “supposed” to be offensive for us.
-Claims they value diversity and multiculturalism. -Hates it when a culture interprets another culture in their own medium, demands that the "perpetrators" adhere and stick to their own culture.
Man, there’s nothing wrong with the art. Honestly, if the artist tried to use the original skin tones, it would have completely stand out like a sore thumb. It’s pastel art. Pastel art is more gentle, less saturation. Softer colours. If anything, the artist tried their best to compensate to the closest colours they can get. I’m pretty sure that should be easy to convey!
They complained without even going into the art in detail, bc they want to see the world burn.. as an artist that mainly draws in pastel colors/softer colors (i only use more saturation and bolder colors when im doing realism, but other than that, i use lighter ones bc i mainly use watercolor, and lighter colors are more fun to use lmao) when i make fanart of people of people color (fictional ones), i always use lighter skin tones because thats just how im most comfortable drawing, and the people i show my art to at school.. they dont give a shit lmao. They couldnt care less about the skin tones, they pay attention to the things that should matter, like colors/things affiliated with their cultures, not something so blatantly stereotypical and racist like what color a persons skin should be.. bc in all honesty, its those people who are racist, not the artists doing their best to represent them.. Never once have i been told 'o h... these skin tones are too light.. burn it, ass hole *middle finger*', like twitter does....
@@baka3262 they only care for the canon skin tones, just like how i post my art of my irl self which im muslim and tan aswell (indonesian btw) after posting it theres some excuses people saying "nooo indonesian people are black and muslim aswell!!" which litearlly disgusted me.. so i deleted twitter with better reputation and sanit with other social media. edit: i deleted the twitter acc and post too so i dont want annyone to ask wheres my acc (and the event of that was only 3 people attacked me and im easily offended aswell)
The fact that people can’t tell the difference between white skin and a light tan and color palettes in general baffles me EDIT wow thanks for all the thumbs up this is the most I’ve ever gotten lol
I'm actually latino and I don't understand the issue here about the character's skin tone. I ACTUALLY like the fan art, but Twitter being Twitter. As usual : /
Because the Twitter woke police don't really care for what or who they white knight for, they just want to feel superior to others people, look at what happened in the video they white knight over the art for the Latino community even though the Latino community loves the art and when Latinos called them out the Twitter woke police turned on the group they were white knighting because they didn't agree with them.
The only thing i understand is that this "twitter police" just hate her/him because the skin color was incorrect (no tengo idea porque te hablo en ingles pero mejor asi para que los demas entiendan)
@@Nombrenooriginal the tactic that they are using is the person who made this artwork isn't in that group of people and so their artwork needs to be deleted or their account needs to be removed just to delete the representation of other races so when you really look at it with a logical point of view they are trying to weed out other races to make it predominantly white, so it's a racist tactic they're basically the KKK rebranded. They want an all white Twitter if you post anything and you're not that group of people then your content will be removed and if you do draw artwork and you're in that group of people your stuff is not going to get much representation in the Twitter sphere it is going to be pushed aside and forgotten. White supremacists use tactics of "anti-racism" to weed out anybody who dares represent another race of people you can only make white artwork because white people are superior.
As a *black* Latina, this whole issue has made me feel incredibly angry. It has been THREE times this year (yeah, barely January) where these Americans (all black, funnily enough) create a problem out of nothing, featuring Latinos ofc. First the Japanese artist, then the ''gringo is a racial slur'', and then the latest issue, when a Venezolana quoted someone else and accidentally said the hard N, and even though she didn't do it with bad intent, she was threatened, insulted and doxxed by them. I understand that's a slur, I understand a lot of people hate it, but that doesn't justify the bad treatment to her! She even said she was going to apologize until she got attacked. Now all Latinos defending her, defending the seemingly ''whitewashing'' of the fanart and saying again and again that gringo is not a slur... are racist and ''anti-black''. Hell, an Afro-American said I hated my own heritage/blood because I was defending the girl. I hate it A LOT. Please, do not bring your trauma to us, we know a word has no power and we know a drawing is a drawing.
I’m glad someone from the black community is speaking up about these issues. It’s honestly more offensive to be offended on the behalf of other race than the targeted people. I speak Chinese and there’s a filter word in Chinese that sound like the N word and often time I would be casually be talking to my family in Chinese and had to be stop by black people thinking we are saying the N word. Most of them think they are the main characters in everyone’s story and like you said “create problems out of nothing “
In Mexico, that word isn't offensive. I've had a few black friends (yes there are black people in Mex) who called themselves that way. If those sjw saw this, they'd die from a heart attack
@@TCTCyou a lot of chinese words sound like nigga, it's hilarious. Also i'm a black american dude and it's really sad to see people call anything that offends them slurs
I'm Colombiana, all I see is gorgeous artwork. Those people attacking the artist would be surprised to see (if they went to Colombia, let alone outdoors) that we don't have a stereotypical look. We look all sorts of different ways. Also Gringo is usually used along the lines "aw look at the stupid American" but it depends on context, it can also be more lighthearted or definitely calling someone a "stupid foreigner" but in a pretty bad way. It really depends on the context. lol. GUESS THEY DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED THINGS, BUT IT'S OKAY WHEN THEY DO IT, HUH?
I found out that the artist deleted the artwork, I'm really sad now :( we don't get artwork for Colombian characters/art too often, and now we get to get drowned out because Twitter demands everyone be a stereotype. I'm so disappointed.
They'll be surprised to find out other languages have certain terms to use for "foreigners." In my place we call them "bule" and it's not a slur at all, the word works like "gringos." The moment you're not a local and a foreigner, regardless what race and what not, we'll call you "bule." Even though it is mostly used towards westerners. "Lmao itu bule gk bisa makan pake tangan" Translate : lmao that foreigner/westerner can't eat with their hands.
YEAH, latino people don't have a standart look, there are stereotypes (wich are wrong as always) but we tend to vary a lot in skin tones, looks, complexion and all of that. so a slightly different skin tone is not even offensive. so these people trying to call out this beautiful artwork in defense of latinos is just annoying
They are very dedicated people to make such amazing art, shame to see the infestation known as twitter harass people like this, they really are more primal than hillichurls
"Gringo" is widely used as "foreigner". This can be either positive or negative, but usually neutral. Sometimes it's even used towards someone who looks like a foreigner or towards certain ethnic groups (for example, people with Italian ancestry in Southern Brazil). Considering how insufferable Twitter idiots are, I understand why they would think it's a slur. Real Latin Americans love every positive mention of our countries. It's random Americans/Canadians, who think they are Simón Bolívar because they eat Taco Bell, who go around pestering people to use "latinx" or other nonsense.
As someone with Italian ancestry from Southern Brazil, i had no idea we were considered gringos lol I never thought of the term as a slur. We use the term "gringo" there a lot, though. For literally any foreign person. Some people say I'm white, some say I'm considered latina instead, now I have no idea what I am xD (I look white, though)
Oh no, they definitely are demotivated. Something similar happened to me once. I ended up deleting my account, and I stopped drawing for a week because I felt as if I was genuinely in the wrong,,, my friends helped me start again tho. (What happened was I drew tiana from princess and the frog, and they said I white washed her…. I was using a pastel color palette where all the colors were more dull. If anything, tiana’s skin tone was darker then it was lighter…)
Rather than try to appreciate for the beautiful artwork for what it is they are policing about the skin color mainly and making it a race issue when it's not. The one who always think about racial problems are the ones being racist themselves, a certain wise person once said. This is just sad, seen many other artist being attacked in the same way when they post their art on the internet.
This reminds me of the time people “fixed” this south Asian character to be brown instead of light white skin like he originally was and brought it to me like “don’t you like that he looks like you now” and I was like ??? No? That is the same color of my mom. Why are you so pressed about people like her? 😭 skin color obsessed weirdos. I don’t get why they want to take a fat crap over anything nice. Are they jealous they can’t make anything? Sorry brown people come in variety of colors. 💀 and we certainly don’t want your idea of what we should be represented by. Light brown dark brown tan or white. Those are our people. At least for me I will always be represented by culture or ideals and not something as fickle as the exact shade person I am
Bro also Americans like to bastardize other language words for being anti black all the time why? Like bule? Bro? Not everything is about you specifically? You’re gonna say idiot is a racial slur next?
Lmao i remember that, that 1 drama with black American in Bali that finally got deported. She & her minions tried so hard to make the Indonesian words "bule" & "ngga" as a slur towards black ppl. Like sis, not everything is abt u 💀
I’m asian and this is why I dont bother to even use Twitter. Like I notice, why is it always the asian artists they go after for “whitewashing” characters? Meanwhile they are ok with blackwashing anime characters which to some asians (usually the ones living outside asia) is OUR REPRESENTATION.
I'm southeast Asian and one person went after me before with "I didn't know xxx was white". I tried to be polite and explained that it looked darker in my laptop, and showed them the reference picture with strong lighting. They replied with a high and mighty with- "You shouldn't have used that as reference. Next time, it's better to color pick". LIKE??? BRUH. ARE YOU THE ARTIST HERE??? I color pick when I want-! And no, they don't even do art.
It's not only twitter things. There are the artists I've known on instagram drawing fanarts of anime and getting bash by woke mob said something like "asian people is not that white stop whitewashing the character" like BRUHHHH have they ever been to japan, china or s.korea??? Majority of those people's skin are fair asf, like almost resemble of paper.
It’s really funny how people try to act victim when they get called out for what they are doing like they didn’t just start that smh and get mad when someone gets back on them smh
They are not just playing victim the usual way. This time they abused an artist while being angry on behalf of us Latin Americans. We need to erase these activists.
Whenever people r start playing the victim, it makes me wanna treat them even more harsh instead of pitying them especially when i know that they realized they *cked up and don't want to apologize.
imagine spending days on a fanart, pouring your heart and soul, sweat and tears, and years of effort and talent into portraying characters you love...and then get accused by a random nobody of racism :)
I'm from Okinawa. What these weirdos don't seem to realize is that every ethnicity comes in many shades of skin tones. In my family alone there are people with very dark skin to very pale skin. Latinos also come in all shades as well. These gringos/gain need to calm their racist asses down and just enjoy fan art.
im from brazil. Im white asf (my yt name doesnt have anything to do with it) and here there are people with all kinds of skin color and their family are native i dont get why these twitter wierdos thinks we are all the same skin color when its the opposite of it
It seems to the terminally online anything lighter than actual tan coloring is offensive to them, meanwhile they are most likely pale white. I'm white and I can't stand these perpetually offended people. They can't just leave anything alone.
I’m Latino, and I thought it was fine? There is a clear pastel palette they are using, when you compare the skin color to actual irl realistic lighting or the actual movie’s lighting engine, then yeah it’ll look off. But thanks to the pastel and by comparing the various skin colors amongst the characters, it’s pretty on point. There was really no malice intent to this piece, no need to get mad. Shit technically by definition, I’m a “gringo” and I think this is stupid.
That art is absolutely gorgeous! As a huge Encanto fan and an American I hope this artist knows I think it’s amazing and a beautiful representation of a very special movie!
Which is literally every group that isn't literal children. Which is what these Twatter psychopaths treat people like. Children. Any group. Any group they claim to like, they treat them like children. It's why they dial up the condescension to 900% whenever they find a trans person, gay person, or any racial minority who's a conservative, or disagrees with their agenda in any way. It's why they start slinging death threats whenever they find folks like Larry Elder and such.
@@AiluridaeAureus Yeah those types of white people don't need to step up every time latinos and latinas and other races have their own voices I myself am white and I feel ashamed when those types of white people acts like none of the races have their own voice
@@AiluridaeAureus It's called the white savior complex. It's a form of psychological projection to deflect their own racism at other people, while trying their damndest to pretend they're the "heroes of the opressed".
@@Marcelelias11 Preaching to the choir there, buddy. I've dealt with their lot before with their obsession with autism. They unironically think we're incapable of wiping our own asses.
We need to reach out to the artist and urge them to put the art back up. It's beautiful, a wonderful tribute to an incredible movie, and if the haters want to hate, let them. It's their life to waste.
Sadly, I don't think the artist want to come back to Twitter. If they repost it again even if they limit the replies I'm certain they're going to be harassed again in the qrts.
no, ditch twitter. It should only survive as a containment zone for all these miserable people like how facebook has now become a containment zone for boomers.
If "whitewashing" *coughlightingcough* is bad, then why are they allowed to basically, and quite literally, blackwash characters, as they literally change characters to black or dark skin tones all the time, and the people who do it are usually white.(This is not meant to sound racist, Ijust want to make a point, so I apologize in advance.) Anyway, the artwork is great, these people are just being racist imo. Not the Latino's, but the ones harrassing the artist. I believe the only reason Gringo is seen as a "slur" is because sometimes, media uses it that way.
Twitter isn't a website where common sense and consistency exists, the amount of double standard garbage Twitter participates in daily is enough to make one's skin crawl
Something that americans don't seem to understand is the big cultural gap between americans and latinos. I'm latina, I understand how our way of being works. We don't get that easily offended, we like dark humour, we make fun of eachother between countries; things like calling argentinos “narizones”(which refers to them having big noses, a very common stereotype)or calling venezolanos “skeletons” is a very common thing on memes and jokes; almost nobody gets offended at this, because we know is a joke. From my experience with the english speaking side of the internet tho, I've notice people are waaaaayyyy more sensitive in every aspect. People are kinda obsessed with representation in media in my opinion, and in the opinion of many other latinos. It already happened when they were forcing “latinxs” and “latines” down our throaths just so they could have “representation” of the non-binary latino community, without even trying to understand our language and acknowledging “latino” was already a gender neutral word(btw, never use “latinx/latine, people get really pissed at this, even the actual non-binary latinamerican community). Now it's happening again with this whole “whitewashing” deal, some even saying white latinos aren't real latinos and only colored colombian latinos need representation. I even saw someone saying “latinos can't identify whitewashing because they haven't experienced real racism”. We're all tired of americans trying to speak for us, and right now theres a big protest against this on twitter with the hashtag shutupgringo2022. Every country has joined to hopefully teach twitter police a lesson, so if you're on with this cause, it could be very useful if you help bring this protest to americans to defeat all 14 years old white girls on twitter(lol). Latinamericans have more things to cry about than representation in media. I talk for almost every latino when I say WE DON'T CARE. We don't care about being represented in american media, we don't care about having pronouns for every gender, we don't care if they get a fictional character's colors right, we don't care about having a sexuality for everything. We have hunger, we have natural disasters, we have unemployment. We even struggle to get money for college. Our countries aren't all just dancing salsa, we have REAL problems to solve, not just average twitter problems about someone making a character a white, straight man.
Narizona inflación maradona here, couldn't agree more. I don't understand Americans and at this point I don't want to. It feels like they're always celebrating the teeny tiny effort that is posting something on twitter, and calling it a righteous war for diversity. That's so, so lazy... Jesus I would be ashamed of calling myself a fighter/activist. I would practically feel my ancestors coming down in a row to slap me.
@@mustbetheSUN Its because white ppl are feeling a need to be POC "Savior" because they are privileged. And the POC who are trying to be a "savior" have been told by them that they are victims and should help other victims
I think there's a lot of people who secretly think Latinx is stupid but won't say it irl to many people because of the backlash (those who aren't Latin American I mean). Many of the people I've met in college don't exactly agree with it, especially those who have learned Spanish or speak it.
As a non-binary latinamerican i can confirm that indeed, the latinx thing pisses me off like you have no idea. Even though I hate with all my soul the amount of hate we got from other latinamericans I just can't support that word no matter if it was made with us in mind. I kinda support "latine" but only if it's to refer a group of non-binary people or an enby person, but when it's about a group with mixed genders the inclusive word will always be latinos
Even though I'm an Asian, I feel for y'all Latinos. Pretty sure that some artists got "called out" for coloring Asians white-ish and not yellow. Bruh, some of us are even whiter than some whites.
Little tidbit of info to tell future artists who are being harassed on twitter; Tell them: Don't delete it, those losers throwing a temper tantrum mean nothing to no one. They are less than nothing.
Maybe i should do it...make a dark skinned character look lighter (no not without reasons but these people cant seem to gather that skins look different in different light, and how it harmonize differently when there are tints to it, blue tint makes everything looks a bit bluish so it harmonize and looked better to the eyes)
For those of you that are wondering. The word "Gringo" comes from the phrase "the ones dressed in green are going away" is a mashup of "green" and "goes away". It was used in countries that were briefly occupied by the US, since they had green uniforms.
It's also funny *and slightly related* that green has connotations with pale. I.e. white grapes which makes *white* wine. But the grapes are like _obviously green_ but they're also still called pale grapes. (This was explained to me by my Latino friend. It slayed me to learn the etymology.)
This is just folk etymology, the word has been in use well before the united states was even a country. It most likely derived from a slang word meaning "greek", since for a time greek was the lingua franca of the Mediterranean for commerce, so most iberians just assumed whatever foreign language they heard must be greek. This is why the word "gringo" evolved to have different meanings and connotations in different countries, while in Mexico it's mainly used to refer to anglo North Americans, in Brazil it just means foreigner or outsider. There are other theories but this is the one I think is more plausible because "griego" doesn't sound too far off from "gringo"
@@Monkeywe There are many theories as to the origin of the word gringo. The popularity of each etymological theory does not necessarily reflect its plausibility. Just because you believe one specific theory, doesn't mean every other is automatically incorrect. Nonetheless, there is no "correct" origin of the word. Tho the main things people agree on is that it's not a slur, and it is mainly used on Americans. The word itself has tied heavily to the different cultures that have adapted it throughout the years, and I personally find it very interesting to see the many explanations others have for it.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” ― C. S. Lewis
as an brazilian man myself the meaning of gringo is literally anyone who the first language is english, even canadians, this is such a excuse to just walk way of the problem
Yeah! Most of the Twitter users are kinda stupid and make Caboose or science deniers look smart in comparison (If you watch Red Vs Blue this will make more sense)
Isn’t it kind of racist to assume all Latinos have to be dark?? I’m Cuban and I can’t even count the amount of times people said I was too white to be Cuban.
they are a bit lighter, but having a lighter character and not taking away their culture isnt as bad as people make it out to be. people with darker skin tones get lighter in the winter with staying inside. I'm native american and pale white
@@kobayashibrynhild9622 I'm half! haha guess it's because I have my mom's white features but my dad's hair and skin tone I hope you embrace your culture!
Exactly I'm Filipino and I used to have very brown skin but because my skin has barely seen the sun in the past 2 years I look much lighter my skin isn't exactly pale but it's kinda a yellowish light brown kinda color
I do wish the artist just responded with "cry more". its such a shame he/she got bullied over this. it's a great picture. What a fucking mood killer, to express your art and be bashed for it for such stupid shit
Hey me too! I'm a white skinned Mexican and the looks I got when I said I was Mexican XD And yeah I agree! That fanart is gorgeous, wish I could color like that.
Because the japanese can draw, they get screeched on? Why? And latinos have all the skin tones, my brother got my dad's dark skin, me and my sister got my mom's light skin. They are both of my parents are mexican
I'm Colombian, the characters are Colombian, I liked that art... it's awesome! And just like you said, we use the word "gringo" referring to any American person, we don't care about skin color, that's just bs
I saw a comment on a video about whitewashing, saying that EVEN drawings of mid/dark skin characters in a pastel tone is "harmful" and WHITEWASHING. Now isn't that stupid????
Meanwhile, we Asians have to put up with Black Artists Blackwashing Asian Characters with Brown/Tanned skin. LIKE BRUH, NOT ALL BROWN PEOPLE ARE AFRICANS. WE ASIANS ARE WHITE AND BROWN AND SOMETIMES BLACK BUT NOT AFRICAN.
I don't know if you're trying to speak for all Asians but artists are allowed to create their characters in whatever color they like. It is their version or their rendition of the content. You are not being forced to put up with it because you have the choice to disregard it and lay your attentions elsewhere. And I think it's pretty common knowledge that not all brown people are Africans and that Asians can be white, tan, or brown.
the amount of shit artists on twitter go through: people reposting their stuff when the artist's specifically have in their bios to not repost (but people still do it and dont give the artist credit) artist's who ARE okay with reposts but the reposters are too lazy to leave the artist's name in the repost assholes asking for free artwork and then when they dont get what they want they say the artist's work is, "shit, you charge too much, no one likes your garbage work anyway" telling the artist their art is wrong, (skin color is wrong) and they should be "ashamed" for insulting [insert minority group], when said people from minority group are also in the comment section appreciating the artwork. I guarantee almost all of them have "acab" and "blm" in their bios but damn do they love the power trip of policing twitter and telling POC (after "advocating" for something that didn't bother them) they don't know what they want.
@@ul8532 (soggy sausage, I love that xD) No worries! ACAB stands for, "All Cops Are B*stards" because in America (and some other places) some people think it's "cool" to constantly say, "all cops are evil and racist."
@@Notoriouslydevious there is no words in all languages alive and dead that can express the massive dumbfounded feeling my face is expressing, but knowing all the stupid things they do I'm not suprised to picture them yelling that and when tragedy comes expects the same cops to "fix" the problem 🤦🏻♀️.
The worst are the ppl that keep reposting the artist who doesnt allow repost, AND try to shame them along the way & highkey try to get them harassed. Like *post the art* "Oh but the artist ships xxx plz dont support this artist uwu uwu" "SaDLy tHe ArTIst LiKes XXX, Why is it aLwAys the GoOd ArtIst" Like, so whats ur point on sharing their arts, b**ches? The play pretend 💀
I’m a mix of latino-hispanic and black-american, and all I can say is that I lowkey want more whitewashing fanart just to trigger these twitter users. The characters aren’t even real, they have no feelings and the twitter users that “take offense” to it simply want something to complain about rather than to actually try to change the world into something positive. Every time I see a fan-art on a fictional character who’s skin color got slightly lighter; I never notice anything, until these “woke” people point it out and then discard every single effort put into the art.... over a fucking skin color. So at this point I’m done trying to keep my sanity in check and i’m done trying to stay neutral; artists, go on and “whitewash” characters. Either ways, these “woke” people love black washing asian and caucasian (simpler words: white people) characters but don’t seem to be bothered by it, if they aren’t bothered by their black washing then they shouldn’t be bothered by someone’s “white washing”, right? That’s called equality, isn’t it? And i’ve noticed that literally *ALL* artists that draw these characters a little bit lighter are all Japanese, they have no ill intent nor can they understand the mindset that this foreign society has, but these “woke” people don’t even try to sympathize with them; they just go on and accuse them of a million things that aren’t true at all and try to come up with a cheap excuse for their passive aggressive toxicity or just straight up toxicity. Jesus, can we all just not give af about the skin color on fictional characters? I wish I could just return back to the time where my mindset saw every fanart as beautiful and that any time I saw a drawing with the skin color slightly lighter I didn’t have to be reminded of the term “whitewash” nor the toxic people who use it. Actually why can’t we all return back to the time where we all didn’t care about such irrelevant details on a drawing and praise them all for the great effort put into them? (This is very damn long, but if you have the attention span and time to do so, please read what’s below) Edit: Let me clarify that when I mean to go on and whitewash I only mean it with the sole purpose of producing art and with the purpose of getting these twitter users mad. Do not whitewash with the intent to actually be racist, like for example: Some dumbass decides to take my words out of context to shape it into a different meaning that benefits their acts and decides to make/edit someone white but not to get twitter users mad or for art but to use that art/image to engage in racist acts, like if you grabbed an image of George Floyd and colored him white to then go on and use that image as a symbol for a campaign with the purpose of (for example) returning black people to slavery times or whatnot, doing that is not the same as drawing a fictional character and making him a bit lighter just for the sake of art or grabbing a character and making him light only to make sensitive people mad and not for anything more than that. Here’s the thing: these twitter users have a point but they’re taking it too far/they don’t understand when its actually valid to call an act ‘racist’ so they go on and call everything racist and then proceed to use their minority and victimization status to unjustly call any act that is obviously not it - ‘racist’ or ‘offensive’ just for the sake of having to feel a sense of superiority or validation when in reality they’re making things worse for everyone and for themselves. Because once people experience your unjust/toxic acts enough times they’ll eventually get sick of it and hate on you, which then leads to a form of PTSD (I think it’s called something else, I’m not sure) that whatever symbol or person that looks/acts like you will trigger them and might either cause more violence or more division between people. So thanks twitter users! You’re very smart.
I've seen an artist get a lot of hate over their kaeya fanart... they kept adjusting the skin color and just got more hate and was told it didn't look right, until they just went and deleted it
white washing? dont forget blackwashing japanese I cant count how many times they try to fix japanese characters in anime by makeing them black ( and im not talking tan here I mean actual black) -_- just please stop.
I agree with you 100% twitter artists can go blackwash fictional characters and im pretty sure if most of the non-woke Twitter community knew the reasoning behind it, they'd support it as well lmao. These woke, problematic c h i l d r e n (sad thing is they probably older than me) complaining about everything that shouldn't even be complained about. Not them thinking if they complain the world will magically change to benefit their own views. Not even thinking about the consequences of their actions or what they say, bc they only want to benefit themselves or feel relevant (by being offended on behalf of someone else, they validate their own signifance), i highly doubt woke twitter even care about the community theyre being offended for, bc if they genuinly did theyd empathize with their situations but they dont.. If they want change in the world then they should change it, not going on twitter, claiming offense and then not even providing any reason in detail. If they want equality, or representation, these people should appreciate acts of representation, like this fan art made by a japanese artist, instead of literally attacking these people who are genuinely trying... yes these people are woke but at what cost? they sacrificed their own common sense and human decency to be, and once again im glad i dont associate with them reason # (i lost track): of why I hate my generation
I love how technically by trying to speak in behalf of a race or a sexuality twitter effectively opposes them so its ironic to see their sad attempts at trying to cancel people
If people spent half of the time that they spend trying to undermine others, trying to create something... we would live in an incredibly beautiful world.
One thing I can say from being a Latina is that we do not tend to get mad at people who are interested in our culture or things like that. 🤷♀️ if someone dresses in traditional clothing of ours or things that remind people of us the reaction is “ oh my god look how cool they look” because it makes us feel included and appreciated that someone took the time to learn and like things that we grew up with or are apart of 🤷♀️
if the greatest artists of all time like Leonardo da Vinci , Picasso etc were alive at this time .. they would just be cancelled for like everything people are just dumb these days they only need to point out unnecessary things
I never saw the movie but did hear about it. The artists did nothing wrong I may not be latino but I’m standing right along side the artists. I can’t stand Twitter any longer.
I recommend these Japanese artist go on Discord and just abandon Twitter that website is just nothing but pure hatred and is a reason why I will never go on that website. Quite frankly I think that website needs to shut down.
@@Seri-Chama _"Which is nice since I don’t see many english speaking people there"_ I heard/read once that some Leftists actually went out of their way to follow J-artists to Pixiv just to pull art, even if behind a paywall, just to continue harassment. I didn't see any news of it in my searches (is my Duck-fu or Google-fu weak?), don't know how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised at this point.
as a latino american who LIVED all her life in latinoamerica (and still living here), i have something to say, no one here, NOT A SINGLE SOUL here, thinks that americans who descend from us are actuall latinos. Just to clarify, if you born or lived the most part of your life in USA, you are NOT latino, and no one in latam would never EVER think that you are an actuall latino, we dont care that your parents are from here, or the fact that they raised you with latinoamerican manners or culture, either if you can speak spanish YOU. ARE. NOT. LATINO. Ik that most of people who think this way, belong to twitter, but still wanted to talk abt this, no one here claims them as a "latino brother", their not.
As a Hispanic/latina AND an artist I love it I mean look at that, the colors are beautiful, the poses and the anatomy is so perfect, with that many people in one art work I wonder if they took hours on that, they should get more praise, God Bless them!!
As a Costa Rican, I apologized on Twitter for being too white for the "art police"'s taste. My children are even whiter than me and have blue eyes, where can I take them so they get their colors corrected? Thank you! I'll make everyone a deal: I'll stop using "gringo", if everyone stops using that offensive term that spells almost like "latino", but with an "x".
My best friend (who's Latino) actually messaged me the tweet complaining about the guy who said it was racist. We agreed that they were being even more racist than the art was and I left a comment on their posts about how it really didn't matter who the person drew them.
I'm latina and seeing these gringos trying do talk for us it's just enraging, we don't need them to "defend" us or something. I'm pretty sure if not all at least most of latinos don't care if the skin color of a character is lighter and throw a tantrum about it, cause it's just stupid. The japanese artist made a wonderful piece of art, and deserves all the love for that. I really hope those gringos that threw hate to the artist stay away from the internet and don't ever try to talk for us, cause latinos will not hesitate to put them in their place.
Bro, yo te llevo siguiendo desde hace mucho tiempo y es la primera vez que casi me muero de la risa, los gringos se quejan de un artista por hacer un fanart de una pelicula inspirada en algunas culturas latinoamericanas, y cuando nosotros mismos decimos que esta bien y que se callen la puta boca se hacen las victimas, honestamente ya nada me sorprende en esta vida XD.
As a latina… me encanta el dibujo mucho, y soy artista entonces reconozco cuanto trabajo para dibujarlo. Pero noooo por supuesto que Twitter se tiene que meter y ser “víctima” todo el tiempo.
I honestly think that other groups of people who are being represented in these artworks should call these people who attack the artist phobic you should start using the words that they use start making up phobic words. Start calling them a representationphobe start calling them race baiters or just start out right calling them racist because that's what it is. We need to stop sitting here and doing nothing about what's going on because it's only going to spread the more quiet we are about it we need to actually start fighting back using their logic against them so that they can see just how stupid it is.
@@icetweiz the point I'm trying to make here is that they use phob incorrectly and they call everything phobic so why don't we do the same thing to them? Start calling them phobic start calling them racist start calling them sexist just go absolutely nuts and start calling everything they do phobic and racist and sexist, they act really strong but on the inside they were very soft it will get to them. Maybe eventually they'll recognize how stupid it is and get red pilled
At a certain point I stopped putting color in my drawings for fear of being attacked in this way on social networks, until I saw the solution to all my problems, NON-HUMAN CHARACTERS! Doing anything that isn't a human gives me the freedom to color it however I want! And if I want to do something "humanly similar", there is always the moderately risky solution: anthropomorphic creatures.
They are racists the only thing they care about is somebody's skin color they don't care about your character they don't care about how you look they care about what the color of your skin is and whether you are accepted into society or not because of the color of your skin. If a white man draws an Asian then they will have a cow over that because it's a white guy representing another race of people, this is a common tactic used by racists to weed out anybody who isn't racist. And they genuinely believe that other races of people are inferior to white people and that white people need to protect and help these other groups because they are not strong enough or smart enough to protect themselves this is racism at its best.
What's with US Americans policing every corner of the internet, good lord. If they're not getting offended on the stead of actual minorities, it's some other dumb stuff. As an Asian living in Asia, quoting Philip DeFranco, "It's just white people sh*t" 😂
Woke US americans are like this... Actual sane people in america are honestly so done with these type of people and are so ashamed they're from the same country where these type of people are most abundant honestly... I know cuz I'm half american, and these people are so disgusting honestly
Hanging with the Asia side of the Internet on Discord, being in Australia & we're all naturally geographically close together, all having a good time talking anime, video games & life stuff. It's nice to see like minded individuals who take no sh*t from anyone. When an SJW Californian Yank comes in & lecture our cultures respectively, partically when one goes on how the word "cu*t' is offensive from my Australian culture, like mate, you're talking to an Aussie where that word is very socially acceptable here & they can't handle it, they get blasted & banned on the spot. 😆
"Saviors." I like that word. Everyone is trying to be wannabe saviors when it comes to their own reality and opinions, pressing them onto others as if they are helping a group/community.
man i feel bad for the jp artist. imagine being away for like 2 years and once you finally posted art after a long hiatus, people just shit on you for something so petty
Even if the artist purposefully changed the characters' skin color, it's their fanart, they can do whatever they want with what they're drawing. Art is freedom of expression.
"Gringo" is a catch-all term for foreigners. It tends to be applied more to Americans/Europeans than to other people from Latin America. Its a pretty informal term and sometimes, but not always, deprecating.
I’m Hispanic. I was born in the US but raised in Mexico most of my life that I know the traditions Mexicans do. When I was younger I was made fun of for not knowing how to pronounce things properly (since I still had an American accent) but I can heavily assure you that skin color in art would be the last thing Latinos actually care in art. Especially since they come in all skin tones, I have a brown tone while my parents and younger siblings are a clearer tone (they would get confused with a white person), I got my grandmother’s genes which involve skin tone. I’ll mention this since I draw things myself and I am genuinely scared of posting art of almost anything now. People tend to judge yet not take their own words, I’m surprised I’m saying this word but these Gringos have to learn to set a line. Nothing is enjoyable when they try to make it “politically correct” because it makes them look worse than what they’re trying to be seen as.
The poor artist, the sad thing is sometimes when this happens the artist had used the colour they got from the actual character in a screenshot from their game or show, and so they literally used the right colour but people need someone to bash
Im colombian and I absolutely love the art, it makes me feel so happy to have a work that represents our culture being appreciated by other ppl worldwide, specially japanese ppl we admire japanese ppl a whole lot so expect a whole lot of ppl mad for what they did to that artist, and Ima be honest most of the time I just go along w whitewashing discourse bc its not good at all to change a character skintone on purpose, but Im literally so tired of many ppl almost obligating artists to color pick skintones and basically the whole ass palette for their works to be morally correct, the art is heckin awesome and everything its in a lighter and more pastel palette and it fits so good, not to mention that all the skintones are correct on how the difference of the pastel tones effects it (which its just a rlly slight change, almost unnoticeable and most important, if they changed the skintone its not on purpose, its to match their palette) specially after they said they would be more careful when being told abt it respectfully
For those curious (like me lol), there's actually 3 posible origins of the word "Gringo". The first one is from a saying "hablar en griego" (speak in greek) wich was used for people that spoke in an unintelligible language and slowly turn into "hablar en gringo" (speak in gringo). The second one comes from the war between EEUU and Mexico, where american military used green uniforms, so the mexicans refer to them as "Los Green", and on the war they where shouted at them "green go home" on a moking manner (this is the most known one). And the third one comes from the word "Grysco", can't find much info on this one but that word basically refer to foreigners that don't speak spanish or speak it on a poorly way, and then turned into "Gringo". Sorry if this is poorly writen, but english is not my first language.
@@unknowing5818 I mean Human Rights is starting to become a mistake in some countries, I once saw a minister in asian country avoided death sentence from stealing Governmental Asset because of "Human Rights"
Man i am getting real tired of these Tweeters think they are speaking for me, someone who is part hispanic, and making these stupid complaints. The artwork this person did is amazing.
Artist here, this artist didn't color their skin too light....everything in the piece is a pastel like color so the way they color the skin would be ..well lighter. If they had made it too dark and "correct" it would mess with the values of the whole piece. Someone else has made a fantastic video on this and I'll link it if I find it, but dark skin color looks vastly different in different in different lighting, different color schemes, etc.
Also, when drawing fan art it’s kind of hard because sometimes people have a certain color palette they’re comfortable with such as mutes/neons etc.. So when trying to match the skin color of a character and also keep their style to match the background ( the color around the skin, so everything else ) can be harder for some artist to do and match each other. What I’m trying to say is that sometimes artist are use to drawing in certain shades, hues and pastels and this changes every color in images, so they can color pick the skin color but most of the time they fade and change that color to match the colors around it
Worst part is, they also said that latinos can't be white... And basically implied that they knew more about latinamerica than us latinos did.... Like, excuse me, what? I was born in latinamerica. I'm so white, some friends call me "clarita de huevo" which basically means egg whites.
"It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis
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Imagine artists retracting their apology and re-posting their art...
Just to mess with the haters...
@@hakimdhaou Wei?
Woke people: "We're protecting Latinos and feeling offended on their behalf!"
Latinos: "No you're not. There is nothing to be offended by here. Just stop. You're not helping us in anyway."
Woke people: "Shut up! You're an asshole! You're attacking me!" *starts crying*
Me: *_heh, pathetic._*
In all seriousness, these woke people really made my head to boiling up to highest point, even higher than the heat of the Sun. They never deserves a place in society if they're keeping with their childish behavior.
They cry out in pain as they strike you.
I can’t believe that people today are really sensitive.
This! Woke people need to go take a nap.
I'll never understand why they speak up for other races thinking they're doing something
As a Latino, I hate that the gringos pretend to be like our defenders, it's as if they think we are weak or something, the worst thing is that in the end they base themselves on stereotypes when criticizing that type of art, saying that its racist to add a white latino, when that argument is racist
Te comprendo amigo, estas situaciónes son horribles y me hace querer arrancarme los ojos de lo estúpida que puede ser la gente
They're not defenders, they're just THAT side of SJWs who think they're doing the "right" things just to seek validation from others and themselves without realizing the consequences, or even to build their own ego or attempt to paint themselves as "good" people when they're clearly not. Some of them also take advantage of their status and they think they can do whatever they want. Honestly though, they think they're doing the world a favor, but in reality they're the most selfish scumbags who often fall in irony and hipocrisy.
Imaginate que otroz weyes que se sientan tan entitulados que haveces los e cachado que elijan palbras suaves y alenten su forma de hablar. No mames wey, ni que fuera chango.
Casi usualmente encuentro ese tipo de gente siendo liberales hippies y tipo twittard, pero si hay otros que les vale mango, y nomas los invito por una chela y hablan como normal. ESO es mucho mejor.
Pero esque hay unos que se pasan de tarados y parece que no tienen neuronas, refiriéndome a los de Twitter para no meter a todos en el mismo saco. Lo peor es que cuando se trata de defenderse no se compara la efectividad entre el latino y el gringo promedio en cuanto a defendernos por cuenta propia
Bruh same Ñ
Reminds me how this artist that made a drawing of a light brown chubby girl with tribal tattoos.
And someome "fixed her art" by making the drawing of the girl be black, obese and took off her ink. Along with a message saying "Learn to draw proper diversity, also those tattoos were cultural appropriation."
That was a self portrait of the artist! Who just so happen to be native hawaiian!
Ah yes, woke people
Those people dont see their own hypocrisy
I wish they would stop trying to talk for other races. I am a Latina and it looks just FINE I quite like it! You can tell their style has a more pastel tone over it! Its very well done and they deserved praise over the garbage people who have nothing to do with it gave them.
They're the same people who make Encanto's movie about something that IT ISNT and THAT makes me more angry than an artist who colored the skin just a bit lighter than the original.
Careful now. They'll turn on you next for referring to yourself as latina rather than latinx.
@@Asertix357 Kebdekdheodhw yeah they might even call me a white knight for defending the artist 💀💀
This. I’m pretty sick of people dog piling artists just because they use different painting mediums or have a certain style.
I mean, you have to make slight alterations to darker shades/colours in order to fit within the pastel watercolour style or else it just doesn’t work out right. It’s clear what the artist’s intentions were here, people should just appreciate this gorgeous piece and stop creating unnecessary drama.
@@Asertix357 I'm Latino and I can say 100% of Latinos that are not American hate latinx has a label. Like 😐🤚
@@thehipsterhamster1929 I'm just waiting for the day these SJWs have the balls to tell latin people right to their face that they're being racist, transphobic, and countless other things for refusing the accept the latinx term.
As a Latina, I can’t understand these kind of people that pretend to tell me I don’t know what it’s like to be a Latina because my skin is different from what they think is normal in my country. Honestly sometimes they shouldn’t talk about what is “supposed” to be offensive for us.
-Claims they value diversity and multiculturalism.
-Hates it when a culture interprets another culture in their own medium, demands that the "perpetrators" adhere and stick to their own culture.
The absolute hypocrisy of Twitter irks me sometimes
I too hate it when twitter bends other people culture for the sake of fulfilling their fantasy about the ethnicity
There is no difference between Extreme Love and Extreme Hate, both end up harming everyone. This is what I have come in terms with
@@baligong3592 Extremism harms everything.
@@baligong3592 nice word, yeah agree, moderation is the key, even drinking mineral water too much can be poison and kill you
Got offended for being called “Gringo” but they call Latinos “Latinx”. What does that make them?
Hypocrites
Bueno hipocritas
what makes it worse is that latinx literally isn’t a word in the language
trying to say latinx in "latino" (accent?)" hurts my mouth
E no mamen quitaron mi comentario xd
Man, there’s nothing wrong with the art. Honestly, if the artist tried to use the original skin tones, it would have completely stand out like a sore thumb. It’s pastel art. Pastel art is more gentle, less saturation. Softer colours. If anything, the artist tried their best to compensate to the closest colours they can get. I’m pretty sure that should be easy to convey!
They complained without even going into the art in detail, bc they want to see the world burn.. as an artist that mainly draws in pastel colors/softer colors (i only use more saturation and bolder colors when im doing realism, but other than that, i use lighter ones bc i mainly use watercolor, and lighter colors are more fun to use lmao) when i make fanart of people of people color (fictional ones), i always use lighter skin tones because thats just how im most comfortable drawing, and the people i show my art to at school.. they dont give a shit lmao. They couldnt care less about the skin tones, they pay attention to the things that should matter, like colors/things affiliated with their cultures, not something so blatantly stereotypical and racist like what color a persons skin should be.. bc in all honesty, its those people who are racist, not the artists doing their best to represent them..
Never once have i been told 'o h... these skin tones are too light.. burn it, ass hole *middle finger*', like twitter does....
@@baka3262 they only care for the canon skin tones, just like how i post my art of my irl self which im muslim and tan aswell (indonesian btw) after posting it theres some excuses people saying "nooo indonesian people are black and muslim aswell!!" which litearlly disgusted me..
so i deleted twitter with better reputation and sanit with other social media.
edit: i deleted the twitter acc and post too so i dont want annyone to ask wheres my acc (and the event of that was only 3 people attacked me and im easily offended aswell)
The fact that people can’t tell the difference between white skin and a light tan and color palettes in general baffles me
EDIT wow thanks for all the thumbs up this is the most I’ve ever gotten lol
Or shading cast by light.
The company needs you to tell the difference between these 2 pictures
"White skin"
"Light tan"
Twitter police: they're the same picture
Because they try so hard to make things race related and anything that doesn’t fit in with that doesn’t exist
@@donovanhadley2209 correction
Twitter police: REEEEEEEEE
@@afterburnermosh racism keeps racism alive unfortunately and it gets brought into everything even when not needed😞
I'm actually latino and I don't understand the issue here about the character's skin tone. I ACTUALLY like the fan art, but Twitter being Twitter. As usual : /
Because the Twitter woke police don't really care for what or who they white knight for, they just want to feel superior to others people, look at what happened in the video they white knight over the art for the Latino community even though the Latino community loves the art and when Latinos called them out the Twitter woke police turned on the group they were white knighting because they didn't agree with them.
Racists doing what racists do best, calling other people racist.
The only thing i understand is that this "twitter police" just hate her/him because the skin color was incorrect (no tengo idea porque te hablo en ingles pero mejor asi para que los demas entiendan)
@@Nombrenooriginal the tactic that they are using is the person who made this artwork isn't in that group of people and so their artwork needs to be deleted or their account needs to be removed just to delete the representation of other races so when you really look at it with a logical point of view they are trying to weed out other races to make it predominantly white, so it's a racist tactic they're basically the KKK rebranded.
They want an all white Twitter if you post anything and you're not that group of people then your content will be removed and if you do draw artwork and you're in that group of people your stuff is not going to get much representation in the Twitter sphere it is going to be pushed aside and forgotten.
White supremacists use tactics of "anti-racism" to weed out anybody who dares represent another race of people you can only make white artwork because white people are superior.
@@stratejic1020 ironic, i saw a lot of racist post in twitter about "the white man"
As a Latino myself, I can’t bear to think what I’d do without the white, middle class, blue haired SJW’s on Twitter looking out for us 🙏
As a black american, bruh nothing is even wrong with the fanart its called lighting and color theory dawg
You are right . To be fair people gona be stupid no matter the skin color and that girl segacomissions now is playing the victim card
While its ok for them to blackwash anime and Japanese characters.. absurd
Another black American here, and agreed. This obsession w/ skin color while simultaneously trying to claim that we’re all equal sure is contradictory.
Agreed as a black american
Also agreed. As a black American, my skin tone doesn't look the same in different lightings. Twitter is wilding as usual.
As a *black* Latina, this whole issue has made me feel incredibly angry. It has been THREE times this year (yeah, barely January) where these Americans (all black, funnily enough) create a problem out of nothing, featuring Latinos ofc. First the Japanese artist, then the ''gringo is a racial slur'', and then the latest issue, when a Venezolana quoted someone else and accidentally said the hard N, and even though she didn't do it with bad intent, she was threatened, insulted and doxxed by them. I understand that's a slur, I understand a lot of people hate it, but that doesn't justify the bad treatment to her! She even said she was going to apologize until she got attacked.
Now all Latinos defending her, defending the seemingly ''whitewashing'' of the fanart and saying again and again that gringo is not a slur... are racist and ''anti-black''. Hell, an Afro-American said I hated my own heritage/blood because I was defending the girl.
I hate it A LOT. Please, do not bring your trauma to us, we know a word has no power and we know a drawing is a drawing.
I’m glad someone from the black community is speaking up about these issues.
It’s honestly more offensive to be offended on the behalf of other race than the targeted people.
I speak Chinese and there’s a filter word in Chinese that sound like the N word and often time I would be casually be talking to my family in Chinese and had to be stop by black people thinking we are saying the N word.
Most of them think they are the main characters in everyone’s story and like you said “create problems out of nothing “
In Mexico, that word isn't offensive. I've had a few black friends (yes there are black people in Mex) who called themselves that way. If those sjw saw this, they'd die from a heart attack
@@TCTCyou
It's sad that you have to be careful because in your language a word sound offensive
@@TCTCyou a lot of chinese words sound like nigga, it's hilarious. Also i'm a black american dude and it's really sad to see people call anything that offends them slurs
I'd like to apologize on behalf of all black Americans, im so sorry.
isn't it crazy how if twitter was deleted, world peace may be possible?
I'm Colombiana, all I see is gorgeous artwork. Those people attacking the artist would be surprised to see (if they went to Colombia, let alone outdoors) that we don't have a stereotypical look. We look all sorts of different ways. Also Gringo is usually used along the lines "aw look at the stupid American" but it depends on context, it can also be more lighthearted or definitely calling someone a "stupid foreigner" but in a pretty bad way. It really depends on the context. lol.
GUESS THEY DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED THINGS, BUT IT'S OKAY WHEN THEY DO IT, HUH?
I found out that the artist deleted the artwork, I'm really sad now :( we don't get artwork for Colombian characters/art too often, and now we get to get drowned out because Twitter demands everyone be a stereotype. I'm so disappointed.
Of course. It's twatter. What do you expect?
"GUESS THEY DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED THINGS, BUT IT'S OKAY WHEN THEY DO IT, HUH?"
Pretty much summarizes "woke" Twitter in a sentence.
They'll be surprised to find out other languages have certain terms to use for "foreigners." In my place we call them "bule" and it's not a slur at all, the word works like "gringos." The moment you're not a local and a foreigner, regardless what race and what not, we'll call you "bule." Even though it is mostly used towards westerners.
"Lmao itu bule gk bisa makan pake tangan"
Translate : lmao that foreigner/westerner can't eat with their hands.
YEAH, latino people don't have a standart look, there are stereotypes (wich are wrong as always) but we tend to vary a lot in skin tones, looks, complexion and all of that. so a slightly different skin tone is not even offensive. so these people trying to call out this beautiful artwork in defense of latinos is just annoying
Artists may be some of the most underappreciated people ever
And you’d be right. I stand by my fellow art comrades
We don’t talk about Twitter no no no. We don’t talk about Twitter
They are very dedicated people to make such amazing art, shame to see the infestation known as twitter harass people like this, they really are more primal than hillichurls
I wonder how piemon taste.
@@Hebiiiii1 *I understood that reference*
They even made fun of someone's dead pet
Truly disgusting
Im amazed by how there are some people actually on their side
"Gringo" is widely used as "foreigner". This can be either positive or negative, but usually neutral. Sometimes it's even used towards someone who looks like a foreigner or towards certain ethnic groups (for example, people with Italian ancestry in Southern Brazil).
Considering how insufferable Twitter idiots are, I understand why they would think it's a slur.
Real Latin Americans love every positive mention of our countries. It's random Americans/Canadians, who think they are Simón Bolívar because they eat Taco Bell, who go around pestering people to use "latinx" or other nonsense.
Gringo is an amazing word.
Twitter makes Zorak Ramone look like a hero
Twitter makes Zorak Ramone look like a hero
If there's one thing Latinos have is the balls to put the Twitter mob in check.
As someone with Italian ancestry from Southern Brazil, i had no idea we were considered gringos lol
I never thought of the term as a slur. We use the term "gringo" there a lot, though. For literally any foreign person. Some people say I'm white, some say I'm considered latina instead, now I have no idea what I am xD (I look white, though)
I feel bad for the artist. Their art is very beautiful. Hope they aren't demotivated by that experience
Oh no, they definitely are demotivated. Something similar happened to me once. I ended up deleting my account, and I stopped drawing for a week because I felt as if I was genuinely in the wrong,,, my friends helped me start again tho. (What happened was I drew tiana from princess and the frog, and they said I white washed her…. I was using a pastel color palette where all the colors were more dull. If anything, tiana’s skin tone was darker then it was lighter…)
Yeah, this is Twitter police burtality.
Imagine spending HOURS making a amazing art so gringos can hate on it for no reason. Must be so sad bruh
Rather than try to appreciate for the beautiful artwork for what it is they are policing about the skin color mainly and making it a race issue when it's not.
The one who always think about racial problems are the ones being racist themselves, a certain wise person once said.
This is just sad, seen many other artist being attacked in the same way when they post their art on the internet.
I'm a gringo and I think the art is beautiful.
These sjws need to be neuter.
How is that even possible..?
How can people be like that, idk if i should feel sad for their parents because their parents are probably the cause.
This reminds me of the time people “fixed” this south Asian character to be brown instead of light white skin like he originally was and brought it to me like “don’t you like that he looks like you now” and I was like ??? No? That is the same color of my mom. Why are you so pressed about people like her? 😭 skin color obsessed weirdos. I don’t get why they want to take a fat crap over anything nice. Are they jealous they can’t make anything? Sorry brown people come in variety of colors. 💀 and we certainly don’t want your idea of what we should be represented by. Light brown dark brown tan or white. Those are our people. At least for me I will always be represented by culture or ideals and not something as fickle as the exact shade person I am
Bro also Americans like to bastardize other language words for being anti black all the time why? Like bule? Bro? Not everything is about you specifically? You’re gonna say idiot is a racial slur next?
@@irltrap5615 question: what is bule?
@@Noone-wq8ml A slang that is similar to "Gringo" that just usually means "Foreigners" in Indonesia and is inoffensive generally in a day to day basis
@@horus4502 oh
Lmao i remember that, that 1 drama with black American in Bali that finally got deported. She & her minions tried so hard to make the Indonesian words "bule" & "ngga" as a slur towards black ppl. Like sis, not everything is abt u 💀
I’m asian and this is why I dont bother to even use Twitter. Like I notice, why is it always the asian artists they go after for “whitewashing” characters? Meanwhile they are ok with blackwashing anime characters which to some asians (usually the ones living outside asia) is OUR REPRESENTATION.
I'm southeast Asian and one person went after me before with "I didn't know xxx was white". I tried to be polite and explained that it looked darker in my laptop, and showed them the reference picture with strong lighting. They replied with a high and mighty with- "You shouldn't have used that as reference. Next time, it's better to color pick".
LIKE??? BRUH. ARE YOU THE ARTIST HERE??? I color pick when I want-! And no, they don't even do art.
@@TrinityBlackRoseV yeahh that too 😭 like irl lighting changes stuff!
Bruh
americans seem to not understand that asia is populated by people in the middle of the color spectrum than people at its extreme ends.
It's not only twitter things. There are the artists I've known on instagram drawing fanarts of anime and getting bash by woke mob said something like "asian people is not that white stop whitewashing the character" like BRUHHHH have they ever been to japan, china or s.korea??? Majority of those people's skin are fair asf, like almost resemble of paper.
I stop listening to someone when they say “ As a *insert thing here*. And these Twitter police are exactly why I say this.
It’s really funny how people try to act victim when they get called out for what they are doing like they didn’t just start that smh and get mad when someone gets back on them smh
Twitter is full of suprise
They are not just playing victim the usual way. This time they abused an artist while being angry on behalf of us Latin Americans.
We need to erase these activists.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo yep
Twitter is full of stupid.
Whenever people r start playing the victim, it makes me wanna treat them even more harsh instead of pitying them especially when i know that they realized they *cked up and don't want to apologize.
People are getting offended by the word “gringo” dude, imagine being offended when they say you are not from someone’s country
They're black, they get offended over every little word
@@parsleyisthicc what???
@@parsleyisthicc actually black Americans with they/ them in their bio.
@@parsleyisthicc i'm latino and i'm not black wtf is grong with You gringo?
@@parsleyisthicc and what with black people in USA OR EUROPE?
AAAA WELL BUT WHAT WITH WHITE PEOPLE IN LATIN AMÉRICA OR AFRICA???!?!!!
imagine spending days on a fanart, pouring your heart and soul, sweat and tears, and years of effort and talent into portraying characters you love...and then get accused by a random nobody of racism :)
I'm from Okinawa. What these weirdos don't seem to realize is that every ethnicity comes in many shades of skin tones. In my family alone there are people with very dark skin to very pale skin. Latinos also come in all shades as well. These gringos/gain need to calm their racist asses down and just enjoy fan art.
and their excuse of shades is litearlly annyoing aswell and giving the same proof over and over
im from brazil. Im white asf (my yt name doesnt have anything to do with it) and here there are people with all kinds of skin color and their family are native
i dont get why these twitter wierdos thinks we are all the same skin color when its the opposite of it
It seems to the terminally online anything lighter than actual tan coloring is offensive to them, meanwhile they are most likely pale white. I'm white and I can't stand these perpetually offended people. They can't just leave anything alone.
I was raised not to judge a person by the color of their skin but by their character. These people are obsessed with skin color. It’s sickens me.
@@white9763 me too and people at my school call me albino from how white i am (im not albino)
I’m Latino, and I thought it was fine? There is a clear pastel palette they are using, when you compare the skin color to actual irl realistic lighting or the actual movie’s lighting engine, then yeah it’ll look off. But thanks to the pastel and by comparing the various skin colors amongst the characters, it’s pretty on point. There was really no malice intent to this piece, no need to get mad. Shit technically by definition, I’m a “gringo” and I think this is stupid.
Ikr man it's the fucking palette. Artists straight up draw characters with oversaturated skin and no one complains because they know it's style.
And if you made them blacker than they actually are you wouldn't hear a peep out of their mouthes
That art is absolutely gorgeous! As a huge Encanto fan and an American I hope this artist knows I think it’s amazing and a beautiful representation of a very special movie!
Always call them out on their crap. Stand behind your artwork in every way y’all.
But be careful, because they may try to doxx you
This
@@MiltonGagliardi or just don’t get Twitter. 🤷🏼♀️
@@oh-noe I get that. I’m sayin to always be proud of the work you make and not be afraid to hold ppl accountable for the shizz they do.
This
If a group can speak then let them speak for themselves, don't try to speak on behalf of people who can talk.
Which is literally every group that isn't literal children. Which is what these Twatter psychopaths treat people like. Children. Any group. Any group they claim to like, they treat them like children. It's why they dial up the condescension to 900% whenever they find a trans person, gay person, or any racial minority who's a conservative, or disagrees with their agenda in any way. It's why they start slinging death threats whenever they find folks like Larry Elder and such.
@@AiluridaeAureus Yeah those types of white people don't need to step up every time latinos and latinas and other races have their own voices I myself am white and I feel ashamed when those types of white people acts like none of the races have their own voice
@@AiluridaeAureus It's called the white savior complex. It's a form of psychological projection to deflect their own racism at other people, while trying their damndest to pretend they're the "heroes of the opressed".
@@Marcelelias11 Preaching to the choir there, buddy. I've dealt with their lot before with their obsession with autism. They unironically think we're incapable of wiping our own asses.
Ian half Japanese half Mexican and I approve your art !!!!! The sjws need to stop putting their nose in something that don’t involve them
Yikes imagine pulling up the entire color palette when you don't even know how shading works
Twitter police are laughably stupid
Disgustingly stupid*
Disappointingly stupid*
Badly stupid*
Special kind of stupid*
Built stupid*
We need to reach out to the artist and urge them to put the art back up. It's beautiful, a wonderful tribute to an incredible movie, and if the haters want to hate, let them. It's their life to waste.
It's not that. The people harassing them are taking out their conditioning to fight a epic culture war off on them.
Sadly, I don't think the artist want to come back to Twitter. If they repost it again even if they limit the replies I'm certain they're going to be harassed again in the qrts.
@@cohorrescentcorporea It's a goddamn shame. I really hate how this is becoming a common occurrence...
no, ditch twitter. It should only survive as a containment zone for all these miserable people like how facebook has now become a containment zone for boomers.
@@Xo-3130 Then we need to go after them, individually, if need be.
I- the fan art looks exactly like the characters!!!! How do you think the skin is lighter
If "whitewashing" *coughlightingcough* is bad, then why are they allowed to basically, and quite literally, blackwash characters, as they literally change characters to black or dark skin tones all the time, and the people who do it are usually white.(This is not meant to sound racist, Ijust want to make a point, so I apologize in advance.)
Anyway, the artwork is great, these people are just being racist imo. Not the Latino's, but the ones harrassing the artist. I believe the only reason Gringo is seen as a "slur" is because sometimes, media uses it that way.
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@@CB7368 oh hey it's you again xD
Twitter isn't a website where common sense and consistency exists, the amount of double standard garbage Twitter participates in daily is enough to make one's skin crawl
@@icyatlasartworks true, that's why I stay as far away from that God awful website.
@@icyatlasartworks that's why I've never bothered to make an account for it
Something that americans don't seem to understand is the big cultural gap between americans and latinos. I'm latina, I understand how our way of being works. We don't get that easily offended, we like dark humour, we make fun of eachother between countries; things like calling argentinos “narizones”(which refers to them having big noses, a very common stereotype)or calling venezolanos “skeletons” is a very common thing on memes and jokes; almost nobody gets offended at this, because we know is a joke.
From my experience with the english speaking side of the internet tho, I've notice people are waaaaayyyy more sensitive in every aspect. People are kinda obsessed with representation in media in my opinion, and in the opinion of many other latinos. It already happened when they were forcing “latinxs” and “latines” down our throaths just so they could have “representation” of the non-binary latino community, without even trying to understand our language and acknowledging “latino” was already a gender neutral word(btw, never use “latinx/latine, people get really pissed at this, even the actual non-binary latinamerican community).
Now it's happening again with this whole “whitewashing” deal, some even saying white latinos aren't real latinos and only colored colombian latinos need representation. I even saw someone saying “latinos can't identify whitewashing because they haven't experienced real racism”.
We're all tired of americans trying to speak for us, and right now theres a big protest against this on twitter with the hashtag shutupgringo2022. Every country has joined to hopefully teach twitter police a lesson, so if you're on with this cause, it could be very useful if you help bring this protest to americans to defeat all 14 years old white girls on twitter(lol).
Latinamericans have more things to cry about than representation in media. I talk for almost every latino when I say WE DON'T CARE. We don't care about being represented in american media, we don't care about having pronouns for every gender, we don't care if they get a fictional character's colors right, we don't care about having a sexuality for everything. We have hunger, we have natural disasters, we have unemployment. We even struggle to get money for college. Our countries aren't all just dancing salsa, we have REAL problems to solve, not just average twitter problems about someone making a character a white, straight man.
Narizona inflación maradona here, couldn't agree more. I don't understand Americans and at this point I don't want to. It feels like they're always celebrating the teeny tiny effort that is posting something on twitter, and calling it a righteous war for diversity. That's so, so lazy... Jesus I would be ashamed of calling myself a fighter/activist. I would practically feel my ancestors coming down in a row to slap me.
@@mustbetheSUN Its because white ppl are feeling a need to be POC "Savior" because they are privileged. And the POC who are trying to be a "savior" have been told by them that they are victims and should help other victims
I think there's a lot of people who secretly think Latinx is stupid but won't say it irl to many people because of the backlash (those who aren't Latin American I mean). Many of the people I've met in college don't exactly agree with it, especially those who have learned Spanish or speak it.
As a non-binary latinamerican i can confirm that indeed, the latinx thing pisses me off like you have no idea. Even though I hate with all my soul the amount of hate we got from other latinamericans I just can't support that word no matter if it was made with us in mind. I kinda support "latine" but only if it's to refer a group of non-binary people or an enby person, but when it's about a group with mixed genders the inclusive word will always be latinos
Yep i'm from venezuela and i've never been offended by the skeleton joke lmao
Even though I'm an Asian, I feel for y'all Latinos.
Pretty sure that some artists got "called out" for coloring Asians white-ish and not yellow.
Bruh, some of us are even whiter than some whites.
Little tidbit of info to tell future artists who are being harassed on twitter; Tell them: Don't delete it, those losers throwing a temper tantrum mean nothing to no one. They are less than nothing.
Those kiddos deserves to be thrown into kindergarten class once again so they could learn how to draw.
I'm sure just working with your art sensei is very important practice make perfect fixed drawing by yourself do my best myself.
Maybe i should do it...make a dark skinned character look lighter (no not without reasons but these people cant seem to gather that skins look different in different light, and how it harmonize differently when there are tints to it, blue tint makes everything looks a bit bluish so it harmonize and looked better to the eyes)
@@yuki97kira of course just do it i saw so many Anime characters with dark skinned.
Ur so aggresive lmao
For those of you that are wondering. The word "Gringo" comes from the phrase "the ones dressed in green are going away" is a mashup of "green" and "goes away". It was used in countries that were briefly occupied by the US, since they had green uniforms.
It's also funny *and slightly related* that green has connotations with pale.
I.e. white grapes which makes *white* wine. But the grapes are like _obviously green_ but they're also still called pale grapes.
(This was explained to me by my Latino friend. It slayed me to learn the etymology.)
Smells like bullshit to me. Like the Fornication Under Consent of the King, and switch no thicker than your thumb.
@@PhotriusPyrelus I thought your username was Perry the Platypus until I put on my glasses
This is just folk etymology, the word has been in use well before the united states was even a country. It most likely derived from a slang word meaning "greek", since for a time greek was the lingua franca of the Mediterranean for commerce, so most iberians just assumed whatever foreign language they heard must be greek. This is why the word "gringo" evolved to have different meanings and connotations in different countries, while in Mexico it's mainly used to refer to anglo North Americans, in Brazil it just means foreigner or outsider.
There are other theories but this is the one I think is more plausible because "griego" doesn't sound too far off from "gringo"
@@Monkeywe There are many theories as to the origin of the word gringo. The popularity of each etymological theory does not necessarily reflect its plausibility. Just because you believe one specific theory, doesn't mean every other is automatically incorrect. Nonetheless, there is no "correct" origin of the word. Tho the main things people agree on is that it's not a slur, and it is mainly used on Americans. The word itself has tied heavily to the different cultures that have adapted it throughout the years, and I personally find it very interesting to see the many explanations others have for it.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
― C. S. Lewis
as an brazilian man myself the meaning of gringo is literally anyone who the first language is english, even canadians, this is such a excuse to just walk way of the problem
quem é europeu também, a gente só n usa mt gringo pro pessoal q é da america latina
Mano, eu chamo canadense e estadunidense de gringo e quando é alguém da América Latina, eu chamo de hermano ou hermana.
Im seriously sick with this “too light” thing there’s never been a rule that fanarts have to be the exact same color palette
Yeah! Most of the Twitter users are kinda stupid and make Caboose or science deniers look smart in comparison (If you watch Red Vs Blue this will make more sense)
Isn’t it kind of racist to assume all Latinos have to be dark?? I’m Cuban and I can’t even count the amount of times people said I was too white to be Cuban.
Bullies always play the victim when they're called out
It’s a pathetic repetitive cycle
they are a bit lighter, but having a lighter character and not taking away their culture isnt as bad as people make it out to be. people with darker skin tones get lighter in the winter with staying inside.
I'm native american and pale white
It's definitely the case for people who don't leave their homes like myself. I've gotten alot more pale than my light brown color before the pandemic
@@omegasizednuts same!! used to super tan now I'm lighter than most of my fully white friends
I'm at least 1/4 native and pretty tan. Still called white by most, but that doesn't bother me too much. I know the truth.
@@kobayashibrynhild9622 I'm half! haha
guess it's because I have my mom's white features but my dad's hair and skin tone
I hope you embrace your culture!
Exactly I'm Filipino and I used to have very brown skin but because my skin has barely seen the sun in the past 2 years I look much lighter my skin isn't exactly pale but it's kinda a yellowish light brown kinda color
I do wish the artist just responded with "cry more". its such a shame he/she got bullied over this. it's a great picture. What a fucking mood killer, to express your art and be bashed for it for such stupid shit
These type of people aren’t “deFenDing”. They’re just putting artists down.
Mexican American here, the art looks amazing. The skin tone is perfectly fine. I'm pretty much the same shade.
There's nothing wrong with this art.
Mexican american here too! I'm also the same shade i think it's crazy ppl try to put Mexicans in this only can be dark skim category
Some people don't have life so they're just makeing useless drama
Yes I’m also one. also at 0:49 that statement is kind of ignorant since Latinos can be born in the US making us first gen Hispanic-Americans
Same
Hey me too! I'm a white skinned Mexican and the looks I got when I said I was Mexican XD
And yeah I agree! That fanart is gorgeous, wish I could color like that.
As a fellow Latino, I hereby dislike woke people with my life.
From the title, I really hate when people actually try to play victim after they didn’t just start something like bruh
@Timi Ayeni
From my experience this is how some bullies operate. They poke and prod, and when you retaliate, they play victim.
Makoto and Houna, Roune: We don't talk about it twatter, no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Because the japanese can draw, they get screeched on?
Why?
And latinos have all the skin tones, my brother got my dad's dark skin, me and my sister got my mom's light skin. They are both of my parents are mexican
Now a days if someone gona get offended they probably gona use that excuse
Holy this encanto fanart is so amazing. It’s so beautifully drawn
I'm Colombian, the characters are Colombian, I liked that art... it's awesome! And just like you said, we use the word "gringo" referring to any American person, we don't care about skin color, that's just bs
I saw a comment on a video about whitewashing, saying that EVEN drawings of mid/dark skin characters in a pastel tone is "harmful" and WHITEWASHING. Now isn't that stupid????
Also, some "people" tried to scare a girl who called them out on their shit saying they would doxx her
Not surprised
"people" lmaoooo
As someone who uses their actual name for their username, I am unafraid of doxxing. Plus, I live in the middle of nowhere.
@@JensMorrison same. Why do they think doxxing anyone outside of the united state gonna do anything?
"What are you gonna do? Send me my coordinates and my adress? I already know this information, thank you"
lol I’m Latino and I think the art looks beautiful, If your an inspiring Japanese artist never use Twitter.
Meanwhile, we Asians have to put up with Black Artists Blackwashing Asian Characters with Brown/Tanned skin. LIKE BRUH, NOT ALL BROWN PEOPLE ARE AFRICANS. WE ASIANS ARE WHITE AND BROWN AND SOMETIMES BLACK BUT NOT AFRICAN.
I don't know if you're trying to speak for all Asians but artists are allowed to create their characters in whatever color they like. It is their version or their rendition of the content. You are not being forced to put up with it because you have the choice to disregard it and lay your attentions elsewhere. And I think it's pretty common knowledge that not all brown people are Africans and that Asians can be white, tan, or brown.
I'm Brazilian. "Gringo" is NOT a slur. This is the first time I've seen someone say it is
Thinking gringo is a slur is the most gringo thing.
Gringo is a funny word dude 😂
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Oh hello my fellow gringooOos
gringo in brazil means that they are foreigner. If im corect, it means "north american" and "european" on the other countries from south america
the amount of shit artists on twitter go through:
people reposting their stuff when the artist's specifically have in their bios to not repost (but people still do it and dont give the artist credit)
artist's who ARE okay with reposts but the reposters are too lazy to leave the artist's name in the repost
assholes asking for free artwork and then when they dont get what they want they say the artist's work is, "shit, you charge too much, no one likes your garbage work anyway"
telling the artist their art is wrong, (skin color is wrong) and they should be "ashamed" for insulting [insert minority group], when said people from minority group are also in the comment section appreciating the artwork.
I guarantee almost all of them have "acab" and "blm" in their bios but damn do they love the power trip of policing twitter and telling POC (after "advocating" for something that didn't bother them) they don't know what they want.
I probably will sound " uneducated" by the wackos standards but...what in the ever loving soggy sausage is acab?
@@ul8532 (soggy sausage, I love that xD) No worries! ACAB stands for, "All Cops Are B*stards" because in America (and some other places) some people think it's "cool" to constantly say, "all cops are evil and racist."
@@Notoriouslydevious there is no words in all languages alive and dead that can express the massive dumbfounded feeling my face is expressing, but knowing all the stupid things they do I'm not suprised to picture them yelling that and when tragedy comes expects the same cops to "fix" the problem 🤦🏻♀️.
The worst are the ppl that keep reposting the artist who doesnt allow repost, AND try to shame them along the way & highkey try to get them harassed. Like *post the art* "Oh but the artist ships xxx plz dont support this artist uwu uwu" "SaDLy tHe ArTIst LiKes XXX, Why is it aLwAys the GoOd ArtIst"
Like, so whats ur point on sharing their arts, b**ches? The play pretend 💀
And one most recent thing: Art being stolen to be sold as NFTs
Why is it always some losers on twitter messing with japanese artists, I'm so sick of that crowd.
I’m a mix of latino-hispanic and black-american, and all I can say is that I lowkey want more whitewashing fanart just to trigger these twitter users. The characters aren’t even real, they have no feelings and the twitter users that “take offense” to it simply want something to complain about rather than to actually try to change the world into something positive. Every time I see a fan-art on a fictional character who’s skin color got slightly lighter; I never notice anything, until these “woke” people point it out and then discard every single effort put into the art.... over a fucking skin color.
So at this point I’m done trying to keep my sanity in check and i’m done trying to stay neutral; artists, go on and “whitewash” characters. Either ways, these “woke” people love black washing asian and caucasian (simpler words: white people) characters but don’t seem to be bothered by it, if they aren’t bothered by their black washing then they shouldn’t be bothered by someone’s “white washing”, right? That’s called equality, isn’t it?
And i’ve noticed that literally *ALL* artists that draw these characters a little bit lighter are all Japanese, they have no ill intent nor can they understand the mindset that this foreign society has, but these “woke” people don’t even try to sympathize with them; they just go on and accuse them of a million things that aren’t true at all and try to come up with a cheap excuse for their passive aggressive toxicity or just straight up toxicity.
Jesus, can we all just not give af about the skin color on fictional characters? I wish I could just return back to the time where my mindset saw every fanart as beautiful and that any time I saw a drawing with the skin color slightly lighter I didn’t have to be reminded of the term “whitewash” nor the toxic people who use it. Actually why can’t we all return back to the time where we all didn’t care about such irrelevant details on a drawing and praise them all for the great effort put into them?
(This is very damn long, but if you have the attention span and time to do so, please read what’s below)
Edit: Let me clarify that when I mean to go on and whitewash I only mean it with the sole purpose of producing art and with the purpose of getting these twitter users mad. Do not whitewash with the intent to actually be racist, like for example: Some dumbass decides to take my words out of context to shape it into a different meaning that benefits their acts and decides to make/edit someone white but not to get twitter users mad or for art but to use that art/image to engage in racist acts, like if you grabbed an image of George Floyd and colored him white to then go on and use that image as a symbol for a campaign with the purpose of (for example) returning black people to slavery times or whatnot, doing that is not the same as drawing a fictional character and making him a bit lighter just for the sake of art or grabbing a character and making him light only to make sensitive people mad and not for anything more than that.
Here’s the thing: these twitter users have a point but they’re taking it too far/they don’t understand when its actually valid to call an act ‘racist’ so they go on and call everything racist and then proceed to use their minority and victimization status to unjustly call any act that is obviously not it - ‘racist’ or ‘offensive’ just for the sake of having to feel a sense of superiority or validation when in reality they’re making things worse for everyone and for themselves. Because once people experience your unjust/toxic acts enough times they’ll eventually get sick of it and hate on you, which then leads to a form of PTSD (I think it’s called something else, I’m not sure) that whatever symbol or person that looks/acts like you will trigger them and might either cause more violence or more division between people. So thanks twitter users! You’re very smart.
I've seen an artist get a lot of hate over their kaeya fanart... they kept adjusting the skin color and just got more hate and was told it didn't look right, until they just went and deleted it
white washing? dont forget blackwashing japanese I cant count how many times they try to fix japanese characters in anime by makeing them black ( and im not talking tan here I mean actual black) -_- just please stop.
I agree with you 100% twitter artists can go blackwash fictional characters and im pretty sure if most of the non-woke Twitter community knew the reasoning behind it, they'd support it as well lmao. These woke, problematic c h i l d r e n (sad thing is they probably older than me) complaining about everything that shouldn't even be complained about. Not them thinking if they complain the world will magically change to benefit their own views. Not even thinking about the consequences of their actions or what they say, bc they only want to benefit themselves or feel relevant (by being offended on behalf of someone else, they validate their own signifance), i highly doubt woke twitter even care about the community theyre being offended for, bc if they genuinly did theyd empathize with their situations but they dont..
If they want change in the world then they should change it, not going on twitter, claiming offense and then not even providing any reason in detail. If they want equality, or representation, these people should appreciate acts of representation, like this fan art made by a japanese artist, instead of literally attacking these people who are genuinely trying...
yes these people are woke but at what cost? they sacrificed their own common sense and human decency to be, and once again im glad i dont associate with them
reason # (i lost track): of why I hate my generation
Ironically, focusing on characters skin color don't fix the problem, actually it makes it worse
I’m literally 1 dumb Twitter outrage away from making a fan film where I , a white girl, play Rosa parks. I’m so done with these people
I love how technically by trying to speak in behalf of a race or a sexuality twitter effectively opposes them so its ironic to see their sad attempts at trying to cancel people
well said Karyl
exactly cat person
If people spent half of the time that they spend trying to undermine others, trying to create something... we would live in an incredibly beautiful world.
Tell that to the people who spent 10k dollars for a picture of a Monkey
@@agentdon1760 LMAO RIGHT?
One thing I can say from being a Latina is that we do not tend to get mad at people who are interested in our culture or things like that. 🤷♀️ if someone dresses in traditional clothing of ours or things that remind people of us the reaction is “ oh my god look how cool they look” because it makes us feel included and appreciated that someone took the time to learn and like things that we grew up with or are apart of 🤷♀️
if the greatest artists of all time like Leonardo da Vinci , Picasso etc were alive at this time ..
they would just be cancelled for like everything
people are just dumb these days
they only need to point out unnecessary things
I never saw the movie but did hear about it.
The artists did nothing wrong I may not be latino but I’m standing right along side the artists.
I can’t stand Twitter any longer.
You know, maybe i do need to go watch this movie now. I've heard about it for months now, but never really felt any interest.
I Highly recommend it
The artist use a pastel color palett thats why it looks like that, all the colors are a bit lighter
I recommend these Japanese artist go on Discord and just abandon Twitter that website is just nothing but pure hatred and is a reason why I will never go on that website. Quite frankly I think that website needs to shut down.
Mostly some of these japanese artist go to Pixiv to post their art ., Which is nice since I don’t see many english speaking people there ..
@@Seri-Chama _"Which is nice since I don’t see many english speaking people there"_
I heard/read once that some Leftists actually went out of their way to follow J-artists to Pixiv just to pull art, even if behind a paywall, just to continue harassment. I didn't see any news of it in my searches (is my Duck-fu or Google-fu weak?), don't know how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised at this point.
as a latino american who LIVED all her life in latinoamerica (and still living here), i have something to say, no one here, NOT A SINGLE SOUL here, thinks that americans who descend from us are actuall latinos. Just to clarify, if you born or lived the most part of your life in USA, you are NOT latino, and no one in latam would never EVER think that you are an actuall latino, we dont care that your parents are from here, or the fact that they raised you with latinoamerican manners or culture, either if you can speak spanish YOU. ARE. NOT. LATINO.
Ik that most of people who think this way, belong to twitter, but still wanted to talk abt this, no one here claims them as a "latino brother", their not.
As a Hispanic/latina AND an artist I love it I mean look at that, the colors are beautiful, the poses and the anatomy is so perfect, with that many people in one art work I wonder if they took hours on that, they should get more praise, God Bless them!!
As a Costa Rican, I apologized on Twitter for being too white for the "art police"'s taste. My children are even whiter than me and have blue eyes, where can I take them so they get their colors corrected? Thank you!
I'll make everyone a deal: I'll stop using "gringo", if everyone stops using that offensive term that spells almost like "latino", but with an "x".
My best friend (who's Latino) actually messaged me the tweet complaining about the guy who said it was racist. We agreed that they were being even more racist than the art was and I left a comment on their posts about how it really didn't matter who the person drew them.
I really wish they should stop speaking for other people.
Their artwork is beautiful.
I dont see anything wrong with it let alone the coloring.
I'm latina and seeing these gringos trying do talk for us it's just enraging, we don't need them to "defend" us or something. I'm pretty sure if not all at least most of latinos don't care if the skin color of a character is lighter and throw a tantrum about it, cause it's just stupid. The japanese artist made a wonderful piece of art, and deserves all the love for that. I really hope those gringos that threw hate to the artist stay away from the internet and don't ever try to talk for us, cause latinos will not hesitate to put them in their place.
Gracias and thanks for covering this. Doing a difference over here!
Bro, yo te llevo siguiendo desde hace mucho tiempo y es la primera vez que casi me muero de la risa, los gringos se quejan de un artista por hacer un fanart de una pelicula inspirada en algunas culturas latinoamericanas, y cuando nosotros mismos decimos que esta bien y que se callen la puta boca se hacen las victimas, honestamente ya nada me sorprende en esta vida XD.
White gringos: "This is offensive to Latinos, they are being misrepresented!!!"
Actual Latinos: "No, we're not."
White gringos: "stfu racist lmao"
@@Marcelelias11 Imagine being offended on behalf of someone else. I swear this people don´t have a life lol
As a latina… me encanta el dibujo mucho, y soy artista entonces reconozco cuanto trabajo para dibujarlo. Pero noooo por supuesto que Twitter se tiene que meter y ser “víctima” todo el tiempo.
I honestly think that other groups of people who are being represented in these artworks should call these people who attack the artist phobic you should start using the words that they use start making up phobic words.
Start calling them a representationphobe start calling them race baiters or just start out right calling them racist because that's what it is.
We need to stop sitting here and doing nothing about what's going on because it's only going to spread the more quiet we are about it we need to actually start fighting back using their logic against them so that they can see just how stupid it is.
Genius
@@ItsJustaMeNow because you are too soft, to beat messed up people you have to be messed up in the head yourself
@@ItsJustaMeNow also you would need more patience to deal with people like these
Remember when phobe/phobia was a greek word for Fear
@@icetweiz the point I'm trying to make here is that they use phob incorrectly and they call everything phobic so why don't we do the same thing to them?
Start calling them phobic start calling them racist start calling them sexist just go absolutely nuts and start calling everything they do phobic and racist and sexist, they act really strong but on the inside they were very soft it will get to them.
Maybe eventually they'll recognize how stupid it is and get red pilled
At a certain point I stopped putting color in my drawings for fear of being attacked in this way on social networks, until I saw the solution to all my problems, NON-HUMAN CHARACTERS!
Doing anything that isn't a human gives me the freedom to color it however I want! And if I want to do something "humanly similar", there is always the moderately risky solution: anthropomorphic creatures.
That artwork is amazing and beautiful. why tf would they hate this through fricking skin color.
They are racists the only thing they care about is somebody's skin color they don't care about your character they don't care about how you look they care about what the color of your skin is and whether you are accepted into society or not because of the color of your skin.
If a white man draws an Asian then they will have a cow over that because it's a white guy representing another race of people, this is a common tactic used by racists to weed out anybody who isn't racist.
And they genuinely believe that other races of people are inferior to white people and that white people need to protect and help these other groups because they are not strong enough or smart enough to protect themselves this is racism at its best.
What's with US Americans policing every corner of the internet, good lord. If they're not getting offended on the stead of actual minorities, it's some other dumb stuff.
As an Asian living in Asia, quoting Philip DeFranco, "It's just white people sh*t" 😂
Woke US americans are like this...
Actual sane people in america are honestly so done with these type of people and are so ashamed they're from the same country where these type of people are most abundant honestly... I know cuz I'm half american, and these people are so disgusting honestly
@@cosmicflower5891 my condolences
Hanging with the Asia side of the Internet on Discord, being in Australia & we're all naturally geographically close together, all having a good time talking anime, video games & life stuff. It's nice to see like minded individuals who take no sh*t from anyone. When an SJW Californian Yank comes in & lecture our cultures respectively, partically when one goes on how the word "cu*t' is offensive from my Australian culture, like mate, you're talking to an Aussie where that word is very socially acceptable here & they can't handle it, they get blasted & banned on the spot. 😆
"Saviors." I like that word. Everyone is trying to be wannabe saviors when it comes to their own reality and opinions, pressing them onto others as if they are helping a group/community.
man i feel bad for the jp artist. imagine being away for like 2 years and once you finally posted art after a long hiatus, people just shit on you for something so petty
“I am anti-racist!”
Also: “So here’s my skin color graph…”
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🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
Yuppppp the self projecting is insane.
this reminds me of that family guy episode where the cops were checking peter and they had a color graph that went from light to dark 😂
Serpiente con sombrerito :uuu
@@FriedRice3519 a el meme,si ya lo vi xd
Even if the artist purposefully changed the characters' skin color, it's their fanart, they can do whatever they want with what they're drawing. Art is freedom of expression.
You can literally hear the disappointment in hero hei's voice, he's losing it with these people lol
I agree
I agree
I agree
@@Editori_ exaclty
I agree
"Gringo" is a catch-all term for foreigners. It tends to be applied more to Americans/Europeans than to other people from Latin America. Its a pretty informal term and sometimes, but not always, deprecating.
I’m Hispanic. I was born in the US but raised in Mexico most of my life that I know the traditions Mexicans do. When I was younger I was made fun of for not knowing how to pronounce things properly (since I still had an American accent) but I can heavily assure you that skin color in art would be the last thing Latinos actually care in art. Especially since they come in all skin tones, I have a brown tone while my parents and younger siblings are a clearer tone (they would get confused with a white person), I got my grandmother’s genes which involve skin tone.
I’ll mention this since I draw things myself and I am genuinely scared of posting art of almost anything now. People tend to judge yet not take their own words, I’m surprised I’m saying this word but these Gringos have to learn to set a line. Nothing is enjoyable when they try to make it “politically correct” because it makes them look worse than what they’re trying to be seen as.
It just confirms what I always thought and said.
For every community, the American counterpart is the worst and most bigoted version of it.
The poor artist, the sad thing is sometimes when this happens the artist had used the colour they got from the actual character in a screenshot from their game or show, and so they literally used the right colour but people need someone to bash
Im colombian and I absolutely love the art, it makes me feel so happy to have a work that represents our culture being appreciated by other ppl worldwide, specially japanese ppl we admire japanese ppl a whole lot so expect a whole lot of ppl mad for what they did to that artist, and Ima be honest most of the time I just go along w whitewashing discourse bc its not good at all to change a character skintone on purpose, but Im literally so tired of many ppl almost obligating artists to color pick skintones and basically the whole ass palette for their works to be morally correct, the art is heckin awesome and everything its in a lighter and more pastel palette and it fits so good, not to mention that all the skintones are correct on how the difference of the pastel tones effects it (which its just a rlly slight change, almost unnoticeable and most important, if they changed the skintone its not on purpose, its to match their palette) specially after they said they would be more careful when being told abt it respectfully
For those curious (like me lol), there's actually 3 posible origins of the word "Gringo".
The first one is from a saying "hablar en griego" (speak in greek) wich was used for people that spoke in an unintelligible language and slowly turn into "hablar en gringo" (speak in gringo).
The second one comes from the war between EEUU and Mexico, where american military used green uniforms, so the mexicans refer to them as "Los Green", and on the war they where shouted at them "green go home" on a moking manner (this is the most known one).
And the third one comes from the word "Grysco", can't find much info on this one but that word basically refer to foreigners that don't speak spanish or speak it on a poorly way, and then turned into "Gringo".
Sorry if this is poorly writen, but english is not my first language.
In my opinion, some people on Twitter shouldn’t have free speech. These Twitter police are getting out of hand
I guess this is the reason why Socrates hates democracy
Unfortunately limiting people of the their free speech right is fascist and people just have to accept their opinions no matter how idiotic they are.
you are basically acting like them if that is how you think.
@@unknowing5818 I mean Human Rights is starting to become a mistake in some countries, I once saw a minister in asian country avoided death sentence from stealing Governmental Asset because of "Human Rights"
Man i am getting real tired of these Tweeters think they are speaking for me, someone who is part hispanic, and making these stupid complaints. The artwork this person did is amazing.
The last time an artist was harassed, about 70 million people died
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Artist here, this artist didn't color their skin too light....everything in the piece is a pastel like color so the way they color the skin would be ..well lighter. If they had made it too dark and "correct" it would mess with the values of the whole piece. Someone else has made a fantastic video on this and I'll link it if I find it, but dark skin color looks vastly different in different in different lighting, different color schemes, etc.
If this artist was trying to make them white, you would DEFINITELY be able to tell, lol
Also, when drawing fan art it’s kind of hard because sometimes people have a certain color palette they’re comfortable with such as mutes/neons etc..
So when trying to match the skin color of a character and also keep their style to match the background ( the color around the skin, so everything else ) can be harder for some artist to do and match each other.
What I’m trying to say is that sometimes artist are use to drawing in certain shades, hues and pastels and this changes every color in images, so they can color pick the skin color but most of the time they fade and change that color to match the colors around it
Worst part is, they also said that latinos can't be white... And basically implied that they knew more about latinamerica than us latinos did.... Like, excuse me, what? I was born in latinamerica. I'm so white, some friends call me "clarita de huevo" which basically means egg whites.
Clarita de huevo xdx
@@momoko6917 si xd
"It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
- C.S. Lewis