Would love Gruden. By all accounts, He's A relentless worker. If you look at his coaching tree, it includes the likes of Mike Tomlin, Sean McVay and Kyle shanahan. When the buccaneers traded for him, it left them with little draft Capital and a high salary cap, which I think led to their long-term decline, although he did win a super bowl. He also got the most out of Rich Gannon and Derek Carr.
I agree, they need to hire the GM first & involve the GM in the search for a coach. They need to have the coach report to the GM and not to the owner. The GM should be responsible for evaluating the performance of the coaching staff, not the owner. This year one should assume that JD should have known that Saleh was the brain behind the defense and therefore would not have let him go mid season leaving Ulbrich as head coach. Did JD know this? Did Johnson talk to JD before firing Saleh? My guess is Johnson didn't consult JD before firing Saleh. This is the heart of the Jets problem. The owner has to be willing to hand the responsibility of judging the coaching to the GM and have only the GM report to Johnson. WOODY STAY OUT OF DIRECT INVOVEMENT IN JUDGING THE COACHING!!!!! IF YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THE FIELD YOU DON'T LIKE, TALK TO THE GM ABOUT IT. YOU THEN JUDGE THE GM BY WHAT HE SAYS AND THE RESUTS ON THE FIELD PLUS THE DRAFTING & FREE AGENT RESULTS.!!!!
Yeah it would make sense. If we’re interviewing old guys like Rex and Ron let’s give Jon a go. At least Gruden has a storied CV rife with success unlike the other two. And Gruden is a genius, listen to the guy talk about football, concepts and schemes he’s a maniac and he’s built to withstand NY.
Gruden would be great. Been saying it. That said, I doubt clueless marketing Jets president Hymie who makes these decisions would allow it. Gruden loves the Jets too.
Gruden would not be great. Tampa won the SB in his first season there. Then Gruden had two losing seasons. Had a .500 percent with the Raiders before he got into trouble with the league. Jets would be wise to stay far away from him.
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Did you see that Joe Douglas was offered an extension, and he turned it down. When its all said and done. Im sure there are going to be a ton of moves JD got overruled on by Johnson and Son.
Just stop! Joe Douglas was terrible outside of 2022! And picking at #4 & #10 was tough to screw up! People watching the draft wanted the same players in those spots during polls!
@jetsterable You mean like how everyone wanted Zack wilson in those same polls. How many times can you say a Jets GM left and we still had a ton of talent on the team. I guarantee his hand have been tied more than has let on
Gruden has a chip on his shoulder and if he gets back in the league he wants payback. Remember the 85 bears they were like 2 different teams. Imagine Rex defensive coordinator then Gruden as offensive coordinator and Vrabel as head coach lol
How long do Jets have to wait to interview candidates who are currently employed by playoff teams? Breece looks slow this yr - watch any other RB when they take the hand off and accelerate,, seems like it takes BH more time to hit the hole, just an observation
Happy New Year BJF, may 2025 be a good year for you and your family. Gruden had two consecutive losing seasons in Tampa after winning the SB. His teams were the first to have two consecutive losing seasons after winning the SB. He didn't do good with the Raiders. .500 record with Raiders. Don't want to hire someone based on one winning season, even if they won the SB. McCord you could probably get in a later round. Kingsbury as Jets HC? Don't think we are ready for an Air Raid Offense. Jets don't need a top fifteen QB. Didn't Ravens win the SB with Dilfer at QB? Dilfer was a mediocre QB, but, he did win a SB
You know Rex isn’t a horrible idea it’s hard to handle the media in NY Rivera won on a no market area my best friend in Wisconsin is a true panther fan case and point
The problems with Rogers is the larger than the franchise persona that serves as a major distraction and reinforces the Jets as a laughingstock organization. He should not return for the macro view of the Jets future. The Jets need to be more focused on the game than the glamour. The largest ego should be the coach imo, not the QB.
I don’t think Joe Douglas deserves blame for caving into reddick. Like it’s clear woody told Joe to just give Hasan what he wanted to get him in the building. Thoughts? Joe Douglas deserves the blame for everything else tho lmao.
Ok two pints McCarthy did make the playoffs last year then fired the OC and now look and if Jets hire Gruden it would be in my opinion mean the jets are drafting a qb cause one thing he dose know is QBs he had a whole show
If Allar finishes strong in college football playoff and changes his mind to strike when the iron is hot, Jets should target him. Michigan's second team defense exposed Milroe. Not a polished qb whatsoever.
Trade for JJ McCarthy? Great. Two roster spots for injured quarterbacks with upside that we don't know if they can play. Take McCord in 2nd-3rd rd if available.
Probably be able to get McCord in round five. Rourke, the kid from Indiana looks good too. Dart from Mississippi also looks good. He may go round four or five also.
@harlanabraham7772 McCord will move up following his Holiday Bowl performance if he decides to declare. Dart to me vastly overrated. Rourke can't throw in Meadowlands winds in winter time and will need a west coast offense OC to land with..McCord and Allar can make the necessary throws in the Meadowlands.
Would love Gruden. By all accounts, He's A relentless worker. If you look at his coaching tree, it includes the likes of Mike Tomlin, Sean McVay and Kyle shanahan. When the buccaneers traded for him, it left them with little draft Capital and a high salary cap, which I think led to their long-term decline, although he did win a super bowl. He also got the most out of Rich Gannon and Derek Carr.
I agree, they need to hire the GM first & involve the GM in the search for a coach. They need to have the coach report to the GM and not to the owner. The GM should be responsible for evaluating the performance of the coaching staff, not the owner. This year one should assume that JD should have known that Saleh was the brain behind the defense and therefore would not have let him go mid season leaving Ulbrich as head coach. Did JD know this? Did Johnson talk to JD before firing Saleh? My guess is Johnson didn't consult JD before firing Saleh. This is the heart of the Jets problem. The owner has to be willing to hand the responsibility of judging the coaching to the GM and have only the GM report to Johnson. WOODY STAY OUT OF DIRECT INVOVEMENT IN JUDGING THE COACHING!!!!! IF YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THE FIELD YOU DON'T LIKE, TALK TO THE GM ABOUT IT. YOU THEN JUDGE THE GM BY WHAT HE SAYS AND THE RESUTS ON THE FIELD PLUS THE DRAFTING & FREE AGENT RESULTS.!!!!
if we hire Rex Ryan or Jon Gruden, it would prove how unserious we are lol
Gruden is not even the same thing as Rex.
Hire Ron as dc, Saleh as designated cheer coach, Ben Johnson as HC and Zach Taylor as oc when he's fired (I know this is impossible lmao)
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Yeah it would make sense. If we’re interviewing old guys like Rex and Ron let’s give Jon a go. At least Gruden has a storied CV rife with success unlike the other two. And Gruden is a genius, listen to the guy talk about football, concepts and schemes he’s a maniac and he’s built to withstand NY.
Gruden would be great. Been saying it. That said, I doubt clueless marketing Jets president Hymie who makes these decisions would allow it. Gruden loves the Jets too.
Gruden would not be great. Tampa won the SB in his first season there. Then Gruden had two losing seasons. Had a .500 percent with the Raiders before he got into trouble with the league. Jets would be wise to stay far away from him.
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@@harlanabraham7772I think he’s like 10 games under .500 since that SB
@@user-vr9tf9ly2m And I thought this was a sports talk.
What about Joe Brady?
Vikings need secondary help. Would a Sauce+ for JJ type swap make sense?
Did you see that Joe Douglas was offered an extension, and he turned it down. When its all said and done. Im sure there are going to be a ton of moves JD got overruled on by Johnson and Son.
Why would JD want to come back if the owner was interfering with him doing his job?
@harlanabraham7772 i was just sharing the news. I think Douglas did a great job. And was probably overruled on a bunch of moves
Just stop! Joe Douglas was terrible outside of 2022!
And picking at #4 & #10 was tough to screw up!
People watching the draft wanted the same players in those spots during polls!
@jetsterable You mean like how everyone wanted Zack wilson in those same polls. How many times can you say a Jets GM left and we still had a ton of talent on the team. I guarantee his hand have been tied more than has let on
Gruden has a chip on his shoulder and if he gets back in the league he wants payback. Remember the 85 bears they were like 2 different teams. Imagine Rex defensive coordinator then Gruden as offensive coordinator and Vrabel as head coach lol
Those three would not work together.
With Gruden will have a real offense finally. Btw name the last offense player Jets have had named to pro bowl
Yes
who would he hire as defensive coordinator?
Doesn't matter
How long do Jets have to wait to interview candidates who are currently employed by playoff teams?
Breece looks slow this yr - watch any other RB when they take the hand off and accelerate,, seems like it takes BH more time to hit the hole, just an observation
Happy New Year BJF, may 2025 be a good year for you and your family. Gruden had two consecutive losing seasons in Tampa after winning the SB. His teams were the first to have two consecutive losing seasons after winning the SB. He didn't do good with the Raiders. .500 record with Raiders. Don't want to hire someone based on one winning season, even if they won the SB. McCord you could probably get in a later round. Kingsbury as Jets HC? Don't think we are ready for an Air Raid Offense. Jets don't need a top fifteen QB. Didn't Ravens win the SB with Dilfer at QB? Dilfer was a mediocre QB, but, he did win a SB
With Aaron it's more than his ability as a QB, it's a culture and control issue. Not sure a new regime would/should deal with that.
You know Rex isn’t a horrible idea it’s hard to handle the media in NY Rivera won on a no market area my best friend in Wisconsin is a true panther fan case and point
The problems with Rogers is the larger than the franchise persona that serves as a major distraction and reinforces the Jets as a laughingstock organization. He should not return for the macro view of the Jets future. The Jets need to be more focused on the game than the glamour. The largest ego should be the coach imo, not the QB.
Bingo
Should they interview him? Yes. Should they hire him? Probably not.
I don’t think Joe Douglas deserves blame for caving into reddick. Like it’s clear woody told Joe to just give Hasan what he wanted to get him in the building. Thoughts?
Joe Douglas deserves the blame for everything else tho lmao.
Ok two pints McCarthy did make the playoffs last year then fired the OC and now look and if Jets hire Gruden it would be in my opinion mean the jets are drafting a qb cause one thing he dose know is QBs he had a whole show
If Allar finishes strong in college football playoff and changes his mind to strike when the iron is hot, Jets should target him. Michigan's second team defense exposed Milroe. Not a polished qb whatsoever.
Exactly what I was thinking while watching Penn State last night
It’s great how all the names rn are guys that haven’t been good since at least the Obama administration
lol true
Nyet
How can anyone be serious about bringing Rodgers back he was washed in Green Bay 2 years ago. He cant push the ball down field. He is done
Trade for JJ McCarthy? Great. Two roster spots for injured quarterbacks with upside that we don't know if they can play. Take McCord in 2nd-3rd rd if available.
Probably be able to get McCord in round five. Rourke, the kid from Indiana looks good too. Dart from Mississippi also looks good. He may go round four or five also.
@harlanabraham7772 McCord will move up following his Holiday Bowl performance if he decides to declare. Dart to me vastly overrated. Rourke can't throw in Meadowlands winds in winter time and will need a west coast offense OC to land with..McCord and Allar can make the necessary throws in the Meadowlands.
I love Gruden for the Jets
Gruden would be a side show distraction as much as Rodgers. Forget it. Too much baggage.
Please no Gruden, he's terrible and a psycho. He'll be Gase 2.0
Gruden and the Jets would be a perfect shit storm. Hard pass. The guy is a train reck.
You got that right
Yes