Gutes video. Sehr gut erklärt. Ich glaube auch, dass man wirklich keine besondere Skills fürs Pumpen braucht, was ich noch vor kurzem so nicht gedacht habe. Ich glaube ein wichtiger Tip wäre es, wie man auf das Board springt. Das ist mMn entscheidend beim Ganzen. Und dass kann man nur den Leuten erklären, die schon über dünnen Eis gelaufen sind 🙂 Beim Springen aufs Board sollte man so springen, wie auf das erwähnt dünne Eis. Also federleicht mit einem Push nach vorne. Dann geht alles easy. Dass kann man sogar am Boden trainieren. Man muss sich nur eine dünne Eisscholle dabei vorstellen. Man muss sogar nicht schnellen Anlauf machen. Schritttempo reicht vollkommen aus. (natürlich dem Foil entsprechend) Auch die Dockhöhe macht bei den ersten Versuchen viel aus. MMn sollte der Dock so ung. 10-15 cm unter dem Board sein. Wenn es höher ist, dann kann man schwieriger gewichtslos auf das Board springen. Viel erfolg an Alle! 🙂
All Great tips - The best make it look 'easy'. I am hoping Pumping, Prone Foil will become there own competitive disiplines. Pump Racing could be held year round in 50 m pools.
...extremely efficient video...thank you very much for your effort... ...what you are doing when you find yourself in the middle of lake falling...that's why I think that kind of foiling attraction is very limited...SUP FOILING with paddle where you can stop and take a break in the middle of lake is more appealing to me...then you do again... ...stay safe all the best...from Chicago...
Question: What happens if you fall out in open water or in the middle of the lake? Is there any way to get back up or do you have to swim (or get picked up) in order to get back to the shore?
You did an excellent JOB. By far the easiest foils to dock start are the sabfoil 1350 and the 1150. Especially on a lake with no current or wind. Any person trying to learn MUST watch your video. It’s the easiest explanation out there. The only other thing I would ad is HOW HIGH THE DOCK SHOULD BE FROM THE WATER. And find the sweet spot of not jumping too high or bending over too low when doing the run up.
Just stumbled over this video looking for pump-foiling basics. Very pleasantly surprised when you started like 1km from my home at the kajak club down at the wholensee in berne. 🤩 Looks like there's not many excuses left now NOT TO
@@BenBeholzVlogs The dock belongs to the rowingclub... as long as they're unbothered its okay. Can't think of any other legal problems since it's all muscle powered :}
Hey, Ben. Top Video. Passt für mich super, da ich gerade anfangen möchte. Könntest du möglicherweise ein ähnliches Video über das Wingfoiling machen? Insbesondere die Materialvorschläge in diesem Video sind genial und sehr gut inszeniert.
@@BenBeholzVlogs thanks so much I will keep my eyes open, wheres the best place to buy from, like gumtree, Facebook market place or what (if you have any recommendations). Thanks again I cant wait to get out onto the water!
Really nice video. - I don't really understand why you would want to set a max foil size for beginners : I learnt on 2500 for 97kg and it was easier than 2100 for the beginning. - I don't understand why you advise beginners to jump : in my experience, they learn faster and get consistent really quickly if you teach them not to jump and keep the front hand pushing at all time until the 2 feet are settled. I make the beginners make 2-5 launches with the instruction to keep the front hand in place and just trey to glide with the front hand on the board. It teaches them not to fear the weird position and it has the advantage to avoid falling back toward the dock and prevent falling in the foil for the firsts launches.
I find this instruction very easy to understand and systematic for beginners. I will apply next time. I have few questions, I push skateboards front foot always, I never been on foils. I find it hard to push with rear foot mongo on my skateboard not my thing. I’m going to try these tips with front foot placement next time. Also do you recommend a 2300cm Infinity 99 wing or a 1784cm Quantum 100 for beginner even though Quantum in pump wing? I own both and tried going back and forth but want to stick with better choice beginner set up. I also have big small tab. Been on larger for suppose better stability. I appreciate your feedback. I’m 61 years, 70kg, Thanks 🤙🏼
I'm a bamboo bicycle maker. And I want also to make my first hydrofoil to learn this pumping. Thanks for the video and also ready to receive any advice.
You're one of the few guys to land front foot first on the board. Glad it's working well for you but the consensus is that one should land back foot first. Not with the full weight on the back foot of course but rather very lightly. Anyways.. keep on keeping on! 🤙
So what I am gathering from this information is that you need a low volume board? High volume is too ? Heavy ? Clunky? There is not an option to paddle to start?
Great, thanks! The board: wingfoilers only have normally boards with a volume of 80-110 liters, does that work? Or is it unnecessary difficult at the beginning? What volume do you recommend for beginners? What does the job? Regards, Gerrit
@@BenBeholzVlogs so what do you recommend as board/size/Liter, weigh for a 85-90 kilo person to try/start pure dock start foiling like you do? I have Foil experience from wingfoiling and efoiling....
I have an aluminum foil and a big board and the whole thing is very heavy and clunky and I just can't hold it easily in water. I always wonder, are people usually pump-foiling with carbon foils to have it much lighter, or is it normal for beginners as well to use regular aluminum foils?
cooles Video. Würde es auch sooo gerne können (bin 58), Ich überlege aber zuerst Wing Foilen zu lernen, da der Einstieg ggf. einfacher sein soll (kann schon etwas windsurfen) . Was meinst du erst Wing oder erst Pump? lieben Dank für eine kurze Antwort. 🙂
500 attempts in and still barely making it 10meters away from the dock Very thankful for your video though, especially the specs are super helpful. Only thing I noticed (in comparison to all other pump foil gurus out there) is you land with your front foot first. Any specific reason for that?
Thank you for your feedback, and keep going. I think the foot doesen’t matter at all. I do both and don‘t see any big advantages. I think it‘s better if you don‘t concentrate too much on the feet and keep it as natural as possible…
Thanks for sharing this. Any advice on how far back or how far forward to place the foil? I recently purchased the Sunova Aviator downwind 6'6' with the Axis 1050 HPS front wing, 460 rear wing, short fuselage, and 70 CM mast.
This is very hard to answer in general. If you have too much frontfoot pressure the foil needs to go back. If you have to much backfoot pressure it needs to go to the front…
That's what I'm using. Its really hard to pump. At first I thought it was my lack of experience but I've been dock starting for 10 months and it's still very exhausting. 40secs is the longest I've pumped on it. I'm only 65kg so am on the look out for a higher aspect ratio front wing. The new Sabfoil Leviathan range should sort both you and me out. I'm certain they will fit on your existing fuselage.
@@BenBeholzVlogs sure, but where is that specific place? I bring my boys to bern because they have training so I have time to go play myself. It would be great to know a spot. Thanks
Hey Ben! Is the aspect ratio of the foil important? I weight 78kgs and I have a F-ONE Gravity 1800. It's a 5 aspect ratio foil. Is it good for learning or should I switch to a 6 or 7 aspect ratio?
Great instructions! Thank you. I have a question. I want to buy Takuma 1900 lol profoil hydrofoil kit, and use it in Finland on a lake without waves. Is this possible? (Maybe this is a stoopid question) I just keep thinking that maybe it is designed for only waves.
I have never seen this before today. This is my 3rd video. Has any fat people used this? Old people? I thought I'd be seeing you going in the lake in the cold.
Don't miss my latest foil surfing movie from Dubai: ruclips.net/video/7J-Wvvg6RS8/видео.htmlsi=KqPoS5Svm323Wwjm
video is private?
Btw it‘s more fun if you do it together with friends. Especially the first attempts on the dock are worth to be shared 😆🤘
It also helps as they can sit in the water and be a human starting dock and hold the board up for you. Its easier to learn that way :p
Great video! Knew nothing about the concept of foil pumping until 5 min ago. Now it’s on my to-do list already.
Thanks!
Yeah ! Cool to have you on board. It‘s sick !
Gutes video. Sehr gut erklärt. Ich glaube auch, dass man wirklich keine besondere Skills fürs Pumpen braucht, was ich noch vor kurzem so nicht gedacht habe.
Ich glaube ein wichtiger Tip wäre es, wie man auf das Board springt. Das ist mMn entscheidend beim Ganzen. Und dass kann man nur den Leuten erklären, die schon über dünnen Eis gelaufen sind 🙂
Beim Springen aufs Board sollte man so springen, wie auf das erwähnt dünne Eis. Also federleicht mit einem Push nach vorne. Dann geht alles easy. Dass kann man sogar am Boden trainieren. Man muss sich nur eine dünne Eisscholle dabei vorstellen.
Man muss sogar nicht schnellen Anlauf machen. Schritttempo reicht vollkommen aus. (natürlich dem Foil entsprechend)
Auch die Dockhöhe macht bei den ersten Versuchen viel aus. MMn sollte der Dock so ung. 10-15 cm unter dem Board sein. Wenn es höher ist, dann kann man schwieriger gewichtslos auf das Board springen.
Viel erfolg an Alle! 🙂
super feedback und tips, dank !!!
All Great tips - The best make it look 'easy'. I am hoping Pumping, Prone Foil will become there own competitive disiplines. Pump Racing could be held year round in 50 m pools.
...extremely efficient video...thank you very much for your effort...
...what you are doing when you find yourself in the middle of lake falling...that's why I think that kind of foiling attraction is very limited...SUP FOILING with paddle where you can stop and take a break in the middle of lake is more appealing to me...then you do again...
...stay safe all the best...from Chicago...
This is right, you can‘t start again…
Unless one has a foil drive in assist height!
Great!! You made something complicated simple
Thank you 😊🤘
Geiler See, geiler Clip, geil erklärt! Chapeau!
Question: What happens if you fall out in open water or in the middle of the lake? Is there any way to get back up or do you have to swim (or get picked up) in order to get back to the shore?
You need to swim
I guess the board floats so it pops up to the surface and you can hold on to it a paddle back.
Un grande grazie da un italiano!grazie!
Nice calm instruction. I have no doubt almost anyone could follow your steps and do it.
great video. Thanks. I got my mind into hydrofoil. Not sure if I will make one and have a try ... but I would love it.
Nice Video - it would be great if you could also link a full board with a few options depending on weight etc.
Thank you, that is the best video about foil pumping I have ever seen about.
You did an excellent JOB. By far the easiest foils to dock start are the sabfoil 1350 and the 1150. Especially on a lake with no current or wind. Any person trying to learn MUST watch your video. It’s the easiest explanation out there. The only other thing I would ad is HOW HIGH THE DOCK SHOULD BE FROM THE WATER. And find the sweet spot of not jumping too high or bending over too low when doing the run up.
Thank you for your feedback :)
Excellent, now i can go to Italia from Corsica without boat. I like it.
Just stumbled over this video looking for pump-foiling basics.
Very pleasantly surprised when you started like 1km from my home at the kajak club down at the wholensee in berne.
🤩 Looks like there's not many excuses left now NOT TO
haha 😆 not sure if it‘s 100% legal. It was deepest winter when I went
@@BenBeholzVlogs The dock belongs to the rowingclub... as long as they're unbothered its okay. Can't think of any other legal problems since it's all muscle powered :}
Hey, Ben. Top Video. Passt für mich super, da ich gerade anfangen möchte. Könntest du möglicherweise ein ähnliches Video über das Wingfoiling machen? Insbesondere die Materialvorschläge in diesem Video sind genial und sehr gut inszeniert.
Super idee ! Denke drüber nach, danke
How much would all the parts cost, because i don't have heaps of money but this looks sooo fun 😍
If you buy used gear you can start with 500,-
@@BenBeholzVlogs thanks so much I will keep my eyes open, wheres the best place to buy from, like gumtree, Facebook market place or what (if you have any recommendations). Thanks again I cant wait to get out onto the water!
Really nice video.
- I don't really understand why you would want to set a max foil size for beginners : I learnt on 2500 for 97kg and it was easier than 2100 for the beginning.
- I don't understand why you advise beginners to jump : in my experience, they learn faster and get consistent really quickly if you teach them not to jump and keep the front hand pushing at all time until the 2 feet are settled. I make the beginners make 2-5 launches with the instruction to keep the front hand in place and just trey to glide with the front hand on the board. It teaches them not to fear the weird position and it has the advantage to avoid falling back toward the dock and prevent falling in the foil for the firsts launches.
I find this instruction very easy to understand and systematic for beginners. I will apply next time. I have few questions, I push skateboards front foot always, I never been on foils. I find it hard to push with rear foot mongo on my skateboard not my thing. I’m going to try these tips with front foot placement next time. Also do you recommend a 2300cm Infinity 99 wing or a 1784cm Quantum 100 for beginner even though Quantum in pump wing? I own both and tried going back and forth but want to stick with better choice beginner set up. I also have big small tab. Been on larger for suppose better stability. I appreciate your feedback. I’m 61 years, 70kg, Thanks 🤙🏼
Hey, usually the rule is: the bigger the wing the better to learn. I would go for the 2300cm wing first
@@BenBeholzVlogs Got it, thanks for the quick reply! 🤙🏼
Very good teaching
Niiiiiice Editing 🔥🔥
Geiler Cut, Top erklärt, Super Effekte! Mega!
danke dir !
I'm a bamboo bicycle maker. And I want also to make my first hydrofoil to learn this pumping. Thanks for the video and also ready to receive any advice.
Efoils board less Price
You're one of the few guys to land front foot first on the board. Glad it's working well for you but the consensus is that one should land back foot first. Not with the full weight on the back foot of course but rather very lightly. Anyways.. keep on keeping on! 🤙
Top dieser Video lieber Ben
That’s really fun..thanks for sharing bro
Obrigado. .. meu sonho é algum dia deslizar no oceano com uma prancha assim... muito bom assistir às técnicas...
So what I am gathering from this information is that you need a low volume board? High volume is too ? Heavy ? Clunky? There is not an option to paddle to start?
Awesome info bro!! Thanks🤙🏼
Amazing! Thank you.
😁🤙
great explanation thank you!
Great, thanks! The board: wingfoilers only have normally boards with a volume of 80-110 liters, does that work? Or is it unnecessary difficult at the beginning? What volume do you recommend for beginners? What does the job? Regards, Gerrit
It might be too big for dockstarting…
@@BenBeholzVlogs so what do you recommend as board/size/Liter, weigh for a 85-90 kilo person to try/start pure dock start foiling like you do? I have Foil experience from wingfoiling and efoiling....
I have an aluminum foil and a big board and the whole thing is very heavy and clunky and I just can't hold it easily in water. I always wonder, are people usually pump-foiling with carbon foils to have it much lighter, or is it normal for beginners as well to use regular aluminum foils?
It’s freaking awesome dude😂
Can somebody tell me where he surf's on the thumbnail, or at 5 Minutes in. Stunning. Looks like an amazing hiking/swimming place
That‘s lake silvaplana
Thanks, subbed
good job!
Awesome, thanks! 🤙
thanks for the video
cooles Video. Würde es auch sooo gerne können (bin 58), Ich überlege aber zuerst Wing Foilen zu lernen, da der Einstieg ggf. einfacher sein soll (kann schon etwas windsurfen) . Was meinst du erst Wing oder erst Pump? lieben Dank für eine kurze Antwort. 🙂
Hey, mega Feedback - danke ! Ich würde beides parallel üben. Es überschneidet sich nicht und hilft die je das Andere besser zu lernen 🙌
500 attempts in and still barely making it 10meters away from the dock
Very thankful for your video though, especially the specs are super helpful. Only thing I noticed (in comparison to all other pump foil gurus out there) is you land with your front foot first. Any specific reason for that?
Thank you for your feedback, and keep going. I think the foot doesen’t matter at all. I do both and don‘t see any big advantages. I think it‘s better if you don‘t concentrate too much on the feet and keep it as natural as possible…
I am very interested in starting this sport. I have noticed a wide variety of price points from $1000s of dollars to
Merci bien
good vibes man
Thanks bro !
Nice video - i missed your advise about the board . Do you have again some advise with brand, volume etc. ? Thank you
Thx bro ! I use the core slc in 115 cm
@@BenBeholzVlogs thank you - what would reccomend for a beginner 90 kg
Hi Ben, bist du mal wieder in Konstanz ? Kann man bei dir auch ein Board ausleihen ? Hast du Tipps für ein günstiges Einsteigerboard ?
Can you also start from within the water? Of if you fall in the middle of the lake you have to swim to the shore to try again?
There is special boards for it. But with this setup you need a beach, dock, stone or what ever
whats more fun from everyone's experience? wake foiling, wake surfing, wake boarding, or wake skiing??
foiling 🫣
could you please advise where to buy of such a set?
Check ridecore.com 😁🤘
Ich würde das gerne mal ausprobieren, gibt es in Ostösterreich irgendwo eine surfbasis wo man sich so ein teil für 1 Tag oder 2 ausborgen kann ?
Sehr cool ! Das ist eine gute Frage, an jeder Wingfoil Schule vermutlich… lg
I'm just wondering, what if something goes wrong while far from shore/dock? You just end up swimming? Or can you start in the water some how?
In this case you need to swim 😁
does it take work to keep it above water? I want a motorized one
Thanks for sharing this. Any advice on how far back or how far forward to place the foil? I recently purchased the Sunova Aviator downwind 6'6' with the Axis 1050 HPS front wing, 460 rear wing, short fuselage, and 70 CM mast.
This is very hard to answer in general. If you have too much frontfoot pressure the foil needs to go back. If you have to much backfoot pressure it needs to go to the front…
@@BenBeholzVlogs Thanks, Ben! I guess it all comes down to personal preference.
2 Goats are better than 1. 🐐🐐😊
Depending on how geel they are…
Schönes Video Ben, danke!
Bezüglich dem Material, ist Alu genug gut oder sollte man unbedingt aus Carbon kaufen?
Alu ist absolut ausreichend…
I would like to try this.
Never done this before. Anyone who wanted to start this hobby with me?
Available e-foils board
Bro what would be the price of the whole set??
This depends if you want it new or used from 500-3000
@@BenBeholzVlogs Ok dude👍👍
Takuma profoil 1900 fits the measurements, but I keep thinking that maybe it’s designed for only waves.
Just checked it, I think it should work...
@@BenBeholzVlogs Thank you so much Ben. I ordered it. Let's see :) hopefully I can use other wings later too.
Nice useful video, thanks. Does the foot you put forward match your kitesurfing stance (goofy vs regular) or do you have to figure it out ?
with me it matched to kitesurfing. I think in most cases it‘s the same…
Does the board sink if I fall away from the board?
no, it floats
hi, great video, thanks! What do you think about starting with Sabfoil W1100? It's 2100 cm2.
Hi Daniel, not that easy 🙂Already tried. A lot of effort was needed for the W1100. But I'm curious what Ben's opinion is.
I rode it once, it works but there are easier wings to pump. But if you have this one already, use it !!!! 🤘
That's what I'm using. Its really hard to pump. At first I thought it was my lack of experience but I've been dock starting for 10 months and it's still very exhausting. 40secs is the longest I've pumped on it. I'm only 65kg so am on the look out for a higher aspect ratio front wing.
The new Sabfoil Leviathan range should sort both you and me out. I'm certain they will fit on your existing fuselage.
@@steveothedeveo I think Leviathan 1350 would do the job and still fits to my fuselage
Hi Ben,
Nice video. Where are you dock starting in Bern? Can you tell me some good locations?
Thanks
D
You can start everywhere, where there is a dock and water…
@@BenBeholzVlogs sure, but where is that specific place?
I bring my boys to bern because they have training so I have time to go play myself. It would be great to know a spot.
Thanks
brother where can get like this one
Check out ridecore.com
Ok so I always thought those things were motorized. That just blew my mind.
Some are, but not the „real“ ones 😁🤙
Hey Ben! Is the aspect ratio of the foil important? I weight 78kgs and I have a F-ONE Gravity 1800. It's a 5 aspect ratio foil. Is it good for learning or should I switch to a 6 or 7 aspect ratio?
Hey, this is very hard to forecast. Best would be you give it a try…
Great video explaining 👌 thanks and you got yourself a new subscriber too
Thanks bro 😁🤙
Your crazy ... in a good way!
haha 😆 thank you
When I am re-incarnated and I'm a youth I'll do this.
Would this work on the Atlantic Coast of the USA?
sure 🤙
awesome🏖
Is this the same as you keep making squats constantly? 🤔 Must be hard to perform
It is less intense, it‘s more about a technical pumprithm…
pump it... pump it... pump it up
haha 😆🤘
How athletic one needs to be to pump foil for 10 minutes straight?
True that !!!
Arm movement?
… can help to get into the flow…
Great instructions! Thank you. I have a question. I want to buy Takuma 1900 lol profoil hydrofoil kit, and use it in Finland on a lake without waves. Is this possible? (Maybe this is a stoopid question) I just keep thinking that maybe it is designed for only waves.
and my stupid self thought these boards cost like 800 ^^
Step 1. Just a small loan of 1 million dollars from your parents.
I have never seen this before today. This is my 3rd video. Has any fat people used this? Old people? I thought I'd be seeing you going in the lake in the cold.
Everybody can do, only needs a bigger foil…
Liked the video. Did not like the music. Find more neutral music.
Парень, у тебя сержека в губе 😮
I need to talk to foil designers and manufacturers. We need to test hydrophobic cylindrical masts, and wing tubercles, just to start
Was machst du denn wenn du im offenen Gewässer fällst/ fallen solltest? Ist das Gerät nicht zu schwer, um im Notfall damit zurückzuschwimmen?
The board floats, so you can swim back with the board. Like a surfer paddels out...
Thanks a lot Ben! Great video. How many times people say you looked like Liam Neeson when he was young but just look better :-)
haha, till now... nobody :)
Thank you!