Matty the Killa when you arrive at SOI, they ask if anyone wants to try out for recon, if you fail BRC they drop you and choose your MOS, or you can ask your recruiter for a recon contract although the same thing applies if you fail they chose your MOS. Once they assign your MOS, 0311 for example and hit the fleet you can move to MARSOC as an NCO only. You can also receive recon orders, for example, 0621 (Radio operators) sometimes get recon or raider orders after the school house
the scariest part of going in taking a 0321 contract is that if you fail or drop out the marine corps has every right to put you in any mos that the marine corps need.. aka you can end up as a cook!
My boy followed me into the Marines as a 0351 he did 2 tours in the sangin valley with the 2/5. He is now in force recon, right after graduation his platoon was sent to syria.
Being from the state of Hawaii, when I enlisted and got to Georgia I first thought people were lying when they claimed not to know how to swim. It just seemed impossible to me that people wouldn't know how. Back home your parents chuck you into a shallow part of the shore as a toddler so you start treading water at least.
Damn bro that's what's up I'm from Pearl City. Not everyday you encounter someone from Hawaii in the Marine Corps. Most people from the islands go army or air force lol.
Funny enough as a POG the swimming looks fine to me. I never understand how people struggle so much with the pool. It’s the 10+ mile ruck runs with 50 pound packs that I would absolutely die on
Man I love the honesty in your videos bro...I'm a former Army Civil Affairs guy and I tell people our Army and Marine Infantry guys are some of the most squared away killers in the military...Special Operations has become so sensationalized and romanticised in TV and movies that people forget that conventional Infantrymen still get it done...and I tell people everybody doesn't have to be Captain America...dope videos my guy.
40 MINUTES OF TREADING?? God damn dude, I was a LIFEGUARD and we had to tread for like 4 minutes. I love to push myself but I dont see that shit ever happening, lol
I am a awful swimmer and I can tread 10 minutes. It ain't that bad just train the endurance. Holy shit just got to that part. In full combat fatigues? That's a whole another best
@@Jabooty_Williams If you are buoyant it is way easier lol. I am buoyant so deep end cards and all that isn't so bad for me. The hardest part for me is the sleep deprivation. Caffeine has no effect on me and I don't use tobacco so I just have to tough it out lol
@@UsamaBeenHidin It depends on the deep end card, longest deep end card we did was over an hour. Youre treading with bricks, hands and elbows out, its not a lot of fun.
This is a very interesting and thought provoking video. I hope people in the future can use it to get an insider view on Marine infantry and Recon life. Just my .02 cents: It's peacetime now. If it was wartime, everyone in the conventional Marine Corps (Force Recon included) would be getting some. As such, you gotta pick and choose the road ahead of you. If you sign up with a recon contract, its the quickest way into Recon with no time wasted, but also the riskiest if you fail. If you just go straight leg 03, you can be at your unit for a Year and a Half testing out the water and seeing if you like the infantry and you want to go Recon. You can also try out for Scout/ Sniper or wait another year or so and put in a MARSOC package. That's the slowest and least sexiest but maybe the smartest option if you bare minimum want to be an 03XX. If you go straight leg infantry, your chances of getting a shitty chain of command and peers are obviously higher than if you went Scout/ Sniper or Recon, as well as not getting as cool training as they do. Recon Battalions have more Scout/ Sniper qualified Marines than infantry battalions do in their Scout/ Sniper Platoons. You'd get to the fleet quicker and get out of the Marine Corps faster if you went straight infantry. 7th Marines is probably the most squared away and tough Marine Infantry unit right now, seeing as they never quite stopped deploying to the middle east, but you will have to put up with being in 29 Palms. Security Forces can be cool, and I recommend 1st FAST Company out of all the choices. Presidential Security is a unique opportunity, but you won't deploy, and it is very stressful. PRP is typically regarded as the worst assignment in USMC Security Forces because they don't deploy anywhere, but you will have more time to do college. If you go PRP, make sure you get on the RTT. FAST is probably the most exciting and promising option, and I mention 1st FAST because with 2nd FAST, Marines are going to Japan anyway on MEUs and UDPs from both east coast, Hawaii, and west coast units. With 3rd FAST, you're going to be sweating your ass off in Bahrain. Tie the heat in with the fact that ALL THREE FAST companies don't get a lot of action because they're defensive and reactionary (as opposed to offensive and proactive), and you might feel you wasted your two years. Different strokes for different folks, but I'd want to be in Spain for 6 months vice the hot ass desert. 1st FAST all the way, and hopefully you get to go to CQB school and Cuba as well. Scout/ Snipers seem to get the shortest end of the stick when it comes to the "elite" Marine communities. They are really where the rubber meets the road, as they had to come up in a straight leg infantry unit (imagine being in 29 Palms- fuck your life) their whole time. They don't get cool training and relaxed standards until they pass SSBC. Even then, the unit isn't a Scout/ Sniper Battalion, it's a infantry battalion. Cool training and common sense often takes a back seat to the daily infantry grind. This is why I mention that being a Scout/ Sniper qualified Marine in a Recon Battalion is probably a more rewarding opportunity (rewarding for your efforts) vice being a Scout/ Sniper qualified Marine in a Infantry battalion. I mean, even if you were a Scout/ Sniper in an Infantry Battalion, you'd still have to go through BRC to get to Recon. Scout/ Sniper qualified Recon Marines have no such hurdle, should they somehow or someway go to an infantry battalion. Scout/ Snipers outside of Recon don't get jump or dive schools, and so on and so on. Just something to consider. Many people seem to consider going Recon a poor choice when MARSOC exists. I think that they would be wise to take a serious look at Recon again though. Unlike MARSOC, Recon has a part time component in 4th Recon Battalion and 4th Force Recon Company. If you want to be a Raider but part time while you got out after your first contract to go to school, well, it isn't possible. MARSOC has no reserve component. Recon also has a much shorter training process, being about 4 months with RTAP and BRC, vice 8 months with A&S and ITC. I'm not too sure about BRC, but with ITC, another big thing you have to consider is that you can pass all the training and make it through to the end just to not get selected at the selection board. Imagine passing the hardest training the USMC has to offer, and you didn't make it through and now you're going back to the MOS you tried to leave. Recon also has a location in Okinawa (active) and a location in Hawaii (reserve) if that appeals to you. MARSOC does not, and if MARSOC actually does move to Lejeune, then Recon will have the nice sunny beaches and beautiful women of San Clemente, CA all to themselves. If being on the east coast is a deal breaker for you, you may not want to go MARSOC. Apart from the Raiders, Recon is really and truly the next best unit to be in in the USMC. You have a much higher chance of doing things like Scout/ Sniper School, Airborne School, Ranger School, even the Exchange Program with Royal Marines where you can complete things like their Commando Course, Mountain Leader Course, and Sniper Course. They're the next best place to be under MARSOC, regardless of if Recon/ Force Recon is in SOCOM or not. Whether it's peacetime or wartime, a Recon Marine is going to have more opportunities than straight leg infantry. If you don't like how MARSOC limits you in terms of training time, the selection board, lack of duty stations, and lack of a part time option, and you want to stay Marine, go Recon. Recon was holding it down before MARSOC came around, and they're still a solid unit to be in with a on average higher quality of Marine and better treatment. You don't have to leave the Marine Corps after your first enlistment for the Army if you don't want to.
I have to compliment you on your humility. Most grunts try to sell themselves as superheroes. And like you said, infantry first, then decide if you really want that 0321 mos.
I told my son who’s an aviator to be calm as you can underwater watch your bubbles. Of course easy 4 me I spend most of life in dark hot places ff/ medic & cold ,dark ,wet environments-rescue diver. The only thing I can say is never quit me we go as a team ‘ push it if you say you can’t ,you mentally quit without trying ! 30 years later I still work to get better ! I did 12 wks of Fire academy @ 43 yo most of my class wasn’t even out of grade school. Recon is a level up ! But you earned the title marine !! So never forget what you got !🇺🇸 Semper fi 🇺🇸 Proud of all our military !
Former 8654 ( I realize that some MOS’s have changed) here, 1st Force Recon, jump and dive qual. If I could do it then you can too. All you have to do is “do it” don’t “think about it”.
As a former US Army Long Range Surveillance Team Scout, I had the opportunity to cross train with some Recon Marines. Great group of guys. We both benefited from the training. I admit, they swam a lot more than we did. Our vectors of approach were a bit reversed. We concentrated more on air, land and sea. The Recon Marines concentrated more on sea, air and land. Great training! They are my brothers forever. Semper fi Devil Dogs. Rangers Lead The Way! Airborne All The Way!
40 minutes of treading water?!!! Damn, man. Nope, RECON is not as easy as I thought. This one would definitely push my boundaries. Amazing review, Trell 👌
Marine recon sounds awesome. I have done a lot of reading and have found that the recon marines seem to not go out on a lot of “missions” and are severely under-used. I am still deciding wether or not to join
Think about it again though. As a brand new Recon Marine, you are going to be WAY TOO BUSY to have the time, experience, and self awareness to notice you're underutilized. Matter of fact, you're going to be WAY too excited that you passed BRC and you're on to Airborne School, or you passed SERE and you're finally getting to your first Marine Corps unit, let alone your first Recon unit, as a Recon Marine. From there, you're again going to be way too busy to realize what's going on around you because Recon Marines have a high skill level and huge skillset (think toolbox). Your head is going to be down in your work trying to keep up and prove your worth on your Recon Team and show all the senior and more experienced Recon Marines you actually belong. Save the noticing of disappointment for later when you have downtime. In the meantime, youve got BRC and the follow on schools, Scout/ Sniper Training, Ranger School, Joint Ops with foreign militaries (South Korean Recon Marines, Filipino Force Recon Marines, Thai Recon Marines, etc.). Don't put the cart before the horse, as they say. Relish in your moment of passing BRC and achieving your dream, because it only comes around once.
I'm headed out to ITB next week. How difficult is it to transfer to recon once you hit the fleet? I've heard they usually take volunteers during ITB, but as you said gaining some experience first would be nice
@@frankcastle5285 lol Force Recon is also tier 2... and that doesn't really mean anything anyway. It's just a designation. Hardcore training is still hardcore training. I'm just saying it would be cool to see him compare his time in the corps to some of the other cool jobs in the military.
@@XMDDarkManXDMX Force Recon isn't tier 2. It's not even a SOCOM unit. And he should just speak about things he knows. I assume he doesn't know much about Army Rangers.
I really hope that if you get a recon contract for your first enlistment, that you can put in that contract a secondary MOS just in case you fail or quit somewhere in the Recon pipeline.
Becoming a Reconnaissance Marine is the greatest achievement of my life. I went into boot camp as contract recon. I Got dropped for failing a written test. Still graduated and served 4 years at 2nd Recon Battalion Camp Lejeune, NC. Met some of the finest men to ever walk this planet. Semper Fidelis.
Maybe your proudest accomplishment should have been earning the title, " US Marine". I think i see clearly now why the Marine Corps is starting to follow down the same road as the US Army. God help us.
I didn't go to indoc or recon school. I was at the right place at the right time. I was a Infantrymen and was designated marksmen, and there was a 3rd Battalion 3rd regiment Recon Platoon, specifically a direct action battalion, I was over watch for my platoon and one of their senior hogs noticed my skillset and asked me if I wanted to join in on a op, I said yes sir, I wanna bring the rain. Before I know it, I was 0317 In Afghanistan with elite operators
@@TrelltheGreat it's was sheer luck. I happen to be at the right place at the right time. I didn't go to indoc or BRC I literally was given the title because of necessity and war fortunate for to receive the opportunity
If you’re interested in the infantry you should consider us army 75th ranger regiment. You can get it contracted as a boot. You get airborne qualified and be part of the SOF community. They are the infantry standard. You get the best of both worlds, infantry and special operations combined.
hey man good stuff. i ship in less than 2 weeks now and been with your channel since day one pretty much. tons of useful info from you bro. going down on the 03 contract hopefully becoming an 0331 machine gunner. June 8th 2020 starts a new journey. thanks for all the help if i don’t see another video when i leave. until then, peace out and see you on the other side
I can say in 89 the selection test for 1st Force was not fun. Each evolution was back to back no breaks. If you made the physical portion you still had to pass the interview. Unless it changed to get to Force you had to have at least completed a deployment with your unit (Grunts)
I’m a Force Recon Marine I went through ARS in 2000 and I’ve never been prouder to serve as a Force Recon Marine started with echo 4th Recon then after 9-11 joined 1st recon alpha I appreciate you Devil showing the world about US cause nobody really knows about US but SEMPER FI FROM ONE OF THE FEW AND THE PROUDER A FORCE RECON MARINE
I see things have changed since the 80's. Treading water for basic swim qual in boot camp was a lot longer than four minutes. Anyway for recon there was no recruitment contract for a tryout then. You got invited to try by your Bn command and only an infantry MOS could go to Indoc. So you had to be one squared away and capable Marine to be invited. ARC on the east coast was no joke and that video is awesome about BRC which is on the west coast. As for the attrition rate, I didn't see that high of a percentage but then again everyone there was a well accomplished infantry marine of at least an E3 in rank and one deployment. But that was in peace time so in war time the pipeline adapts. Back then everyone wanted to be there and trained for it. 2nd Force Recon Indoc included a 26.2 mile run. Minimum 5 years in and they drew from BN recon. Oh and they reached out to you personally. Great video!
Nice video. The only thing I would add is Recon is not apart of Marsoc. The only thing that’s in marsoc (Marine special operations command) is the Raiders, and we fall under SOCOM which is the Army (we are still apart of the marine corps just take orders from both the Marine Corps and the army basically). In fact. An 0321 isn’t even special operations, they are “special operations capable” They are just a glorified grunts. So that also means you probably won’t go to jump school and free fall school and combat diver school while being in the pipeline. Because then you’re considered an 0326. And those are the guys who jump out of planes and do the shit everyone thinks recon does. So you probably won’t become an 0326 until after you check into your unit.
I am so sorry about Marines that are just glorified grunts. How awful that must be for you to associate with mere peasants like the grunts. Yuck. Another idiot!
Every Rifle Company conducts reconsonance. It's basically the first riule of Intelligence gathering for the Rear Echelon to establish its forward advance strategy and its rule of engagement to the Company commanders. However the Marines actually have a specific Reconansance Mos. You'll have to qualify and you must pass three month's of intense Combat training. Marines must earn other accolades, and that is Airborne wings, as well as Deep water divers Accolades. Upon successful completion, that Marine will recieve these two Badges of Recognition. Good Luck to all those who dare to desire to become the elite Msrine Combat fighter.
wow...i went thru recon and pass as a 0311...and received a recon badge for passing the training. this was in the early 1970 i thought all marines had to pass recon training...i guess they must have stopped somewhere along the time line? P.S my foto to the left is my car with marine corps lic-plates
However being regular Marine infantry you can do some stuff similar to recon like become a scout swimmer or certified coxswain, I got certified in both. But yes Recon is next level no doubt!
Honestly I wanna really join recon once I’m old enough to serve. Its my dream even though the training is harsh I still wanna do it. But once I serve I’m not sure about the requirements or how I join it.
You will go to your local recruiter, tell him/her that you want a recon contract, pass the minimum requirements for that contract and then you will be on your way to boot and then BRC. Just know that if you fail out of BRC you will get put in whatever MOS the corps needs you in. I’ve met a lot of “recon drops”. Best of luck to you though!
@@PlagueRiddenBlightSpawn probably safer to go in as an infantryman and roll into recon afterwards then? I'm looking at going into the Corps, specifically recon, and I'm trying to figure out what the right job is. My concern is that I scored into the 92nd percentile on my ASVAB, but I desperately don't want to get saddled in a desk job.
@L7M yeah, that's the plan. I have time so I'll be able to 100% get that contract. Any idea how it works to get into recon? Specifically, can I go right out of infantry school or is there a shitton of MOS paperwork that I have to wait to reenlist to do? It's my understanding that recon is an MOS of its own, which is why it seems a bit more confusing than, say, Army Rangers.
Funny I guess infantry has changed over the years. When I was infantry…I did everything. Zodiacs, S.P.I.E. Rigged many times, Helo cast, trailer platoon, Fast rope, T.R.A.P, HRST, Adv. Inf., C.A.S. And much much more. I’ve also had numerous attachments pre 9/11 and post 9/11. All my Marines were WSQ swimmers including myself but I was in a smaller contingent. i’m not just talking training but forward deployed ops. It all comes down to your unit and how they decide to employ you and quotas available. I was the last of the Dragons and first Javelins from Raytheon in the Corps. It also depends whether not you’re a shitbird or not.
I was an 0351 Dragon gunner with Weapons 3/6 and then went over to Weapons Plt, India Co. 3/6 as a SMAW gunner. I can tell you from personal experience all the difference is the NCO's and SNCO's in your company. 3/6 was a MEUSOC unit in 1992. WE did all that special ops training too, Zodiacs, Fast roping , etc. It isn't the unit that you are in that makes you elite it's the training. Having some cool sounding badass name like MARSOC doesn't mean shit to me.
So do you pick recon at recruiting or is that an opportunity presented while you're enlisted? If so are there certain jobs that do and don't get the offer and what determins it?
Do a video on the one where the marine falls out of the ruck March and quits in sapper school and the female soldier graduates 😂 I’m assuming he had to compete against his peers in some way to get a slot and that is what they sent? The boats called a zodiac btw
BRC sucked, but making the jump from RECON to Force Recon is way harder. Army Ranger School, Army Pathfinder School, Army Airborne school, static line jumps, free falls, HAlOS, AND HAHOS, Scuba School, Combat Diver School, SERE, Mountain Warfare, Jungle Warfare, Jungle Survival, Intelligence Training, Counter Intelligence, Counter Terrorism, Unconventional Warfare, Urban Warfare, Basic EOD, Trauma Training.
And then there is the o341 that gets a o845 spot. Good luck getting blessed like that. It is a spot you can get your jump wings though, if you go in with field craft and able to climb the rope in ten seconds.
Wow. it is a scary try out. I thought they would take more times to get used to inside water before they are ready but it doesn't happen. My cousin was an infantryman in the Marine Corps.
I was an 8156 MSG Battalion . During school in Quantico they would tell us they are short in Europe but when we got our orders most got the middle east.
i foolishly quit college and enlisted in the Corps i earned both of my MOS's 03/11 & my 2'nd 03/21 but during my wild youth as a grunt ( 03/11 ) we believed that the only real difference between an 03/21 & an 03/11 was the jump and basic scuba school othee than that it was marine corps training and the wild youthful arrogance of the grunt and brotherhood that led the way to all the other portals that get 1' to the benning jump sch and the other schs that make 1' a member of the golden wing's they used to have Btn recon , for recon , anglico and the S/Snipers they tell me that many old units have been disbanded and lumped in to the new mar soc's and by big $$$ and many new disciplines of the war trade it's a whole new animal but the may change a few things but it always keeps its history
First off, people talk about SOCOM tier 2 and 1 units and think Marine Recon is somehow less than tier 2, nothing could be further from the truth. Recon is not part of SOCOM. Recon and Force Recon is the MAGTF's personal SOCOM. Recon is called "Special Operations Capable." And they are. People think because they are not SOCOM, that the training is any less grueling and less intense than SOCOM units. Nothing, could be further from the truth. In fact, and yes, I'll say it twice, in fact. The Navy looked to the 1950's Force Recon to use as a template for establishing and developing their SEAL program for turning UDTs into SEALs. SEALs hell week is a minor page out of Force Recon selection etc. from the 1950's. Marine Recon has a different mission and customer than SOCOM units. Recon is dedicated to the overall mission of the Marine Corps through the MAGTF/MEU.
Question. I want to join cuz I’m at a wall and need guidance my x left me for another man and got nothing else better to do with my life. I’m 24 and I had my left shoulder dislocated 4 times it been 7 years sense then . Will my current problem show up In boot camp should I go my grandpa was a marine for 23 years and a Sargent and Aviation . He wants to go with me and sit with the recruiter idk if thire a perk to having him with me
there is a video on that from nick. but ill break it down. Recon Marines fall under the Marine Corps so when u go on a MEU you as a Recon Marine take orders from that command Recon Marines are not special operations but Special operation capable they can do direct action ship boarding etc. MARSOC(Raiders) they fall under USSOCOM and they are the special ops for Marines and do direct action etc etc
Make sure to chekout the new MERCH. Link in the description.
If you join the infantry, is there a certain amount of time needed served in order to try out for Recon? thanks g, loved the video. shits brutal
Matty the Killa you can try out at SOI
Matty the Killa when you arrive at SOI, they ask if anyone wants to try out for recon, if you fail BRC they drop you and choose your MOS, or you can ask your recruiter for a recon contract although the same thing applies if you fail they chose your MOS. Once they assign your MOS, 0311 for example and hit the fleet you can move to MARSOC as an NCO only. You can also receive recon orders, for example, 0621 (Radio operators) sometimes get recon or raider orders after the school house
I have watched that recon vid like 6 times already I’m going recon
Matty the Killa you can sign up before SOI.
the scariest part of going in taking a 0321 contract is that if you fail or drop out the marine corps has every right to put you in any mos that the marine corps need.. aka you can end up as a cook!
If you want to be recon, go infantry and once you get to ITB try out for recon and if you fail youll still be recon
Infantry not recon*
if you sign a contract for it yea, not if you volunteer at SOI or when you're already in the fleet. hell if you volunteer at SOI you'll just get 11.
I took the 0321 contract. Failed a advance swim course and they just put me as a 03xx and now I’m a 0311
Noah Thompson you enjoy it ?
My son is a Recon Marine, very proud of him serving our country for over 20 years!
Your son is well known to this community. Great man and mentor.
I know that last name! Respect. Your son is a beast.
Maybe you should just be proud of him because he is MARINE... period.
20 years Recon? That is some motivating trash... URT!
Corey was my combat dive school instructor in 2002. Good dude.
My boy followed me into the Marines as a 0351 he did 2 tours in the sangin valley with the 2/5. He is now in force recon, right after graduation his platoon was sent to syria.
Marc Delerson they made one hell of a splash there, if you know the full story
J D what’s the story
@@JD-dm1uj share
Bryan Martinez Unfortunately bother, it’s not out for consumption.
@@JD-dm1uj it be like that sometimes
Being from the state of Hawaii, when I enlisted and got to Georgia I first thought people were lying when they claimed not to know how to swim. It just seemed impossible to me that people wouldn't know how. Back home your parents chuck you into a shallow part of the shore as a toddler so you start treading water at least.
Bro am 18 and went through two swimming lessons and still don’t know how to swim, I guess some people are just not meant to swim😂
@@cut-throat3056 lol
Damn bro that's what's up I'm from Pearl City. Not everyday you encounter someone from Hawaii in the Marine Corps. Most people from the islands go army or air force lol.
@@cm-pr2ys or navy i think
@@cut-throat3056 na that’s what I thought. Learned how to swim at a late age. 13 years old
The documentary is from the West Coast. Recon before MARSOC real difficult to make it, but not impossible. Semper Fi! SSgt Gamba 0369
For USMC swim qual, you don't even necessarily have to tread water, just float lol.
Alberic _ but humans don’t float no?
Desperado we have a bouncy of less then 1 so we do you just need to be on your back
Tread not back float
Use your blouse to float…. When I was in recon school…. You TREAD…. For sure
Failed swim qual 1😢
Funny enough as a POG the swimming looks fine to me. I never understand how people struggle so much with the pool. It’s the 10+ mile ruck runs with 50 pound packs that I would absolutely die on
Because the television show is only showing you the absolute easiest stuff we do. The minimum standard swimming for the course.
Man I love the honesty in your videos bro...I'm a former Army Civil Affairs guy and I tell people our Army and Marine Infantry guys are some of the most squared away killers in the military...Special Operations has become so sensationalized and romanticised in TV and movies that people forget that conventional Infantrymen still get it done...and I tell people everybody doesn't have to be Captain America...dope videos my guy.
Hallelujah to that, Sir!
40 MINUTES OF TREADING?? God damn dude, I was a LIFEGUARD and we had to tread for like 4 minutes. I love to push myself but I dont see that shit ever happening, lol
I am a awful swimmer and I can tread 10 minutes. It ain't that bad just train the endurance. Holy shit just got to that part. In full combat fatigues? That's a whole another best
@@Jabooty_Williams If you are buoyant it is way easier lol. I am buoyant so deep end cards and all that isn't so bad for me. The hardest part for me is the sleep deprivation. Caffeine has no effect on me and I don't use tobacco so I just have to tough it out lol
@@Jabooty_Williams yeah man those combat boots are anchors. They get wet and heavy
It’s 30 not 40
@@UsamaBeenHidin It depends on the deep end card, longest deep end card we did was over an hour. Youre treading with bricks, hands and elbows out, its not a lot of fun.
Sweet video. I Remember Basic Reconnaissance Course and it's was brutal but selection to Marsoc was even pure Hell!
This is a very interesting and thought provoking video. I hope people in the future can use it to get an insider view on Marine infantry and Recon life. Just my .02 cents:
It's peacetime now. If it was wartime, everyone in the conventional Marine Corps (Force Recon included) would be getting some. As such, you gotta pick and choose the road ahead of you. If you sign up with a recon contract, its the quickest way into Recon with no time wasted, but also the riskiest if you fail. If you just go straight leg 03, you can be at your unit for a Year and a Half testing out the water and seeing if you like the infantry and you want to go Recon. You can also try out for Scout/ Sniper or wait another year or so and put in a MARSOC package. That's the slowest and least sexiest but maybe the smartest option if you bare minimum want to be an 03XX.
If you go straight leg infantry, your chances of getting a shitty chain of command and peers are obviously higher than if you went Scout/ Sniper or Recon, as well as not getting as cool training as they do. Recon Battalions have more Scout/ Sniper qualified Marines than infantry battalions do in their Scout/ Sniper Platoons. You'd get to the fleet quicker and get out of the Marine Corps faster if you went straight infantry. 7th Marines is probably the most squared away and tough Marine Infantry unit right now, seeing as they never quite stopped deploying to the middle east, but you will have to put up with being in 29 Palms.
Security Forces can be cool, and I recommend 1st FAST Company out of all the choices. Presidential Security is a unique opportunity, but you won't deploy, and it is very stressful. PRP is typically regarded as the worst assignment in USMC Security Forces because they don't deploy anywhere, but you will have more time to do college. If you go PRP, make sure you get on the RTT. FAST is probably the most exciting and promising option, and I mention 1st FAST because with 2nd FAST, Marines are going to Japan anyway on MEUs and UDPs from both east coast, Hawaii, and west coast units. With 3rd FAST, you're going to be sweating your ass off in Bahrain. Tie the heat in with the fact that ALL THREE FAST companies don't get a lot of action because they're defensive and reactionary (as opposed to offensive and proactive), and you might feel you wasted your two years. Different strokes for different folks, but I'd want to be in Spain for 6 months vice the hot ass desert. 1st FAST all the way, and hopefully you get to go to CQB school and Cuba as well.
Scout/ Snipers seem to get the shortest end of the stick when it comes to the "elite" Marine communities. They are really where the rubber meets the road, as they had to come up in a straight leg infantry unit (imagine being in 29 Palms- fuck your life) their whole time. They don't get cool training and relaxed standards until they pass SSBC. Even then, the unit isn't a Scout/ Sniper Battalion, it's a infantry battalion. Cool training and common sense often takes a back seat to the daily infantry grind. This is why I mention that being a Scout/ Sniper qualified Marine in a Recon Battalion is probably a more rewarding opportunity (rewarding for your efforts) vice being a Scout/ Sniper qualified Marine in a Infantry battalion. I mean, even if you were a Scout/ Sniper in an Infantry Battalion, you'd still have to go through BRC to get to Recon. Scout/ Sniper qualified Recon Marines have no such hurdle, should they somehow or someway go to an infantry battalion. Scout/ Snipers outside of Recon don't get jump or dive schools, and so on and so on. Just something to consider.
Many people seem to consider going Recon a poor choice when MARSOC exists. I think that they would be wise to take a serious look at Recon again though. Unlike MARSOC, Recon has a part time component in 4th Recon Battalion and 4th Force Recon Company. If you want to be a Raider but part time while you got out after your first contract to go to school, well, it isn't possible. MARSOC has no reserve component. Recon also has a much shorter training process, being about 4 months with RTAP and BRC, vice 8 months with A&S and ITC. I'm not too sure about BRC, but with ITC, another big thing you have to consider is that you can pass all the training and make it through to the end just to not get selected at the selection board. Imagine passing the hardest training the USMC has to offer, and you didn't make it through and now you're going back to the MOS you tried to leave. Recon also has a location in Okinawa (active) and a location in Hawaii (reserve) if that appeals to you. MARSOC does not, and if MARSOC actually does move to Lejeune, then Recon will have the nice sunny beaches and beautiful women of San Clemente, CA all to themselves. If being on the east coast is a deal breaker for you, you may not want to go MARSOC. Apart from the Raiders, Recon is really and truly the next best unit to be in in the USMC. You have a much higher chance of doing things like Scout/ Sniper School, Airborne School, Ranger School, even the Exchange Program with Royal Marines where you can complete things like their Commando Course, Mountain Leader Course, and Sniper Course. They're the next best place to be under MARSOC, regardless of if Recon/ Force Recon is in SOCOM or not. Whether it's peacetime or wartime, a Recon Marine is going to have more opportunities than straight leg infantry. If you don't like how MARSOC limits you in terms of training time, the selection board, lack of duty stations, and lack of a part time option, and you want to stay Marine, go Recon. Recon was holding it down before MARSOC came around, and they're still a solid unit to be in with a on average higher quality of Marine and better treatment. You don't have to leave the Marine Corps after your first enlistment for the Army if you don't want to.
Join for the hikes guys. Hikes are so much fun, such beautiful scenery and a relaxing walk……. So fun dude…..
I have to compliment you on your humility. Most grunts try to sell themselves as superheroes.
And like you said, infantry first, then decide if you really want that 0321 mos.
I told my son who’s an aviator to be calm as you can underwater watch your bubbles. Of course easy 4 me I spend most of life in dark hot places ff/ medic & cold ,dark ,wet environments-rescue diver. The only thing I can say is never quit me we go as a team ‘ push it if you say you can’t ,you mentally quit without trying ! 30 years later I still work to get better ! I did 12 wks of Fire academy @ 43 yo most of my class wasn’t even out of grade school. Recon is a level up ! But you earned the title marine !! So never forget what you got !🇺🇸 Semper fi 🇺🇸 Proud of all our military !
Former 8654 ( I realize that some MOS’s have changed) here, 1st Force Recon, jump and dive qual. If I could do it then you can too. All you have to do is “do it” don’t “think about it”.
Just swore in at MEPS. Awaiting my 0321 contract. Getting as hyped up on recon as I can
You won’t make it
Just do Infantryman instead
@@manuel26371001 Dont be like that.
I’m going infantry. Good luck bro
@@manuel26371001 its true
As a former US Army Long Range Surveillance Team Scout, I had the opportunity to cross train with some Recon Marines. Great group of guys. We both benefited from the training. I admit, they swam a lot more than we did. Our vectors of approach were a bit reversed. We concentrated more on air, land and sea. The Recon Marines concentrated more on sea, air and land. Great training! They are my brothers forever. Semper fi Devil Dogs. Rangers Lead The Way! Airborne All The Way!
Thank you for your kind words ranger, Semper fi 1833 0352 0311
A couple infantry platoons beat the shit out of a recon company in Japan 2013.
Let me guess...Camp Schawb
dont count yourself out just yet hoss. Im doing infantry first then recon, hope to see you there
Could you try and get a recon marine in the Chanel one day dude. That would be dope hearing their own personal experiences.
40 minutes of treading water?!!! Damn, man. Nope, RECON is not as easy as I thought. This one would definitely push my boundaries.
Amazing review, Trell 👌
Marine recon sounds awesome. I have done a lot of reading and have found that the recon marines seem to not go out on a lot of “missions” and are severely under-used. I am still deciding wether or not to join
Ive read all the same thing, they’re history and just the aspect in general of a recon marine sounds badass though.
Think about it again though. As a brand new Recon Marine, you are going to be WAY TOO BUSY to have the time, experience, and self awareness to notice you're underutilized. Matter of fact, you're going to be WAY too excited that you passed BRC and you're on to Airborne School, or you passed SERE and you're finally getting to your first Marine Corps unit, let alone your first Recon unit, as a Recon Marine. From there, you're again going to be way too busy to realize what's going on around you because Recon Marines have a high skill level and huge skillset (think toolbox). Your head is going to be down in your work trying to keep up and prove your worth on your Recon Team and show all the senior and more experienced Recon Marines you actually belong. Save the noticing of disappointment for later when you have downtime. In the meantime, youve got BRC and the follow on schools, Scout/ Sniper Training, Ranger School, Joint Ops with foreign militaries (South Korean Recon Marines, Filipino Force Recon Marines, Thai Recon Marines, etc.). Don't put the cart before the horse, as they say. Relish in your moment of passing BRC and achieving your dream, because it only comes around once.
@@cm-pr2ys thanks for your comment brother
I'm headed out to ITB next week. How difficult is it to transfer to recon once you hit the fleet? I've heard they usually take volunteers during ITB, but as you said gaining some experience first would be nice
You get to do the Indoc while in SOI. Pass it and you’re in! Going later on after in the fleet is much harder
YESSSSS what i’ve been waiting for !!!!!!!!!
I have a friend of mine who's 71 years old 35 year marine recon vet 4 tours in Vietnam the stories he tells are absolutely astonishing
Got my 0321 contract. I leave next month.
Best of luck bro
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How did that go?
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He’s probably a cook now.
Fun fact rudy reyes( force recon and was on generation kill) once said that we have sometimes black class which no one graduates.
Yo homie you should do this for similar ones in the series like scout sniper and army rangers !
I mean the ranger are a tier 2 unit that wouldn’t be a fair comparison a scout sniper vs a sniper in the 82nd would be better.....
@@frankcastle5285 lol Force Recon is also tier 2... and that doesn't really mean anything anyway. It's just a designation. Hardcore training is still hardcore training. I'm just saying it would be cool to see him compare his time in the corps to some of the other cool jobs in the military.
XMD_DARKMANX_DMX I mean you said scout sniper nothing about force recon
@@XMDDarkManXDMX Force Recon isn't tier 2. It's not even a SOCOM unit. And he should just speak about things he knows. I assume he doesn't know much about Army Rangers.
BrianT175 Are you Brian175 from reddit? Lol cool to see you here
I really hope that if you get a recon contract for your first enlistment, that you can put in that contract a secondary MOS just in case you fail or quit somewhere in the Recon pipeline.
Ship out to Parris Island July 20 going 03 want to be a 31 can’t wait!!! Might see trell in the fleet
Pray you don't get stationed in Lejeune man.
Good luck brother, I used to be with 3/5 machine guns and now I’m with 1/4 Alpha Raiders
Windwaker202 why do people say Lejeune sucks
Doctor Detroit I figured that one out😬😂
Becoming a Reconnaissance Marine is the greatest achievement of my life. I went into boot camp as contract recon. I Got dropped for failing a written test. Still graduated and served 4 years at 2nd Recon Battalion Camp Lejeune, NC.
Met some of the finest men to ever walk this planet. Semper Fidelis.
Much respect to you man, you did something I probably couldn't do.
Any tips
Maybe your proudest accomplishment should have been earning the title, " US Marine". I think i see clearly now why the Marine Corps is starting to follow down the same road as the US Army. God help us.
I didn't go to indoc or recon school. I was at the right place at the right time. I was a Infantrymen and was designated marksmen, and there was a 3rd Battalion 3rd regiment Recon Platoon, specifically a direct action battalion, I was over watch for my platoon and one of their senior hogs noticed my skillset and asked me if I wanted to join in on a op, I said yes sir, I wanna bring the rain. Before I know it, I was 0317 In Afghanistan with elite operators
Dang I wish that could happen to me
@@TrelltheGreat it's was sheer luck. I happen to be at the right place at the right time. I didn't go to indoc or BRC I literally was given the title because of necessity and war fortunate for to receive the opportunity
@David Bury was it nick? He interviewed with Shawn Ryan
Good shit Devil.
Our Staff Sergeant in Okinawa came to us from Force Recon, coolest motherfucker in our company, Fox Co 2/5...
@David Bury hardest is tge pool, water will humble you...but most Marine 0300 are capable of getting assigned if they pass the pool part...
If you’re interested in the infantry you should consider us army 75th ranger regiment. You can get it contracted as a boot. You get airborne qualified and be part of the SOF community. They are the infantry standard. You get the best of both worlds, infantry and special operations combined.
yes sir that's exactly where im going and then one day get invited into CAG
Why would someone downgrade from US Marine to Army deRanger?
@@HarryPost-o9c rangers are part of jsoc. If you’re force recon or marsoc then you can talk shit
Thanks this really helped me out alot im talking to a recruiter and im going to meps next week this helped me make my decision can’t wait to ship out!
How'd it go?
hey man good stuff. i ship in less than 2 weeks now and been with your channel since day one pretty much. tons of useful info from you bro. going down on the 03 contract hopefully becoming an 0331 machine gunner. June 8th 2020 starts a new journey. thanks for all the help if i don’t see another video when i leave. until then, peace out and see you on the other side
Great video. Thanks for the videos. Very educational for my son.
Glad to help
Holy shit since I’ve returned you’ve grown, I shipped out January 27th golf company graduated April 24th
Leland Jumper Rahh💪
I can say in 89 the selection test for 1st Force was not fun. Each evolution was back to back no breaks. If you made the physical portion you still had to pass the interview. Unless it changed to get to Force you had to have at least completed a deployment with your unit (Grunts)
They have reconnaissance contracts
Hi Trell. Lovely video. 🙌
Definitely look forward to breaking my limits
I’m a Force Recon Marine I went through ARS in 2000 and I’ve never been prouder to serve as a Force Recon Marine started with echo 4th Recon then after 9-11 joined 1st recon alpha I appreciate you Devil showing the world about US cause nobody really knows about US but SEMPER FI FROM ONE OF THE FEW AND THE PROUDER A FORCE RECON MARINE
Great video!
Marine Corps Infantry was the best time of my life. No regrets.
Facts
Same here. So I ended up going back for more and again and again no regrets
@@TrelltheGreat scout swimmers and scout snipers are 0311
I was baby Recon as I went SOI direct to RIP. It was when they went from ARS and BRC to just BRC. I was in the second class.
Any tips for training for recon
I see things have changed since the 80's. Treading water for basic swim qual in boot camp was a lot longer than four minutes. Anyway for recon there was no recruitment contract for a tryout then. You got invited to try by your Bn command and only an infantry MOS could go to Indoc. So you had to be one squared away and capable Marine to be invited. ARC on the east coast was no joke and that video is awesome about BRC which is on the west coast. As for the attrition rate, I didn't see that high of a percentage but then again everyone there was a well accomplished infantry marine of at least an E3 in rank and one deployment. But that was in peace time so in war time the pipeline adapts. Back then everyone wanted to be there and trained for it. 2nd Force Recon Indoc included a 26.2 mile run. Minimum 5 years in and they drew from BN recon. Oh and they reached out to you personally.
Great video!
I wish i had went recon or Raider.
Life as a regular 03 kinda sucked most of the time.
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Facts
Can y’all switch to recon one you in the fleet
@@marcuse7261 ya...when i was in, you could. they recruited from infantry units.
Def continue the recon series
Trell ur subscribers are going up fast from 2k to 6k 👏👏👏👏
Nice video. The only thing I would add is Recon is not apart of Marsoc. The only thing that’s in marsoc (Marine special operations command) is the Raiders, and we fall under SOCOM which is the Army (we are still apart of the marine corps just take orders from both the Marine Corps and the army basically). In fact. An 0321 isn’t even special operations, they are “special operations capable” They are just a glorified grunts. So that also means you probably won’t go to jump school and free fall school and combat diver school while being in the pipeline. Because then you’re considered an 0326. And those are the guys who jump out of planes and do the shit everyone thinks recon does. So you probably won’t become an 0326 until after you check into your unit.
I am so sorry about Marines that are just glorified grunts. How awful that must be for you to associate with mere peasants like the grunts. Yuck. Another idiot!
Every Rifle Company conducts reconsonance. It's basically the first riule of Intelligence gathering for the Rear Echelon to establish its forward advance strategy and its rule of engagement to the Company commanders.
However the Marines actually have a specific Reconansance Mos. You'll have to qualify and you must pass three month's of intense Combat training.
Marines must earn other accolades, and that is Airborne wings, as well as Deep water divers Accolades.
Upon successful completion, that Marine will recieve these two Badges of Recognition.
Good Luck to all those who dare to desire to become the elite Msrine Combat fighter.
wow...i went thru recon and pass as a 0311...and received a recon badge for passing the training. this was in the early 1970 i thought all marines had to pass recon training...i guess they must have stopped somewhere along the time line? P.S my foto to the left is my car with marine corps lic-plates
Thanks
I was a 3rd. Recon Team leader in 1980 Okinawa Japan.
I went through everything training wise, as Force Recon, because all of my Instructors were Force Recon..
However being regular Marine infantry you can do some stuff similar to recon like become a scout swimmer or certified coxswain, I got certified in both. But yes Recon is next level no doubt!
Facts
We did those certifications at Fox Co 2/5, good shit when you are always busy learning good shit...infantry is hard as fuck but it can be fun...
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I've been interested in this but I'm not sure if i should shoot for it,,but i ship out next june for Infantry💪💪
If you fail out of Recon you go to the infantry. Most get sent to STA plt.
What's that
@@MrStaybrown snipers
@@derek6817 gotcha 👌
Honestly I wanna really join recon once I’m old enough to serve. Its my dream even though the training is harsh I still wanna do it.
But once I serve I’m not sure about the requirements or how I join it.
You will go to your local recruiter, tell him/her that you want a recon contract, pass the minimum requirements for that contract and then you will be on your way to boot and then BRC. Just know that if you fail out of BRC you will get put in whatever MOS the corps needs you in. I’ve met a lot of “recon drops”. Best of luck to you though!
@@PlagueRiddenBlightSpawn probably safer to go in as an infantryman and roll into recon afterwards then? I'm looking at going into the Corps, specifically recon, and I'm trying to figure out what the right job is. My concern is that I scored into the 92nd percentile on my ASVAB, but I desperately don't want to get saddled in a desk job.
@L7M yeah, that's the plan. I have time so I'll be able to 100% get that contract. Any idea how it works to get into recon? Specifically, can I go right out of infantry school or is there a shitton of MOS paperwork that I have to wait to reenlist to do? It's my understanding that recon is an MOS of its own, which is why it seems a bit more confusing than, say, Army Rangers.
@@tk4625 I am currently looking to go recon have been speaking with my recruiter and was in the 70% on asvab how did things go for you?
@@tk4625 I am currently looking to go recon have been speaking with my recruiter and was in the 70% on asvab how did things go for you?
All it takes is all you got. You can pass it if you train and want it enough. 0321
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Funny I guess infantry has changed over the years. When I was infantry…I did everything. Zodiacs, S.P.I.E. Rigged many times, Helo cast, trailer platoon, Fast rope, T.R.A.P, HRST, Adv. Inf., C.A.S. And much much more. I’ve also had numerous attachments pre 9/11 and post 9/11. All my Marines were WSQ swimmers including myself but I was in a smaller contingent. i’m not just talking training but forward deployed ops. It all comes down to your unit and how they decide to employ you and quotas available. I was the last of the Dragons and first Javelins from Raytheon in the Corps. It also depends whether not you’re a shitbird or not.
I was an 0351 Dragon gunner with Weapons 3/6 and then went over to Weapons Plt, India Co. 3/6 as a SMAW gunner. I can tell you from personal experience all the difference is the NCO's and SNCO's in your company. 3/6 was a MEUSOC unit in 1992. WE did all that special ops training too, Zodiacs, Fast roping , etc. It isn't the unit that you are in that makes you elite it's the training. Having some cool sounding badass name like MARSOC doesn't mean shit to me.
Should've had a 0321 guest to speak on what they do.
Hands down what the Marine Corps GCE ought to be centered around...
Real eye opener
This looks like the Marine version of BUD/S
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So do you pick recon at recruiting or is that an opportunity presented while you're enlisted? If so are there certain jobs that do and don't get the offer and what determins it?
Do a video on the one where the marine falls out of the ruck March and quits in sapper school and the female soldier graduates 😂 I’m assuming he had to compete against his peers in some way to get a slot and that is what they sent?
The boats called a zodiac btw
BRC sucked, but making the jump from RECON to Force Recon is way harder. Army Ranger School, Army Pathfinder School, Army Airborne school, static line jumps, free falls, HAlOS, AND HAHOS, Scuba School, Combat Diver School, SERE, Mountain Warfare, Jungle Warfare, Jungle Survival, Intelligence Training, Counter Intelligence, Counter Terrorism, Unconventional Warfare, Urban Warfare, Basic EOD, Trauma Training.
Are you recon
Nice
Great Job.... Semper Fi
How do you get into RTT? And should I do security forces or will I hate my life? I’m also thinking about going motor t. Thx for the vids man
as in (usmc) FAST? if you join FAST you will still eventually be sent to an infantry battalion.
Always faithful Always forward
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And then there is the o341 that gets a o845 spot.
Good luck getting blessed like that. It is a spot you can get your jump wings though, if you go in with field craft and able to climb the rope in ten seconds.
great vid bro and thank u for your service
Can you do more videos on recon training?
I just like the name, marine force recon, it sounds cool as hell!
What is the difference between recon marines and marine raiders
And if you fail recon do you have to go infantry
holy fuck. I am hunbled
Same
i fw your vids bro
Thanks
I think the hardest core in the world would be Marine National Guard
So, yes try to go into Recon, because you will be Infantry anyway if you wash out...
Wow. it is a scary try out. I thought they would take more times to get used to inside water before they are ready but it doesn't happen. My cousin was an infantryman in the Marine Corps.
Do this for Navy seals, make this a series
I knew Crawford back when he was a Cpl. BRC 3-96
How do you join the marine recon ? Do you need a score high on ASVAB ?
105 Gt last time I checked
Can you do Marine security guard? There's really no videos about them on RUclips
I was an 8156 MSG Battalion . During school in Quantico they would tell us they are short in Europe but when we got our orders most got the middle east.
Marc Delerson do you see officers in a msg position? I’m on track to going to ocs and want to be an msg officer but I heard it mostly an enlisted mos
When’s the next time you’ll do a live Q&A
Do you know how many meals and how much sleep you get in marine recon?
No I don't
I’m the dude that ask you if you joining recon or raiders on yo insta live 🤣🤣🤣
You should do scout sniper or Marsoc next
What happens if you don’t qualify for your MOS but you still want to be in the Marines
Wym not qualify
Trell the Great if you don’t meet the standards
Damn that's fucking hardcore
Dude, I was 03/11. Fast roping, swimming Onslow beach all the time. In Zodiacs. All this in my first year. What the hell do you do in infantry?
I’m already Air Force invested but I’m just curious, if you go recon from infantry and fail out do you re-class back into infantry?
i foolishly quit college and enlisted in the Corps i earned both of my MOS's 03/11 & my 2'nd 03/21 but during my wild youth as a grunt ( 03/11 ) we believed that the only real difference between an 03/21 & an 03/11 was the jump and basic scuba school othee than that it was marine corps training and the wild youthful arrogance of the grunt and brotherhood that led the way to all the other portals that get 1' to the benning jump sch and the other schs that make 1' a member of the golden wing's they used to have Btn recon , for recon , anglico and the S/Snipers they tell me that many old units have been disbanded and lumped in to the new mar soc's and by big $$$ and many new disciplines of the war trade it's a whole new animal but the may change a few things but it always keeps its history
0311 can be scout swimmers and scout sniper
First off, people talk about SOCOM tier 2 and 1 units and think Marine Recon is somehow less than tier 2, nothing could be further from the truth. Recon is not part of SOCOM. Recon and Force Recon is the MAGTF's personal SOCOM. Recon is called "Special Operations Capable." And they are. People think because they are not SOCOM, that the training is any less grueling and less intense than SOCOM units. Nothing, could be further from the truth. In fact, and yes, I'll say it twice, in fact. The Navy looked to the 1950's Force Recon to use as a template for establishing and developing their SEAL program for turning UDTs into SEALs. SEALs hell week is a minor page out of Force Recon selection etc. from the 1950's. Marine Recon has a different mission and customer than SOCOM units. Recon is dedicated to the overall mission of the Marine Corps through the MAGTF/MEU.
Question. I want to join cuz I’m at a wall and need guidance my x left me for another man and got nothing else better to do with my life. I’m 24 and I had my left shoulder dislocated 4 times it been 7 years sense then . Will my current problem show up In boot camp should I go my grandpa was a marine for 23 years and a Sargent and Aviation . He wants to go with me and sit with the recruiter idk if thire a perk to having him with me
Definently go with the gramps he will make sure you dont get screwed
I would bring him and as long as your shoulder is healthy you should be good
Ok thank you for ur advice
You should've ate her out more and she wouldn't have left you
Trell the Great thanks
Ok so this is a completely irrelevant question, but does the barracks have WiFi? Or is that something you have to buy?
Yes and you have to pay for it
Trell the Great cool thanks! What’s like the general amount? Cuz I’m thinking about joining when I’m old enough
If you can't run with the big dogs stay on the porch..SEMPER FI, 2d Recon,80-84.been there done that
Seeing recon ridge made me so glad i didnt sign a recon contract
You wouldn’t had made it anyway
manuel26371001 i feel like i could if i put my mind to it, but i dont wanna get slayed, im already infantry and thats a slay within itself
@@manuel26371001 Neither would you
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@@manuel26371001you wouldn't even make it through navy boot camp chubby
Yo INF is sad man go recon or go nowhere this is coming from a INF dude take it or leave it.
recon vs MARSOC?
there is a video on that from nick. but ill break it down. Recon Marines fall under the Marine Corps so when u go on a MEU you as a Recon Marine take orders from that command Recon Marines are not special operations but Special operation capable they can do direct action ship boarding etc.
MARSOC(Raiders) they fall under USSOCOM and they are the special ops for Marines and do direct action etc etc
ruclips.net/video/nBOrclf6rwA/видео.html
Recon has more physical requirements
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