I always figured Miyagi taught Daniel this way specifically because Daniel wanted to learn karate after getting into a few fights. It's completely normal to want to learn to defend yourself, but it's also easy to want vengeance after being attacked. Miyagi teaches Daniel the motions, but more importantly, he gives Daniel a safe space to process his thoughts and emotions after moving to a new place, being without his father, and struggling to make friends. Regulating your breathing is important for exercise, but it's also really important for mental clarity. Chores may not be the best way to learn to defeat opponents but they do create a well rounded individual who can balance the various aspects of their life with their martial arts. This is in direct opposition to the Cobra Kai style that is much more efficient in teaching technique but lacks empathy, sportsmanship, or general mindfulness.
I always figured he did it because there was not enough time to really teach Daniel the basics, so building up his muscles and muscle memory and toughening him up for a more experienced opponent was the best chance Daniel could have
Man, I'm still waiting for the day Seth trains like the Avatar. I can imagine him picking a technique from each Kung Fu style used in each bending art and then use them in sparring. Would be so sick.
I had this same idea! I'm a Chen Taiji and Baguazhang practitioner if Seth's listening and I'd love to help out with this (or maybe explore it myself if he doesn't).
Gotta admire Seth. That waxing bit came into his head and he wrote it down. I'm sure he passed it through his wife. He drove to the location where his cameraman filmed him walking in and out. He then watched the video while editing, and again before posting. At every turn, you know he thought to himself "this bit is hella stupid..." and at no point did he decide to take it out. The video is almost 20 minutes long, it's not even like he needed to pad it.
The Myagigi method can also be applied to judo, though it involves carrying your gym bag full of heavy things, grabbing things from low shelves when shopping, shooing the cat out of the kitchen with your foot and basically helping all your friends move house and offering to carry the fridge and freezer ;)
18:16 30 years ago, I was an arrogant kid in his mid 20s. My master knew this, so he had me wipe the dojo floor and clean the mirrors every night after class. I was so angry, but wanted to continue training, so I kept my mouth shut and clean that dojo. Little did I know that he was teaching me humility. Thank you Master.
The thing I reckon they got right in the movie, was the mechanism of learning. The nature of the chores aside, Miyagi has Daniel do essentially what Karateka do in the Dojo. Repetition, and more repetition until they build up muscle memory, and the move becomes instinctive, reactionary. It's essentially Kihon. The blocks themselves are questionable, but I did appreciate the delivery system.
The day after the Karate Kid _first appeared on TV,_ my instructor told us to get into combat stance, and a bunch of us all got into that crane pose with one leg and both arms held high. The class lost it ......
It was at this moment that we all remembered, Mr. Miyagi and Mr. Han were right. The “Jacket On/Off” from Karate kid (2010) is to teach the Chinese concept of Wulong Panda, a common technique in kung fu that is used to break out of clinches and headlocks
"If I complete all of these, I'll be the best . . . 🎵around🎵" Nothing's ever gonna keep you down, Seth! Also, I owned a copy of The Karate Kid on VHS, so yeah, I'm old enough to know what a VCR is (or was). That original song by Joe Esposito is a banger, though.
I practiced karate as a kid and loved the Karate Kid movies, but stopped when I moved back to my home country when I stared junior high. When I was in high school a student who had been learning “kung fu” wanted to test my skills and was being really obnoxious about it, so I said I would allow one attack (hadn’t practiced for years and didn’t really care about the outcome). He decided to throw a jab and to my own amazement I instinctually blocked it with an upwards paint the fence. The guy then tried to sucker punch me with a straight right which was countered with a downwards paint the fence, followed by a roundhouse countered by a wax on to grab the leg and sweep. I hope Pat Morita/Mr. Miyagi would have had a laugh at that.
As a fly I can confirm we have all seen Karate Kid. This movie was panned by our critics as picking us with chopsticks is generally seen as a dick move in fly culture
American flies are hard to catch with chopsticks. You need to start with Shanghainese flies. They’re slow and have lost their will to live. That only sounds like a joke, but it’s 100% true.
Another great video. I watched The Karate Kid in the theater for my 7th birthday. It was great. 1982-1992 was a pretty awesome movie era in general. And, the awesome (B-level usually) martial arts movies were at their peak. Good times. When people like you make me feel a little old, I just remind myself that there are also people who think YOU are old. And, like yourself they will remind you every chance that they get. Stay young champ.
Love your stuff Seth, here are a few takes for the video about the fly catching and hammer nail exercises: -Fly Snatching and punches: Snatching a fly can potentially teach the principles used leading up to snap punches and a bit on range: you must remain loose until you've extended and constrict your hand at the last moment. Chopsticks can emphasize this contrast further if you hold them correctly because your fingers will be positioned to clench as a fist correctly and you'll naturally lead with your first two knuckles. For a westerner who doesn't use chopsticks a lot, I think bare-handedly grabbing/snatching a fly could be a more intuitive way for the connection to be realized, but you risk losing form with the wrist being able to unwittingly bend or torque (can unconsciously lead with knuckles three and four). Mosquitos are an easier start btw. -Hammer and Nail-precision and force, plus internal martial art "zen spirit" cultivation stuff. For the hammer and nail exercise especially (and possibly all the other activities though perhaps neglectfully done), I get a sort of internal martial art "cultivating zen spirit" kinda vibe from it that we especially see emphasized in Kyudo where correct/truthful form, virtuous right relationship, and grace/elegance/beauty emerge are core teachings to get that. Plus for an absolute beginner who's never really used their body for physical labor - not to mention even fighting, it potentially isolates a lot of variables to teach a balance of accuracy, precision, and appropriately controlled application of force in addition to patience and focus with consistency. At least for a very specific range with the arm extended, you're basically set up to do the mechanics of a one-inch punch. Wrapping it up: Western attitudes tend to miss how emergent some Eastern approaches to teaching and learning can be. Yes there's the practical reality of just doing the motions and learning fighting by fighting. But even for some sects of monks they're given basic tasks to do without knowing explicitly intended teachings are connected to them until years later (like 8 or 10!) the translation of an associated sutra might be provided. A lot of garden tools were adapted as weapons for combat among peasants and in ninjutsu. So movements for shoveling/pitching or using a trowel can use similar motor skills and imply basic form for using a spear or dagger. So a lot of domestic and mundane motions do have some martial art utility + teachings which can or do emerge from them but the hype around dividing the Internal vs. Practical external qualities to martial arts and their context often makes us lose sight of what's actually happening. A kid who barely did any of those combative or manual labor things in good form will be learning something either way even if it's just getting acquainted with their body and developing some muscle memory. Not a substitute for the rest of training and sparring, but there is a teaching likely to be garnered nonetheless. And acquainting someone with the temperament to control their power is a dimension that comes through by doing this stuff if there's some intention realized along the way.
I don't like starting, but once I do, I really like sweeping for some of the reasons you mentioned. Doing a whole house is more physical exertion than you'd think, and you have to switch up sides to stay balanced, you can't be winging the broom around and flinging dust, you have to be mindful and accurate the whole time to do a good job. I can see teaching a kid to sweep just to acquaint them with all those principles.
Fabulous video! Your humour always brightens my day! I’m not nearly old enough to have seen it in theatres, but my parents got a multi-DVD collection of the OG 1-3 + the one with the gal (I think it was The Next Karate Kid). It’s been so long since I saw them that now this video has made me wanna watch those again. The ice-breaking challenge with those slabs was one of my favourites, though I never tried myself. As an aside, one of the bunkai I think I learned for paint-the-fence years ago was as part of a response to someone grabbing your wrist - either to break their grip or grab their wrist in return. It was always done pretty forcefully, and it reminds me now of the grappling bunkai that Jesse Enkamp and Ramsey Dewey have mentioned in their own stuff. All that being said, thanks for another great upload! And if I haven’t said so before, congrats on the marriage!
Also... CONGRATULATIONS to you and the new Mrs Sensei 😍 May your love have the loyalty of Daniel/Amanda LaRusso, the passion of Johnny/Carmen, and the timeless eternity of Miyagi/Yukie 💕
flies take off backwards, put your sticks slightly behind the rear legs if you wanna catch. if you clap with your hands using this principle this is actually easier than smacking them since it works with the aerodynamics of the fly rather than against them.
Nah man. You gotta train like Cobra Kai. Suits your American style karate. Jump across buildings, shovel coal, climb chains, kick watermelons, run in a cement truck, and most importantly...use an electric sander lolol
No, it beat me to theaters by a couple years, but I remember watching it on VHS daily every summer vacation until I was 12. Also: you made a video of doing your chores and put a sponsor in. You mad genius.
Haha this was fun! Quick comment on the nail bit. I think it's less to do with that being an optimal way to hammer a nail, and more about trying to show the importance of concentrating any exerted energy only on where you need it to go and nowhere else. I believe that's what they're getting at.
It's a type of punch practiced in some goju-ryu styles. Raise your hands like you'd take up a guard, but then raise them so your tri-ceps are basically parallel with the floor. Make your hands in relaxed fists, and imagine each is holding a hammer, and there's a board in front of you with a nail sticking out. Hammer the nail, keeping good leg, hip, shoulder, and elbow connection with your center. What you end up doing is dropping your weight into your fist, and extending that weight forward along the path of a punch. The heavier you imagine that hammer to be, the quicker your punch will go. The stiffer you imagine the board to be, the heavier your punch will land. Noiw imagine you've just done the upward motion of the painting the fence, and then hammer the nail. Or wax off, then hammer down. Or sand the floor (which in addition to the geidan-barai Seth mentioned, can also be thought of as a low / medium parry across your body as before the nukite in heian nidan or pinan nidan), then hammer down, except your plane of hammering is rotated. It's a very solid punch for close range encounters, which goju ryu (whose founder is the inspiration for Miyagi's character) tends to favor.
I was 2 years old when Karate Kid 1 first released, so I wached that movie in the TV when I was a teenager. I'm also not finished all the series of the Cobra Kai yet. But, one year ago, I need to paint my wall, and I did it with the Miyagi method in Karate Kid film. It was fun and nostalgic.
Love the idea of putting movie training to the test. Years ago some of my friends and I trained like the movie Dodgeball and competed in a dodgeball tournament and did pretty well. But yes, in practice, movie training is going to look a lot different in real life, but the same goes for a lot of stuff put in a fast-paced, hectic scenario. Which is probably why when Daniel finally competes a lot of his chore-based moves are almost non-existent and he instead relies on whatever other moves Mr. Miyagi teaches him off screen.
Btw in winch chun the sanda floor is Gang sau, and the wax on/off is the Tan sau, it's wonderful how similar wing chun is to karate, yesterday spared my brother, he still has no idea what I'm doing and why it works, 😂😂, he wants me to teach him those moves, Karate and Wing chun are great martial arts, but their practisioners should do sparring sessions always, pressure test will define your skills by the end of the sessions
I had am aikido teacher tell stories about going drinking with his sensei before moving to the US from Japan. His sensei would explain breaking wrist locks then gaining control by pouring sake while they shared drinks. Listening to his stories was fun... very classic martial arts movie stuff.
I’m a shotokan practitioner. We don’t do chores either :). But I found an article about the movie a couple of years ago, an interview with the screen-writer. The name “Mr Miyagi” is a tribute to Chogun Miyagi, the founder of Goju-Ryu style of Okinawan karate because that was the style he learned as a kid. But many traditional dojos in Okinawa are small, because they’re in a sensei’s house//living room, can’t fit many students and sometimes taught free of charge (some still keep that tradition). So, the students help him clean before and after training. They didn’t ask in the article whether the chores help with techniques. But in my personal experience doing house chores, is definitely a workout 💪 💪 😂😂
It so cool you did this! The moves do remind me of a few things. In Isshin Shorinji Ryu they call it the Soft Blocks when it involves soft parts of the hand used to redirect an attack and Hard Blocks when it uses hard parts of the arm to block or strike the incoming limb. The wax on and wax off stuff resembles somewhat the circular redirections of Goju Ryu which moves at a closer range than other styles in particular the Sanchin kata. The "put on your jacket" bid it is a lot like the coming back down the sequence of Pinan Sandan/Heian Sandan. (Shorin Ryu/Shotokan Ryu).
Lots of Naha-te techniques. Love how you applied paint the fence and you're not wrong, bunkai for goju-ryu kata named Tensho - it's all over that kata. Congrats on the marriage!
The technics form Tensho Kata are all the training Daniel-san's painting the fence and the famous wax on wax off. That is what he got. Didn't train much more in the movie. It would be nice to know what influence Fumio Demura had in the technics that can be seen in the movie.
I just started teaching my daughter martial arts at home. We started a RUclips channel. Golden Sunrise Martial Arts. We watch you quite often. Thank you for your videos. I closed my school when we moved from West Virginia to Washington. But doing this RUclips thing has helped. I love teaching but my body says no more . Teaching my daughter is keeping active so I don't get any fatter lol. Congratulations on the marriage and thanks again for the videos.
You have to remember the premise of the movie though Seth. Miyagi had 3 months to get Daniel ready to fight, not years. Every motion of the chores was designed to teach him the gross motor movement. Daniel is a kid who isn’t going to stand there and do thousands of outward blocks without getting bored. So you give him something to do that resembles the motion he has to learn. Waxing five or 6 cars, and having to do it in that motion, is thousands of repetitions of that motion. Which isn’t the same as substituting pulling weeds for sand the floor. Which isn’t the same as pretending to paint half a wall of fence, Daniel would have painted an entire yards worth of fence, “both sides”. So the whole, “Would it work? It’s a movie guys.” Yep sure is, but the principle of the chores is sound. If done in the manner that it would have to be done in real life it would work to teach you and very quickly.
Also, isn’t the point a big plot point that Daniel got VERY BORED because of the chores? He’s clearly a dedicated kid cuz he still stuck around. And as Seth said, deliberate movements are better, why reinforce incorrect technique when it’ll just need to be undone to a large extent?
@@shred1894 and it’s even better to just have correct technique, which there was no reason to forego. Outside of wanting some chores done in return for training, which is honestly valid and based lol. But we’re arguing over a movie plot here, it’s supposed to be a cool story arc, and that is absolutely accomplished.
@@SenseiSeth it does make sense, when the gross motor skill is more important than perfect technique. Repetition. He hasn’t been doing karate since he was 10 like Johnny or five like some of the other kids. He doesn’t even have the gross motor skills those kids have because he doesn’t have the repetitions they have. He’s also not going an hour a day. 2 or 3 times a week. Paint the fence was an all day job, of nothing but paint the fence. When was the last time you or anyone else in the comment section spent all day 8 hours doing only one type of block? That’s what paint the fence, paint the house, wax the car, sand the floor gets Daniel. After that he only needs to be shown what it means and how it works, it’s second nature. In months not years. It’s the same reason guitarists like SRV, Kirk Hammet, etc are so good. That’s ALL they did when they had the time to do only that, when they were young. That’s why they are considered great, not because they were or are so gifted naturally but because of the relentless hours of grind. That’s what that training gives Daniel, is 3 months of relentless grind. Because no one here is doing outward blocks for 8 hours straight unless you don’t know that your doing them while doing something else. It also begins to start your mind in recognizing where your karate movements are no different than many of your everyday movements. If you haven’t noticed there are many things we do in everyday life, that we don’t think of as karate, but if you thought about it long enough….”Huh…. Painting this fence with this brush is the same as…..” once your doing it, and your brain recognizes what it also is, it starts adding it to your nervous system. It’s all about repetition. Way better men than me on the subject have postulated about whether this method would work or not work to teach someone karate. I’ve done been down that rabbit hole, many, many years ago, I’ll let you explore it for yourself, or not it’s a free country.
In my style of Gongfu we use some similar techniques. Paint the fence: Stand with your feet shoulder-width apart and hold a brick in each hand, by the fingers. Move up and down, alternating both sides, using your whole body. After you finish, do it again without the bricks. You will be amazed how much power you can generate. The others follow a similar principle.
Plant or harvest a 10 x 10 rice paddie by hand, alternating between squats and straight leg bows. When a breeze hits, stand tall and close your eyes or take in the horizon, and breathe and meditate in appreciation. Work as a Chinese Wok chef or old-school dishwasher for shoulder development. Work as a massuse to strengthen grip and finger strength. Work as a lumber jack and kick or punch for the final fell (safety might be an issue here). That's 4 days of work. 1 day at the gym and 1 at karate class. Hire a shabbath-goi to massage you on your day of rest. Strong and good at karate, you will become, you will. Oh yeah, and finish the weekend with a rough and heated sparring session doing the horizontal samba with no air-conditioning, for endurance, cardio, and all-around toning.
The part of the movie I like(?) best is the scene where Sgt. Miyagi gets drunk and we learn about the loss of his wife in the internment camps while he's overseas fighting for the USA. That totally could have happened, and probably did. In Japanese culture, from what I've read, it's totally a thing to be able to get drunk with a friend and totally let your hair down with no loss of face. That scene get's me right in the heart every time.
I think Seth needs to do a video where he trains like Rocky Balboa for a day, in which Seth attempts to recreate iconic moments from the training montages of movies I-IV and VI, with Icy Mike being Seth’s coach.
Looked like dude actually caught the fly. Congrats on that. Another method of the wax motion is cleaning a table/counter/cabinet with a rag/towel. Im a server and do it all the time. Granted im right sided so that gets the most reps, but sometimes i switch to my left.
This was very informational I was struggling with my chores before I wanted this video, now I don't do them at all because I just learned that they will never teach me Karate and now I'm depressed. Thanks Sensai Seth.
It was when Sensei Seth realised that he had forgotten the groceries, that he then mastered the art of "track and run" along with negotiation in order to ensure his survival
The nail trick wasn't to teach him patience, it was to teach him focus. Focus was a big part of what Miyagi was trying to teach him in the second movie.
There.are multiple Styles present, but it would be very interesting to see a comparison between the Defensive Style of Miyagi-sensei's Okinawan Karate, Cobra Kai's Aggressive American Karate, and the Military Karate taught to Daniel in the 3rd Movie. These are legit Techniques that are foundational and fundamental to specific Fighting Styles.
I don't mention this early on but I try to use all of the moves I learn in sparring at the end. Thanks for watching!
We need a part 2
Testing cobra kai training
I may be old, but that fucking movie inspired me Seth.
You do know that Mr. Miayagi is based on Chōjun Miyagi, founder of Goju-Ryu. It uses both Hard straight strikes, and soft circular motions..
I always figured Miyagi taught Daniel this way specifically because Daniel wanted to learn karate after getting into a few fights. It's completely normal to want to learn to defend yourself, but it's also easy to want vengeance after being attacked. Miyagi teaches Daniel the motions, but more importantly, he gives Daniel a safe space to process his thoughts and emotions after moving to a new place, being without his father, and struggling to make friends. Regulating your breathing is important for exercise, but it's also really important for mental clarity. Chores may not be the best way to learn to defeat opponents but they do create a well rounded individual who can balance the various aspects of their life with their martial arts. This is in direct opposition to the Cobra Kai style that is much more efficient in teaching technique but lacks empathy, sportsmanship, or general mindfulness.
I always figured he did it because there was not enough time to really teach Daniel the basics, so building up his muscles and muscle memory and toughening him up for a more experienced opponent was the best chance Daniel could have
The movie is more on character development than learning techniques.
Ramsey Dewey has a great video on this titled "Mr. Miyagi: great life advice, terrible karate teacher | Fixing wax on wax off | True muscle memory".
yeah, you're right. the movie skips aside all the sparring and kata they did. they forget that the chores gave him the fundamentals
Man, I'm still waiting for the day Seth trains like the Avatar. I can imagine him picking a technique from each Kung Fu style used in each bending art and then use them in sparring. Would be so sick.
This is such a cool idea!! I hope he sees this.
Shave his head and paint a blue arrow LOL
I would love to see Seth practice Tai Chi (Water), Hung-Gar (Earth, Southern Mantis (Toph’s Earth style), Baguazhang (Air) and Northern Shaolin (Fire)
I had this same idea! I'm a Chen Taiji and Baguazhang practitioner if Seth's listening and I'd love to help out with this (or maybe explore it myself if he doesn't).
Agreed
It's so nice of Seth's wife to let him do chores and finally teach him karate
Congrats on your marriage
I LEARNED TO FIGHT LIKE THE KARATE KID 🏡
Woah who’s the lucky guy
@@BrxProd-ho5ez Guy? 💀
Absolutely! ✊✊👏👏👏🙏🙏
"I'm a recently married man so got plenty of chores" 😂😂😂
Chore #9: survive the wife
Marriage is a chore by itself 😂
@@TheSamuraiRoninindeed, for both partners
Wow, Seth looks good for a 50 year old, I had no idea he saw the Karate kid in theaters.
No way this man is 50
@@miniguy-si6fw True he looks closer to 60
He's 38.. just saying coz I can't understand if you're jokingly or genuinely asking the question?..
@@Mugiwara-w7x wait 38? I thought he was at least 70!
@@Mugiwara-w7x okay boomer
Gotta admire Seth. That waxing bit came into his head and he wrote it down. I'm sure he passed it through his wife. He drove to the location where his cameraman filmed him walking in and out. He then watched the video while editing, and again before posting. At every turn, you know he thought to himself "this bit is hella stupid..." and at no point did he decide to take it out. The video is almost 20 minutes long, it's not even like he needed to pad it.
My dude legit went ‘I have to do chores, I have no time to make a video! ….Unless…..”
The Myagigi method can also be applied to judo, though it involves carrying your gym bag full of heavy things, grabbing things from low shelves when shopping, shooing the cat out of the kitchen with your foot and basically helping all your friends move house and offering to carry the fridge and freezer ;)
Don't forget to help carry the raggedy old sofa that your friend just can't let go.
I used the footsweep to push extra luggage once.
@@junichiroyamashita works pretty good wiping down linoleum for spot cleaning too.
18:16 30 years ago, I was an arrogant kid in his mid 20s. My master knew this, so he had me wipe the dojo floor and clean the mirrors every night after class. I was so angry, but wanted to continue training, so I kept my mouth shut and clean that dojo. Little did I know that he was teaching me humility.
Thank you Master.
Very well said! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👌👌
The thing I reckon they got right in the movie, was the mechanism of learning. The nature of the chores aside, Miyagi has Daniel do essentially what Karateka do in the Dojo. Repetition, and more repetition until they build up muscle memory, and the move becomes instinctive, reactionary. It's essentially Kihon. The blocks themselves are questionable, but I did appreciate the delivery system.
The day after the Karate Kid _first appeared on TV,_ my instructor told us to get into combat stance, and a bunch of us all got into that crane pose with one leg and both arms held high.
The class lost it ......
It was at this moment that we all remembered, Mr. Miyagi and Mr. Han were right. The “Jacket On/Off” from Karate kid (2010) is to teach the Chinese concept of Wulong Panda, a common technique in kung fu that is used to break out of clinches and headlocks
I love your videos sensei Seth and I would truly admire a video about kyokushin
Seconded, as someone who might join a Kyokushin dojo soon
3rd Kyokushin dude here.
@@navinthiyambarawatte5121 3rd what
The Karate Kid. I went to see that in the theater, yes I'm that old. It was one of the best movies of 1984.
I envy you. I was born in 1993 and I missed go seeing my now favorite movies in the theaters.
"If I complete all of these, I'll be the best . . . 🎵around🎵"
Nothing's ever gonna keep you down, Seth! Also, I owned a copy of The Karate Kid on VHS, so yeah, I'm old enough to know what a VCR is (or was). That original song by Joe Esposito is a banger, though.
I think that song was intended for a Rocky movie but didn't make the cut.
I practiced karate as a kid and loved the Karate Kid movies, but stopped when I moved back to my home country when I stared junior high. When I was in high school a student who had been learning “kung fu” wanted to test my skills and was being really obnoxious about it, so I said I would allow one attack (hadn’t practiced for years and didn’t really care about the outcome). He decided to throw a jab and to my own amazement I instinctually blocked it with an upwards paint the fence. The guy then tried to sucker punch me with a straight right which was countered with a downwards paint the fence, followed by a roundhouse countered by a wax on to grab the leg and sweep.
I hope Pat Morita/Mr. Miyagi would have had a laugh at that.
Indeed. They're legit Techniques. 😁😁👊👊
As a fly I can confirm we have all seen Karate Kid. This movie was panned by our critics as picking us with chopsticks is generally seen as a dick move in fly culture
American flies are hard to catch with chopsticks. You need to start with Shanghainese flies. They’re slow and have lost their will to live. That only sounds like a joke, but it’s 100% true.
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Lmao
The man who build me a cabinet in the woods with yakuzi , solar panels , satellite dishes, and all the fornitures, becomes invincible .
My man shortcutted like half of these
Another great video.
I watched The Karate Kid in the theater for my 7th birthday. It was great. 1982-1992 was a pretty awesome movie era in general. And, the awesome (B-level usually) martial arts movies were at their peak. Good times.
When people like you make me feel a little old, I just remind myself that there are also people who think YOU are old. And, like yourself they will remind you every chance that they get. Stay young champ.
Movies started to stop being good around 04-05 I think, but it was a slow burn to the current state we have today.
@@shred1894disagree, lots of movies today are good
Love your stuff Seth, here are a few takes for the video about the fly catching and hammer nail exercises:
-Fly Snatching and punches:
Snatching a fly can potentially teach the principles used leading up to snap punches and a bit on range: you must remain loose until you've extended and constrict your hand at the last moment.
Chopsticks can emphasize this contrast further if you hold them correctly because your fingers will be positioned to clench as a fist correctly and you'll naturally lead with your first two knuckles.
For a westerner who doesn't use chopsticks a lot, I think bare-handedly grabbing/snatching a fly could be a more intuitive way for the connection to be realized, but you risk losing form with the wrist being able to unwittingly bend or torque (can unconsciously lead with knuckles three and four). Mosquitos are an easier start btw.
-Hammer and Nail-precision and force, plus internal martial art "zen spirit" cultivation stuff.
For the hammer and nail exercise especially (and possibly all the other activities though perhaps neglectfully done), I get a sort of internal martial art "cultivating zen spirit" kinda vibe from it that we especially see emphasized in Kyudo where correct/truthful form, virtuous right relationship, and grace/elegance/beauty emerge are core teachings to get that.
Plus for an absolute beginner who's never really used their body for physical labor - not to mention even fighting, it potentially isolates a lot of variables to teach a balance of accuracy, precision, and appropriately controlled application of force in addition to patience and focus with consistency. At least for a very specific range with the arm extended, you're basically set up to do the mechanics of a one-inch punch.
Wrapping it up:
Western attitudes tend to miss how emergent some Eastern approaches to teaching and learning can be.
Yes there's the practical reality of just doing the motions and learning fighting by fighting.
But even for some sects of monks they're given basic tasks to do without knowing explicitly intended teachings are connected to them until years later (like 8 or 10!) the translation of an associated sutra might be provided.
A lot of garden tools were adapted as weapons for combat among peasants and in ninjutsu. So movements for shoveling/pitching or using a trowel can use similar motor skills and imply basic form for using a spear or dagger.
So a lot of domestic and mundane motions do have some martial art utility + teachings which can or do emerge from them but the hype around dividing the Internal vs. Practical external qualities to martial arts and their context often makes us lose sight of what's actually happening.
A kid who barely did any of those combative or manual labor things in good form will be learning something either way even if it's just getting acquainted with their body and developing some muscle memory. Not a substitute for the rest of training and sparring, but there is a teaching likely to be garnered nonetheless. And acquainting someone with the temperament to control their power is a dimension that comes through by doing this stuff if there's some intention realized along the way.
I don't like starting, but once I do, I really like sweeping for some of the reasons you mentioned. Doing a whole house is more physical exertion than you'd think, and you have to switch up sides to stay balanced, you can't be winging the broom around and flinging dust, you have to be mindful and accurate the whole time to do a good job. I can see teaching a kid to sweep just to acquaint them with all those principles.
Wow! That's a lot to read
@@kbanghart ngl I felt some kinda way when he went after our beloved Hollywood og osensei Miyagi lol
You know it’s a good day when Seth uploads new content!!
Fabulous video! Your humour always brightens my day!
I’m not nearly old enough to have seen it in theatres, but my parents got a multi-DVD collection of the OG 1-3 + the one with the gal (I think it was The Next Karate Kid). It’s been so long since I saw them that now this video has made me wanna watch those again. The ice-breaking challenge with those slabs was one of my favourites, though I never tried myself.
As an aside, one of the bunkai I think I learned for paint-the-fence years ago was as part of a response to someone grabbing your wrist - either to break their grip or grab their wrist in return. It was always done pretty forcefully, and it reminds me now of the grappling bunkai that Jesse Enkamp and Ramsey Dewey have mentioned in their own stuff.
All that being said, thanks for another great upload! And if I haven’t said so before, congrats on the marriage!
I love how you spend a good chunk of time trying to remember how they did it in the Karate Kid when you could’ve easily pulled it up on your phone.
Also... CONGRATULATIONS to you and the new Mrs Sensei 😍 May your love have the loyalty of Daniel/Amanda LaRusso, the passion of Johnny/Carmen, and the timeless eternity of Miyagi/Yukie 💕
flies take off backwards, put your sticks slightly behind the rear legs if you wanna catch. if you clap with your hands using this principle this is actually easier than smacking them since it works with the aerodynamics of the fly rather than against them.
Thanks for the random fact, I appreciate it.
Sensei Seth really found a way to make us watch him do his chores, and still profit from it. Absolutely brilliant 🤣
Nah man. You gotta train like Cobra Kai. Suits your American style karate. Jump across buildings, shovel coal, climb chains, kick watermelons, run in a cement truck, and most importantly...use an electric sander lolol
No Sir.. strike hard, strike first, No Mercy. Awesome vid btw
Trust the process is what I took from Daniel’s training. Love Karate Kid. Great film.
No, it beat me to theaters by a couple years, but I remember watching it on VHS daily every summer vacation until I was 12.
Also: you made a video of doing your chores and put a sponsor in.
You mad genius.
Damn, Seth really figured a way to turn his housework into a youtube video.
love the video idea! "never back down" training next?? maybee?
Haha this was fun!
Quick comment on the nail bit. I think it's less to do with that being an optimal way to hammer a nail, and more about trying to show the importance of concentrating any exerted energy only on where you need it to go and nowhere else.
I believe that's what they're getting at.
Also how not to get frustrated, have patience and muscle memory through repetition
It's a type of punch practiced in some goju-ryu styles. Raise your hands like you'd take up a guard, but then raise them so your tri-ceps are basically parallel with the floor. Make your hands in relaxed fists, and imagine each is holding a hammer, and there's a board in front of you with a nail sticking out. Hammer the nail, keeping good leg, hip, shoulder, and elbow connection with your center.
What you end up doing is dropping your weight into your fist, and extending that weight forward along the path of a punch. The heavier you imagine that hammer to be, the quicker your punch will go. The stiffer you imagine the board to be, the heavier your punch will land.
Noiw imagine you've just done the upward motion of the painting the fence, and then hammer the nail. Or wax off, then hammer down. Or sand the floor (which in addition to the geidan-barai Seth mentioned, can also be thought of as a low / medium parry across your body as before the nukite in heian nidan or pinan nidan), then hammer down, except your plane of hammering is rotated. It's a very solid punch for close range encounters, which goju ryu (whose founder is the inspiration for Miyagi's character) tends to favor.
Just like the block down strike up you can also block up strike down with the paint the fence concept.
Good video Seth! The next one could be with WB doing a weight cut like Sweet T, that video and challenge was so exciting to see
I need to try out that wax on and wax off technique! 🤯
I was 2 years old when Karate Kid 1 first released, so I wached that movie in the TV when I was a teenager.
I'm also not finished all the series of the Cobra Kai yet. But, one year ago, I need to paint my wall, and I did it with the Miyagi method in Karate Kid film. It was fun and nostalgic.
Love the idea of putting movie training to the test. Years ago some of my friends and I trained like the movie Dodgeball and competed in a dodgeball tournament and did pretty well. But yes, in practice, movie training is going to look a lot different in real life, but the same goes for a lot of stuff put in a fast-paced, hectic scenario. Which is probably why when Daniel finally competes a lot of his chore-based moves are almost non-existent and he instead relies on whatever other moves Mr. Miyagi teaches him off screen.
Did you dodge the wrench?
@@IncredibleMD We didn't have wrenches so we dodged nerf darts.
Glad finally tried Karate and hope you keep up with it and see where it takes you.
As someone who did see the original Karate Kid in theaters, I'm cut, I'm cut deep.
Mission failed
he forgot groceries😂
the hammer and nail doesnt teach patience it teaches focus seth san
I like how Seth just finds an excuse to his wife to pretend he's doing house chores but actually just practicing 24/7 doing them
She knows exactly what he is doing all the time lol, esp with the camera
@@kbanghart ah, stupid me
The way you interpreted paint the fense ended up exactly like Jeff Chan's parry and strike with the same hand.
Btw in winch chun the sanda floor is Gang sau, and the wax on/off is the Tan sau, it's wonderful how similar wing chun is to karate, yesterday spared my brother, he still has no idea what I'm doing and why it works, 😂😂, he wants me to teach him those moves, Karate and Wing chun are great martial arts, but their practisioners should do sparring sessions always, pressure test will define your skills by the end of the sessions
I had am aikido teacher tell stories about going drinking with his sensei before moving to the US from Japan. His sensei would explain breaking wrist locks then gaining control by pouring sake while they shared drinks. Listening to his stories was fun... very classic martial arts movie stuff.
The breakdown of Kata... kata, invented in Okinawa, the birthplace of karate 😂😂😂😂 I'm so surprised you did not include the karate nerd
Congratulations brother. Welcome to the club 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I’m a shotokan practitioner. We don’t do chores either :). But I found an article about the movie a couple of years ago, an interview with the screen-writer. The name “Mr Miyagi” is a tribute to Chogun Miyagi, the founder of Goju-Ryu style of Okinawan karate because that was the style he learned as a kid. But many traditional dojos in Okinawa are small, because they’re in a sensei’s house//living room, can’t fit many students and sometimes taught free of charge (some still keep that tradition). So, the students help him clean before and after training. They didn’t ask in the article whether the chores help with techniques. But in my personal experience doing house chores, is definitely a workout 💪 💪 😂😂
Wish you a happy marriage man, hope it works out and lives up to your expectations~
The fly catching in betweens were deadass so entertaining
It so cool you did this! The moves do remind me of a few things. In Isshin Shorinji Ryu they call it the Soft Blocks when it involves soft parts of the hand used to redirect an attack and Hard Blocks when it uses hard parts of the arm to block or strike the incoming limb. The wax on and wax off stuff resembles somewhat the circular redirections of Goju Ryu which moves at a closer range than other styles in particular the Sanchin kata. The "put on your jacket" bid it is a lot like the coming back down the sequence of Pinan Sandan/Heian Sandan. (Shorin Ryu/Shotokan Ryu).
I love that you're doing the painting at the Muay Thai gym rather than at home or at a Karate Dojo.
Lots of Naha-te techniques. Love how you applied paint the fence and you're not wrong, bunkai for goju-ryu kata named Tensho - it's all over that kata.
Congrats on the marriage!
The technics form Tensho Kata are all the training Daniel-san's painting the fence and the famous wax on wax off. That is what he got. Didn't train much more in the movie.
It would be nice to know what influence Fumio Demura had in the technics that can be seen in the movie.
I just started teaching my daughter martial arts at home. We started a RUclips channel. Golden Sunrise Martial Arts. We watch you quite often. Thank you for your videos. I closed my school when we moved from West Virginia to Washington. But doing this RUclips thing has helped. I love teaching but my body says no more . Teaching my daughter is keeping active so I don't get any fatter lol. Congratulations on the marriage and thanks again for the videos.
Seth is the most creative martial arts RUclipsr EVER !!!!!!
Thank you for not grabbing the bumblebees
Your ability to entertain is using silly examples are outstanding. Thank you!
You have to remember the premise of the movie though Seth. Miyagi had 3 months to get Daniel ready to fight, not years. Every motion of the chores was designed to teach him the gross motor movement. Daniel is a kid who isn’t going to stand there and do thousands of outward blocks without getting bored. So you give him something to do that resembles the motion he has to learn. Waxing five or 6 cars, and having to do it in that motion, is thousands of repetitions of that motion. Which isn’t the same as substituting pulling weeds for sand the floor. Which isn’t the same as pretending to paint half a wall of fence, Daniel would have painted an entire yards worth of fence, “both sides”. So the whole, “Would it work? It’s a movie guys.” Yep sure is, but the principle of the chores is sound. If done in the manner that it would have to be done in real life it would work to teach you and very quickly.
Doesn’t make sense to do less deliberate movements when you have less time lol
Also, isn’t the point a big plot point that Daniel got VERY BORED because of the chores? He’s clearly a dedicated kid cuz he still stuck around. And as Seth said, deliberate movements are better, why reinforce incorrect technique when it’ll just need to be undone to a large extent?
@@DaTimmeh It's better to have a 'partly correct' incorrect technique than no technique.
@@shred1894 and it’s even better to just have correct technique, which there was no reason to forego. Outside of wanting some chores done in return for training, which is honestly valid and based lol.
But we’re arguing over a movie plot here, it’s supposed to be a cool story arc, and that is absolutely accomplished.
@@SenseiSeth it does make sense, when the gross motor skill is more important than perfect technique. Repetition. He hasn’t been doing karate since he was 10 like Johnny or five like some of the other kids. He doesn’t even have the gross motor skills those kids have because he doesn’t have the repetitions they have. He’s also not going an hour a day. 2 or 3 times a week. Paint the fence was an all day job, of nothing but paint the fence. When was the last time you or anyone else in the comment section spent all day 8 hours doing only one type of block? That’s what paint the fence, paint the house, wax the car, sand the floor gets Daniel. After that he only needs to be shown what it means and how it works, it’s second nature. In months not years. It’s the same reason guitarists like SRV, Kirk Hammet, etc are so good. That’s ALL they did when they had the time to do only that, when they were young. That’s why they are considered great, not because they were or are so gifted naturally but because of the relentless hours of grind. That’s what that training gives Daniel, is 3 months of relentless grind. Because no one here is doing outward blocks for 8 hours straight unless you don’t know that your doing them while doing something else. It also begins to start your mind in recognizing where your karate movements are no different than many of your everyday movements. If you haven’t noticed there are many things we do in everyday life, that we don’t think of as karate, but if you thought about it long enough….”Huh…. Painting this fence with this brush is the same as…..” once your doing it, and your brain recognizes what it also is, it starts adding it to your nervous system. It’s all about repetition. Way better men than me on the subject have postulated about whether this method would work or not work to teach someone karate. I’ve done been down that rabbit hole, many, many years ago, I’ll let you explore it for yourself, or not it’s a free country.
Yes I'm old, I lived that story before it was a movie.
My Mr Miyagi was an old German guy with a canvas belt. I'm still going to class.
Congrats! 🎉
Thanks for the reminder that i am old, but seeing this in theater makes it even more special :-)
“They’ve probably seen Karate Kid now that I think about it” 😂😂
Bro with that backyard of yours, you can open a Miyagi-do style Karate dojo !
In my style of Gongfu we use some similar techniques. Paint the fence: Stand with your feet shoulder-width apart and hold a brick in each hand, by the fingers. Move up and down, alternating both sides, using your whole body. After you finish, do it again without the bricks. You will be amazed how much power you can generate. The others follow a similar principle.
Paint the fence? Wax on, wax off? Spread the Vegemite on the toast. Eat the Vegemite on toast.
Plant or harvest a 10 x 10 rice paddie by hand, alternating between squats and straight leg bows. When a breeze hits, stand tall and close your eyes or take in the horizon, and breathe and meditate in appreciation. Work as a Chinese Wok chef or old-school dishwasher for shoulder development. Work as a massuse to strengthen grip and finger strength. Work as a lumber jack and kick or punch for the final fell (safety might be an issue here). That's 4 days of work. 1 day at the gym and 1 at karate class. Hire a shabbath-goi to massage you on your day of rest. Strong and good at karate, you will become, you will. Oh yeah, and finish the weekend with a rough and heated sparring session doing the horizontal samba with no air-conditioning, for endurance, cardio, and all-around toning.
Seth right now: "how can I do chores, which is something I do anyway, and make money.....Aha! I have just the plan!"
This is genius. Make a video about chores into a hugely entertaining karate video! only sensei seth
“Oh, like in that movie!! Wax on or wax off?!”
“Yeah, go wax off.”
The part of the movie I like(?) best is the scene where Sgt. Miyagi gets drunk and we learn about the loss of his wife in the internment camps while he's overseas fighting for the USA. That totally could have happened, and probably did. In Japanese culture, from what I've read, it's totally a thing to be able to get drunk with a friend and totally let your hair down with no loss of face. That scene get's me right in the heart every time.
Sensei Seth has great place(Home) to train, those nature Ninja lessons.
I think Seth needs to do a video where he trains like Rocky Balboa for a day, in which Seth attempts to recreate iconic moments from the training montages of movies I-IV and VI, with Icy Mike being Seth’s coach.
YES I NEED THIS
Can't believe Seth of all people said he was a big fan of the Coolify and didn't spot the pun.
mans out here grabbing like a grabler. seth about to pull guard.
Looked like dude actually caught the fly. Congrats on that.
Another method of the wax motion is cleaning a table/counter/cabinet with a rag/towel. Im a server and do it all the time. Granted im right sided so that gets the most reps, but sometimes i switch to my left.
OMG congratulations bro didn't know you were married recently that's awesome 😎😊
Should've also tried the Kata of the 3rd movie and the drum technique.
This was very informational I was struggling with my chores before I wanted this video, now I don't do them at all because I just learned that they will never teach me Karate and now I'm depressed. Thanks Sensai Seth.
Oh jeez I forgot the groceries.
Congrats on your marriage man and you finally caught a bug!!!
Man you do the ad so well it becomes entertaining
2:20 Jokes aside, I use yard work for body conditioning and form practice ALL THE TIME.
Seth "urrgh you're old"
Me "Jokes on you i didn't fucking exist back then!"
When i spar, i quite literally use the side to side brush block. From a bladed stance it works really well
Daniel does each of them for hours. The same movement. Okinawans were like violent amish.
Seth trying to justify the time lost with the painting excercise is actually pretty funny
It was when Sensei Seth realised that he had forgotten the groceries, that he then mastered the art of "track and run" along with negotiation in order to ensure his survival
flies for generations passing them stories of the chopstick massacre of the 80s. Never forget! 😂😂😂😂
The nail trick wasn't to teach him patience, it was to teach him focus. Focus was a big part of what Miyagi was trying to teach him in the second movie.
You were going to chopstick a poor bumble bee, you can literally pat the shiba inu offshoots.
When you do it a lot you go for one tap to set and one to drive it in then see how fast you can go from nail to nail.
Congratulations on the wedding!
Holy sht you did it! 🪰🥢🥋
🤣🤣🤣
Congratulations on catching the bug in the end 😄.
Also make sure you get those groceries Seth 😂.
There.are multiple Styles present, but it would be very interesting to see a comparison between the Defensive Style of Miyagi-sensei's Okinawan Karate, Cobra Kai's Aggressive American Karate, and the Military Karate taught to Daniel in the 3rd Movie. These are legit Techniques that are foundational and fundamental to specific Fighting Styles.