I liked that you said "a Budget is actually a Creative tool". While budgeting, when someone says that I'm good with numbers as if I only followed a formula, I always answer back "I'm not good with numbers, I'm Creative with Numbers" it demands a lot as once the budget is locked there is no going up. Great job. Success!!!
They should do an entire video with the toy-bus budget to really give an example of "You can do anything with anything." They already made the point, but I would love to see the end result of that.
Check out some of the Homemade Movies videos by Cinefix. They recreate movie scenes and trailers using sets, props and costumes using cardboard and junk they bought from the dollar store. Really impressive how accurate they can get some of the scenes to look (two of my favourites are the Death Star trench run scene and the Indiana Jones boulder scene)
The footage with the bus was actually from a live RJFS stream! So if you head over to their past broadcasts on the Twitch Channel, and select 'On Set With The RJFS', you can watch it being made!
I used to ALWAYS forget about budgeting food because I was so into the projects that I thought everyone else would forget about eating too. Now I budget food on the early stages of preprod. :)
Subtitles! Please don’t forget to budget subtitles! You want your film to play at a international film festival or at a film festival in another country and most times everyone just remembers subtitles shortly before submission and just take the money that’s left (usually less than a subtitler deserves ..) and ask for a quick and awesome and underpaid work ... Keep in mind: Subtitles open worlds to so many different audiences.
yeah i hate producing is paper and numbers not what i studied cine for, but this guy seem like a great producer i wish all of them would be like this. thanks for sharing rocketjump this shit keeps the little flame of my passion still alive lol.
This video is great! Thank you Rocket Jump and Ashim. Producing has always been a word that both confusing me and scares me but breaking down an important part of a Producer's role in such a logical way has really helped me :)
I've always thought a great way to involve specific things you don't necessarily have the budget for is to create a purposefully ironic or simplistic version of that. For example, in the bus flipping scene you could easily match cut to a young boy flipping his toy truck while making the foley sound with his mouth like kids do and then cut back. Idk, just a thought
It isn't about your resources, it's about how resourceful you are... I learnt this through becoming a project manager in construction. I am a film buff, very good to hear film projects are similar to construction projects.
I think it's best to make stories based off a budget and save bigger stories for when you have that extra. But this gives me a very good understanding of how to balance things and keep things from being too expensive or cutting out too much. Thanks guys 😋
My question is this. In general, what percentage of the budget should go towards production and what percentage of the budget should go towards post production? I've seen a few shorts, and they want to only give maybe 5-10% of the budget towards post production. And this is a project with tons of visual effects and endless sound design.
True story: I line produced season 1 of a true crime series for ID and made the budget for season 2. The EP knocked down my budget so I decided not to do the second season because my cost projection was correct. The new LP started to run out of money half-way through production and actually told her (my) production manager to tell the crew to eat less to save money! Yeah, the catering line is a good place to hide a little contingency from network bean counters. Feed your crew or you'll never hear the end of it.
The most important thing is VISUAL STYLE. Can your budget maintain the style. The expensive bus flip was no more effective than the joke bus flip because the real bus flip didn't sit into the plate shot, the shadow looked animated, (because it was) the eyeline of the actor is way off, and the focus isn't matched between the two composited images. So whilst the STYLE of the film is REAL, the final image was not, flipping not only the bus but the viewer out of the moment. Visual style must be consistent. Your budget will set the style you can afford, regardless of what you would like.
Okay, I really like you guys's mind setting. I have Question, it has been said that it might cost moreover a million bucks per sec to have decent CGI shot for a quiet while. How would you guys advise to a upcoming film maker who wants to make digital effect heavy piece of work. No 1: "Just go nuts with the computers !" No 2: "Mix with practical effect & use CG where you really need!"? No 3: "Nah ... I'm just interested in making film like "Terms Of Endearment". Get lost dummy !!!".
Speaking of budgets... How is RocketJump funded? A couple RUclips channels and a few sponsorships can't be enough to pay for all of you guys, especially with some of the larger projects you guys have done, yet there's more and more videos week after week. I think we'd all like to know how to get some extra dough to play with ya know :)
How can we get quotes from directors and cinematographers, actors to start a budget to give to a financier? They always want to know the budget of the film but we need to know there cost to give to a financier so they can give a bidget right?? Or do we just straight up tell the crew the max budget of the whole production???????
Why didn’t you guys rotto the guy back into the wide angle bus flip shot? The wide angle just shows the bus flipping with the guy that punched it in the shot. Pasting him back into the plate wouldn’t have costed anything extra, it’s an easy edit.
Interesting but being a Producer is all business. If I were in film it would definitely be the one thing I would never want to do. But enjoyed this information.
Uhm, the IATSE are demanding the flow of money stays stagnant and is equal for everyone. So Ashim's part about sometimes needing to take money away from one department to give it to another is considered a sin worthy of banishment to them now.
I'm just starting to look at this. I'm hoping to shoot next summer. It's a 2-hour teen sex comedy set here in England. It's dialogue heavy so it looks longer than it is. 158-pages. Which is why I have to do it myself, because no one will rread that size script unless it says "Written by Kevin Smith" on the title page.
i disagree. it definitely is about how it looks just as much as the story. exempli gratia, if my story is on point but looks like hot garbage, it won't be as effective in hitting the audience. At least for me that is. A good plot but terrible execution, ruins the story for me. I am more immersed in a story when it looks very professionally done. That is why if i can't afford a realistic bus flip, i'd cut it out of the story all together & rework the story rather than settling for a toy bus. my opinion. some people don't care but i personally do.
Hmm. I don't have money, can't buy anything, no gear really, and dis ugly 144p phone camera isn't gonna cut it. Well then, off to animation, there goes my dreams of Live action.
+Jonas Gammelgaard Stæhr star wars new hope is the most boring movie ever seen although is super high budget ( 11 million is very high budget in my point of view ) low budget movies in my opinion is less than 1 million dollars.
How do hell do you forget budgeting for post production?? Jesus Christ!!! specially when a myriad of projects need to be created literally in post? WTF?!!!
So this is the difference between *producer* and *director* . as a non english fluent speaker, i didnt really put attention to these two words and always tought that they're just the same
I liked that you said "a Budget is actually a Creative tool". While budgeting, when someone says that I'm good with numbers as if I only followed a formula, I always answer back "I'm not good with numbers, I'm Creative with Numbers" it demands a lot as once the budget is locked there is no going up. Great job. Success!!!
They should do an entire video with the toy-bus budget to really give an example of "You can do anything with anything." They already made the point, but I would love to see the end result of that.
Check out some of the Homemade Movies videos by Cinefix. They recreate movie scenes and trailers using sets, props and costumes using cardboard and junk they bought from the dollar store. Really impressive how accurate they can get some of the scenes to look (two of my favourites are the Death Star trench run scene and the Indiana Jones boulder scene)
The footage with the bus was actually from a live RJFS stream! So if you head over to their past broadcasts on the Twitch Channel, and select 'On Set With The RJFS', you can watch it being made!
I'd say 20 bucks is within even your budget, so you could do it yourself
I used to ALWAYS forget about budgeting food because I was so into the projects that I thought everyone else would forget about eating too. Now I budget food on the early stages of preprod. :)
5:07 that is SO true. I liked that part while learning how to make movies. If even one of the puzzles stops cooperating, the movie just won't be "it".
Subtitles! Please don’t forget to budget subtitles! You want your film to play at a international film festival or at a film festival in another country and most times everyone just remembers subtitles shortly before submission and just take the money that’s left (usually less than a subtitler deserves ..) and ask for a quick and awesome and underpaid work ...
Keep in mind: Subtitles open worlds to so many different audiences.
I can't wait for the one on Hollywood Accounting! I need to know how to make my successful films look like losses and my flops look like write-offs.
kudos to this guy, job id be worst at and most stressed at with video
yeah i hate producing is paper and numbers not what i studied cine for, but this guy seem like a great producer i wish all of them would be like this.
thanks for sharing rocketjump this shit keeps the little flame of my passion still alive lol.
This was surprisingly inspiring. Thanks, Ashim!
you're welcome!
@@ashimahuja11 Hai sir this is Praveen from India. I have a good movie story. Can we work together?
Give me a chance, I will prove myself.
@@praveenn8427 that's usually rule #1 in getting a producer to sign on. Don't ask unless you have a good pitch, and a good 1 pager
This video is great! Thank you Rocket Jump and Ashim. Producing has always been a word that both confusing me and scares me but breaking down an important part of a Producer's role in such a logical way has really helped me :)
I've always thought a great way to involve specific things you don't necessarily have the budget for is to create a purposefully ironic or simplistic version of that. For example, in the bus flipping scene you could easily match cut to a young boy flipping his toy truck while making the foley sound with his mouth like kids do and then cut back. Idk, just a thought
It isn't about your resources, it's about how resourceful you are... I learnt this through becoming a project manager in construction. I am a film buff, very good to hear film projects are similar to construction projects.
The template of the budget that you guys have given in the forum is amazing. that's what a beginner producer needs
Finally someone positive and logical at the same time! everyone is so quick to tell you its not possible, but clearly it is. Great video!! Thank you.
Great advice, Ashim! Budgeting is one of the facets of film I'm most terrible at so I appreciated the help. haha
I think it's best to make stories based off a budget and save bigger stories for when you have that extra. But this gives me a very good understanding of how to balance things and keep things from being too expensive or cutting out too much. Thanks guys 😋
My question is this. In general, what percentage of the budget should go towards production and what percentage of the budget should go towards post production? I've seen a few shorts, and they want to only give maybe 5-10% of the budget towards post production. And this is a project with tons of visual effects and endless sound design.
Please do a video on "Different sources of getting money for short films".
I like your mindset and approach
Now.... What if I don´t have any money??
Then you use the "OPM" method.
'Other peoples money' Beg & borrow!!! (g)
Use the FFF financial method. Friends, Family and Fools...
Write a book
Then write a script that doesn't require anything expensive, incredible things have been made with almost no budget.
chili24137 Can you provide any links to amazing short films that had no budget? I'd love to see some.
5:32 "You can do what ever you want" ... sounds good! ;-)
Id love to work with this guy someday. Got such a good vibe from this video.
Great video. I'd love to see one of different individuals' film experience and tips on how one can get a job in the film industry.
Yo that bus flip needs a whole video just about how you did that. That was insane.
Not gonna lie. That toy bus flip was pretty legit.
Great info. I really enjoyed the last message.
I'm very lucky to find your channel! Thank you very much for all the information i really apreciate it!
Excellent examples, thank you.
I love the $20 bus flip, it still looked cool and I'd do it for the fun of making the toy look epic.
Great video and great run down. Thanks for making this.
Awesome words Ashim!! Inspiring stuff!
I was curious to know on the bus scene, why not use a toy bus instead of a toy dumptrunk?
A toy bus would've been over the budget
True story: I line produced season 1 of a true crime series for ID and made the budget for season 2. The EP knocked down my budget so I decided not to do the second season because my cost projection was correct. The new LP started to run out of money half-way through production and actually told her (my) production manager to tell the crew to eat less to save money! Yeah, the catering line is a good place to hide a little contingency from network bean counters. Feed your crew or you'll never hear the end of it.
This was helpful. Thank you for making this!
The most important thing is VISUAL STYLE.
Can your budget maintain the style.
The expensive bus flip was no more effective than the joke bus flip because the real bus flip didn't sit into the plate shot, the shadow looked animated, (because it was) the eyeline of the actor is way off, and the focus isn't matched between the two composited images.
So whilst the STYLE of the film is REAL, the final image was not, flipping not only the bus but the viewer out of the moment.
Visual style must be consistent.
Your budget will set the style you can afford, regardless of what you would like.
Thank you!
Okay, I really like you guys's mind setting. I have Question, it has been said that it might cost moreover a million bucks per sec to have decent CGI shot for a quiet while. How would you guys advise to a upcoming film maker who wants to make digital effect heavy piece of work. No 1: "Just go nuts with the computers !" No 2: "Mix with practical effect & use CG where you really need!"? No 3: "Nah ... I'm just interested in making film like "Terms Of Endearment". Get lost dummy !!!".
I've been waiting for this one. :)
Awesome!
Speaking of budgets... How is RocketJump funded?
A couple RUclips channels and a few sponsorships can't be enough to pay for all of you guys, especially with some of the larger projects you guys have done, yet there's more and more videos week after week.
I think we'd all like to know how to get some extra dough to play with ya know :)
For some of their recent shorts, they were funded by Hulu.
I think.
Well presented!
Thank you so much
Link in the description doesn't work anymore :// Could we have an other Rocket Jump Film School? :D
Except the $20 bus flip looks more like a dump truck. lol
Top advoice very helpful video much repect.
How can we get quotes from directors and cinematographers, actors to start a budget to give to a financier? They always want to know the budget of the film but we need to know there cost to give to a financier so they can give a bidget right?? Or do we just straight up tell the crew the max budget of the whole production???????
Forgot to mention; I loved the toy bus! So corny. Could definitely put that funny scene in somewhere.
Can you do a video on funding your projects? Especially if you are a student.
what is your outro song?
I actually loved the toy truck
Toy Bus is the BEST!
Thnk u
Why didn’t you guys rotto the guy back into the wide angle bus flip shot? The wide angle just shows the bus flipping with the guy that punched it in the shot. Pasting him back into the plate wouldn’t have costed anything extra, it’s an easy edit.
Quick, Cheap, Good. Pick Two
Do you put the horse in talent fee?? :D
Got to wonder where you guys get your funding from. I don't feel like RUclips alone would pay anywhere near enough to fund this kind of stuff
It doesn't, that are partnered with Lionsgate and Hulu. As well as they get money from sponsors, and RUclips advertisements give them money.
What about a animated movie?
WHAT IF... it's soooo fluffy... I could die?!
Tangentially related question: will we get the 12th day of VFXmas on this channel??
Don't forget the best boy...
Yo that $20 shot was kinda hard tho
wait, what, the bus wasn't a render?
Part of it was.
the last time I was this early vghs was still being made!
they are both technically bus flips 😉
I was shocked when I knew that screenwriters salaries are less than directors
Now experiencing injustice 😢😳
For zack snyder it's about how fancy it looks
Interesting but being a Producer is all business. If I were in film it would definitely be the one thing I would never want to do. But enjoyed this information.
Am I only the only one who thought the toy bus flip was way cooler
"Don't forget post production"... well don't forget visual effects that are the real money sink of post...
Were money come from
was that bus really have to broken
Uhm, the IATSE are demanding the flow of money stays stagnant and is equal for everyone. So Ashim's part about sometimes needing to take money away from one department to give it to another is considered a sin worthy of banishment to them now.
im working a movie like fast and furious but only got 20 bucks. Buy alot of paper and make paper cars
I'm just starting to look at this. I'm hoping to shoot next summer. It's a 2-hour teen sex comedy set here in England. It's dialogue heavy so it looks longer than it is. 158-pages. Which is why I have to do it myself, because no one will rread that size script unless it says "Written by Kevin Smith" on the title page.
台本読んだ後予算を想定しながら動画制作するのですね。日本との動画制作のスケールの差がここまで離れているとはね....
English please
If CGI was free then the cost was paycheck for the CGI employees
I would hate this job I would never want to have it
Budget is $20 damn... Buying food along is $20!!
What if you have no budget, no voluntaries, and no editing skills?
Dogizmaster dont make your films
Dogizmaster editing skills just look it up on RUclips study easy
also use a phone camera, and write a script online
i disagree. it definitely is about how it looks just as much as the story. exempli gratia, if my story is on point but looks like hot garbage, it won't be as effective in hitting the audience. At least for me that is. A good plot but terrible execution, ruins the story for me. I am more immersed in a story when it looks very professionally done. That is why if i can't afford a realistic bus flip, i'd cut it out of the story all together & rework the story rather than settling for a toy bus. my opinion. some people don't care but i personally do.
Boop
You guys really destroyed a school bus?😂
and this is what kills the fun for me. the reality that goes into creating fiction.
rocketjump made a bus jump
👶💝💓💌💌❤️💕❤️💙
Or do Hollywood accounting and every movie makes 0 dollars ;0
Hmm. I don't have money, can't buy anything, no gear really, and dis ugly 144p phone camera isn't gonna cut it. Well then, off to animation, there goes my dreams of Live action.
well you can make a live action film but it will most likly be crap
BUGITING
that is a big word to say to sound smarter
I believe that high budget what makes a good movie otherwise don't waste your time watching those sucks short movies
+Jonas Gammelgaard Stæhr star wars new hope is the most boring movie ever seen although is super high budget ( 11 million is very high budget in my point of view ) low budget movies in my opinion is less than 1 million dollars.
So movies, like Whiplash or 500 days of Summer suck then? your point makes no sense.
+Jonas Gammelgaard Stæhr saw 2004 budget is 1.2 million and his box office are 103.9 million. it's really shocking!
How do hell do you forget budgeting for post production?? Jesus Christ!!! specially when a myriad of projects need to be created literally in post? WTF?!!!
is this guy like 5 foot lol
So this is the difference between *producer* and *director* . as a non english fluent speaker, i didnt really put attention to these two words and always tought that they're just the same