J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1985 - Public Talk 2 - A crisis in our consciousness
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- J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1985 - Public Talk 2 - A crisis in our consciousness
Summary:
Why do human beings have a sense of guilt?
We are the past, whether that past be one day or many thousands of years.
Can there be a total mutation in consciousness?
Does thinking rely on memory?
Thought can imagine the limitless, but it's still limited.
Whatever the activity of thought, its action must always be limited. Therefore thought is not holistic.
Thought and the thinker are one, and therefore they are always limited.
Is there something beyond thought?
What is desire?
Can there be an interval between a sensation and thought then giving it a shape or image?
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Amazing humbling man
He changed my life ❤❤
Are we really ready to face ourselves as we are actually or just playing with words? If we are caught in the process of time who will extricate us out of it? This talk is really absorbing.
I started my 'spiritual journey' at 17. I came across JK over covid and realized all teaching i internalized and tried to live by was just mental masterbation. Im still young, 23, and life is quieter even though there is so much going on in it. I enjoy it here, but every now and then fear creeps in...like now...oh its gone again :)
Sometimes I cry too and laugh at the same time. I feel so many emotions at once all the time. In the past it would smoke them away but now i just watch them. Sometimes they do feel real and they are but you are above them.
Who ever needs to hear this: you will get through it. It doesn't get easier. It get tougher, but so are you.
Kindly attend vipassana course to understand the speakers words much better
Do you understand the Jk now?
One can never understand K, the talks happens not to make one understand but points out the Truth.
When one sees the Truth that is heard , The listener or rather the one trying to understand gradually dissolves .❤
Genial mí querido Krishnamurti.!!!
Marvelous ✨🙏🏽
listen to him gives me immense peace
same man...ik i shouldn't need him but his words once a week sets me straight and just reminds me that i have what it takes. We have what it takes
What a wonderful human being and his teachings
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Hallo und guten Tag! Hello and good day! Grüße an alle Zuhörer und Zuschauer! Greetings to all listener and watcher! Ist Euch bewußt, daß die Aufzeichung an seinem Geburtstag gemacht wurde? Are you aware, that this recording was made on his birthday? Ein wundervoller Vortrag! A wunderful lector by the way! K begleitet mich schon mein ganzes Leben. k. has accompanied me my whole life!
Elias Alexander Weis
@32:50 ”The speaker recently talked, if I may most humbly point out, it's not out of vanity I'm informing you, he talked to the United Nations. I don't know why he was invited, but he went there. And after the talk one of the high authorities there said, "I have come to the conclusion, conviction rather, that after 40 years working in this organization, I have come to the conclusion that I must not kill". Forty years it took him. (Laughter) No, just see, the significance of it. That it takes the human brain to come to some truth during 40 years. That is, not to kill another human being. And the whole organization is based on not to bring about wars, prevent wars. They haven't done - that's irrelevant. But the whole point is, how the human brain refuses to face fact and act. And we think that during time we'll resolve everything. Time will help you to forget; and so on.
So that's the nature of time: the past modifying itself through the present and continuing as the future. So the future, the past, and the present are one. Unless there is fundamental, radical ending of all that, otherwise you will be what you are tomorrow. We are unfortunately miserable people; unhappy people, which is a fact, and if we don't change now, we'll be tomorrow the same. It's simple reality, truth.”
- Jiddu Krishnamurti, Ojai 1985 - Public Talk 2 - A crisis in our consciousness
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To be better than others in generall makes u guilty to treat others better, by knowing u are not enough educated to be a kind human.
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51:57 On Fear
I wish he was my father…
Is there any need for any wish; any movement away from 'what is' ? The very act of listening (not to just words) with one's whole being --- is itself a miracle. It is listening with one's whole being that blasts any centre that one has had, --- the very wishing this or that is still very petty small and limited. Don't agree with me, but go into it with all one's passion and energy --- then the 'what is' reveals it's content in one go. Test it out in your daily life, for meditation isn't apart from one's daily life.
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