Can I Spray Foam Insulation Myself?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- In this video we take a better look at what needs to happen to make proper spray foam and how complex that is for a non-pro to get it right.
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After calling multiple companies in my area, getting an absolutely crazy quote for my small attic from one, and never getting a call back from the others… I’m not sure what to do now. I’ve been doing a lot of research (on this channel especially) and for my attic DIY seems to be on the very edge of feasible
Mike- great, well constructed and informative on the subject. You had me at the $20 K mixer! FR
Thanks for watching.
For the job I did dyi worked out but, you have to make sure temperature are right. The surface and foam kit all have be the correct or it will fail.
You have to follow the directions to the letter and not skip reading all the way through.
I only did a small part of a house. I would hire a pro to do a whole house hands down.
Good job. Thanks for the feedback.
Very well explained in what can go wrong. Those diy foam compressed containers are basic but like you said, you need to also understand the chemistry and the technique and the troubleshooting skills. That's why there's a three day qualifications course plus then you are still only an apprentice until you understand fully how to test your foam on site and a bunch of other things yo make a good product.
Yes, exactly
I have 2 all steel trusses, about 2 feet top to bottom. I have noticed in your videos you recommend spraying the entire metal connector "plate" on wood trusses with foam(up close to the vaulted ceiling. I am getting 3" closed cell on my ceiling. How much of my two foot high all steel ceiling trusses needs spray foam??
Thanks
just jim
i was going to do my rim joists with a kit from home depot, the kit was 750$ and probably would of not been enough t do the job. i returned the kit and called a guy that has been spraying for years.... he did the job for 500$
Yes that is typical. Good call.
I found this to be the case also.
If you are spraying a boat or a small project. Go for it. But in most cases it is cheaper to higher a pro in this case. Proper.. Ppe, chemicals, mix, equipment, knowledge.. And best of all you dont have to fold yourself into a pretzel trying to use the kit where a pro has an adapter to handle it in comfort.
It certainly seems like hiring a pro is the way to go.
That said, what do you say about the DIY froth pak kits and the people that use them successfully?
Correct mixtures and application without extensive training.
Did they just get lucky?
They can work, they are designed to do something for you. I see a lot of using them for what the are not intended to do.
I love your video's but I guess I got lucky. I did my home myself back in 2011 and had no issues and have loved the end results. Would I do it again myself, absolutely. Can everyone do it, probably not. I think you give excellent advice and that's why I watch your video's even though my house is already done.
Where did get the equipment?
@@stcharleshometheater From a company called Foam it Green. They went out of business because of this COVID epidemic.
Thanks for watching.
@@rickkephartactual7706 There was a company here in Missouri but I think they went out of business too, I'm curious, what did they charge for the rental if you don't mind me asking? I've learned alot from Spray Jones and I'm a fast learner and I know I could do it but I'll probably have to have a company come in and do it, I wish his company was in the states, he knows his stuff.
Waiting for this to blow when it reaches everyones recommendation
Thank you.
Thank you so much!
You're welcome!
I DIY'd my 200 sq ft cabin with the stuff that turns green to let you know it is mixing correctly.. spent 1400 bucks on 2 kits.. I am happy with the job I did and how it works,, but in hindsight,, and what I tell everyone,, "Let The Pros Do It".. For not that much more I could have had it done much better with no wear and tear on me..
Thanks for watching and letting us know.
I just like to challenge myself and do stuff lol
I’m a DYI guy, and I know my limitations. I remember the home store clerk one time telling me the kit, is the same thing as what the pros use. It’s no harder than spraying paint. Paint doesn’t expand, I had questions. So I went looking for answers, I asked pros about the products, I did some reading, and watched some shows like this one, about how it do it. But more importantly, what can go wrong when it’s done wrong. Even the pros can screw this up, but they have insurance and a system in place to correct a bad job, if I do it, I’m not only out the time and cost of doing it wrong, but it will cost two, three times as much to remove and correct a bad job. Bottom line, this is something you bit the bullet on pay someone with a good reputation and years of experience to do. You do not want to be someone’s first job. If you want to learn how to do this, get the training and do an apprenticeship, don’t learn on your own, it’s not like spraying paint.
I agree. I'm redoing my garage next year and thought about diy but it's not like fiberglass where you can just take it out and do it over. What a nightmare it would be if you don't do 1 of 100 things wrong.
Thank you! 👍
You're welcome!
Oh ya!!
I'm assuming those 2 part froth packs aren't acceptable for a small job?
They can be Ok. Define small tho...
I bought 2 $700(us) kits to do 2 bedroom ceilings and 2 outside walls. Pretty sure a pro would heave been cheaper and better.
Yes it can be.
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Another great episode. I didn't hear that you say there isn't any cost savings between pro and diy.
I'd like to know what went over that floor you sprayed around 3:30 min.
You never know what future developments in the chemical industry that could produce a foam that can be sprayed without regard to temps, mixing and toxins.
Not many. The chemistry has been very similar for 40 years already.
I am having a contractor remodel a bathroom, but I have elected to reinsulate the (2"x4") wall myself. I was leaning towards getting a DIY spray foam kit; but after watching your video, I am having second thoughts. What, in general, is my best DIY option (I would prefer not to use fiberglass)? Caulk up gaps and install Rockwool batts? Cut foam board and glue it to the sheathing? I would appreciate any advice you can give.
Foam board well adhered and can foam of the cracks and edges.
@@SprayJones Thanks!
@@SprayJones Hi. I am having trouble finding foam board at a thickness that will full the stud bay (2x4). Can I glue two pieces of foam board together to full thickness, and then glue them to the sheathing? For example, a 2" thick piece glued to a 1" piece, then glued to the sheathing. Or will this compromise the R value? Thanks for your help.
Mike, you did a great job in this video and I enjoy watching all of your videos. I am all for hiring professionals for almost any kind of work. However I think that people (in the US) should always be able to do the work themselves if they so please, and advocating for regulation by code enforcement is not the answer. As stated in other comments below, most of the time the inspectors don't even know what they are talking about, why put them in charge of some ones own home/building?
Thanks for watching.
You missed the point entirely.
I know as any SPF guy does that the average Joe cannot spray this on their own and should be prevented from doing so to avoid hurting themselves and others.
I am an advocate for free markets but you cannot start mixing all the concrete for your house foundation yourself with a home made mixer for good reason. Concrete needs to be of a certain grade and standard as approved so that codes can even be established. SPF is no different.
@@SprayJones Actually, where I am located I can mix the concrete for my home if I so please, I only need to have electrical inspected, which is a state law. And I do understand your point completely, but as I said, half of the time the people who enforce the code don't even understand what it means, especially in more rural areas where the building science seems to lag behind more populated cites. I know that this is a more political argument than one about spray foam, which is not what your channel is about. However, laws are not meant to protect people from themselves, over-regulation slows innovation much more than it helps protect people. In a position such as yours, it is easy say no one should be able spray their own foam and they should just pay you to do it. I know that you do not have bad intentions in doing so, however you are going to be biased because of your position. People will pay professionals 9 times out of 10 because it almost always makes sense for timeliness and cost, so there is no need to force people to do something they already will do.
@@gusty4395 I agree with you 100% too much regulation. Spray Jones has a lot of good info to share which I appreciate, but I’m all for freedom ... to succeed or fail. Canada is on a socialist trajectory and it causes everyone to think in a similar way. Government, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT MY SAFETY, PRESERVE MY LIBERTY.
We need help here in usa.. Just got off phone with local inspector. They want to see the r value match fluff insulation.
So code is r38. Foamer wants to put 5.5" icynene which only comes out to r22.
So i have to spray more (which is a waste) to appease the inspectors?
Going to dig through your old vids and see if i can pull up documentation.
I then have to go through my architect and get this all approved.
Do you have a resource that will help us in the usa change the education. Especially inspectors.
Code is R 38 for vaulted ceilings? Ours is R28 or RSI 5.02.
You need the SPF applied to the roof deck and treated as a cathedral detail value not flat ceiling detail.
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My plans show r38 fluff +vents for the attic floor.
I think for a simple question the inspector did pay enough attention (felt like he didnt have time).
Hopefully will hear back from another on monday. Sometimes its a matter of verbage. I will bring what you said up. Hopefully helps.
If i didnt require inspections.. I would just get it done and ohh well them.
@@turboflush Your code should allow for a lesser value for cathedral or low slope roofs. If you apply to the roof this is standard to adhere to.
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Just got flat out told that spray foam no good in southern climate by city plan reviewer. (old guy). Still requires the R38. The whole no movement of air through the insulation passed over his head. Moisture is a problem and icyenen is apparently bad when burning (I dont plan on staying in house if on fire). Going to try and go through the architect and see what he can come up with.
Hopefully he is more in tune with modern materials and methods.
Worst case.. appease the plans. spend more money and do my way after final insp.
@@turboflush My comment might be too late, but a good HVAC engineering company might be able to produce the documentation to get you performance based compliance instead of the perscriptive based compliance. Or simply give you more options.
I was looking at this system: www.touch-n-seal.com/refillable-systems.html
I've been going back and forth for like 6 months. I was going to wrap the tanks and hose to get same temp. They drop tanks off and pick them up
The short version: ruclips.net/video/UL8WCKjK6WU/видео.html
I appreciate your videos. Had someone who does multiple insulations offer to do some spray foaming, but I had fortunately watched another one of your videos where you said if you want someone who does spray foam, make sure that's what they specialize in, not something they do every once in a while.
Thanks for watching Sean.
Do you only work in canada
Yes.
The really funny part is that the froth packs on material alone costs about the same as having a pro like myself come spray it in. The people that want to rent the rig are even crazier. You really think I'm going to rent you a 50-100k specialty piece of equipment that if you do anything wrong costs thousands and thousands to fix or repair?
I did entertain myself with one guy asking. Told him, sure, I'll rent it to you. You give me a 25k deposit + 1000 per day for rent + pay me $100 and hr to teach you how to spray........ya he just has use do it instead lol.
I watch a vid of the guy in Texas spray is own rebuild and it did not cure. I cringed. He seams very professional accept for this area.
Yup. I know who you are talking about. :)
I agree but, do you believe Canadian certification provides a reasonable guarantee of competence? Not even close, very hard to vet what you refer to as "Professionals". This industry has a long way to go before you claim your are a Professional.
That is true. I would like to see SPF be treated like electrician or machinist. School and practical with verified hours in the field before being certified.
6:50 When this happens prices will increase.....
Thanks for watching
At first I thought, why would you want to spray yourself?...seemed rather silly...🤦♂️
I agree. There are many who try.
It's like saying oh I'm going to frame my house even though I've never done it. Or run wiring. Totally agree.
Hello Spray Jones, I have watched nearly every single video on your channel over the last two days and I have learned so much about spray foam that I didn't know before, and it's completely changing my approach to a pole frame residential building I am planning on building. I was wondering if there is any direct way to get in touch with you and your company? I am so glad your content is Canadian based so it's so much easier to know what applies here. Would love to shoot a few direct questions at you and see if there is anyone you could recommend in Alberta (Calgary or surrounding area) to do a spray of a pole barn. I have found Spray Jones (Alberta) Inc, are they a branch of you? I also found these guys whose color scheme and logo looks very similar to yours, and I am confused if they are related to you www.rcialberta.com/ ? After watching your channel and all videos on Marshall Build and the issues he ran into, it's obvious your company knows what they are doing, and I would be afraid to trust anyone else. Please let me know. Thanks!