My man didn't show the Thunderlord lightning strikes because he doesn't want the fact that it has 40000% Fireteam scaling get out before his team can sweep all raid WRs
Thanks for doing all the testing. While I'm not surprised Lost Signal and Velocity Baton don't stack, I'm still disappointed. I wanted to make a DoT only setup.
For Bleak watchers it should be noted that while you don't want a ton of Bleak Watchers, if you do not have people using chill clip / conditional / other stasis effects in the damage scenario then having two per "boss" is the ideal amount -- As two of their firing bursts is enough to insta freeze. Anything above that is just wasted grenades. Even with manual shatters, they'll all still fire at the same time and do basically no damage. There is unfortunately no consistent way to have them time their shots so one will freeze after another.
Mixing and matching sounds like the intended way to play, anyways. I think thats the secondary reason that Wolfpack Rounds only for for other legendaries, and not exotics. Its interesting to know what stacks and what doesn't, Im gonna encourage my buddies to try to mix and match during dungeons to see what combos really well.
From my own experience, different dots stack with little to no issue, great way to visualize is using a melee that applying scorch with necrotic grips. Both damage tics will happen. It works similar to how he said 1 of each wave frame works together no problem but multiple causes problems.
A couple that I'm curious about: Hellion on Prismatic Warlock/Dawnblade No Time To Explain's Time Chasm The NTTE is out of curiosity in case they ever give it some pve crazy buff (Bungie pls). Hellion is currently relevant just because players do use it and doing a class ability before damage isn't exactly uncommon. Great videos as always, glad to see you were liberated from the Bungie holding cells.
wonderful information, I love these number-focused educational videos. sort of relation, would love to see a breakdown of the theoretical best team composition for 3man and 6man fireteams- strongest supers, weapon and ability mixing, etc
Funny you mention necrotic grip not stacking - not only is this true, but the poison DoT effect is also removed by applying the stasis frozen status. Not hugely important for dps but it keeps me from using my favorite exotic with stasis ):
Art is in the Negative Space too. They don't tell us how to make the public events heroic too. There is a dual benefit to making a curious player, and not bombarding folks that don't read their screens much anyway if they can help it with more to not read.
@GnappyAssassin It's amazing how much heroic public event expectations have devolved. Before near the start of the game, it was cool to find out and only slightly annoying as time went on when people ignored it. These days it's expected for it to be told to you on how to make it heroic, and since public events are for glimmer now, extremely annoying when people ignore it
I think it's better with us learning it ourselves. These kind of things are more fun to figure out in game than being told. Like labbing a character in a fighting game.
curious if it is any worth using 5x summum bonum with only one person using heavy attacks while the others spam lights, or if at that point its better to just use another sword. I assume you will cover that on a future DPS video
Just checking my knowledge… Is it fair to define chunking as: Too many high damage instances cause the game to make math errors? Second question, is chunking always a net gain in total damage, or are there instances where it hurts you? Thanks as always to you and your helpers for putting in the effort to research and produce this content!!
When you talk about different sources for the wave based weapons, do you mean weapon type sources (sword,bgl,hgl) or specific sources (dimensional,hullabaloo…)?
Aegis, do you think there's a viable strat to use Winter's Wrath for damage with Bleak Watcher? You could potentially skip the freezing attack to shatter twice in a row and preserve more of the Super's duration. Obviously it won't be a viable DPS strat, but it could be fun.
Only thing I'm curious about is SE exotic. How it will count threadlings? Will it count teammate one's too and stack faster? Probably not worth testing.
I have a question with glacial quake titan, if the Titan is using star-eater to buff the damage and a warlock is using baildors' weavers shadebinder, does the warlock steal or negate the bonus damage of the titans crystals?
"This doing numbers" - Aegis, 2024 (Thanks for the deep dives as usual! Great to have this resource, both to shut my friends down and actually deal damage)
your titan axes testing made me think "why are abilities that debuff the target themselves never tested with a debuff already being applied from a different source to have an actual damage increase/decrease/stacking from whatever source?" like when threeshot tether is tested, you could just use a tractor for the first shot, or use a void buddy or whatever other weaken ability for the axes.
This video is nice but most of the time you don’t have be 5 of the same class in any content where damage matters. It would’ve been nice to see the results for 2-3 of the same class/ability/damage source
i wish if it wouldn’t break the game bungie would just let us go wild with abilities for a few days. i want to murder the second encounter in vespers with ignitions 😂😂
Hello vault of glass relic
Wouldn't his name be Kabr?
The 3 buddies
Cries in child of the old gods
I’d assume that it would only take the tether damage from one child since it’s probably considered DoT
My man didn't show the Thunderlord lightning strikes because he doesn't want the fact that it has 40000% Fireteam scaling get out before his team can sweep all raid WRs
Good thing you know… go get them
7:01 RIP framerate
never thought i would hear wardcliff and normal in the same testing results
Thanks for doing all the testing.
While I'm not surprised Lost Signal and Velocity Baton don't stack, I'm still disappointed. I wanted to make a DoT only setup.
Welcome back, our Aegis
For Bleak watchers it should be noted that while you don't want a ton of Bleak Watchers, if you do not have people using chill clip / conditional / other stasis effects in the damage scenario then having two per "boss" is the ideal amount -- As two of their firing bursts is enough to insta freeze. Anything above that is just wasted grenades. Even with manual shatters, they'll all still fire at the same time and do basically no damage.
There is unfortunately no consistent way to have them time their shots so one will freeze after another.
15:25 *cries in void soul*
Mixing and matching sounds like the intended way to play, anyways. I think thats the secondary reason that Wolfpack Rounds only for for other legendaries, and not exotics.
Its interesting to know what stacks and what doesn't, Im gonna encourage my buddies to try to mix and match during dungeons to see what combos really well.
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So if you wanted multiple dot sources you could just 1 of each witherhoard, area denial, and alethonym correct?
I think it would need further testing. It depends if bosses are limited to one dot source or only track one of each dot source
That would have been good to see in the video
From my own experience, different dots stack with little to no issue, great way to visualize is using a melee that applying scorch with necrotic grips. Both damage tics will happen. It works similar to how he said 1 of each wave frame works together no problem but multiple causes problems.
Each non-scaling DoT in the game can stack with a different one mostly fine, you just cant double up. No double scorches/ignitions, witherhoard, etc.😊
15:39 “they [bleak watchers] were just chillin…”
I see what you did there 😂
A couple that I'm curious about:
Hellion on Prismatic Warlock/Dawnblade
No Time To Explain's Time Chasm
The NTTE is out of curiosity in case they ever give it some pve crazy buff (Bungie pls). Hellion is currently relevant just because players do use it and doing a class ability before damage isn't exactly uncommon.
Great videos as always, glad to see you were liberated from the Bungie holding cells.
wonderful information, I love these number-focused educational videos. sort of relation, would love to see a breakdown of the theoretical best team composition for 3man and 6man fireteams- strongest supers, weapon and ability mixing, etc
I started this season after a 5 month break, good to see stasis back!
Funny you mention necrotic grip not stacking - not only is this true, but the poison DoT effect is also removed by applying the stasis frozen status. Not hugely important for dps but it keeps me from using my favorite exotic with stasis ):
I was thinking this same thing and was hoping he’d go over other possible effects canceling out necrotic damage
This is by far the best destiny 2 video 😍😍😍
Another legendary test from a legendary gentleman and his legendary compatriots ❤
Thanks for the effort making these videos bro, they are extremely useful
Crazy how this stuff is never mentioned in game or by devs
They hate giving us numbers
Art is in the Negative Space too.
They don't tell us how to make the public events heroic too.
There is a dual benefit to making a curious player, and not bombarding folks that don't read their screens much anyway if they can help it with more to not read.
@GnappyAssassin It's amazing how much heroic public event expectations have devolved. Before near the start of the game, it was cool to find out and only slightly annoying as time went on when people ignored it. These days it's expected for it to be told to you on how to make it heroic, and since public events are for glimmer now, extremely annoying when people ignore it
I think it's better with us learning it ourselves. These kind of things are more fun to figure out in game than being told. Like labbing a character in a fighting game.
this man thought he could put in the cleanest looking groundskate without anyone noticing. 23:20 for reference
Return of Aegis arc🎉
16:30 Void soul "Am I a Joke to u?"
curious if it is any worth using 5x summum bonum with only one person using heavy attacks while the others spam lights, or if at that point its better to just use another sword. I assume you will cover that on a future DPS video
Just checking my knowledge…
Is it fair to define chunking as: Too many high damage instances cause the game to make math errors?
Second question, is chunking always a net gain in total damage, or are there instances where it hurts you?
Thanks as always to you and your helpers for putting in the effort to research and produce this content!!
Aegis doing side quests
I needed this. The lady and I are attempting the final boss on vesper 😖
I was literally wondering just yesterday if area denials stacked, and now your video popped up. Huuuuge!
This is a topic I’ve been really interested in so thank you very much for doing this.
Thank you and your team! I have a bunch of dusty Ergo rolls in my vault that I need to get rid of. Time to search for your testing vids.
I’m interested to see that heavy glaive, see if that held onto any extra chunking dmg
When you talk about different sources for the wave based weapons, do you mean weapon type sources (sword,bgl,hgl) or specific sources (dimensional,hullabaloo…)?
Aegis, do you think there's a viable strat to use Winter's Wrath for damage with Bleak Watcher? You could potentially skip the freezing attack to shatter twice in a row and preserve more of the Super's duration. Obviously it won't be a viable DPS strat, but it could be fun.
Great research!
Only thing I'm curious about is SE exotic.
How it will count threadlings? Will it count teammate one's too and stack faster?
Probably not worth testing.
I have a question with glacial quake titan, if the Titan is using star-eater to buff the damage and a warlock is using baildors' weavers shadebinder, does the warlock steal or negate the bonus damage of the titans crystals?
hello mr streamer how do you do ground skates consistently? is it just practice?
Wtf now I know why my wave frame felt crap a lot of the times!
Minor question about Glacial Quake: which exotic gives higher DPS, Synthos Or Spirit of Star Eaters?
Look it up
Wave frames having destructive interference is just the physics engine working properly
I use Resolve as well, which text do you use for these? The newer one looks great
Great video like always
Btw what happened at 7:03?
Thanks for the numbers. 👌
Sorry for the dumb question, but what about Storm nades with touch of thunder?
One thing: I might be tripping but I noticed the effects of jolt volatile and unravel weren’t tested
do you have an data about the dps of arc soul, bleak watcher and hellion with facet of courage? solo or team setting
bungie should make a hud for damage numbers and boss health
Nice video again bro❤
Awesome video, cant imagine how mich time u spend on this.
Does whitherhoard stack with an area denial frame gl I don’t remember if you tested that
My goat is here to teach me more damage information on a game I stopped playing!!
aegis i love you lets get it lets go
Surprised agers wasn’t on here
can you find out what Fragment of Ruin does for stasis crystal/freeze break dmg on prismatic?
They should buff Ballidorse to make Winter's Wrath creat crystals on impact so we get some nice shatter damage for once.
What about the shurikens with the new hunter exotic?
precision instrument stacks with my crimils dagger
Video on the best team composition with this knowledge?
Ooo ive been looking for this one
Thanks you!
I feel like planting the dragons breath shot below the boss would do far more dps than then shooting it directly on the boss
maybe u could test no time to explain buddy and void soul as well
"This doing numbers" - Aegis, 2024
(Thanks for the deep dives as usual! Great to have this resource, both to shut my friends down and actually deal damage)
your titan axes testing made me think "why are abilities that debuff the target themselves never tested with a debuff already being applied from a different source to have an actual damage increase/decrease/stacking from whatever source?" like when threeshot tether is tested, you could just use a tractor for the first shot, or use a void buddy or whatever other weaken ability for the axes.
Glacial quake is the GOAT.
Is the dragons breath testing before or after the ignition damage bug fixes?
After obviously
Anyone knows what’s best currently for solo Simmumah? (Ghosts of the Deep boss, on warlock)
6:23 Rest assured, you can’t possibly be shorter than Linus Sebastian(
How did he Shatter skate at the end of the video without a ledge??
Let’s go aegis
7:01 MY PCCCCCC!!!
fun fact: 6 dragon's breath do more damage than one.
not by much, but they do.
No nova warp? :c
Joking, great test
damage from unravel or wolfpack rounds does stack especially well on consecrated mind in GoS, people should try it out
All I understand is that Outbreak is the best. Got it.
no live this week ?
Need some speedrun content bad
This video is nice but most of the time you don’t have be 5 of the same class in any content where damage matters.
It would’ve been nice to see the results for 2-3 of the same class/ability/damage source
shout out [Mars
I will not take slander to my child of the old gods son
RAT KING?
Did you get your account unbanned?
baegis
22:36
Did you get unbanned?
Yes, along a few other players who also got false banned. Theres a vague bungie tweet about a false detection
Finally someone is saying ergo sum correctly
yay
Infovid so fire Aegis gonna get banned again. Well done guardian!
i wish if it wouldn’t break the game bungie would just let us go wild with abilities for a few days. i want to murder the second encounter in vespers with ignitions 😂😂
:3
first?
This video frustrates me
Why? Also what is up dog???
I learned alot GGs. Just stop cheating so you dont get banned.
Lol
Hello vault of glass relic
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