1:00 what are XC bikes, 1:38 what to expect from XC bike, 8:18 what NOT to expect from XC bike, 10:30 whom I recommend XC bike, 10:54 whom I DON'T recommend XC bike.
@SickBiker, nice video and good explanation of the XC bikes itself. But......... Other then what type of bike is meant for what type of mountainbiking, what confuses me most is, what is Cross Country? What does a Cross Country route look like. What should it be, and shouldn`t be in it? I just got myself a Centurion Backfire Pro800 with 27.5" tyres (www.centurion.de/de-de/bike/2018/backfire-pro-800-214) here in germany, that has a less aggressive geomantie. I got it, so I can go out in the forrest and do some riding. To me, that would be XC, or not? I am confused on how the different types of trails for the different types of bikes look like. Road riding is pretty simple, since it`s tarmac anywhere I would take my Felt Roadbike. Perhaps you could put up a video explaining the different types of trails matching the different types of bikes?
XC bikes are GREAT all-around bikes. I disagree that they are ‘only’ for racing. They are very comfortable, lighter and make going distance and uphill much easier - all great things for beginners.
@victor kanuik i use a rose/red Bull npl t6/2 (not a red Bull npl 600) from before 2010 and its also a good allrounder, which i use to climb a little and drive a lot of technical/fast trails
When I was racing, there were XC bikes and DH bikes. XC bikes were the pinnacle of mountain bikes and only people who raced DH owned a DH bike. There were no purpose built mountain bike trails and no lift assisted parks.
I'm going to try to clear up some things he said... As it is confusing. Most entry level HARDTAILS are for cross country. However he is talking about cross country racing. These are courses with technical elements like rock gardens and others. If you buy an entry level bike he calls them sport bikes I believe. Possibly a bit of a language difference. He is very knowledgable for sure and I like his vids. Cross country for non racers means anything from gravel to riding long rides in gentle to not so gentle terrain. You generally do not do big drops or jumps with cross country bikes . Many riders may be skilled enough to do it but the bikes are not meant for these. His bikes remember are race bikes and many cross country bikes are heavier and not for racing. Once you start getting into suspension say 120 and above you start getting into more of a trail bike which encompasses more all around riding. Cross country bikes come in both hardtail and Full susp versions. Race bikes tend to be much lighter and more expensive. Hope this helps some who did not understand.
im a beginner and bought myself a cross country bike (hardtail - 1600 $). i love it and do all stuff with it (uphill, downhill, jumps). ofcourse at the beginning you need to build up some muscles. the easiest way to do this is just to ride your bike lol :D and thats why i love riding my xc mtb. you can build up core muscle strenght, driving fast, jumping around, exploring the woods and just having fun.
Good video, I think many people took from this video that XC are uncomfortable. I don't really think that's true. XC is kind of a broad thing at this point, just as "road bike" is. There are many kinds of XC bikes at this point and this video generally adresses the real race version of these bikes. I'd actually say that XC bikes generally if you're getting one with a more relaxed geometry is something of an optimal do-it-all bike, especially if you want to go far. When drawing a paralell to road bikes you could compare enduro to racing, and gravel to cyclocross, one doesn't take into consideration comfort in order for it to meet competition rules and to go faster for professional riders. That doesn't mean that enduro is worse, it's for those guys who doesn't compete and is willing to sacrifice 5 % efficiency for comfort and fun features.
As long as you're not FULL SENDING IT down 20 feet drops, a decent XC full-suspension bike with 100-120 mm travel is quit capable on fairly rough trails. My 2017 GIANT ANTHEM (alum. frame) with 27.5 x 2.35 Knobby Nick tires frt/rr is all the bike I'll ever need. And it's lightweight, a huge bonus both on road and thru the trails. It's not the cheapest bike at $2,800, but much more sensible than spending up to $10,000 for having multiple bikes - but that's my personal 2 cents. Good luck and have fun to all who venture into the mountain biking sport. Choose your bicycle wisely no matter what your financial budget allows or riding lifestyle and your future self will thank you greatly. Edited P.S. That's my third bike, 2nd bike was a '95 GIANT YUKON 26 inch h/t with measly 70mm susp. fork, 1st bike Huffy 24 inch mountain bike. I'm hoping this ANTHEM will be my last bike, as my biology won't likely let me outgrow it.
My $500 Motobecane Fantom 29 is definitely an XC bike. It's geometry is almost identical to your Cannondale. It came with lightweight rims, WTB Nano 2.1 tires, SRAM drivetrain (3x8 -- lowest gear is a Shimano 34T Megarange). It performs amazingly. A couple of my buddies have trail bikes and often get left behind on climbs. The real question is.......how did you get out in the woods with TWO bikes? LOL
Here in the Philippines, xc bikes are used for touring and long distance travel. Well, we use enduro and downhill bikes on the road anyways so no biggie for us.
Mate you are confusing XC race bikes and normal XC bikes... which is what most people have!!! again if you don't go full race mode the body position on an XC bike is very comfortable Really disappointing video for a "Beginners Guide"
I believe he means XC race bikes and not entry-level hardtails that are marketed as XC bikes which he mentions would be good for beginners cause there are more durable and for general-purpose use rather than just racing like the XC bikes.
I know this vid is a few years old now - but thank you so much, the info was amazing!! It really helped explain the questions I've been looking for and has convinced me that an XC bike ISN'T the bike that I'm after.
Some good information in this video. However, it is pretty condescending to say, you shouldn't buy a cross country mountain bike unless you are going to be a racer. All you mortals should stick to crappy $500 bikes. There are tens of thousands of xc bikes sold every year to people who will never race. Cross country bikes offer versatility, efficiency and a closer feel for the trail than trail bikes or sports bikes (Kmart bikes?). A better approach would be to advise non racers to consider the difficulty of trail they are riding. It is true that you can get in trouble in a hurry riding a xc bike on an advanced technical trail. I have been mountain biking for 30 years. Over that time, most of my bikes have been xc hardtails. To me, a trail bike with big cushy suspension feels like riding a comfy chair around in the woods. I have had some epic crashes that I probably would not have had on a squishy bike but I have also had some epic fun that I would not have had on a squishy bike.
thank you! I just bought a Scott scale 940 for my first mtb and I might race someday when I get fast but probably not. this guy's video is discouraging to newbies like me. I went for an xc bike cause I'm in it for cardio, I want to go fast and keep training to be faster. I'm not trying to "send it", just wanna go fast.
if it feels like riding comfy chair, try switching from green trail to blue at least, idk. Also, xc hardtail is nowhere close in versatility compared to trail hardtails with plus tires, 140 travel, droppost and slack headtube.
i bought a kind of trail bike which was xc orientated (lightest i could find at my price range of 500ish, short travel, long stem) and i really enjoy it. would recommend the btwin rockrider 560 for a beginner
Adding to what's not already been said. Most new and experienced riders that buy long travel trail or Enduro bikes ride much tamer trails or at lower speeds than the bike is designed for, wasting energy on a bike that's too soft. Some folks commented that XC is for beginners. This is wrong, Denny is right. They're nimble and fast, but can be set up to be a LITTLE LESS FORGIVING. If you're looking to get in shape and want to PEDAL, XC bikes provide a positive feedback loop. The faster the bike rolls, the faster you'll WANT to PEDAL. Before you know it, you'll be dropping pounds and getting fitter all the time, and you'll come home each time with a smile on your face!
right? it's the closest a mountain bike can be to a road bike in terms of weight and frame angles so i really don''t see why it would be bad for commuting and riding on road. Of course it's worse than a road bike for that purpose but that is besides the point of bike versatility. Only a person owning 5+ bikes would say something like that. And the argument for the saddle is just like - switch it for long rides and set it lower? lol
My first real mountian bike,the gt verb elite really showed me the feel of a cross country so well.as owning a downhill wal mart bike,the elite really showed me what a joke the hill i climb to my gym really is,because on the downhill id burn out by the time i got up,but on the elite i got up 1 hill and than went for round 2 for another.this video really helped me understand why because to me i thought it was magic at first XD. (i consider walmart bikes as not really mountian bikes because they usally have labels saying not to go on trails.
My first bike is an XC bike with 100mm of travel and it seems pretty versatile to me. I can’t imagine buying a different bike as a beginner and then changing it 6 months in! Cycling is already an expensive sport 😄
Good XC bike is very capable, especially with rear suspension. XC also means marathons so not only short races. Good tires and right pressure can make a pretty nice allrounder from XC bike :-) Put nice saddle on it and you have also comfortable ride for whole day. I don't agree with most of your statements in this video :-) sorry...
An XC bike that’s only for riding 90 minutes?! That’s absurd! When I was racing off road, we often had races that went longer than 2 hours. You need to toughen your butt up. You should be able to spend 5+ hours on an XC bike. And even if I only did a 90 minute race, I required an hour long warm up beforehand. So a 90 minute race meant a 2&1/2 to 3 hour day.
i started riding with a rock rider 5 xc / front susp only and i found out that it's not a comfort bike but u can go very speed with it / and when u compare it with any other bike who are not xc u will find that it is the best for racing and for people who wanna start learning how to race . edit : and this was my op
auto disliked when you said it is not an all-rounder, i used this on hard trails and long rides, yet they're very comfortable and great, all stock and it is beginner bike.
I am 62 and ride a 2016 Focus Raven max SL hardtail, XTR double with DT XRC 1200 wheels, upgraded seat, lighter carbon bars and stem, 21.00 pounds WITH pedals and Tune 10 gram cage-- LOVE it
The lefty shocks are way overhauled and are by far the stiffed for their weight and one of the stiffed in general. They have less friction and are super smooth! And they save weight, they make great forks!
Alguien que confirme La doble suspensión no te dará la mejor eficiencia pero será más cómoda para descender Y la hardtail será más rápida pero no será la más cómoda para descensos, es correcto???
xc is an allrounder bike....for me just ordered my Trek xcaliber 9 in alpine blue what do you think a good purchase...nothing crazy just casual trail and xc riding??
Im very much enjoying my time with XC bike. I thought i made plenty of research before buying mtb, but it seems i did not:D Its kinda hard to know as a beginner what bike feels the best, because every bike felt weird:) now couple months later, im loving the sport and maby it would be easier/more comfortable to have trail bike, but anyway im just enjoying it so much.
awesome - I just started to think about a Mountain Bike for the Winter month and was overwhelmed regarding the different types. Now I know, I'm not in for a XC bike. Looking forward to the next videos (All Mountain / Tour / Enduro etc)
I just ordered a new 2018 Rose Psycho Path 1 and im a beginner in mountainbikes...i realy like that sporty look and that yellow color) and the Psycho Path 1 is one of the cheapest Carbon-Bikes out there and it has SLX components all the way, more than enough for beginners. im a bit overweight and im want to use the bike to get in better shape but if i cant deal with the geometry i can send it back. I just wanted one bike for everything. And i thought a XC-Bike also works pretty well as a street/Tour-Bike and maybe drive some trails after i got in better shape. As i said i wanted a versitale bike i hope it suits me.
"not commuters, not all-rounders" i ride mine on road every day, i use it as a commuter. i never liked road bikes with their tiny tires, a mtb feels more "manly" lol.
England is my city also I think I could go for a long ride on my cross country bike. Granted it’s more of a “all rounder” than a true xc bike but it actually feels better to ride than my comfort hybrid bike. Ironic ain’t it?
I bought a Giant Talon 2 as my 1st MTB, i liked it and it was on my budget but now that i know a little more knowledge, im looking for a trail bike. I prefer enjoying the little jumps and features than racing in the XC
Well I got a old xc bike which I shoved a. Stiffer coil and new shock plus a 50mm stem and wider handle bars and I use it like a dj bike and do su plus some enduro style trails with some climbing but a lot of decents soooooo Yeah
I disagree when you said XC bikes are made for racing in laps. XC bikes and Downhill bikes are both mountain bikes and the purpose of the Klunkers who have made the XC bikes is to add gears, suspension, braking system, geometry... so that anyone can go anywhere in a bike. That is climb mountains, off-roading, trails, mud, rivers, all-terrain... Should have included the history of XC bikes.
Right now I ride a 27.5 XC H/T. I weigh 180lbs and I am 68 years old. I really love the 'purest' H/T. What I am missing though is what really is the difference between a full susp H/T and a full susp. trail bike?????
The best explanation i ever heard. Greetings Form Berlin. Ghost htx 5800 lector ist the one i ride. What do you think about suntour lytro? P.S. a friend of my (97kg man) is trying (over months) to get his bike lighter than my htx5800 (8.3kg)...i telling him that such a light weight of a bike can be dangerous for his 97kg..?Hey bought shortly a rigid fork to make the bike even lighter. What would you say?
Hi to Berlin :) I don't know SunTour Lytro fork, but if it's similar to Axon, then it's a good one. 8 kg bike for 97 kg can indeed be a bit fragile for a TERRAIN use. The rigid fork, depending on the brand can be as strong as the suspensed one, but once more not necessarily for MTB rides of a 97 kg rider. He can loose the weight on a road quickly though :)
More beginner trix and tips to improve balance..I have average balance and when I front wheel hop or try endo turn I usually fall over.So beginner trials tips while were doing long rides would be great..Also biking in the snow is very fun..Small screws inside tire and padding to cover them ..blow up tube..Studded Mtb Wheels..Fun
Beginner tricks are very helpful,, Alot more are needed and beginner balancing skills to train body and mind..like fakies..revert..nosebonks..nolliess.I suppose as many trial skills that improve mtb and street riders..Keep up the good work.. Tim McDroid
So if I just want a super lightweight bike that can be ridden on road, gravel, and some trails, what bike would it be? Is it not possible? I love speed, so what, do I just get a motorcycle? But I want to go on adventures, all the while getting great fitness and health benefits. All I want my bike to be is to be lightweight (20-25lbs), that would make it speedy, a little bit comfortable, be able to go off road on some hills (not too rocky or aggressive because I like to go camping), be able to be on the road for some commute and ride with family comfortably and fast. Is there a bike for me? I just want one bike. I can not afford 2.
xc bike. I just got a nice one and im pretty new but so far its amazing to bike roads to a park then absolutely fly around trails. Only thing is i will agree the saddle on my xc bike can be pretty damn uncomfortable after a few hours so ill prob add weight with a dropper and thicker saddle
So I wanted to buy a new bike, a hardtail. And I was looking at used bikes, new bikes. Something didn't feel right, my neck was hurting, I felt all my weight on my hands, it was like doing pushups all the time (btw, I also used to work out at the gym so I'm not completely a vegetable). I didn't have fun, I didn't like it. After months of investigating, trying out bikes etc I finally understood I was testing XC bikes. And for some reason, EVERYONE in Romania has XC hardtails. It's crazy. Also, all the cheaper hardtails are XC. Expensive ones? Carbon, but still XC. This is what's selling FOR SOME REASON. All of them with super-low stack height, and none of my friends really ever knew what they were riding, they just knew they had a "good bike" with "good components". Components mean nothing. I hate XC bikes, I love trail bikes. I feel more in control, I can see nature around me instead of being forced into that face down position with neck pain.
Danny, I am deeply sorry to say that I don t agree with your video. I am following you since 1 year ago, everything is just the best! But I thought that the beggining lf the mtb ing is XC and the XC bike is the all rounder for mtb. Cheers from Romania!
You don't have to be sorry Calin ;) As I said, I'm using my XC bikes to pretty much everything, but all the beginners should be aware of they features.
Trail is not that extreme, maybe you are thinking about Enduro? Trail I think is better for beginners than an real XC bike. Trail bikes are usually a little bit more robust and comfy when riding in the woods. Pozdrav Srbine!
Help! yesterday i checked on Trek XC Caliber 8 2019 here in Kathmandu. Will it be a good choice if i plan to do some high mountain bikepacking in this machine? The terrain i will face are rugged, steep Himalayan ups & downs ranging from altitude of 2000 mts to 4500-5000 mts asl. The salesguy also proposed Trek Marlin 7. What would be suitable for me?
Could you recommend merida big nine nx Edition to me as a beginner?? I had Merida big nine 100 and rode for two or three yrs....and now I have merida big nine NX-Edition now for three months now...i dont do competitions.... Just happy rides in the bush
Well explained. I just bought a Norco storm 4. It's labeled as a cross country bike. Would you say that's what it is in the true sense or more just a beginner bike?
XC bikes are cheaper, I would prefer something more of a trail bike. I won't be doing anything extreme as Im fairly new. But I got the Giant Talon 3 29er as it was the best thing I could afford.
Most beginners purchase a cross country bike, because of prohibitive prices on trail bikes. Not necessarily all XC bikes are made for racing, they’re made to get beginners into the sport at a not unfathomable price point. It’s just a fact that wider wheels, wider tires, longer travel suspension, powerful brakes, and progressive geometry simply cost more.
Bought an orbea mx40, 450 pounds. The suntour suspension is so bad it won't allow for even pump tracks without leaking oil like a 7 year old watching a horror movie.
Can you make a indepth video on how you race xc? Like how do you pick lines, bidy positions while you are on trail, how to control your bike on techy parts and braking
Just maybe get used to the geometry first since it will be a more aggressive position compared to a trail bike or beginner mountain bike, but yes, you can use it on the trails.
Hello and thanks for the video! Question, I ve got myself an Author 29er Rival 2018 model (what type of bike you call it? Entry level?) and I'm riding bike since kid but never for long periods of time but, I ve got the bike for 3 months now and although my butt hurt like he'll in the beginning, I now ride 30-45 km per 2 days and I feel good! So I start to love this bike and that type of driving(aggressive, been able to jump curves, been able to ride down steps.) What type of bike would you recommend me? Also I m a big dude 1.93 m.
Danny, I purchased the f-si carbon 5. You did influence the purchase a little and I really like the bike. Question, my old dropper post does not fit so I need a new post. I was thinking of forgoing the dropper and going with the carbon Cannondale "save" seat post as you have on your f-si. I know differences, how to you like the "compliance" flex of the seat post? Is it to bouncy? Thanks
Unfortunately watch your video very late, already order a giant xtc slr1 , small in size , my height is 5.6ft age 41yr, will ride it mainly on road and during weekends...if you have some free time for me, let me know what modification I can do in that which will help me to ride that bike little comfortably and for a longer duration... thank you.
I've got a 2015 specialized Crave Pro I picked up for $500 a million times better than the Raleigh Tokul 1 I started on much more comfortable for long rides 10lb lighter, air fork.
Hi, I am about to buy a Cannondale scalpel with Lefty 2.0 for amateur XC races. I heard horrible stories about the reliability and service maintenance. Can you share some of your experience on Lefty service demand comparing to traditional forks? I would appreciate your comments. Thank you. Mike
Mihály Bodócs I have a lefty and have been using is for several months now with no issues. I also work at a cannondale dealer and we work on lefty’s all the time. While lefty’s do encounter more or different problems than a normal fork, everything on a lefty is fixable or serviceable pretty easily by a cannondale dealer. Best feeling fork I’ve ever ridden
great video. Now I know why my bike is uncomfortable lol. I bought used one Specialized Stumpjumper fsr xc. Guys don't judge me, I got it for very cheap! Can I convert it to more comfortable? :D Maybe shorter stem? I already changed saddle. Any tips? :)
Haha, Yeah, I have a specialized Stumpjumper FSR XC I got it (silver base model) in 1999(?) It's all original and has always been kept in my bedroom. It's almost spotless though 21 years old! I entered it in a Duathlon 3 years ago, people looking at it asked if it was new(!) It's really aggressive and yeah super uncomfortable for long 6-8 hour rides, kills my ass. But it's the best design I've ever seen even amoung modern bikes. Happy riding!
Any suggestions for a starter bike for someone that would like to possibly compete in XC? I'd like to go for a full on XC bike, but it doesn't seem there are any meant so much for someone training or intermediate level, so I wouldn't have to make such a huge investment in the beginning, in case I cannot eventually compete? Maybe there is but I don't have so much time to research! If there is anyone with any suggestions, I would love to hear them :)
Nice bike! I'm beginning to realize I will have to save a bit longer than I'd hoped for a solid bike. Will get there though! Appreciate the suggestion, man!
1:00 what are XC bikes,
1:38 what to expect from XC bike,
8:18 what NOT to expect from XC bike,
10:30 whom I recommend XC bike,
10:54 whom I DON'T recommend XC bike.
SickBiker wow this is the first time I've seen any channel do this Thanks and keep up these great videos 😁
@SickBiker, nice video and good explanation of the XC bikes itself.
But.........
Other then what type of bike is meant for what type of mountainbiking, what confuses me most is, what is Cross Country?
What does a Cross Country route look like. What should it be, and shouldn`t be in it?
I just got myself a Centurion Backfire Pro800 with 27.5" tyres (www.centurion.de/de-de/bike/2018/backfire-pro-800-214) here in germany, that has a less aggressive geomantie. I got it, so I can go out in the forrest and do some riding.
To me, that would be XC, or not?
I am confused on how the different types of trails for the different types of bikes look like.
Road riding is pretty simple, since it`s tarmac anywhere I would take my Felt Roadbike.
Perhaps you could put up a video explaining the different types of trails matching the different types of bikes?
I am a beginner mountain biker, I had Merida big nine 100 for two yrs and now I have merida big nine nx Edition.... You think its worthy it?
Am I the only one notice the missing half fork (the hardtail one.)
Is the bike on your left has only 1 stanchion?
XC bikes are GREAT all-around bikes. I disagree that they are ‘only’ for racing. They are very comfortable, lighter and make going distance and uphill much easier - all great things for beginners.
I use my xc bike as an all-rounder and it is perfectly fine.
That’s cool but what he’s saying is that XC bikes are not designed to be “all-rounders”.
@victor kanuik i use a rose/red Bull npl t6/2 (not a red Bull npl 600) from before 2010 and its also a good allrounder, which i use to climb a little and drive a lot of technical/fast trails
I use mine on our local dh track with 80mm travel and it's still fine
When I was racing, there were XC bikes and DH bikes. XC bikes were the pinnacle of mountain bikes and only people who raced DH owned a DH bike. There were no purpose built mountain bike trails and no lift assisted parks.
26er, 120mm travel fork, hardtail. Tried Enduro trail in my province, and perfectly fine
I'm going to try to clear up some things he said... As it is confusing. Most entry level HARDTAILS are for cross country. However he is talking about cross country racing. These are courses with technical elements like rock gardens and others. If you buy an entry level bike he calls them sport bikes I believe. Possibly a bit of a language difference. He is very knowledgable for sure and I like his vids. Cross country for non racers means anything from gravel to riding long rides in gentle to not so gentle terrain. You generally do not do big drops or jumps with cross country bikes . Many riders may be skilled enough to do it but the bikes are not meant for these. His bikes remember are race bikes and many cross country bikes are heavier and not for racing. Once you start getting into suspension say 120 and above you start getting into more of a trail bike which encompasses more all around riding. Cross country bikes come in both hardtail and Full susp versions. Race bikes tend to be much lighter and more expensive. Hope this helps some who did not understand.
im a beginner and bought myself a cross country bike (hardtail - 1600 $). i love it and do all stuff with it (uphill, downhill, jumps). ofcourse at the beginning you need to build up some muscles. the easiest way to do this is just to ride your bike lol :D and thats why i love riding my xc mtb. you can build up core muscle strenght, driving fast, jumping around, exploring the woods and just having fun.
Good video, I think many people took from this video that XC are uncomfortable. I don't really think that's true.
XC is kind of a broad thing at this point, just as "road bike" is. There are many kinds of XC bikes at this point and this video generally adresses the real race version of these bikes.
I'd actually say that XC bikes generally if you're getting one with a more relaxed geometry is something of an optimal do-it-all bike, especially if you want to go far.
When drawing a paralell to road bikes you could compare enduro to racing, and gravel to cyclocross, one doesn't take into consideration comfort in order for it to meet competition rules and to go faster for professional riders. That doesn't mean that enduro is worse, it's for those guys who doesn't compete and is willing to sacrifice 5 % efficiency for comfort and fun features.
As long as you're not FULL SENDING IT down 20 feet drops, a decent XC full-suspension bike with 100-120 mm travel is quit capable on fairly rough trails. My 2017 GIANT ANTHEM (alum. frame) with 27.5 x 2.35 Knobby Nick tires frt/rr is all the bike I'll ever need. And it's lightweight, a huge bonus both on road and thru the trails. It's not the cheapest bike at $2,800, but much more sensible than spending up to $10,000 for having multiple bikes - but that's my personal 2 cents. Good luck and have fun to all who venture into the mountain biking sport. Choose your bicycle wisely no matter what your financial budget allows or riding lifestyle and your future self will thank you greatly.
Edited P.S. That's my third bike, 2nd bike was a '95 GIANT YUKON 26 inch h/t with measly 70mm susp. fork, 1st bike Huffy 24 inch mountain bike. I'm hoping this ANTHEM will be my last bike, as my biology won't likely let me outgrow it.
My $500 Motobecane Fantom 29 is definitely an XC bike. It's geometry is almost identical to your Cannondale. It came with lightweight rims, WTB Nano 2.1 tires, SRAM drivetrain (3x8 -- lowest gear is a Shimano 34T Megarange). It performs amazingly. A couple of my buddies have trail bikes and often get left behind on climbs.
The real question is.......how did you get out in the woods with TWO bikes? LOL
Here in the Philippines, xc bikes are used for touring and long distance travel. Well, we use enduro and downhill bikes on the road anyways so no biggie for us.
Mate you are confusing XC race bikes and normal XC bikes... which is what most people have!!! again if you don't go full race mode the body position on an XC bike is very comfortable
Really disappointing video for a "Beginners Guide"
I believe he means XC race bikes and not entry-level hardtails that are marketed as XC bikes which he mentions would be good for beginners cause there are more durable and for general-purpose use rather than just racing like the XC bikes.
@@manishnel you mean bikes like giant talon or trek marlin?
He's not confusing anything. He explained the difference quite clearly towards the end of the video.
This a very informative video for us newbies... THANK YOU!!!
I know this vid is a few years old now - but thank you so much, the info was amazing!! It really helped explain the questions I've been looking for and has convinced me that an XC bike ISN'T the bike that I'm after.
Thanks for the effort and the video, it's informative for a person who isn't into xc racing.
Some good information in this video. However, it is pretty condescending to say, you shouldn't buy a cross country mountain bike unless you are going to be a racer. All you mortals should stick to crappy $500 bikes. There are tens of thousands of xc bikes sold every year to people who will never race. Cross country bikes offer versatility, efficiency and a closer feel for the trail than trail bikes or sports bikes (Kmart bikes?). A better approach would be to advise non racers to consider the difficulty of trail they are riding. It is true that you can get in trouble in a hurry riding a xc bike on an advanced technical trail. I have been mountain biking for 30 years. Over that time, most of my bikes have been xc hardtails. To me, a trail bike with big cushy suspension feels like riding a comfy chair around in the woods. I have had some epic crashes that I probably would not have had on a squishy bike but I have also had some epic fun that I would not have had on a squishy bike.
thank you! I just bought a Scott scale 940 for my first mtb and I might race someday when I get fast but probably not. this guy's video is discouraging to newbies like me. I went for an xc bike cause I'm in it for cardio, I want to go fast and keep training to be faster. I'm not trying to "send it", just wanna go fast.
if it feels like riding comfy chair, try switching from green trail to blue at least, idk. Also, xc hardtail is nowhere close in versatility compared to trail hardtails with plus tires, 140 travel, droppost and slack headtube.
i bought a kind of trail bike which was xc orientated (lightest i could find at my price range of 500ish, short travel, long stem) and i really enjoy it. would recommend the btwin rockrider 560 for a beginner
Adding to what's not already been said. Most new and experienced riders that buy long travel trail or Enduro bikes ride much tamer trails or at lower speeds than the bike is designed for, wasting energy on a bike that's too soft. Some folks commented that XC is for beginners. This is wrong, Denny is right. They're nimble and fast, but can be set up to be a LITTLE LESS FORGIVING. If you're looking to get in shape and want to PEDAL, XC bikes provide a positive feedback loop. The faster the bike rolls, the faster you'll WANT to PEDAL. Before you know it, you'll be dropping pounds and getting fitter all the time, and you'll come home each time with a smile on your face!
jokes on you, I ride my XC hardtail when going to work and local trails on weekends :)
right? it's the closest a mountain bike can be to a road bike in terms of weight and frame angles so i really don''t see why it would be bad for commuting and riding on road. Of course it's worse than a road bike for that purpose but that is besides the point of bike versatility. Only a person owning 5+ bikes would say something like that. And the argument for the saddle is just like - switch it for long rides and set it lower? lol
Messing with the seat is a regular thing on XC bikes. I have 4 marks on my tube for various things I do.
@@Rafael_Fuchs maybe a dropper post would be a good addition to your bike
My first real mountian bike,the gt verb elite really showed me the feel of a cross country so well.as owning a downhill wal mart bike,the elite really showed me what a joke the hill i climb to my gym really is,because on the downhill id burn out by the time i got up,but on the elite i got up 1 hill and than went for round 2 for another.this video really helped me understand why because to me i thought it was magic at first XD.
(i consider walmart bikes as not really mountian bikes because they usally have labels saying not to go on trails.
My first bike is an XC bike with 100mm of travel and it seems pretty versatile to me. I can’t imagine buying a different bike as a beginner and then changing it 6 months in! Cycling is already an expensive sport 😄
Good XC bike is very capable, especially with rear suspension. XC also means marathons so not only short races. Good tires and right pressure can make a pretty nice allrounder from XC bike :-) Put nice saddle on it and you have also comfortable ride for whole day. I don't agree with most of your statements in this video :-) sorry...
This is the sort of info I did not find elsewhere. Great explanation of exactly what I needed.
An XC bike that’s only for riding 90 minutes?! That’s absurd! When I was racing off road, we often had races that went longer than 2 hours. You need to toughen your butt up. You should be able to spend 5+ hours on an XC bike. And even if I only did a 90 minute race, I required an hour long warm up beforehand. So a 90 minute race meant a 2&1/2 to 3 hour day.
i started riding with a rock rider 5 xc / front susp only and i found out that it's not a comfort bike but u can go very speed with it / and when u compare it with any other bike who are not xc u will find that it is the best for racing and for people who wanna start learning how to race
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edit : and this was my op
auto disliked when you said it is not an all-rounder, i used this on hard trails and long rides, yet they're very comfortable and great, all stock and it is beginner bike.
I have been riding a junky old XC H/T, just ordered a dual susp XC. Can't wait!
I testet the Santa Cruz Blur for two weeks. It is so comfortable on long rides, so i don't miss my Allmountain which is heavy as hell.!
Man, I like your channel and sometimes I use some of your advices but, I really have to desagree with you today...
I am 62 and ride a 2016 Focus Raven max SL hardtail, XTR double with DT XRC 1200 wheels, upgraded seat, lighter carbon bars and stem, 21.00 pounds WITH pedals and Tune 10 gram cage-- LOVE it
jim dandy why a double? 1x is so flawless now a day
@@crsxbike2164 Because of the low gears mate.
Great video as usual, love to hear your tips about bikes
That left shocks... I'm not sure if I'd have enough faith on a single shock lol.
Looks cool doe.
The lefty shocks are way overhauled and are by far the stiffed for their weight and one of the stiffed in general. They have less friction and are super smooth! And they save weight, they make great forks!
Alguien que confirme
La doble suspensión no te dará la mejor eficiencia pero será más cómoda para descender
Y la hardtail será más rápida pero no será la más cómoda para descensos, es correcto???
i use XC bike as my all rounder. xc on downhill courses are fun :P
xc is an allrounder bike....for me just ordered my Trek xcaliber 9 in alpine blue what do you think a good purchase...nothing crazy just casual trail and xc riding??
Prefer double on my xc bike. More range and fewer drops between cogs ratios.
like your videos! I also got a Cannondale Trail 6 recently. but I dont have enjoyment to take full advantage from it :D
Im very much enjoying my time with XC bike. I thought i made plenty of research before buying mtb, but it seems i did not:D Its kinda hard to know as a beginner what bike feels the best, because every bike felt weird:) now couple months later, im loving the sport and maby it would be easier/more comfortable to have trail bike, but anyway im just enjoying it so much.
I like the way you point the Frames of the Bike the Geometry and all👍
awesome - I just started to think about a Mountain Bike for the Winter month and was overwhelmed regarding the different types. Now I know, I'm not in for a XC bike. Looking forward to the next videos (All Mountain / Tour / Enduro etc)
I just ordered a new 2018 Rose Psycho Path 1 and im a beginner in mountainbikes...i realy like that sporty look and that yellow color) and the Psycho Path 1 is one of the cheapest Carbon-Bikes out there and it has SLX components all the way, more than enough for beginners. im a bit overweight and im want to use the bike to get in better shape but if i cant deal with the geometry i can send it back. I just wanted one bike for everything. And i thought a XC-Bike also works pretty well as a street/Tour-Bike and maybe drive some trails after i got in better shape. As i said i wanted a versitale bike i hope it suits me.
How did it go?
Yeah man how did that work out, I’m in a similar position
Great video! I wish I could grab those bikes through the screen 😁
"not commuters, not all-rounders"
i ride mine on road every day, i use it as a commuter. i never liked road bikes with their tiny tires, a mtb feels more "manly" lol.
Yeap
England is my city also I think I could go for a long ride on my cross country bike. Granted it’s more of a “all rounder” than a true xc bike but it actually feels better to ride than my comfort hybrid bike. Ironic ain’t it?
I have a second hand giant aluxx 6000 series butted tubing
Built for leisure cross country
With 26” wheels
Same. Love it. Just did an overhaul
@@justinjesse2107 mine wasn't handled well and instead of buying parts I'm trying to get a bigger bike
Thank you for another great video Danny. I really enjoy how you break down the topics. It is invaluable to beginners like me.
Dude,I think your videos are pretty cool. 👍
nice vid... cant wait you to make vid for trail bikes
I bought a Giant Talon 2 as my 1st MTB, i liked it and it was on my budget but now that i know a little more knowledge, im looking for a trail bike. I prefer enjoying the little jumps and features than racing in the XC
Excellent, to the point, for understanding the XC as a choice. Tks.
I own a Trek X-Caliber 9, and I can confirm it is not built for comfort.
no hardtail is
I've had mine since 2014. I love it but I can can also confirm, Comfort ain't what it is meant for.
Well I got a old xc bike which I shoved a. Stiffer coil and new shock plus a 50mm stem and wider handle bars and I use it like a dj bike and do su plus some enduro style trails with some climbing but a lot of decents soooooo
Yeah
Thank you for your explanation.
I disagree when you said XC bikes are made for racing in laps. XC bikes and Downhill bikes are both mountain bikes and the purpose of the Klunkers who have made the XC bikes is to add gears, suspension, braking system, geometry... so that anyone can go anywhere in a bike. That is climb mountains, off-roading, trails, mud, rivers, all-terrain... Should have included the history of XC bikes.
What is very popular now, as I see many rides on in the forest. Cyclocross!
Right now I ride a 27.5 XC H/T. I weigh 180lbs and I am 68 years old. I really love the 'purest' H/T. What I am missing though is what really is the difference between a full susp H/T and a full susp. trail bike?????
The best explanation i ever heard. Greetings Form Berlin. Ghost htx 5800 lector ist the one i ride.
What do you think about suntour lytro?
P.S. a friend of my (97kg man) is trying (over months) to get his bike lighter than my htx5800 (8.3kg)...i telling him that such a light weight of a bike can be dangerous for his 97kg..?Hey bought shortly a rigid fork to make the bike even lighter. What would you say?
Hi to Berlin :) I don't know SunTour Lytro fork, but if it's similar to Axon, then it's a good one. 8 kg bike for 97 kg can indeed be a bit fragile for a TERRAIN use. The rigid fork, depending on the brand can be as strong as the suspensed one, but once more not necessarily for MTB rides of a 97 kg rider. He can loose the weight on a road quickly though :)
Thank u so much for this video. It is very educational 💯👍
More beginner trix and tips to improve balance..I have average balance and when I front wheel hop or try endo turn I usually fall over.So beginner trials tips while were doing long rides would be great..Also biking in the snow is very fun..Small screws inside tire and padding to cover them ..blow up tube..Studded Mtb Wheels..Fun
Nice vid, but I d like to disagree with the size. I am 1,63m small and I am enjoying a 29" wheeled XC carbon bike with a 15" XXS frame. Works!
Are you sure about size xxs?? I had s when I was 1,60 and now I have 1,75 L carbon
@@blazen4872 sorry. 15 Inch frame is S not XXS...
Beginner tricks are very helpful,, Alot more are needed and beginner balancing skills to train body and mind..like fakies..revert..nosebonks..nolliess.I suppose as many trial skills that improve mtb and street riders..Keep up the good work..
Tim McDroid
XC bikers are just about the most powerful and fastest bikers i know... they are another breed
Very informative! Great explanation SickBiker!
Thank you for saving my butt and my money
Great video. Many thanks!
So if I just want a super lightweight bike that can be ridden on road, gravel, and some trails, what bike would it be? Is it not possible? I love speed, so what, do I just get a motorcycle? But I want to go on adventures, all the while getting great fitness and health benefits. All I want my bike to be is to be lightweight (20-25lbs), that would make it speedy, a little bit comfortable, be able to go off road on some hills (not too rocky or aggressive because I like to go camping), be able to be on the road for some commute and ride with family comfortably and fast. Is there a bike for me? I just want one bike. I can not afford 2.
Xc bike
xc bike. I just got a nice one and im pretty new but so far its amazing to bike roads to a park then absolutely fly around trails. Only thing is i will agree the saddle on my xc bike can be pretty damn uncomfortable after a few hours so ill prob add weight with a dropper and thicker saddle
Hybrid mtb
Gravel bikes are really light, and go on and off road.
Please do the same video for enduro bikes?
I Bought A O3 Brodie HT Just Mounted a 32RLF Rolling Nice I Ride Pavement To Work And Single Track Home 😎 I Get Home At 7 lol 😁
I Just Bought A RockyMountain ThunderBolt 😎 GOODTIMES 😎
So I wanted to buy a new bike, a hardtail. And I was looking at used bikes, new bikes. Something didn't feel right, my neck was hurting, I felt all my weight on my hands, it was like doing pushups all the time (btw, I also used to work out at the gym so I'm not completely a vegetable). I didn't have fun, I didn't like it.
After months of investigating, trying out bikes etc I finally understood I was testing XC bikes. And for some reason, EVERYONE in Romania has XC hardtails. It's crazy. Also, all the cheaper hardtails are XC. Expensive ones? Carbon, but still XC. This is what's selling FOR SOME REASON. All of them with super-low stack height, and none of my friends really ever knew what they were riding, they just knew they had a "good bike" with "good components".
Components mean nothing. I hate XC bikes, I love trail bikes. I feel more in control, I can see nature around me instead of being forced into that face down position with neck pain.
Hi, i think you missed out the topic on the tires volume for XC bike, 2.1" or 2.25", how about 2.35" front wheel, rear wheel 2.25" ?
Danny, I am deeply sorry to say that I don t agree with your video. I am following you since 1 year ago, everything is just the best! But I thought that the beggining lf the mtb ing is XC and the XC bike is the all rounder for mtb.
Cheers from Romania!
You don't have to be sorry Calin ;) As I said, I'm using my XC bikes to pretty much everything, but all the beginners should be aware of they features.
well xc is the easiest to get into
1:59 Ree suspension
Really enjoyed this explanation.
+Ride With Mike Thanks!
trail and downhill are too extreme and xc is just perfect
Trail is not that extreme, maybe you are thinking about Enduro? Trail I think is better for beginners than an real XC bike. Trail bikes are usually a little bit more robust and comfy when riding in the woods. Pozdrav Srbine!
Help! yesterday i checked on Trek XC Caliber 8 2019 here in Kathmandu. Will it be a good choice if i plan to do some high mountain bikepacking in this machine? The terrain i will face are rugged, steep Himalayan ups & downs ranging from altitude of 2000 mts to 4500-5000 mts asl. The salesguy also proposed Trek Marlin 7. What would be suitable for me?
I'm thinking of buying trek marlin 7!? What you think is it a good bike 🤔
Do yourself a favour and get a Superfly 6 instead...
The X Caliber has a better frame and is well worth the additional price. It is well suited for bike packing because it has rack and pannier mounts.
Excelente! Valuable info
Could you recommend merida big nine nx Edition to me as a beginner?? I had Merida big nine 100 and rode for two or three yrs....and now I have merida big nine NX-Edition now for three months now...i dont do competitions....
Just happy rides in the bush
Well explained. I just bought a Norco storm 4. It's labeled as a cross country bike. Would you say that's what it is in the true sense or more just a beginner bike?
XC bikes are cheaper, I would prefer something more of a trail bike. I won't be doing anything extreme as Im fairly new.
But I got the Giant Talon 3 29er as it was the best thing I could afford.
i got the exact same bike. great starting bike.
Most beginners purchase a cross country bike, because of prohibitive prices on trail bikes. Not necessarily all XC bikes are made for racing, they’re made to get beginners into the sport at a not unfathomable price point. It’s just a fact that wider wheels, wider tires, longer travel suspension, powerful brakes, and progressive geometry simply cost more.
Optimal position for comfort and efficiency is when handlebar is at the same height as saddle is. Low handlebar position is for performance only.
Arūnas M. You need to have a low bars in order to make it through some steep climbs.
So I should not buy this type bike if I wanna ride a 30 mile course over high moorland? And go fast. And am a beginner... well to mountain bikes...
This would be perfect. Well you could go for a Down-country bike ~120MM of travel a xc bbike would do just fine!
Bought an orbea mx40, 450 pounds. The suntour suspension is so bad it won't allow for even pump tracks without leaking oil like a 7 year old watching a horror movie.
Can you make a indepth video on how you race xc? Like how do you pick lines, bidy positions while you are on trail, how to control your bike on techy parts and braking
Can I use my Trail 4 cannodale for xc race?
Thank you
Hello Danny. What do you think about my Felt Nine Trail 2011. Should I throw a Reba fork on it? Thanks for the video.
great content
Nice thanks
Can i use my corss country's bike for trails? Its my fisrt bike it was a gift
Just maybe get used to the geometry first since it will be a more aggressive position compared to a trail bike or beginner mountain bike, but yes, you can use it on the trails.
Hello and thanks for the video! Question, I ve got myself an Author 29er Rival 2018 model (what type of bike you call it? Entry level?) and I'm riding bike since kid but never for long periods of time but, I ve got the bike for 3 months now and although my butt hurt like he'll in the beginning, I now ride 30-45 km per 2 days and I feel good! So I start to love this bike and that type of driving(aggressive, been able to jump curves, been able to ride down steps.) What type of bike would you recommend me? Also I m a big dude 1.93 m.
Danny, I purchased the f-si carbon 5. You did influence the purchase a little and I really like the bike. Question, my old dropper post does not fit so I need a new post. I was thinking of forgoing the dropper and going with the carbon Cannondale "save" seat post as you have on your f-si. I know differences, how to you like the "compliance" flex of the seat post? Is it to bouncy?
Thanks
Hi Marc, the seat post is very compliant and doesn't feel too flexy at all.
I just searched through the past year worth of your videos looking for the followup to this one, about trail bikes. looks like you never made it?
I am 178 cm high ride both 650b and 29er in medium size
How do you keep them so clean and scratch free?!
Cristi L clean and maintain after every ride and race. Clean bike is a happy bike.
Unfortunately watch your video very late, already order a giant xtc slr1 , small in size , my height is 5.6ft age 41yr, will ride it mainly on road and during weekends...if you have some free time for me, let me know what modification I can do in that which will help me to ride that bike little comfortably and for a longer duration... thank you.
Just ride it bro
Sounds like you should have bought a road bike
I've got a 2015 specialized Crave Pro I picked up for $500 a million times better than the Raleigh Tokul 1 I started on much more comfortable for long rides 10lb lighter, air fork.
Would you reccomend the trek roscoe 7 for XC and light mountain biking
Justin Daigle xcalibers are xc bikes
The Roscoe is more of a trail bike that can handle bigger drops and jumps than the X caliber.
I use a 26 wheelsize and frame is it ok to be an xc bike?
yeah
@@thomaswong4047 your name 😂😂😂
No not efficient.
XC is better for beginner than a DH or trail bike and cheaper.
If u want a full sus XC bike it isn’t cheaper tho
What models of trail bike do you recommend me for confort to use the bike use all arounder and jumps road trails dowhill literally almost anything.
that is XC right there.
Hi,
I am about to buy a Cannondale scalpel with Lefty 2.0 for amateur XC races. I heard horrible stories about the reliability and service maintenance. Can you share some of your experience on Lefty service demand comparing to traditional forks? I would appreciate your comments. Thank you. Mike
Mihály Bodócs I have a lefty and have been using is for several months now with no issues. I also work at a cannondale dealer and we work on lefty’s all the time. While lefty’s do encounter more or different problems than a normal fork, everything on a lefty is fixable or serviceable pretty easily by a cannondale dealer. Best feeling fork I’ve ever ridden
great video. Now I know why my bike is uncomfortable lol. I bought used one Specialized Stumpjumper fsr xc. Guys don't judge me, I got it for very cheap! Can I convert it to more comfortable? :D Maybe shorter stem? I already changed saddle. Any tips? :)
MrSnoopydupy change to fork to something with more travel
Haha, Yeah, I have a specialized Stumpjumper FSR XC I got it (silver base model) in 1999(?) It's all original and has always been kept in my bedroom. It's almost spotless though 21 years old! I entered it in a Duathlon 3 years ago, people looking at it asked if it was new(!) It's really aggressive and yeah super uncomfortable for long 6-8 hour rides, kills my ass. But it's the best design I've ever seen even amoung modern bikes. Happy riding!
Any suggestions for a starter bike for someone that would like to possibly compete in XC? I'd like to go for a full on XC bike, but it doesn't seem there are any meant so much for someone training or intermediate level, so I wouldn't have to make such a huge investment in the beginning, in case I cannot eventually compete? Maybe there is but I don't have so much time to research! If there is anyone with any suggestions, I would love to hear them :)
Scalpel aluminium model
fabi I appreciate your help but you gotta help me understand what "slam the cockpit" means :p
Jacob Gonzalez I've heard of the scalpel. Could you remind me what brand makes it?
Brandon Cannondale makes it
Nice bike! I'm beginning to realize I will have to save a bit longer than I'd hoped for a solid bike. Will get there though! Appreciate the suggestion, man!